IATSE, Local 659Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJun 30, 1972197 N.L.R.B. 1187 (N.L.R.B. 1972) Copy Citation IATSE, LOCAL 659 1187 International Photographers of the Motion Picture Industries, Local 659 of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Pic- ture Machine Operators of the United States and Canada (MPO-TV of California Inc., Y-A Pro- ductions, Inc.) andJames N . Adler on behalf of Joel Colman and Vilis M. Lapenieks and Association of Motion Picture Producers , Inc., Party to the Contract. Cases 31-CB-189 and 31-CB-198 June 30, 1972 DECISION AND ORDER BY CHAIRMAN MILLER AND MEMBERS FANNING AND KENNEDY On June 18, 1971, Trial Examiner Allen Sinsheim- er, Jr., issued the attached Decision in this proceed- ing. Thereafter, the General Counsel filed exceptions and a supporting brief, and Respondent filed a reply brief, cross-exceptions, and a supporting brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel. The Board has considered the record and the Trial Examiner's Decision in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to affirm only such of the Trial Examiner's rulings, findings,' and conclusions as are consistent herewith. Respondent excepts to the Trial Examiner's finding that the Regional Director did not exceed his authority in setting aside certain settlement agree- ments and issuing the consolidated complaint. Respondent contends that the Regional Director may not set aside the settlement agreements since there has been no breach of the agreements or a subsequent unfair labor practice. It has long been the practice in the Board's Regional Offices that before any complaint is issued or other formal action taken the Regional Director affords an opportunity to all parties for the submis- sion and consideration of facts, arguments, offers of settlement, or proposals of adjustment, except where time, the nature of the proceeding, and the public interest do not permit. Normally prehearing confer- ences are held, the principal purpose of which is to discuss and explore such submissions and proposals of adjustment. The Regional Office provides Board- prepared forms for such settlement agreements, as well as printed notices for posting by the respondent. These agreements, which are subject to the approval of the Regional Director, provide for an appeal to the General Counsel by a complainant who will not join in a settlement or adjustment deemed adequate by the Regional Director. Proof of compliance is obtained by the Regional Director before the case is closed. If the respondent fails to perform his obligations under the informal agreement, the Regional Director may determine to institute formal proceedings.2 Pursuant to the above practice, settlement discus- sions were held in the Regional Office in the instant case, resulting in the execution by the parties, and approval by the Regional Director, of two separate but identical settlement agreements, both of which provided that "the Union will make whole Joel Colman and Vilis Lapenieks by payment to each of them of backpay plus interest, such amounts to be determined by the Regional Director in accordance with existing Board formula." The Regional Director determined that Colman was entitled to backpay amounting to approximately $400. Colman contend- ed that his backpay should be approximately $40,000, and that the Regional Director's determina- tion of the amount of the backpay would not adequately remedy the alleged vioiation of the Act. Colman's position was ultimately partially sustained, and his backpay recomputed by the Regional Director to the sum of $16,539.63. When Respondent refused to pay such an amount, approval of both of the settlement agreements was withdrawn. It appears obvious from the foregoing that there was no meeting of the minds when the settlement agreements were executed. Colman expected to receive a sum far in excess of $400. Respondent expected a liability substantially less than $16,539.63, the amount ultimately computed by the Regional Director. And the Regional Director was apparently faced with uncertainty as to the choice of a formula for making his determination. In such circumstances, we believe that it would be inequitable to hold the parties to the commitments contained in the settle- ment agreements, and we find that the Regional Director did not commit reversible error in with- drawing approval of the settlement agreements and reopening the case for further proceedings. While settlement agreements are entitled to be treated with sanctity and should not be lightly set aside, we recognize that circumstances can exist which warrant permitting withdrawal from a settlement agreement. Such is the case here. ' The General Counsel has excepted to certain credibility findings made enfd. 188 F.2d 362 (C.A. 3). We have carefully examined the record and by the Trial Examiner. It is the Board's established policy not to overrule a find no basis for reversing his findings. Trial Examiner's resolutions with respect to credibility unless the clear ' National Labor Relations Board Rules and Regulations and State- preponderance of all of the relevant evidence convinces us that the ments of Procedure. Series 8, as amended. Sec. 101.7. resolutions were incorrect. Standard Dry Wall Products, Inc., 91 NLRB 544. 197 NLRB No. 134 1188 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD We do not view the factual situation here as falling within the Board's principle that a Regional Director may not set aside a settlement agreement and issue a formal complaint unless the charged party has failed to comply with its terms or committed further unfair labor practices. As stated above, this is a case where no agreement was reached rather than a case where one was reached and further unfair labor practices committed. And having concluded to proceed to a complaint on the Colman charge, the Regional Director did not abuse his discretion in likewise litigating the issues raised in the Lapenieks charge. The General Counsel excepts to the finding of the Trial Examiner that the roster system, as interpreted and applied by Respondent, does not violate the Act. A review of the facts convinces us that there is merit to this exception. International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employ- ees and Moving Picture Machine Operators of the United States and Canada (IATSE) has 22 branches or local unions in Los Angeles County, representing from 16,000 to 20,000 employees engaged in working in the motion picture industry in the Hollywood, California, area. Respondent is one such local union and represents motion picture cameramen. The chief party with whom IATSE bargains is the Association of Motion Picture Producers, Inc. (the Association), which currently represents approxi- mately 70 employer-members. In addition to the members of the Association, there are numerous additional employers with whom IATSE bargains. Prior to negotiations between IATSE and the Association for a new agreement, IATSE notifies all other employers with whom it has expiring collective- bargaining agreements of the commencement of negotiations. These employers are advised of their option either to negotiate separately if they so notify IATSE in writing by a certain date or to be bound by the final understanding reached between IATSE and the Association. As appears below, however, no 3 These differences result from the fact that some companies are "collapsible" in that, when the time comes for an employee to receive holiday or vacation pay, the company may no longer be in business. 4 Although all the aforementioned agreements contain lawful union- security clauses , such clauses are not enforced ; indeed, membership is not available until an employee has been on the Industry Experience Roster for a period of 2 years. 5 The Association and Independent Basic Agreements each contain the following provision: ". . . the Employer shall give preference of employ- ment to persons . . . in the crafts and classifications of work subject to this agreement . The definitive terms of such preference or seniority shall be those contained in the industry experience seniority roster systems as, by agreements, have been set up and maintained industry-wide between Employers on the one hand and the International Alliance and/or the respective West Coast Studio Locals on the other hand." 6 At times there have been many individuals who had met the work requirements to be placed on the roster but whose names did not physically appear on the Association's master copy. If an employee had the required experience , Respondent would treat him as being on the roster . When an employer failing to notify IATSE is treated as bound if he chooses not to sign the new agreement. At the conclusion of the negotiations, each member of the Association signs a single agreement with IATSE called the "Association Basic Agreement." A second agreement , the "Independent Basic Agree- ment," is then prepared and is identical to the Association Basic in all essential respects, except for a different method of computing vacation and holiday pay.3 This agreement is printed and mailed to all prior signatories who are nonmembers of the Association. These employers, after receiving their copy of the Independent Basic Agreement, individu- ally decide whether or not to sign and be bound by the agreement. Those employers who sign this agreement are hereinafter referred to as "Independ- ents." Negotiations then continue between IATSE, Re- spondent, and the Association and result in a third agreement, hereinafter referred to as the "Local 659 Agreement." It is this agreement which provides for the industry Experience Roster, discussed infra, which gives rise to the basic issue in this case.4 The Local 659 Agreement requires that preference in employment be given to persons whose names appear on this roster. The roster provisions are incorporated by reference in the Association and Independent Basic Agreements. The roster, by agreement, is supposed to be maintained by the Association. However, in practice, employers, when they are in need of cameramen, normally call Respondent, who keeps the roster and list of available employees current.6 In determining whether an employee is eligible to be placed on the roster, his work experience with employers other than those who signed one of the aforementioned agreements is not considered. Thus, qualifying experience is generally limited to experi- ence with employers having a collective-bargaining agreement with Respondent and/or IATSE.7 There can be no doubt that the actions of employer called . Respondent would read such an individual 's name along with those names actually appearing on the roster, providing such persons were currently seeking employment. I The roster is divided into groups 1 . 2. and 3 . Initial placement on the roster in group 3 requires that one have worked 30 days for one signatory or a total of 90 days for several signatories. To move from group 3 to group I requires generally that a person work 130 days for signatories . There is no evidence that group 2 has any practical existence. The Trial Examiner found that experience with an employer prior to the employer becoming a signatory is counted for initial placement on the roster in group 3 when that employer signs a contract with Respondent or IATSE. The General Counsel excepts to this finding . According to Ben Batchelder, administrative assistant to the executive vice president of the Association. such experience is counted only for the purpose of reclassification of an employee on the roster from group 3 to group I . In view of the fact that Batchelder maintained the roster from its inception in 1949 until he retired January I , 1971. we agree with the General Counsel that such experience is counted only for the purpose of reclassification on the roster. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1189 Respondent in applying the roster restrained and coerced employees in the exercise of rights guaran- teed in Section 7 of the Act. In part, Section 7 gives employees the right to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, or to refrain therefrom, subject of course to majority rule. Respondent's actions penalize employees for having exercised their statutory right to refrain from bargaining collectively through Respondent in the past, while rewarding those employees who have chosen to work in units represented by Respondent.8 Respondent contends that the roster provisions, as interpreted and applied, are lawful because the employers, both the Independents and members of the Association, in effect, formed a multiemployer bargaining unit for seniority purposes. The Trial Examiner considered it unnecessary to determine whether the employers involved constitute a multiemployer unit. We find that they do not, for the evidence shows that the Independent employers did not in fact comprise a part of a single unit for bargaining. Indeed, Respondent admits that the Independents were always given the option to negotiate separately if they desired. Furthermore, the Independents can refuse to be bound by any agreement negotiated by any multiemployer group, simply by not signing the resulting contract. It is not until the Independents have received the proposed agreement and discussed it that each Independent individually decides whether or not to become a party to the agreement. In addition, the Association has not been authorized to negotiate on behalf of any Independent employer. Accordingly, we find that the Independents are not part of a multiemployer unit.9 Respondent further contends, however, that even if a multiemployer bargaining unit does not exist, there is still no violation of the Act since the seniority provisions are unrelated to union considerations and merely protect the so-called "integrity of the bargain- ing unit." We find this contention to be without merit. It is well settled that a bargaining representative for the employees of a particular unit has the right to make seniority depend on the date of hire in the unit and thus to give an inferior seniority ranking to employees transferred from another unit. General Drivers and Helpers Local Union 229, Teamsters (Associated, Transport, Inc.), 185 NLRB No. 84.10 We have heretofore concluded that each Independent employer comprised a separate bargaining unit. We are not faced here with a situation where new employees are being placed at the bottom of a unit seniority list. On the contrary, this case presents a situation wherein Respondent prevents an applicant from obtaining initial employment unless he has had prior employment at which he was represented by the Union. The question here is not what seniority rights an employee acquires after working in a unit represent- ed by Respondent, but what rights the applicant is to start with when he seeks employment with an employer who is party to a collective-bargaining agreement with Respondent and/or IATSE. Respon- dent admits that if an employee had acquired seniority rights under a collective-bargaining con- tract to which Respondent and/or IATSE is a party, those rights will be honored where the employee seeks employment in an entirely separate unit which is also represented by Respondent. On the other hand, an employee cannot commence work in a unit represented by Respondent unless he has previously worked in a unit covered by a collective-bargaining contract to which Respondent and/or IATSE is a party. Since the existence of a collective-bargaining contract connotes representation by a labor organi- zation , the deprivation of employment with employ- ers who are parties to collective-bargaining contracts with Respondent and/or IATSE flows from the failure of an employee to have been previously represented by Respondent. The facts relating to the Charging Parties clearly reveal how Respondent's application of the roster violates the Act." Both Colman and Lapenieks hold the classification of director of photography. When employers MPO- TV and Y-A, who were not members of the Association, sought permission from Respondent to employ these individuals, such permission was refused by Herbert Aller, Respondent's business representative, on the ground that neither individual had acquired the necessary experience to be placed on the roster. In fact, both individuals had extensive experience, albeit it was gained while working for employers who did not have contracts with Respon- dent and/or IATSE. With respect to Lapenieks, in July 1966 director e See Teamsters ' Freight Local No. 480 (Hilton D. Wall), 167 NLRB 920, enfd . 409 F.2d 610 (C.A. 6); Whiting Milk Corporation, 145 NLRB 1035, enforcement denied 342 F.2d 8 (C.A. 1). Although enforcement was denied in Whiting, we believe the rationale in Hilton D . Wall to be correct, and we respectfully disagree with the court 's rationale in Whiting. 9 Rock Springs Retail Merchants Association , 188 NLRB No. 41; The Kroger Co., 148 NLRB 569; Van Eerden Company, etc., 154 NLRB 496. See also Moveable Partitions , Inc., 175 NLRB 915, holding that intent to become part of a multiemployer unit cannot be based solely on the adoption by an employer of a contract negotiated by a multiemployer association of which the employer was not a member; there must also be evidence that the employer has authorized the association to negotiate on its behalf. 10 See also Schick v. N.L.R.B., 409 F .2d 395 (C.A. 7); Ford Motor Company v. Huffman, 345 U.S. 330. 11 The employee status of both Colman and Lapenieks is discussed infra. 1190 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Alex Grasshoff told George Flaherty, vice president of IATSE, that Y-A Productions, Inc., was doing a feature documentary, that he desired to sign an IATSE contract, but that he wanted to use Lapenieks as director of photography. Flaherty checked with Alter, who insisted that if Y-A signed a contract, Lapenieks could not be hired since he was not eligible for roster status. On June 8, 1966, Gordon Stulberg of Columbia Studios, the financial backer of Y-A, wrote Alter and explained the nature of the proposed project and Columbia's financial interest and said that Columbia had informed Y-A that, due to Columbia's obliga- tions under the IATSE agreement,12 it would finance Y-A's film only if produced under IATSE condi- tions. Stulberg further explained that Grasshoff considered the teamwork between him and Lapen- ieks to be essential to the success of the film and that one of the prime reasons Columbia was willing to finance the picture was a previous documentary done by Grasshoff with Lapenieks. In an exchange of letters, Alter remained adamant in his position that Respondent would not agree to Lapenieks' employ- ment. Grasshoff finally agreed that Y-A would sign an IATSE basic agreement and also agreed to use a director of photography other than Lapenieks. Alter gave Grasshoff a list of directors of photography, from which Grasshoff could choose whomever he desired. Grasshoff decided to use Richard Moore.13 Moore later informed Grasshoff that he would not be available until August 18, 1966. Feeling that the production should start as scheduled on August 8, Grasshoff tried unsuccessfully to find another director of photography. He then requested that Alter permit Lapenieks to work until Moore was available. Alter agreed but insisted that Moore must replace Lapenieks immediately upon becoming available14 and that Lapenieks not be given any photographic screen credit.15 On August 22, the first day he was available for employment, Moore replaced Lapenieks as director of photography. Melvin Dellar of MPO-TV of California, an Independent, in August 1966 sought permission from Respondent to hire Colman as a director of photog- raphy for a 2-day assignment on August 4 and 5. Alter refused, since Colman was not on the roster, and said further that if MPO used Colman all IATSE people would be pulled off the stage. Colman was not hired for this assignment. Dellar had been authorized by Arnold Kaiser, president of MPO, to negotiate a contract with Colman for his services as director of photography for MPO. Dellar and Colman reached agreement on a 3-year contract which included a salary of $750 per week, subject to approval by Respondent. On August 11, 1966, Dellar notified Respondent by letter that he desired to sign the aforementioned contract with Colman and requested that Colman be allowed to become a member of Respondent for this purpose. After receiving no response, Dellar again wrote Respondent concerning this matter. On Sep- tember 15, Respondent replied that, since Colman's name did not appear on the roster, he could not be hired by MPO. The above illustrates that initial employment in a unit represented by Respondent is based strictly on union considerations. No matter what qualifications an employee brings with him, if he has not in the past been represented by Respondent, he cannot gain employment with any employer who is party to a collective-bargaining agreement with Respondent and/or IATSE. Accordingly, we conclude that Respondent, by applying the seniority provisions against any Association or Independent employer as if all such employers comprise a single bargaining unit, and in particular by the manner in which Respondent has applied the roster provisions with respect to Colman and Lapenieks, has unlawfully restrained and coerced employees in the exercise of their statutory rights and thereby violated Section 8(b)(1)(A) of the Act.16 The Trial Examiner found Colman and Lapenieks to be supervisors. We disagree. The record reveals no evidence that Lapenieks ever recommended the employment or discharge of any employee or possessed any other substantive indicia of supervisory status. As for Colman, the record shows that on one occasion he recommended that the production manager discharge an employee. But this recommendation was not adopted. Six months later, Colman again requested that this same employee be discharged. This employee was eventually dis- charged, but the record indicates the discharge was based on an independtrnt investigation by the production manager. The record also shows that Colman, with respect to one employer, was able to IZ Columbia Studios is an employer-member of the Association. 13 It is worth noting that Moore, although a member of the Union. did not physically appear on the roster. However, Respondent had determined that Moore was eligible to be placed on the roster and treated him accordingly. See In . 6, supra. 14 It is interesting to note that Paragraph 68 (b) of the "Local 659 Agreement" provides, in part, "In the event that there are insufficient available qualified persons . . . who are in Industry Groups 1, 2 or 3 to meet the employment requirements of the Producer . . . then Producer may secure employees from any source." 15 One's reputation in the industry goes up or down according to one's credits on the screen. 16 In view of our finding , we deem it unnecessary to consider the effects of the "Tri-Local Agreement" or the "Permit System" discussed by the Trial Examiner. IATSE, LOCAL 659 recommend employment when a vacancy occurred on his particular crew. But his recommendations were not automatically followed. When they were followed, the final decision was based on the independent judgment of someone above Colman, usually the principal director or the production manager. We cannot infer from the above that Colman and Lapenieks, as directors of photography, could effec- tively recommend employment and discharge. It appears that the actual authority was lodged in, and the decisions were effectuated by, others. Recom- mendations by the director of photography are subject to independent investigations and decision by others. The Trial Examiner also found that directors of photography responsibly direct the camera and electrical crews. We believe that such direction is only routine since the evidence indicates that the principal director, from whom the director of photography receives all his instructions, is always present to supervise the crews. Under these circum- stances, and in the absence of evidence of any real supervisory authority, we conclude that Colman and Lapenieks are employees under the Act.17 Moreover, even if Colman and Lapenieks were supervisors, we would still find the action directed against them by Respondent to be unlawful because of its impact on employees. The record shows that "Daily Variety," a publication distributed principally to employees in the motion picture industry in Los Angeles County, contained articles relating to Res- pondent's refusal to permit the hiring of Colman and Lapenieks. Furthermore, the action taken against Colman and Lapenieks was brought to the attention of union members who were admittedly employees and who were on the Union's executive board when the action was discussed. In addition, the charges in this case were read to members at regular meetings. It can reasonably be concluded that the discrimina- tion thus directed by Respondent Union created an impact on other employees, the natural consequence of which was to restrain and coerce them with respect to their Section 7 rights, in violation of Section 8(b)(1)(A) of the Act. THE REMEDY In order to effectuate the policies of the Act, it is found necessary that Respondent cease and desist from the unfair labor practices found and from any other invasions of the employees' Section 7 rights; 11 In view of our finding , we agree with the Trial Examiner that there is no merit in Respondent 's contention that Colman is an independent contractor. 's In the event that this Order is enforced by a Judgment of a United 1191 ' take certain affirmative action, including making whole Joel Colman, and Vilis Lapenieks with back- pay computed on a quarterly basis, plus interest at 6 percent per annum, as prescribed in F. W. Woolworth Company, 90 NLRB 289, and Isis Plumbing & Heating Co., 138 NLRB 716; and post appropriate notices. ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that Respondent, International Photographers of the Motion Picture Industries, Local 659 of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Picture Machine Operators of the United States and Canada, its officers, agents, and representatives, shall: 1. Cease and desist from: (a) Applying its collective-bargaining contracts with the Association of Motion Picture Producers, Inc., its member-employers, or nonmember-employ- ers outside the Association in any manner which discriminates against any employee with respect to his initial employment and/or placement on the Industry Experience Roster on the basis of union representation. (b) In any like or related manner , discriminating against employees because of experience gained in the industry while not represented by Respondent. 2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to effectuate the policies of the Act: (a) Notify all employers, against whom it applies the Industry Experience Roster seniority provisions, that it will cease applying such provisions in a manner that discriminates against any employee with respect to his initial employment and/or placement on the Industry Experience Roster on the basis of union representation. (b) Make whole Joel Colman and Vilis Lapenieks for any loss of pay they may have suffered by reason of Respondent's interpretation and application of the seniority provisions of the Industry Experience Roster, such loss of earnings to be computed in the manner set forth in the section entitled "The Remedy." (c) Post at Respondent's business offices and meeting places copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix." 1R Copies of said notice, on forms States Court of Appeals, the words in the notice reading "Posted by Order of the National Labor Relations Board" shall read "Posted pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals enforcing an Order of the National Labor Relations Board." 1192 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD provided by the Regional Director for Region 31, after being duly signed by Respondent's representa- tive, shall be posted by Respondent immediately upon receipt thereof, and be maintained by it for 60 consecutive days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to members are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (d) Promptly after receipt of copies of the said notice from the Regional Director, return to him signed copies for posting by MPO-TV of California, Inc., Y-A Productions, Inc., all employer-members of the Association of Motion Picture Producers. Inc., and all other employers against whom Respondent has applied the seniority provisions of the Industry Experience Roster, if they be willing, at their places of business, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. (e) Notify the Regional Director for Region 31, in writing, within 20 days from the date of this Order, what steps Respondent has taken to comply here- with. CHAIRMAN MILLER, dissenting: About 4 years ago this case was settled. The settlement agreements were signed by Respondent and Charging Parties and were approved by the Regional Director. The agreements provided for backpay, with the amount to be determined by the Regional Director. He determined the amount to be $400, as to Charging Party Colman. A few days thereafter, Colman asked permission to withdraw from the agreement. For what reason we do not know, the Regional Director permitted him to do so, although Respondent asserts, without contradiction, that it was willing at all times to comply with the agreement.19 In my view the agreement should have been honored and, that being true, the complaint should be dismissed and the settlement agreement reinstat- ed. We have held in a line of cases going back over the decades and continuing through the years that a Regional Director may not set aside a settlement agreement and issue a formal complaint unless the charged party has failed to comply with its terms or committed further unfair labor practices. See, for example, Corn Products Mfg. Co., 49 NLRB 1377 (1943); Teamsters General Local No. 200.,172NLRB, 19 A majority of my colleagues find that there was "no meeting of the minds when the settlement agreements were executed." I cannot agree. All parties agreed in writing that the amount of backpay was "to be determined by the Regional Director in accordance with existing Board formula." That, No. 1190%8); Mohasco Industries, Inc., 172 NLRB No. 237 (1968); Arrow Specialities, Inc., 177 NLRB 306, 308 (1969). If a Regional Director may not set aside such an agreement in the absence of lack of compliance or the commission of further unfair labor practices, I see no reason why he may achieve the same result by permitting a charging party to withdraw from the agreement under like circumstances. We have a very real interest in settling charges, since if it were not for the fact that over 90 percent of such charges are disposed of by settlement and other early methods of disposition at the regional level, this Board would be inundated by such a caseload that we would be totally paralyzed. Considerations of equity also require that a respondent which has in good faith bound itself to a course of complying with such an agreement should be entitled to rely on compliance therewith by the other party or parties, and not be subject to their whim or caprice in deciding to withdraw after a definitive agreement has once been executed. Indeed, if it becomes known that a party cannot rely on such agreements and if instead they are mere will o' the wisps doomed to disappear at the whim of the other contracting party, how can we expect respondents seriously to consider entering upon settlement discussions? For these reasons , I would dismiss the complaint and reinstate the settlement agreement. APPENDIX NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES AND MEMBERS POSTED BY ORDER OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD An Agency of the United States Government After a trial in which both sides had the opportunity to present their evidence, the National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated the law and has ordered us to post this notice and we intend to carry out the order of the Board and abide by the following: WE WILL NOT apply our collective-bargaining agreements with the Association of Motion Picture Producers, Inc., its employer-members, or nonmember-employers outside the Association in in my view, was a binding agreement , and cannot be vitiated merely because one party subjectively "expected more" than an amount deter- mined by the method to which he had agreed. IATSE, LOCAL 659 any manner which discriminates against any employee with respect to his initial employment and/or placement on the Industry Experience Roster on the basis of union representation. WE WILL NOT in any other manner restrain or coerce you in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in the National Labor Relations Act, which are as follows: To engage in self-organization To form, join, or help unions To bargain collectively through a repre- sentative of your own choosing To act together for collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection and To refrain from any and all of these things. WE WILL make whole Joel Colman and Vilis Lapenieks, with interest, for any loss of pay they may have suffered. INTERNATIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS OF THE MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRIES, LOCAL 659 OF THE INTERNATIONAL ALLIANCE OF THEATRICAL STAGE EMPLOYEES AND MOVING PICTURE MACHINE OPERATORS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA (Labor Organization) Dated By (Representative) (Title) This is an official notice and must not be defaced by anyone. This notice must remain posted for 60 consecutive days from the date of posting and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. Any questions concerning this notice or compli- ance with its provisions may be directed to the The order consolidating cases, the consolidated complaint, and notice of hearing issued on September 8, 1970. The original charge in Case 31-CB-198 involving Vilis M. Lapenieks was filed January 30, 1967, and the charge in Case 3I-CB-189 involving Joel Colman was filed December 20, 1966. Par. 12 of the complaint was amended at the hearing to add certain specified additional dates therein. Y Respondent's motion to dismiss the entire case was predicated on the fact that a settlement agreement had been entered into involving Colman and that Respondent had at all times been willing to comply therewith. Briefly, the issue raised results from the execution on June 10, 1968, of separate but identical informal settlement agreements in the Colman and Lapenieks cases . On July 11, 1968, Attorney Adler, on behalf of Colman, signed the agreement in Case 31-CB-189 and on October 4, 1968, Lapenieks signed the agreement in Case 31-CB-198. On November 22, 1193 Board's Office, Federal Building, Room 12100, 11000 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, California 90024, Telephone 213-824-7352. TRIAL EXAMINER'S DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE ALLEN SINSHEIMER, JR., Trial Examiner: This proceeding was heard before me in Los Angeles, California, on January 27 to 29 and February 1 to 5, 1971, upon a consolidated complaint of the General Counsel and answer of International Photographers of the Motion Picture Industries, Local 659 of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Picture Machine Operators of the United States and Canada, herein called Respondent.' The consolidated complaint alleges a viola- tion of Section 8(b)(I)(A) of the, Act by virtue of the interpretation and application of certain "roster provi- sions" set forth therein and a "tri-local agreement" described therein, which allegedly "have established and given effect to an arrangement, understanding or practice which gives employment preference to individuals based on their having worked for employers signatory to contracts with Respondent and/or IATSE and on their being members of Respondent and/or IATSE." It further alleges specific violations of Section 8(b)(1)(A) by Respon- dent causing an employer, MPO-TV of California, Inc., to refuse to hire Colman on or about August 6, 1966, and by Respondent causing an employer to refuse to hire Lapenieks. Respondent filed both a motion to dismiss predicated on a certain settlement agreement or agreements and an answer. Attorney Gross on behalf of the Charging Party Lapenieks filed a motion to dismiss as to Lapenieks at the hearing, also predicated on a certain settlement agreement or agreements, which motion was denied. These will be considered hereafter together with the issues raised by the pleadings and during the course of the hearing, which will be specified under the heading " Issues." Respondent's motion to dismiss made at the hearing with respect to the settlement agreements was denied at the hearing. It was renewed near the close of the hearing. Ruling thereon was reserved and is disposed of below.2 Motions were also made with respect to the application of Section 10(b) of the Act and to strike certain testimony. Ruling was reserved thereon. All motions to strike 1968, the Lapenieks and Colman agreements were approved by the Regional Director. Both agreements provide, among other things. that "the Union will make whole Joel Colman and Vilis Lapenieks by payment to each of them of backpay plus interest, such amounts to be determined by the Regional Director in accordance with existing Board formula." By letter dated July 14, 1969, the Regional Director notified Adler that he had determined that Colman was entitled to backpay for only 2 days in the amount of $400 and that this had been made after thorough investigation of Adler's contention that the amount of backpay should be approximately $40,000. On July 18, 1969, in view of the great discrepancy between Colman's backpay claim and the Regional Director's determination, the Charging Party's request (of July 15) for permission to withdraw from the settlement agreement in the Colman case was granted. On August 20, 1969. the Charging Party appealed from the refusal to issue complaint in the 1194 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD testimony on which ruling was reserved are hereby denied. With respect to the application of Section 10(b) of the Act, evidence antedating 6 months of the filing of charges herein will be considered in accordance with the principles enunciated by the Supreme Court in Bryan Mfg. Co., 362 U.S. 411, as subsequently interpreted by the Board.3 Upon the entire record , including consideration of the briefs filed by the General Counsel on behalf of the Charging Party Colman and the Respondent , and upon my observation of the witnesses , I hereby make the following: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. BUSINESS OF AFFECTED EMPLOYERS MPO-TV of California, Inc., herein called MPO, is a Colman case claiming that the determination of the backpay due Colman did not remedy the alleged violation. On December 2, 1969, the appeal was denied by the General Counsel's office. On May 28, 1970, upon the Charging Party's motion for reconsideration, a determination was made that the settlement agreement did not adequately remedy the alleged violations of the Act and the appeal was sustained as to the 8(b)(1)(A) allegation. On June 22, 1970, the Regional Director informed Respondent that the amount of backpay due Colman was $16.539.63. Respondent refused to pay the backpay in said amount. Following this refusal, on September 4, 1970. approval of both of the Colman and Lapenieks agreements was withdrawn by the Acting Regional Director and tie case was reopened for further proceedings. Respondent contends that it had posted the notices required, was prepared to comply with the settlement, and offered to pay the sum of $400 originally found due by the Regional Director. Respondent states that under established law that the only basis for going behind the settlement agreement would be either that it had not been complied with or that there was a subsequent violation thereof, Respondent's contention herein is that it was in compliance with the-settlement agreement it entered into. However, the issue posed here differs from the cases cited in that the Respondent did not pay the amount finally set forth by the Regional Director after he allowed the Charging Party to withdraw from the settlement agreement. Respondent raises two principal contentions: First, that the Regional Director exceeded his authority in permitting the Charging Party to withdraw from the Colman agreement: and, second, that the parties agreed that the Regional Director should determine the amount of backpay, that he had determined the backpay was $400, and that Respondent was willing to make Colman whole in the amount of $400. As the General Counsel points out, there is nothing in the Board's Rules and Regulations which prohibits the Regional Director from permitting the Charging Party to withdraw from the Colman settlement. The last part of Sec. 101.7 of the Board's Rules relating to settlement provides: The Regional Office provides Board prepared forms for such settlement agreements as well as printed notices for posting by the Respondent. These agreements which are subject to approval of the Regional Director provide for an appeal to the General Counsel, as described in Section 101.6 by a compainant who will not join in a settlement or adjustment deemed adequate by the Regional Director. Proof of compliance is obtained by the Regional Director before the case is closed. If the Respondent fails to perform his obligations under the informal agreement, the Regional Director may determine to institute formal proceedings. [Emphasis supplied.] From the foregoing, it is evident that one requisite is the approval by the Regional Director of the settlement agreement. It is also evident that he is acting as a representative of the General Counsel in so doing. The settlement agreement itself provides that he is to determine the amount of backpay in accordance with Board formula which presumably refers to F. W. Woolworth Company, 90 NLRB 289 and Isis Plumbing & Heating Co.. 138 NLRB 716. Respondent's contention, in essence, is if all parties have signed the agreement and the Regional Director is designated to make the backpay determination. and if he makes a determination, that disposes of the matter. In the instant case. the Regional Director made the determina- tion, the Charging Party informed him that it did not agree with the determination, and he then allowed the Charging Party to withdraw from the settlement agreement. Had the Charging Party not signed the settlement wholy owned subsidiary of MPO Videotronics, with its principal place of business in Los Angeles, where it is engaged in filming television commercials. MPO annually receives revenue in excess of $50,000 from firms located outside California for filming television commercials for transmission outside California. Wilding, Inc., herein called Wilding, is a movie produc- ing company with offices and studios in Los Angeles, California, Chicago, Illinois, and other cities. During the preceding year in the course and conduct of its business in California, Wilding sold and shipped goods in excess of $50,000 to customers outside California. Y-A Productions, Inc., herein called Y-A, is a corpora- tion formed solely for producing a motion picture called "Young Americans" under a contract with Columbia Pictures Corporation, herein called Columbia, whereby agreement and contended that the amount was in error, there is no question that it would have had a right of appeal to the Board . Similarly, had the Charging Party not signed the settlement agreement and had the Regional Director, after investigating the backpay issue , determined there was a question of fact and that he could not determine the backpay amount, the Regional Director could have set aside the settlement agreement and issued a complaint. Assuming all parties signed a settlement agreement and no one raised any question, but the Regional Director determined that the amount of backpay could not be resolved by him on the facts presented, what would his position then be? Presumably he could set aside the settlement agreement and proceed to issue a complaint or seek further settlement effort or, with the accord of the parties, hold a backpay hearing, but in any case, he would be exercising his judgment as a representative of the General Counsel. If the Regional Director were to find the amount of backpay to be a very large amount and a Respondent refused to pay, what action could a Regional Director take? Under the rules set forth above, one action that could be taken would be to issue a complaint against a Respondent. In fact, if a Respondent doesn't pay under the Board procedures where there is at; informal settlement , this is the action that ordinarily would he taken. Were the settlement to provide for a Board Order or a court decree, of course, a different procedure might be followed. What the foregoing illustrates in my judgment is that, when an informal settlement is involved, the matter remains under the aegis of the General Counsel and his representative, the Regional Director. The informal settlement is a procedural document used by the Board. It is not a contract as such, not does the Regional Director function as an arbitrator. The Board's consent election proceedings may give the Regional Director a posture more in the nature of an arbiter, but not the informal settlement agreement since the Respondent is not hound by his findings unless the agreement is finally executed and fulfilled. Were the settlement agreement viewed as a contract, since a Respondent is not bound. there would be a lack of mutuality until complete performance by a Respondent. Further, under contract law today, under the Uniform Commercial Code generally, a contract that would be unconscionable would not be enforceable. Whether or not such would be the case here could depend upon what the amount of backpay might ultimately be ascertained to be. I conclude from the foregoing and also as the General Counsel has pointed out that inherent in the Regional Dircetor's authority to approve a settlement is the power io reconsider such. See and compare Swift Service Stores, 169 NLRB 359 at 361. See also Jackson Tile. 282 F.2d 90 at 92 (C. A. 5). With respect to the contention of Lapenieks at the hearing that his case was separate from that of Colman, it may be that, had separate forms been executed, such would have been true. However, the forms that were executed referred to both Colman and Lapenieks and therefore the setting aside of the Colman settlement necessarily involved the setting aside of the Lapenieks settlement. Respondent contends that the General Counsel, in a previous case involving Torbin Johnke, had determined that the roster system was not invalid as applied therein. Even assuming that were the case, such would not preclude the General Counsel from acting herein . Further. the General Counsel's complaint does not attack the roster system per se but as it has been interpreted and applied. I therefore reaffirm my rulings denying Respondent 's aforesaid motion to dismiss the complaint and also Lapenieks' aforesaid motion. 3 See for example Houston Maritime Assn., Inc, 168 NLRB 616. IATSE, LOCAL 659 Columbia agreed to distribute the film nationally and finance the $450,000 cost of production. Columbia, a corporation with studios located in Los Angeles, California, is engaged primarily in the production and distribution of motion pictures. Columbia annually sells and ships from its California studios motion picture film and other products valued in excess of $50,000 directly to the points outside of California. The parties stipulated that, for the purposes of the commerce allegations only, the foregoing facts were true. I accordingly find that MPO, Wilding, Y-A, and Columbia are now, and at all times material have been, employers engaged in commerce and in business affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED It is admitted that International Photographers of the Motion Picture Industries, Local 659 of the International Alliance of the Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Picture Machine Operators of the United States and Canada, herein called Respondent, is a labor organization within the meaning of the Act. III. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. The Complaint The complaint, as previously set forth, alleges violations of Section 8(b)(1)(A) by the Respondent. The following paragraphs of the complaint are set forth in haec verba: 6. At all times material herein, Respondent and/or its parent body, International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Picture Operators of the United States and Canada, herein called IATSE, and employer-members of the Association of Motion Picture Producers, Inc., herein called AMPP, and various independent motion picture industry employers in Los Angeles County, California, including MPO, Wilding, Y-A, and Gerald Schnitzer Productions, herein called Schnitzer, have been parties to separate, but identical, collective-bargaining agreements. cover- ing single employer units 4 7. At all times material herein, the collective-bargain- ing agreements described in paragraph 6 above have contained or incorporated by reference inter alia, the following provisions, herein called the roster provi- sions: 68. Seniority a) Maintenance of Industry Experience Roster Producer has established and will maintain an industry Experience Roster of those persons covered by this agreement who in the period between January 1, 1947, and January 31, 1965, both inclusive, have actually worked thirty (30) 1195 days or more in one or more of the job classifications covered by this agreement in the production of motion pictures in the Motion Picture Industry in Los Angeles County, or who have been hired in said County and have performed such services outside said County. Additional persons may hereafter be added to such roster in accordance with the procedure set forth under Industry Group 3 below. n Industry Group 3 of said Industry Experience Roster shall be composed of all persons on such Roster on January 31, 1965 in Industry Group 3. Commencing on and after February 1, 1965, persons not on said Roster who after January 31, 1965 perform all such services in the job classifi- cations covered by this agreement for a total thereafter of at least ninety (90) actual workdays collectively, with more than one Producer en- gaged in the production of motion pictures in the Motion Picture Industry in Los Angeles County (under a collective-bargaining agreement contain- ing the same seniority provisions as those con- tained herein) or thirty (30) or more actual workdays with Producer, shall have his work record reviewed by the Producer's "Industry Camer- amen Qualifications Committee, " appointed by the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc. Upon such a review, if such Committee finds that any such person possesses sufficient skill and ability to meet the employment requirement of the Industry, the name of such person may be placed by Producer in Group 3 of said Industry Experience Roster. If such person does not in the opinion of said Committee have the required skill and ability, he shall not be added to the same Roster and such reviewed employment shall not be recognized as experience in the Motion Picture Industry for any purpose under the terms of this agreement. [Emphasis supplied]. b) Hiring, Layoff and Rehire The Producer shall give preference of employment within each of the following applicable related job classifications grouping, respectively, as hereafter provided: 1. Director of Photography and/or 1st or 2nd Cameraman. 2. Portrait Photographer and Still Cameraman 3. 1st and 2nd Assistant Camera- man. 4 . Color Technician. 5. Film Loader. Such preference of employment in hiring and rehiring 4 Respondent contends that the unit is a multiemployer unit There is no dispute that there have been bargaining agreements 1196 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD shall be given by Producer within each such respective related job classification grouping to the available qualified persons who are from such related job classifications, in the following order: First, preference of employment shall be given to such available qualified persons who are in Industry Group 1, second, preference of employment shall be given to such available qualified persons who are in Group Industry 2; then, next preference of employ- ment shall be given to such available qualified persons who are in Industry Group 3. In the event that there are insufficient available qualified persons from such respective related job classifi- cations who are in Industry Groups 1, 2 or 3 to meet the employment requirements of the Pro- d ucer in such respective relatedjob classifications, then Producer may secure employees from any source-5 [Emphasis supplied.] 8. At all times material herein, Respondent has maintained an agreement with IATSE Local 644 located in New York, New York and IATSE Local 666 located in Chicago, Illinois, herein called the Tri-Local Agreement, which contains the following provisions: 1. REPORTING OF CREWS: Where a Local desires to have its members work in the territory of a sister Local, notification shall be given in writing by the Union and the members entering the territory of the sister Local shall notify the Local Union upon arriving in the territory. 2. FEATURE PRODUCTION: When two- thirds (2/3) of a production is made in any one of the territories of Local 644, 659 and 666, the crew shall be employed entirely from the Local in whose territory two-thirds (2/3) of the production is to be photographed. (2/3 of a production or less shall be determined by the number of days in the shooting schedule). 3. Where less than 2/3 of a production is made in any one territory of Locals 644, 659 or 666, the Local entering the territory shall be permitted to enter with a First Cameraman,6 Second Camera- man, Assistant Cameraman and a Still Camera- man, and photograph in collaboration with a First Cameraman, Second Cameraman, Assistant Cameraman and Still Cameraman from the Local in whose territory they are working. [Emphasis supplied.] Such colloboration must be confined to the city in which the unit is working. (A collaborating crew shall not be confused with a second unit.) The collaborating crew shall work under the immediate direction of the Director of Photography who has entered the territory of the collaborating crew. Screen credit shall be given to the Director of Photography in charge of the collaborating crew.' 9. At all times material herein, Respondent and the Employers described above in paragraph 6, have interpreted and applied the Roster Provi- sions so as to place on said Roster only those persons who had worked for employers who have collective-bargaining agreements with Respon- dent and/or IATSE and in accordance with this interpretation, the only workdays counted for the purpose of qualifying for placement on the said Roster are those worked for Employers who are party to such collective-bargaining agreements. 10. Respondent, at all times material, with the acquiescence of the Employers described in paragraph 6 above, has interpreted and given effect to the Tri-Local Agreement so as to permit members of IATSE Local Unions 644 and 666 to work in Los Angeles County as cameramen or directors of photography without regard to the Roster Provisions. 11. On or about August 1, 1966, Respondent, through Aller,8 caused MPO to refuse to hire Joel Colman, herein called Colman, for the reason that Colman was not a member of Respondent. 12. On or about August 6, 1966, Respondent through Aller caused or attempted to cause Y-A to refuse to hire Vilis Lapenieks because he was not a member of Respondent. 15. By virtue of their interpretation and applica- tion of the Roster Provisions and the Tri-Local Agreement as described in paragraphs 9 through 14 above, the Respondent and the Employers described in paragraph 6 above, have established and given effect to an arrangement, understand- ing or practice which gives employment prefer- ence to individuals based on their having worked for employers signatory to contracts with Res- pondent and/or IATSE and on their being members of Respondent and/or IATSE. [Empha- sis supplied.] 16. The Respondent because of the arrange- ment , understanding and practice described in paragraph 15 above, through Aller, on or about August 1, 1966, caused MPO to refuse to hire Colman and on or about August 6, 1966, caused Y-A to refuse to hire Lapenieks and by engaging in this conduct did restrain and coerce employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act. 5 These provisions are set forth in Local 659's agreement which was r These provisions are set forth in a copy of the Tn-Local Agreement received in evidence received in evidence 6 "First Cameraman" and "Director of Photography" are synonymous " Respondent's business agent or equivalent terms IATSE, LOCAL 659 1197 * * * * * 4. The General Counsel further contends that in 28. By the acts and conduct in paragraphs 9 through 12, 15 and 16 above and by each of said acts Respondent did restrain and coerce and is restraining and coercing, employees in the exer- cise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act and thereby did engage in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8(b)(1)(A) of the Act. In addition to the foregoing, paragraph IX of the "Standard Basic Agreement"-either between the Associa- tion of Motion Picture and Television Producers (herein called "Association") or the Independent Picture Industry Contract (herein called "Independent") and I.A.T.S.E -provides: With respect to employees hired by the Employer to perform services in the County of Los Angeles, California, or hired by the Employer in the County of Los Angeles to perform services outside said county, the Employer shall give preference of employment to persons having experience in the motion picture industry in said Los Angeles County, in the crafts and classifications of work subject to this agreement. The definitive term of such preference or seniority shall be those contained in the industry experience seniority roster systems as, by agreements, have been set up and maintained industrywide between Employers on the one hand and the International Alliance and/or the respective West Coast Studio Locals on the other hand. In the negotiation and maintenance of such definitive terms, the parties consider, among other things, the length of service of such persons in the motion picture industry in the respective crafts or classifications of work, described in Articles III and IV-hereof, and/or as employees of the Employer. The Respondent admits that the roster system was applied so as to consider only time worked as an employee for signatories to one of these basic agreements which will be discussed more fully hereafter. B. The Issues 1. Respondent admits that the roster system requires that the necessary time worked to qualify must have been as an employee for a signatory to a basic agreement. Respondent contends that the agreements covered a multiemployer unit and accordingly that such require- ments were valid seniority provisions. 2. Respondent further contends that whether or not there were a multiemployer bargaining unit such (roster) employment preference system was a valid and legal hiring arrangement. 3. The General Counsel contends that there was no multiemployer unit and that an employment system granting preference on the basis of work for signatories was necessarily illegal and violated Section 8(b)(1)(A) of the Act. particular instances union membership was a requisite for employment. The General Counsel relies on evidence relating to a permit system, to the employment of Colman, to the employment of Lapenieks, to the employment of Dambacher, and to the Tri-City Agreement. 5. With respect to Lapenieks and Colman, there are several questions. First, Respondent contends that both performed supervisory work and that Colman in addition was an independent contractor and therefore not covered by the Act. Second is the question, assuming that Lapenieks and Colman were supervisors, whether the Act would be applicable under the theory advanced by the General Counsel. Third, what were the facts and circum- stances with respect to their obtaining or not obtaining employment or a contractual arrangement. 6. With respect to the permit system there may be involved a question as to the application of Section 10(b) to some of the evidence adduced and a further question is whether or not the record reflects any illegal action or conduct. The same questions arise with respect to Dam- bacher. 7. The Tri-City Agreement is offered by the General Counsel to establish that members from other cities had preference in employment. Here again there is a question as to just what the agreement involves and how it was applied. Respondent objected to certain testimony as to Dam- bacher under Section 10(b), and as to certain testimony relating to the permit system under Section 10(b). Respon- dent also contests the position of the General Counsel as to the application of the Tri-City Agreement. Respondent further contends, as set forth, that Colman and Lapenieks were supervisors and in any event that there was nothing improper with respect to their employment or nonemploy- ment. C. The Collective- Bargaining Relationship and the Roster System The bargaining relationship and the roster system are set forth together so that the issues as to these can be analyzed and then considered further in the light of the other matters referred to. IATSE has 22 affiliated local unions in Los Angeles County representing about 16,000 employees engaged in work in the motion picture industry in that area. Local 659, one of its local unions, represents motion picture camera- men. The chief employer association is the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc. In 1949 it had seven members. As a result of other employers joining or mergers, in 1964 it had 20 members, and at the time of the hearing about 67 members. In addition to the members of the Association, there are from 200 to 500 additional employers with whom the IATSE has agreements. Before negotiations have commenced for a new agree- ment, IATSE has notified in writing all employers with whom it has had agreements of the commencement of the negotiations. Following is set forth a letter of October 23, 1198 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD 1964 (which is the same as one of October 14, 1960, except for dates specified): Gentlemen: Enclosed herewith is a copy of the "General Proposals" of the I.A.T.S.E. Locals and Basic Crafts as presented to the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc. and other producer associa- tions in the Hollywood area. I am calling your attention to the I.A.T.S.E. Standard Basic Agreement, of which you are a signator, wherein it provides for notice of renegotiations for wages, hours, working conditions, and etc. as of November 1, 1964. Even though you are operating under the terms of the "Standard Agreements" existing between local unions, the-International and members of the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc., or members of other motion picture industry associations, you may be interested in what is being proposed. Matters peculiar to the individual local unions will be negotiated also. If you are interested in these proposals, they will be made available to you, and arrangements made for negotiations, if you so advise. Negotiations are expected to get under way with the Association of Motion Picture and Television Produc- ers, Inc. some time during the early part of November, with the object in view of consummating the agree- ments with members of the Association on or before January 31, 1965. If for any reason you should care to negotiate separately before the consummation of agreements between the International Alliance, its locals and the Association of Motion Picture and Television Produc- ers, Inc., consider these as direct proposals to you and inform this office by letter on or before November 2, 1964; otherwise, the final results of the agreements when reached between the I.A.T.S.E. Unions and the Association of Motion Picture and Television Produc- ers, Inc. will be immediately forwarded to you and will become effective as of February 1, 1965. Sincerely yours, Zeal F;aibanik!s, interna:tionall Rep.relsentVatilve According to IATSE Vice President Flaherty, whose testimony in uncontradicted, except for one employer who "went broke," to his knowledge dating from 1954 no individual employer or group of employers has elected to seek separate negotiations. Accordingly, only one negotia- tion or negotiations have been conducted, as in 1965 when there were representatives of the Association present as well as representatives of an independent association representing 22 to 24 employers and certain nonaffiliated employers. Flaherty further testified: Q. (By Mrs. Robbins) In negotiations with the Association of Motion Picture and Television Produc- ers, did the Association ever represent to I.A. in these negotiations, 1965 and any later ones, that it had authority to bind anyone other than its members? A. No, I don't believe it ever has represented as such. Q. All right. A. They refer to other people it's an open door if they want to come in but they never have said they had them bound. We say so but not them. At the conclusion of negotiations, IATSE signs a "Basic agreement," the one with the members of the Association, being called the "Association Basic," which is mimeo- graphed. For convenience the agreement is also printed and mailed out to all the nonmembers of the Association for signature. This printed agreement is called the "Independent Basic ." The Association Basic and Inde- pendent Basic are identical in almost all respects except for a different method of computing vacation and holiday pay .9 The reason for the latter is that many of the independent companies are "collapsible" and may not be in existence when time for holiday or vacation arrives. Flaherty testified on examination by the General Counsel: Q. (By Mrs. Robbins) As I understand it, in preparing the provisions of this General Counsel's 3, which is the Standard Basic Agreement for Independ- ents , IATSE did not actually negotiate this with any employer but subsequently, after it was printed up on an individual producer basis, the employer decided whether he wanted to be bound by it or not. A. That's right. Q. Is that right? A. He has two copies and he takes one to his attorney and his attorney says it's okay or it's not and they come back, then. If there is anything in there that is not agreeable that we might be able to change, we will work with them but so far, no one has ever found fault with that document. Then on examination by Respondent, Flaherty stated: Q. At what point and where are these contracts called the Independent Basic negotiated? A. As I tried to explain before, they are a copy of the Standard-they are negotiated at the. regular negotiations for the major Basic and then for the few spots that are different, our office, Mr. Bernay, normally, at this time, Mr. Chamie and the Producers Association sets down and makes this up so that it will be-That's where they're actually made. Q. Any changes are actually made with the Association? A. With the Association. That prevails in anything that goes on in this industry. But as I said before, this is-each individual who wants this must come up and 9 The Association agreement also provides for an extra week's vacation after 10 years, which is not in the Independent agreement. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1199 take it and come back and give their answer whether they accept it or don't.'° Article I of the Independent Basic provides: Either party may be written notice to the other, served on or before November 1, 1968 request negotiation of the `Wage Scales, Hours of Employment and Working Conditions' as set forth in Article IV hereof; and the preferential hiring or seniority clauses of any agree- ment in effect between the Employer and the Interna- tional Alliance and any West Coast Studio Local of the International Alliance as set forth above . . . or of any other provision of any contract which may be applica- ble to the Employer by reason of it being effective between such West Coast Studio Locals of the International Alliance and members of the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc., Society of Independent Producers, Inc., or members of any Independent Producers Association or Animated Film Producers Association as set forth in Article IV of this agreement . . . If such notice is served the parties agree to commence negotiations within thirty (30) days after such notice is so served concerning the proposals or recommendations set forth therein and continue such negotiations diligently and in good faith otherwise any agreements entered into by the International its local unions and the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc., and/or Employer Associa- tions shall become effective and binding on the Employer in lieu of such negotiations . . . The negotiators representing each party in such negotia- tions shall have power to execute the agreement reached as a result of such negotiations. It is understood and agreed that if the employer is operating under the terms of the Standard Agreements existing between any local union, the International Alliance and members of the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc., Society of Independent Producers, Inc., Animated Film Produc- ers Association and members of any Independent Producers Association, any changes negotiated in such Standard Agreements by the Alliance and its local unions and the Producer Associations shall be effective and apply to the Employer in the same manner as it is effective and applied to the members of these Associa- tions. Whether or not an employer is a member of the Association, of an independent association or a member of no association, there is one central health and welfare fund for active employees, one central health and welfare fund for retired employees, and one pension plan all provided for under the Basic Agreement. In addition, the Basic Agreement provides for a contract services, administration trust fund, which is administered by the Association and to 10 Carl Stewart , former manager and General Counsel of the Commer- cial Film Producers Association , testified that some members thereof complained they had not been represented in negotiations for the 1965 contract and were dissatisfied because of no representation and/or nonparticipation. Stewart said several members did not sign the Independ- ent Basic until 1967. At that time, IATSE agreed to recognize the Commercial Film Producers Association and negotiate concerning their situation . Stewart said that IATSE later attempted to rescind this recognition agreement , but a Commercial Supplement Agreement was reached in 1969. This latter is specifically referred to on p. 3 of the which employers pay a specified amount for each hour worked by an employee in the unit. Whether or not an employer is a member of the Association, the monies are administered by the Association for the benefit of all those who sign a Basic Agreement and the employees of such employers and used for establishing and maintaining training programs, safety procedures and the experience roster systems. The industry experience roster system came into being on August 10, 1949. Article IX of the Basic Agreement set forth before in the complaint is admitted to be correct as set forth and it spells out the provisions therein as in effect for January 31, 1965. Essentially it sets forth classifications in three seniority groups. The top group, I, must first be exhausted in a particular classification by an employer before he can hire anyone from group II and similarly he must exhaust any employees in the classification of group II before he can hire from group III. If the available employees in groups I, II, or III are exhausted the employer can hire from any source he desires. An individual moves from group III to group I after having worked 130 days while in group III. There is no priority within a group. To obtain roster status an employee must be employed by an employer who is signatory to the Basic Agreement and perform services under that agreement for at least 30 days for a single employer or a total of 90 workdays collectively for more than one signatory employ- er. Employees who achieve roster status have the time credited to them for work performed with a signatory employer for periods prior to the time the employer became a signatory. The physical roster is maintained by the Association for all signatories to the agreement , regardless. of whether or not the employer is a member of the Association. Since 1964 it has tabulated its records by an IBM card system. Ben Batchelder, the administrative assistant to the execu- tive vice president of the Association, maintained the rosters from their inception in 1949 until he retired January 1, 1971. According to Batchelder, "When the employee has completed such services the burden of proving such services is on the employee. He is required to obtain a written statement from his employer or employers as the case may be, certifying that he has satisfactorily completed the required number of days of employment," 30 for a single employer and 90 for a group of employers. Until August 1966 if Batchelder was satisfied with such proof of employment, the employee's name would be entered on the industry experience roster in group III. In August 1966, the qualifications committee for cameramen, appointed by the Association, started functioning, with its first meeting in August and its next in December 1966. After the committee commenced functioning fully, an employee was required to complete an application form recording his Independent Basic of 1969 and incorporated thereto by reference. Stewart also testified that "... it was agreed that at the 1970 negotiations , we could be present and maybe participate but that we would be present as watchers , observers and that we could then participate in the committees but I remember frequently in the negotiations that some member would complain bitterly about the 1965 contract because we had not been represented and had not participated in the framing or the drawing of that Agreement but if you pin me down as to time, date and place, I simply cannot do it." 1200 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD personal employment record and to appear before the committee for an interview. If the committee was satisfied that the employee had performed the required services, he would be placed on the roster. (Commencing sometime in 1967 there was also a requirement that he pass a physical examination.) Batchelder testified that from the time the qualifications committee commenced functioning in August 1966 until November 1970, 324 cameramen were placed on the roster and only 3 were rejected for physical reasons, I for being overweight and the other 2 for color blindness. Eventually these three were also placed on the roster. Batchelder also testified without contradiction " that in 1966, during a busy period in the industry, there were many people who had met the work requirements, but whose names did not physically appear on the roster. The Association was behind in placing people on the roster because of the adoption of its qualifications committee. Doyle Nave, the assistant busi- ness representative and presently business representative of Respondent, testified that there were employees who had worked for years in the industry who had satisfied the roster requirements but had never physically been placed on the roster, in some instances because the man had not bothered to go down and have his name placed on the roster and in others because of the bottleneck existing in the Association offices. Because of this and in order to treat everyone fairly, according to Nave, if a man had the required amount of time and had submitted proof through his employer to the Union utilizing substantially the same standards that Batchelder had used, the Union treated the people as having roster status, as if their names physically appeared on the roster. According to Nave, whose testimony I am crediting herein (unless otherwise indicated),12 this was irrespective of whether the man was a member or not or whether he had paid a permit fee or any monies to the Union. Nave testified that membership in the Union had nothing to do with physical placement on the roster. Nave further said that during the years 1965 to 1966 when the Local had from 1,150 to 1,200 members, approximately "225 people at that time had qualified on the roster as roster status people who in time became members." 13 In April 1966, the Union wrote those whose records indicated they had worked a required amount of time to be placed on the industry experience roster, advising them to contact Batchelder concerning physical placement on the roster. And, on July 19, 1966, the Union submitted to Batchelder a list of approximately 175 persons who it considered had acquired roster status but who had not been placed physically upon the roster. Batchelder, however, would not act unless the individual came in personally and made application and then the individual had to wait for the Qualifications Committee Meeting in order to be placed physically on the roster. According to Nave, if an individual had roster status, irrespective if he was a member of the Union or paid a permit 14 to the Union, he had all the rights and privileges of the roster system. The Union maintained a list of available persons, but, according to Nave's credited testimony,15 it was not required that a man be a member or have a permit to get on the availability lists nor did the lists show a man was a member or permit holder or neither. According to Nave, the Union maintained a file on each individual which reflected his work record. An individual would call in indicating his availability or leave word on an electronic answering device. The Union maintained availability lists by classification and grouping. When an employer called in to find out who was available, the Union would read the available list for the group and classification, sometimes from the top and sometimes from bottom to give everyone ,.an equal chance of reading their names off." According to Batchelder, an employer was not required to call the Union if he knew the individual was available and he could select and hire anyone from the particular group he wanted. According to Nave, employment was effected by the employers who could and did hire persons directly and if the groups were exhausted, the employer could hire from any source. The foregoing indicates that the physical roster was maintained by the employer association and only it could place a man on the physical roster. It also reflects that as a practical matter an employer, unless he hired a man whom he knew was in group I (or could so determine from the Association), would, in order to be sure of the situation, have to call the Union who maintained the only availabili- ty list as to who was working and who was not working. The Union also, as set forth, maintains on its availability list not only those who were physically on the roster at the Association office but those persons whom it considered to have achieved or acquired such roster status. According to Nave, the Union based its so placing of these latter persons on its knowledge of their work for an employer or employers obtained from the employers. Nave testified: "Under the terms of our contract, if they had worked thirty or ninety days, as the case may be, we didn't want to discriminate against these people." Nave also testified that there were eight or nine persons who were not members and did not obtain a work permit (during the time permits were in use) who worked anyway-naming specifically Emmett Dambacher. Nave further testified that during busy periods there were some employees who had not worked the required days to secure roster status but who had worked for signatories to the agreement and whose names had been submitted by various employers. The Union in connection with its files on individuals, which it kept so that it could determine when and whether an individual had the required number of days to be placed on the roster, made a file on these people. In 1966 the number did not exceed 10 or 12. These names did not appear on the roster nor were they said to be on the roster. However, if the roster was 11 This was corroborated by Doyle Nave, infra. 14 The permit issue will be discussed hereafter. 12 See discussion infra. 1' f have also noted certain testimony of Emmett Dambacher discussed 13 At the same time NABET , the only other union in Los Angeles County with agreements covering cameramen , had only 12 to 15 members in such classifications. post and also considered testimony of Vilis Lapenieks, Alex Grasshoff, Joel Colman, and Melvin Dellar, insofar as such may be related thereto. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1201 exhausted and an employer asked if the Union knew of anyone, the employer would be given the name of such an individual and would also be told that he did not have roster status. At this point, the employer could hire from any source he wanted. None of such individuals on the latter list were members nor did they hold permits in or from the Union.16 Qualifications of employees were determined by the employers and the matter of promotion from one classifi- cation to another normally determined by the employer. In the event of disagreements concerning the required time to acquire roster status or to be moved into a higher group the Union could complain to the employer and the matter be treated as a grievance. The roster system as set forth applied only to those employers who had signed a collective-bargaining agreement with the Union containing identical "seniority" or preference provisions and only as to the employees covered under the particular contract. D. Contentions as to Multiemployer Unit Before considering the contentions with respect to effect and application of the so-called permit system which was in effect until March 25, 1967, I will discuss the contentions of the Respondent and the General Counsel 17 as to the type of employer or multiemployer relationship and also as to the validity of the roster system as set forth to this point. The Respondent contends that there is a multiemployer unit and the roster provisions accordingly are valid seniority qualifications and provisions. The General Counsel contends that there is no multiemployer unit involved in the operation of the roster system and that such basis as a predicate for the roster "seniority" or preference provisions is accordingly invalid. The Respondent contends that, even assuming there is not a multiemployer unit, the roster provisions are a proper method and system of hiring or employment under the circumstances herein. The General Counsel contends otherwise. In support of her contention that there is a multiemploy- er unit herein, the General Counsel cited Gordon Electric Company, 123 NLRB 862. Therein about 160 of 960 signatories were members of an association or an employer group. The nonmembers signed statements in which they authorized the employer group to act "as my collective- bargaining agent with IBEW Local Union No. 11 and hereby agree to be bound by the terms and provisions of any amendments to this agreement agreed to by IBEW Local Union No. II and the N.E.C.A. bargaining representative unless written notice of revocation of authorization in writing is given to the N.E.C.A. and the Union at least 120 days prior to the expiration date of this agreement." The Board therein held that it was not persuaded that the 16 As will be noted again, the collective-bargaining agreement contains a union shop agreement which coincides with the Roster requirements. In other words an individual, according to the agreement , must become a member after working 30 days for a particular employer or 90 days for a group of employers signatory to the contract, but not before. In fact, he does not become a member until later, as will be set forth post. 17 The Charging Party's position is similar to the General Counsel's with certain additional contentions relating to prior agreements and their effect, and to certain contentions relative to the meaning of "seniority," which I evidence established that the employer by signing the area agreement and the authorization form "thereby indicated an equivocal intent to be bound in collective bargaining by a group rather than individual action." The Board found "under the particular fact and circumstances of the case, Gordon's conduct amounted at most, to the adoption of an area contract which is insufficient to make an employer part of a multiemployer unit ." The General Counsel also points out that to find a multiemployer bargaining unit the Board requires that the employers have expressly or by implication indicated their intention to be bound in collective bargaining by group rather than individual action, citing Rock Springs Retail Merchants Association, 188 NLRB No. 41 (citing cases), and Moveable Partitions, Inc., 175 NLRB 915. The Respondent contends that it has established there is a multiemployer bargaining unit. Respondent asserts that such intention of the employers is manifested by their entering into the Basic Agreement and continuing to accept the negotiations conducted by the Association and the Union. Respondent also contends, based on Flaherty's testimony, supra, that the various employers could partici- pate if they so desired. Respondent cites a number of cases some of which involve a history of bargaining and substantial reliance by the Board on this bargaining history and the resultant multiemployer contracts.18 The General Counsel claims that there is herein merely adoption of an area contract and no manifested intent to be bound by collective group action. Respondent argues that the signatory employers have been told that they could either refrain from the overall unit bargaining and bargain separately or join in the physical negotiations or be bound by results of the one negotiation. Respondent asserts that the contract provides for an employer being bound by group action unless it indicates otherwise. With respect to the General Counsel's reliance on Gordon Electric, I note that the Board shortly thereafter explained Gordon Electric as in essence limited to its facts and discussed the issue of the intent of the employer in Marble Polishers, Machine Operators and Helpers Local No. 121 AFL-CIO, 132 NLRB 845. In that case the Board said: In Gordon Electric, supra, the Board concluded that the mere fact that an employer signs an area agreement previously negotiated by an employer association, is not sufficient to establish an unequivocal intent to be bound by group rather than individual action. Gordon Electric involved one proposition only a determination of what constitutes evidence of unequivocal intent to be bound in collective bargaining by group rather than by individual action. Analysis of the cases does not provide a square precedent for the situation here involved. However, I do not consider that it is necessary to determine the matter of whether or believe are disposed of by decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court referred to hereinafter. tR International Longshoremens and Warehousemen Union (Ward's Co. Packing), 160 NLRB 232, and Midas Muffler Clinic, 162 NLRB 775. For the proposition that a formal authorization to negotiate or be bound is not necessary Respondent cites among others N.L.R.B. v. Bagel Bakers Council, 434 F.2d 884 (C.A. 2. 1970), 434 F .2d 884 (aff. in part 174 NLRB 622) and N.L.R. B. v. Dover Tavern Owners Association, 412 F.2d 725 (C.A. 3) affg. 169 NLRB 28. 1202 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD not the bargaining herein was or was not multiemployer as the issues, in my opinion, can be resolved on another basis. 19 E. Legality of the Roster System The General Counsel claims that the system as admitted by the Respondent , apart from other evidence to be considered hereafter , is illegal in that it gives preference to employees represented by a union as against employees not represented by a union . The General Counsel also contends , in addition , that union membership is a consideration in employment . The Respondent's position is that the roster hiring system , as set forth , is legal . It denies that union membership is a condition for employment.20 The General Counsel relies primarily on a line of cases involving merger (or consolidation) situations such as N.L.R.B . v. Whiting Milk Corporation, 145 NLRB 1035, enforcement denied 342 F.2d 8 (C.A. 1, 1965). The Board declined to acquiesce in the opinion of the Court of Appeals and followed its decision in Whiting Milk, supra, in Woodlawn Farm Dairy, 162 NLRB 48 at pp . 49, 50 and also in Teamsters ' Freight Local No. 480 (Hilton D. Wall), 167 NLRB 920, enfd , 409 F .2d 610 (C.A. 6).21 In these cases discrimination against employees not represented by a union in establishing a new or merged seniority list was held to be illegal . Respondent cites the Court of Appeals decision in the Whiting Milk case , supra, which was contra to the Board on the grounds that seniority was a bargainable matter. Respondent also cites Simon Levy Ltd. and Local 572 Teamsters , 181 NLRB 124 where the placing of employees who had been represented by one union , at the bottom of the seniority list, when a plant was acquired, then closed , and operations consolidat- ed with those of the acquiring employer whose employees were represented by a second and different union, was held not to be illegal . Credit for seniority purposes was allowed only for the time worked for the acquiring employer whose employees were represented by the second union . Whatev- er may be the effect of these cases there is no doubt that seniority does not have to be limited to the relative length of employment of respective employees nor based on any precise standard . See Ford Motor Company v. Huffman, 345 U.S. 330 and Humphrey v. Moore, 375 U .S. 335 at 349. However, the Respondent relies on a different line of cases in support of the validity of its hiring system. This line of cases deals primarily with hiring halls and /or hiring arrangements , but would appear to be pertinent to the arrangement herein with respect to the order in which persons may be employed . In essence the system here provides first for a seniority preference roster for persons having worked a certain amount of time for a signatory or 19 In view of this I am not considering the effect, if any, of the Commercial Supplement or any effect of a union authorization election in 1949 on the issue of multiemployer bargaining. 20 At this juncture there is being considered the roster system as it is set forth in the contract. There is also, as will appear hereafter, a difference between the General Counsel (and Charging Party) and Respondent as to the use of the terms "roster" and "roster status" . The General Counsel appears to limit these to the physical roster kept by the Association, while Respondent contends the terms cover all persons who have actually met the work requirements and are entitled to be placed on the physical roster. 21 The General Counsel also refers to N.L.R.B. v. IAM Aeronautical signatories. When the "roster" is exhausted the system then allows the employment of anyone regardless of whom they may have worked for and regardless of union membership as will appear more fully hereafter. It should be noted as has been stated and will appear again infra that there is no requirement of union member- ship nor was there any requirement of union membership nor any established utilization of the permit system when in effect, prior to the time at which an employee achieved the necessary time to be placed either physically on the roster or was treated as having roster status by the Union. In fact membership was not granted until later and although a permit was utilized for certain purposes, to be detailed, it was not mandatory nor required of a person seeking to be placed on the Union's availability list. Under such circumstances the Board has long held valid hiring arrangements predicated on worktime for specified em- ployers where limited to a particular area. These appear to recognize the employment problem created by a situation where employees are not customarily and ordinarily employed continuously by the employer but rather must work on a particular job or project and may work at different times for various employers. In such case some orderly system, which affords both some protection to those working and usually living in the area, and some basis of experience appears to be justified. Numerous cases refer to the "area" as constituting a valid basis. In Bricklayers, Masons and Plasterers International Union of America et at, 134 NLRB 751, the Board affirmed the Trial Examiner who stated: In his brief General Counsel analyzes the testimony to demonstrate that the criterion for job preference which Furber indicated was membership in the Respondent. However, in doing so General Counsel equates the terms "Erie men" and "local men" with the term "members of Local 28." While it is true that the record discloses that all "Erie men" or "local men" were, in fact, "members of Local 28," nevertheless it does not disclose that Furber, in asking for preference, used the latter term. Osborne and Floryan testified that Furber did not use such a term nor did they understand him to be asking for a preference for the Local 28 members, as such. In order to accept General Counsel's position it is necessary to conclude that Furber intended by his statement to Floryan and Osborne to obtain a preference based on membership in Respondent, rather than on residence in the area. True, the criterion of residence in the area could only be met by members of Respondent, but I am not satisfied that the coincidence, of itself, would render such a conclusion appropriate. [Emphasis supplied.] Industrial District, 123 NLRB 627 enfd. in certain respects 279 F.2d 761 (C.A. 9), which involves a different situation from that here since the collective-bargaining agreement provided that employees of a production unit represented by the IAM who transferred to other unrepresented units would retain seniority in the production unit as of the date of hire but employees of the production unit transferred to (other) union-represented units would have seniority only from date of their return to the production units and that such would discourage employees from seeking new union representation upon transfer to other units in violation of the Act. Neither do I consider Wallace Corp., 323 U.S. 248, 255-256 (1944), referred to by the General Counsel to be determinative of the issues herein. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1203 The Respondent concedes that it caused the dis- charge of the two Aliens and Smith, but contends that the reason therefor was not their lack of membership in Respondent but their lack of residence in the area and that its conduct based on such motivation was not in violation of the Act. Absent any finding of pretext or sham, I am of the opinion that preferential hiring or job retention based upon an objective criterion such as area residence, particularly in the construction industry, would not be a violation of the Act. [Emphasis supplied.] The Supreme Court, in Local 357, International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Chauffeurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America (Los Angeles-Seattle Motor Express) v. N.L.R.B., 365 "U.S. 667, indicates that discrimination in employment, as such, by employer or union is not outlawed, but that the validity depends on the "true purpose" or "real motive." In the absence of a finding herein that the motive of Respondent was to seek job preference for its members, I do not believe it appropriate to find a violation of the Act, even though Respondent's conduct resulted in a benefit to its members. I note the Trial Examiner referred "particularly to the construction industry" which was there involved. However, I consider his reasoning and the decision equally applica- ble to other industries having many employees who do not work continuously for one employer. In International Marine Terminals, Inc., et al., 137 NLRB 588, a Board panel stated: The Respondents are parties to a collective-bargain- ing agreement which provides for the exclusive hiring of longshoremen through "the Union." The term "the Union," according to the contract, refers to the International Longshoremen's Association, AFL-CIO, and Local 928, International Longshoremen's Associa- tion, AFL-CIO. The contract provides for hiring preference in the following order [Emphasis supplied.] and in the precise terms set forth below: Group 1. Employees with at least 4 or more years in the longshore-trade in the area who have passed a journeyman's examination, and have been employed at least one year out of the last 4 years under a contract between their then employer and the Union. [Emphasis supplied.] Group 2. Employees with at least 4 years in the longshore-trade in the area, and who have passed a journeyman's examination. [Emphasis supplied.] Group 3. Employees with at least 2 years experience in the longshore-trade in the area, who have passed a journeyman's examination and who has [sic ] has been employed at least 6 months in the last 3 years under a contract between his employer and the Union. [Empha- sis supplied.] Group 4. Employees with at least 1 year experience in the longshore-trade in the area and who have passed a journeyman's examination. [Emphasis supplied.] Group 5. All other applicants. In practice, the Respondent Union established two lists of employees for referral purposes, based on questionnaires distributed to job applicants attending a shapeup. These lists were composed of: (1) Men with 4 or more years' experience on the waterfront; and (2) Men with less than 4 years' experience on the waterfront. In New York Times case,' the Board held that somewhat similar contractual provisions were not unlawful. For the reasons stated in that case, Chairman McCulloch and Member Fanning are of the opinion that the contract criteria for job referral based on past work experience under a union contract are not in the instant case unlawful. Thus the hiring criteria herein, as in the New York Times case, also relate to an appropriate consideration in the selection of employees, namely, experience in the area obtained while working for members of the employer-association involved. Moreover, there is no evidence in the instant case that the required work experience necessarily was obtained under contracts containing union -security clauses. If it had been demon- strated that the experience in question necessarily had been obtained under contracts containing such clauses, there would be a basis for finding in the present case discriminatory preference for union members. [Emphasis supplied.] New York Mailers' Union. Local 6 International Typographical Union, AFL-CIO (New York Times Company, and Publishers' Asso- ciation of New York City, 133 NLRB 1052. First, I note this case does not include the construction industry. Second, the dicta set forth as to experience obtained under union-security contracts will be considered further hereafter. In Local Union No. 337, United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipefitting Industry of the United States and Canada, AFL-CIO, 147 NLRB 929 at 930, the Board said: As we have held, [citing cases] the Act does not prohibit a union from trying to ease the impact of local employment by excluding workers holding outside jobs, or by attempting to cause employers to limit work opportunities to strictly local applicants. Another case involving area employment is International Union of Operating Engineers, Local No. 98, AFL-CIO, 155 NLRB 850 at 852, where Trial Examiner Ruckel stated: To accept the General Counsel's contention it is necessary to conclude that Mullen intended his statement to Liggett to obtain a preference based on membership in Respondent rather than on residence in the area. While it is doubtless true that the requirement of residence in the area could only be met by members of Respondent, and while Mullen may have used the terms "my local" and "my area" interchangeably, I am not convinced that membership was the factor in his mind. His reference to "Bosten men" working on the Greenfield project while men in his local were out of work, and his corresponding reference to men from Greenfield area (or Local 98) having been bumped off jobs in the "Boston area," persuade me that what motivated Mullen in requesting and obtaining Bavosi 's replacement was the fact that he was not from the Greenfield area and that 1204 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD his nonmembership in Respondent was only incidental. The Act and the Board 's decisions permit a preference in hiring members of a labor organization where the preference is based on a geographical area. [Citing cases.] [Emphasis supplied.] A recent case particularly apropos is J-M Company, Inc., 173 NLRB 1461 , where the Board affirmed Trial Examiner Foley who found a hiring arrangement analogous to that herein to be a valid one . Trial Examiner Foley stated: I find from this evidence that Parker and Pate were discriminated against on January 22 , 1968, by being denied recall on that date by Respondent Union, and by being replaced on that date by two men referred by Respondent Union and hired by Respondent Compa- ny. There now remains for disposition the vital question of whether the evidence shows they were discriminated against because of non -membership in the Union and not because they lacked area residence and work experience with contractors signatory or parties to the Contract. If the discrimination was for the latter reason, there is no violation. (Citing Local 357 Teamsters v. N.LR. B., 365 U.S. 667 .) [Emphasis supplied.] The legality of the exclusive - hiring hall operated by Respondent Union is not in issue. However, illegality does not attach per se to an exclusive hiring hall system operated by a union under a collective-bargaining contract providing that in connection with referrals by the union a preference shall be given to area residents of 2 years or more in accordance with the extent of their work experience as employees of employers signatory to parties to the collective -bargaining contract, and providing that no discrimination against persons seeking employ- ment because of membership or non -membership in the union shall be shown by the union either in the maintenance of a referral list or in the referrals for employment, and that the selection of applicants for referral by the union shall not in any way be based on or affected by union membership, by-laws, rules , regula- tions, constitutional provisions, or any other aspect of union membership, policies or requirements. The evidence shows that the exclusive hiring hall operated by Respondent Union is operated under such a collective- bargaining contract . Therefore there is no presumption that the denial by the Respondent Company and Respondent Union, in the operation of the exclusive hiring hall system, of reemployment to non -members lacking permanent residence in the area specified in the Contract, and lacking work experience as employees of contractors signatory or parties to the . Contract, is on its face discriminatory conduct violative of the Act. The burden is on the General Counsel to prove that the conduct in issue constitutes illegal discrimination . [Citing cases.] [Emphasis supplied.] I find from the evidence that Respondent Union had a referral list or register containing names of competent operating engineers with 2 years' permanent residence who were either living in the specified area or had left it temporarily with the intention to return, kept current by the re-registration of these engineers on the list or register on the first Monday in each quarter of each calendar year . I find that these engineers received a seniority or priority number based on the extent of work experience as employees of contractors signatory or parties to the Contract, and were listed on the register or list in the order of these numbers from lower to higher. I find no evidence in the record that the names were placed on the list or register , or in any order of preference on the list or register, by reason of member- ship in the Union or in connection with membership in the Union. It may well be that all those registered on the referral list and having seniority numbers were union members since the Contract and prior collective -bargain- ing contracts had union security clauses requiring membership in the Union after 7 days of employment, or after 30 days prior to the amendment that changed the period for the construction industry to 7 days after employment from 30 days after employment. In any event, if it was the case, it cannot be assumed that the list or register was discriminatory in favor of those having membership in the Union, and against those not having membership in the Union . [Citing cases .] [Emphasis supplied.] A like result was reached in International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 302, AFL-CIO, 186 NLRB No. 4 where a contract between the Union and certain chapters of Associated General Contractors covered a certain geographical area which coincided with the Union's jurisdiction . The Trial Examiner's Decision states: Section 3 outlines the order of reference, for hiring or rehiring, from an out-of-work list in the following sequence : Group 1, operating engineers "who have been employed by an employer or employers, parties to this agreement" who have worked 500 hours or more within a period of 2 years immediately preceding registration date; Group 2, operating engineers with the same qualifications but less than 500 hours employment within the 2 year period ; and Group 3 all other applicant operating engineers. [Emphasis supplied.] s s s s s "Employers" under this paragraph mean , ( 1) any employer party to this Agreement, (2) an out-of-town employer who adopts or works under this Agreement and contributes to the health and welfare and/or pension plans, and (3) any employer who employs operating engineers under the terms of this Agreement and is a contributing employer, within the meaning of the health and welfare and pension plans. And, after discussing Section 8 (f) of the Act, continues: Respondent urges that a consistent application of a requirement that a registrant on the out-of -work list have prior employment within the geographical area covered by the collective-bargaining agreement be- tween Local 302 and Mountain Pacific-AGC is not violative of Section 8(b)(IXA) or (2) of the Act. [Citing cases.] I concur. [Emphasis supplied.] While the decision does not indicate whether or not a union-security clause was incorporated in the contract, it is most unlikely that it would not be. Although most cases involve the construction industry, as indicated, supra, some do not and I do not believe such to be a distinguishing factor. Also, although dicta in the IATSE, LOCAL 659 1205 International Marine Terminals, Inc., case , supra, indicated that a union-security clause might make a difference in result, I note that it did not affect such in J-M Company Inc., supra, nor apparently also in Operating Engineers Local 302, AFL-CIO, supra. Another difference herein is that , although the contracts contain union -security clauses, in fact membership is not ordinarily obtained until 2 years after acquiring roster status. (See supra and post). The foregoing is in my judgment conclusive of the validity of the hiring arrangement (or roster . system) which I find would not violate the Act unless there is specific evidence of preference because of union membership or other similar requirement as claimed by the General Counsel which will be examined hereafter. F. The Permit System22 From 1943 to 1967 Respondent issued cards headed "Work Permit" which read : "This is to certify that 11- - is granted permission to work as - - from -- . According to Nave and Emmett Dambacher, an employee, it was Respondent's usual practice not to accept a person into membership until he had been a permit holder for about 2 years. According to Nave, the permit system was established to give an individual a means of identification , particularly when he went on location outside of Los Angeles County. Nave testified it was customary on location that crafts or other members would ask a man to show some type of identification as to whose jurisdiction the man might be working under. The permit card was used in the same fashion in this respect as a membership card and the amount of the permit fee and service fee equivalent to the amount of dues which were on a graduated scale. According to Nave the payment of a permit fee or the acquisition of membership had nothing to do with obtaining or retaining employment . Batchelder who administered the physical roster system was unaware of the permit system . As previously set forth , according to Nave, permits were not issued to an individual unless he had worked the amount of time for a signatory necessary to have achieved roster status which was determined from his employment record . An individual was entitled to a permit if he desired one if he had been so employed. Individual employees asked for permits and after a 2-year waiting period were granted membership in the Union . According to Nave , as stated , there were seven or eight persons who did not take out work permits including Emmett Dam- bacher . Dambacher admitted working in 1965, 1966, and 1967 without taking out a permit or paying any money to Local 659 until after May 9, 1967, when he became a member. Although Joel Colman , discussed in detail hereafter , started working for Reagan Associates on January 26 , 1968, Colman testified he paid no money to the Union until after he had achieved group I status on July 25, 1968. At that time he paid an initiation fee. Colman said he never had a permit and never paid a permit fee . No one made a demand that Colman be fired or pay dues or permit fees to the Union. However, I note that the Reagan employment was in 1968 and that the permit system had ended in 1967. According to Nave , the permit cards were not shown or required to be shown to employers nor did an employer call and ask the Union to issue a permit . Neither did a man have to show a permit to work . The Union tried to get men with requisite worktime to come in and give the Union the necessary information concerning the amount of days worked and at such time permits would be issued to them. If the individual refused to pay for a permit , according to Nave no issue was made of it. As long as the men were qualified and had roster status, it was their right to work. The General Counsel contends that the permit holder enjoyed an advantage in the employment market because he was on the Union 's availability list which most signatories did not have nor did most of them have a copy of the physical roster , so that for information as to who was eligible under the employment terms of the contract they would turn to Respondent . According to General Counsel, Respondent 's assistance came in the form of its availability list which purported to list the persons eligible for employment who were presently available for work. General Counsel contends "however , permit holders as well as persons on the roster are permitted to be listed on the availability list. When an employer calls in to find out who is available the list of persons in the top priority is read to the employer. The list might include permit holders not included on the roster and unless an employer specifically inquired he would not be informed whether the person was or was not on the roster nor in what group the person was ." The latter involves an issue which arose throughout the hearing as between the "physical" roster and "eligibility" for the roster. The General Counsel at this point is referring to a physical roster . While the association kept a physical roster, the eligibility requirements are set forth in the contract. From a contractual standpoint it might arguably be a violation thereof to effect hiring through a list combining the physical roster people with qualified persons eligible to be on the roster if such were to result in hiring qualified and eligible persons not on the physical roster ahead of persons on the physical roster . In fact, except for Dambacher's testimony concerning Cal Roberts discussed, post, there does not appear to be any evidence of such herein. Further while literal compliance with the contractual provisions for resolving roster status may be requisite thereunder it would seem that if in fact the employees had such eligibility for the roster and were entitled to be on the roster they could be treated as such and employed as such in preference to persons without the qualifications to be placed on the roster . Accordingly, insofar as the Union placed employees on its availability list and treated them as the equivalent of those placed physically on the roster, there would appear to be only the question of the accuracy of the Union's so placing such employees , that is, were these persons entitled to be on the roster . As set forth according to Nave , the Union did inquire as to an employee's employment record and kept certain informa- 22 There is no allegation in the complaint that the permit system was allegations of the complaint. illegal, but evidence relating thereto was offered in support of the other 1206 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD tion with respect thereto. Nave said that before a permit would issue the Union required information from an employer that "he had worked for them for a given period of time and the employer felt that in their experience of working with this man that he had qualifications and capabilities and aptitude for this type of work." The period of time was "thirty days or ninety days, whatever the case may be." 23 If the individual was so, entitled, it would appear that he could properly be treated accordingly. According to Nave's testimony, it does not appear (except for the limited exception noted in fn. 23) that any persons were placed on the Union's availability list in this manner who had not met the contractual eligibility requirements. However, according to Emmett Dambacher24 he worked with persons not eligible for roster placement who were issued permit cards. Dambacher said when he worked as a grip 25 he worked with a Cal Roberts and a Joe Marquette, Jr., who had never worked 1 day in the industry. According to Dambacher, Joe Marquette told him this and that he got the job because he got a permit from Local 659. Dambacher also testified ". . . and when I was working for MPO, this occasion would arise." There would be an assistant who I had not seen around and I would ask him; in most cases they were very open about it. They would say, "No, I am not on the roster, I am not in the Union. In fact, I do not have time to go on the roster yet but I have a permit from Local 659. TRIAL EXAMINER: How many such persons were there that told you this? THE WITNESS: Oh, I don't know, four or five, six, eight. TRIAL EXAMINER: Did you see their permit cards? : s s * s TRIAL EXAMINER: Well, let us get at this. Who were these people? s s s s s THE WITNESS : Well, I have established that Ron McMannus and Serge Haignere were . I believe it came up in Mr . Doyle's testimony that they were listed as on the permit roster . Now, these people were not on the industry roster nor were they members of the Union. TRIAL EXAMINER : You are saying they were not physically on the roster, is that what you are talking about now? THE WITNESS : They weren 't physically on the roster. TRIAL EXAMINER: All right. Now getting back to the other, who else did you talk to? You mentioned seven, eight or nine people whom you saw working there and you did not recognize them 23 According to Nave, permits were not issued nor permit fees paid until a man acquired roster status with the exception that if a man were going "to go on a job where we could not supply our normal manpower" (a location) and maybe "he'd be gone for two or three weeks and he'd be running into that period of time (to qualify) I think what we would try to do would be to help him as a means of identification, again." 24 Dambacher started as a "grip" 27 years ago, first worked as an and you asked them how come they were working or something like that. THE WITNESS: Well, now, all of these was not a card. I mean , some of it was possibly an assumption on my part. I was working for Jack DeNobi as a crab dolly operator. Matthew Leonetti was on that same case. We were shooting religious programs for television. Doyle Nave came in on the set and asked Matthew if we were going to finish shooting that night and Matthew said, yes. He said , "Be sure and get your name on the list so that you can get your time in for your thirty days-you know-or your ninety days in the industry," whichever one he said. Now, I have worked at Schnitzer's where Cal Roberts has told me that he did not have a card nor was qualified to go on the roster, even, but that he had a permit in the Union. Joe Martinett,26 I worked with the first, second and third day he ever worked in the industry and he told me that he had to have a card before he could get the job and that he did have a permit in Local 659 before he took his first day's work. Now, I had no reason not to believe these people. In Joe's case, I had seen his permit. Dambacher also said Cal Roberts was working at Gerald Schnitzer's as assistant cameraman and he as a grip at a time Dambacher was physically on the cameramen's roster and Roberts was not. As for persons named above by Dambacher, I note first that his testimony either has no probative value or little probative force toward establishing the conclusions assert- ed by him as to the status of these persons-since essentially predicated on hearsay. Second, as to certain persons and instances specified, it is clear they would be outside the 10(b) period, while in other instances it is not evident whether they were within or without the 10(b) period.27 Finally with respect to the persons named, the record reflects Serge Haignere's starting date in Local 659's jurisdiction was 10/15/65 and permit date 12/3/65, membership date 4/26/66 and he went on the physical roster (of the Association) on 8/29/66. Ron McMannus' starting date in Local 659's jurisdiction was 10/15/65 and permit date 12/3/65 and membership date 5/1/67 and he went on the physical roster 2/20/67. The record reflects Matthew Leonetti (a loader) started work under Local 659's jurisdiction 10/29/64, received a permit on 7/26/65 and became a member 6/ 1 /67 and is listed on the physical roster as of 2/23/67. As for Cal Roberts and Joe Marquette, I note that the names of Herbert C. Roberts and Joe Marquette (together with the names of Haignere, McMannus, and Leonetti) appear on a four-page list of names submitted as attachment to a letter by Aller to the Association on July 19, 1966, as persons working under assistant cameraman over 5 years prior to the hearing and was first placed on the cameramen 's roster August 23, 1966. 25 A grip is a member of the mechanical crew who Colman said moves the cameras , sets stands, etc. 26 I find no records relating to a Martinett . This may be an error in transcription and probably Joe Marquette . Jr.. is intended. 27 June 20, 1966, would be the 10(b) cutoff date. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1207 union jurisdiction but not on the industry experience roster. Also referred to and accompanying Aller's letter were two draft letters, one undated and one dated April 4, 1966, to "Dear Sir," advising that the Union believed the individual had met the necessary qualifications and asking their employers to furnish the Association necessary information to be placed on the industry experience roster. Dambacher also asserted that Aller, who was at the time business manager of Local 659, sometime in 196528 told him that he had to find his own job and that the Union did not issue permits.29 Actually, as Nave credibly testified, the Union did not maintain a list30 of nonqualified persons or give permits to such. The General Counsel asserts "according to Dambacher's undenied testimony after he was placed on the roster he was refused a permit card and told by Nave that he could not use the availability list without a permit." Dambacher also testified as follows: Q. Now, Mr. Dambacher, after you were placed on the industry experience roster in August of 1966, did you make another application for membership in Local 659? A. Yes, I did. Q. All right. And did you have any conversation with anyone from Local 659 relative to this application for member- ship? A. Yes. Q. All right. When did you make the application for member- ship? A. The day after I went before the camera Qualifications Committee, I went to Local 659 and I believe I talked to Mrs.- Q. Are you referring to Mrs. Burley? A. Yes. And I asked for an application for membership in Local 659 and I asked that my name be put on the availability list. According to Dambacher, Mrs. Burley gave him an application for a permit and he said that he did not want a permit but wanted an application for membership and to be put on the availability list. Dambacher testified Mrs. Burley then called Nave who according to Dambacher told him the policy of Local 659 was to require a permit for a 2- year period and Dambacher would not be able to use the availability list unless he had a permit but that Nave would allow Dambacher to use the availability list until the problem as to permit concerning him was resolved. Dambacher admitted on cross-examination that Nave did give him an electronic telephone recording number so that he could indicate when he was available for work. Dambacher also testified he had tried to obtain a permit and was refused on a number of occasions after he made application to be on. the industry roster in January 1966 and his appearance before the Camera Qualifications Committee but could not recall the dates.31 Dambacher said he did not say he had a job at the times when he went in to see the Union about a permit and added "I don't think it came up whether I was working or whether I was not working." Nave testified (prior to Dambacher's testimony) on examination by Attorney Adler: Q. (By Mr. Adler) Did you not, on occasion, tell persons that they would not receive referral service unless they had a permit? A. Did I tell anybody that? No. Q. Did you ever hear anybody else at the Union tell anybody that? A. No. Permit was not a condition of employment. Q. Did you ever hear Herb Aller state to an employee or a person employed in the industry or who was seeking employment in the industry that he, Herb Aller, controlled employment in the industry and he intended to continue to control employment in the industry? A. Never heard him make that statement. Q. Did you ever hear him make a statement similar to that? A. How could he employ a man when the employer is the one- TRIAL ExAMINER: You have answered the question, Mr. Nave. THE WITNESS: I was trying to help you. MR. ADLER: I appreciate that. Q. Were there persons who held permits during 1966 from Local 659 who did not have what you consider roster status? MR. MAMET: The question has been asked and answered. A. (By the Witness) Not that I recall. In any event, as set forth Dambacher did admit that irrespective of whether or not he held a permit or membership he was allowed to use the availability list by calling in, supra. Dambacher further testified: Q. And not until you became a member, did you pay anything to Local 659? A. That's correct. Q. And you never had a permit? A. That's correct Q. And nevertheless, you were on the availability list, were you not? A. Yes, I did receive one call so I must have been on the-list. Q. Are you disputing the fact that you were on the list? A. Yes, most of the time. Would you like me to explain that? Dambacher also admitted his name was submitted to Len 28 Clearly in any event outside the 10(b) period. 29 Aller, it was agreed by all concerned, was so ill that he could not testify at the hearing and this explains his failure to testify on a number of matters. ao Respondent did at times have some names of persons who had performed some work that it would furnish on request if its available list of qualified persons were exhausted. 3' The complaint asserts and Dambacher claims that Respondent caused Wilding to let him go on June 14, 1966. Not only is this outside the 10(b) period , but the testimony in support of this is hearsay which , as I stated at the hearing, I would not use as a basis of a finding. 1208 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Ephraim of Schwitzer Productions even though Nave thought he was a "troublemaker." 32 I am crediting Nave's testimony with regard to the foregoing, first, because it is evident that Dambacher's testimony was in numerous instances conclusionary rather than probative-such as with respect to the status of persons he worked with and with respect to the permit system and the use of the roster. Second, in instances there is variance or inconsistency between direct and cross-al- though at first asserting he was told he would not be granted the use of the Union's availability list without a permit, he admitted he had been given an electronic recording number to call and in fact he had been referred to a job and had worked without a permit or paying fees to the Union. I also observed the witnesses carefully and was particularly impressed with Nave's efforts to respond honestly,33 while both a reading of the record and my observation of Dambacher led me to conclude that he felt strongly about matters and was at times accordingly responding with conclusions and assertions. The General Counsel contends and Nave admitted that Respondent requires its members and permit holders to report to Respondent as to when they go on distant location as to the identity of the camera crew and to report if a member of the camera crew has no affiliation with the Respondent. Accordingly, the General Counsel states that "to hold a permit card means a fellow employee will not initiate an inquiry into one's eligibility to work." The General Counsel then adds: "It is clear that for all practical purposes eligibility to work was determined not by the Roster maintained by the Association but by the `roster maintained by the Union.' " This contention evidently is that the latter was both the fact and illegal. I have previously considered this matter, supra. In addition, the Union could be the only one to check on compliance with the contract since the Association, according to Batchelder, had no direct way to check on whether the employers were hiring in accordance with the contract. Only the Union maintained an availability list and only the Union was in a position to check on whether there was compliance with the contract. The employees insofar as they might check and report back to the Local were furnishing information which would enable the Union to police the contract. If the employees knew the individual there would normally be no problem; if they did not, and this was particularly true on location, then there could be a problem of identification. The permit, at least at the time it was utilized, acted to identify the individual, to verify that the Union had checked him out and, ordinarily, that he had satisfied the Union and met the requirements to be on the roster. As long as the permit was not mandatory to his working on the job, there could be no violation. Nave, as set forth, testified that there were some seven or eight persons who worked without a permit, including Dam- bacher. Whatever may have likely been the overall effect of the system involved here and whatever may be likely to result, the Supreme Court has made it clear that there is no per se inference to be drawn from such a situation. See Teamsters Local 357, International Brotherhood of Team- sters, 365 U.S. 667. Accordingly, I find that the permit system, as set forth and analyzed in the record, does not lend support to the General Counsel's contentions as to any claimed violations herein and I do not find any illegal conduct resulting therefrom. G. The Tri-City Agreement The Tri-City Agreement involves certain agreements among the locals of the Union with respect to working in one another's territory with the General Counsel contend- ing that this in effect amounted to an exception to the roster system in favor of union members. The Tri-Local Agreement in part is as set forth in the complaint, supra. There are three cameramen local unions in the IATSE-Local 644 in New York, Local 666 in Chicago, and Local 659 in Los Angeles County-with jurisdiction over 13 western States . Local 659 has no agreements with the New York companies who are covered by the 644 agreement . According to General Counsel's witness, Melvin Dellar, in charge of MPO-TV of California and of the West Coast business that might be conducted by MPO Videotronics (located in New York). MPO Video Electronics of New York, a New York corporation, shoots all over the United States. It does not have an agreement with Local 659 but with 644. Local 659 has no control over MPO Video Electronics and the position of the Company is that it is unrestricted in where it operates. According to Nave, if Local 659 has no contractual agreement with the New York employers, an individual coming in from New York has the legal right to work any place he pleases. Local 659 attempted to have the New York companies sign a basic agreement but apparently without success. Nave testified that the Tri-Local Agreement was designed to protect the respective jurisdictions of each local and the arrangement worked out was that when the members of one local worked in the territory of another no one in the territory in which the work was performed would be displaced and the manpower would be supplied from within that particular territory. Accordingly, although the Union could not control nonsignatories and employees covered by agreements in other territories they would insist that an entire photographic crew come from the territory where the work was being performed so that, while Local 659 could not prohibit New York cameramen from coming in, if the sister local and its members cooperated, they would insist that an entire crew be hired from the roster. This would be the case even though the New York company brought its own employees, they would then be matched man for man from the roster. To police this, the Tri-Local Agreement would require notification to the Union in whose territory the work was being performed by either the sister local or the man coming in. Sometimes a partial crew was brought in or only a director of photography, and a local was asked if anyone was available to fill in the rest of the crew. In this latter event the Local 659 crew would be the entire crew. In some instances the crew or the Company did not report that they 32 In this connection in discussing available personnel, Nave gave 33 Wherever I have referred to Nave's testimony herein, it is credited Dambacher's name to Ephraim, according to Ephraim, with the comment unless otherwise indicated. he is a "troublemaker." IATSE, LOCAL 659 1209 were coming in or the Local (659) was unaware of it and would know nothing about the crew working in Los Angeles territory. According to Nave, whenever the Local knew of a New York company who brought in a director of photography or crew then Local 659 required a collaborating director of photography and crew if one were brought in or if not hiring a crew from the roster. The Tri- Local Agreement provides that when two-thirds of pro- duction is made in any one territory, the local entering the territory shall be permitted to enter with a camera crew and the territory in whose jurisdiction the work is being performed shall put on a full collaborating crew. Nave recalled only one picture when two-thirds was made in New York and the picture was finished in California. The General Counsel asserts: "the evidence shows that under the agreement cameramen from Local 644 in New York worked for signatories without regard to the roster provision of the collective-bargaining agreement" The General Counsel refers to certain testimony of Nave, Dambacher, and Stewart with respect to claimed incidents of cameramen from Local 644 working for signatories without regard to the roster provision. There is some evident confusion in response to a question relating to standby directors in 1966. Counsel Adler asked Nave: Q. (By Mr. Adler) In 1966, were there occasions, to your knowledge when New York cameramen were engaged in production in Los Angeles for an I. A. signatory when there was not a local stand-by director of photography? A. Oh, yes. There's been many occasions where they have come out and worked but the I. A. cameraman coming out of New York was working for the New York company in his jurisdiction, but the cameraman that we had here would work on-was on local payroll here. Nave was also asked about Local 644 directors of photography working in Los Angeles county without standby directors. Q. And they worked in Los Angeles county during 1966 and 1967 without stand-by directors of photogra- phy. Is that not true? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. You know of no instance in which they worked without a Los Angeles director, without- A. We caught some that snuck in here without reporting to us and we found it after the fact. This happened. This happened. Q. You had a report, did you not, from the crew members who were there with any company; would you not know whether there was a director of photography from the information that was phoned in to you? A. Not necessarily. Nave was asked about Torbin Johnke (a Local 644 cameraman): Q. And did you know that Mr. Johnke was employed in the Los Angeles area? A. We learned of his employment here when we got some records from the health and welfare that his name appeared on the health and welfare benefits, that he was employed by MPO, which was illegal under our contract because he was here on assignment out of New York and unfortunately, he was one of these men coming out of New York previously who had gotten acquainted and been working for MPO. Nave added "nobody had reported to him that he was back here working . . . and THE WITNESS: The only thing I could add is that in order not to cause any distrubance over the fact that they had committed themselves to this man and they had some kind of a contract, I think he was permitted to continue on the assignments that he was on, to finish up the assignment that he was on. Nave was also asked: Q. Now, when MPO or any other commercial producer that was a signatory to the I.A. Independent Agreement brought a cameraman from New York to work in Los Angeles and to work with a camera operator and assistant cameraman who were members of Local 659, did you in all instances require a stand-by for that director of photography? A. Yes. Dambacher testified as to working in some instances with directors of photography from New York without a collaborating crew. He was unable to state whether the Union was aware of or had checked out these particular instances. This would not necessarily contradict Nave who conceded that there were instances where the Union was unaware of the presence of Local 644 people. Carl Stewart representing the Commercial Film Association testified to a conversation with Aller as follows: Q. (By Mr. Adler) Mr. Stewart, in your meeting in May of 1968 about which you have testified with Mr. Aller, did he acknowledge that he knew that the members of your Association were bringing in directors of photography from New York and employing them without a standby? A. Yes. Q. Did you ever have a discussion with Mr. Aller or any other representative of the I.A. with regard to why producers could employ New York Cameramen but could not employ local non-roster cameramen? A. Yes.. Q. Do you recall when such discussion took place? A. At the time we were discussing this Tri-Local Agreement and apparently, it was understood under the terms of the Tri-Local Agreement that New York cameramen could come out here even though we could not hire local cameramen. Q. Did Mr. Aller explain why you could not hire local cameramen? A. Because of the experience roster. s a : Q. (By Mrs. Robbins) Did Mr. Aller explain why you could use New York directors of photography? A. Because under the Tri-Local Agreement, appar- ently, this was an inter-union agreement and somehow was an exception to the experience roster. 1210 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Q. Did Mr. Aller say this? A. Yes. Q. All right. A. And there was further conversation to the effect that they had let the members-they had let the New York cameramen come in in violation of the Tri-Local Agreement without hiring standbys but because we had attacked the experience roster, they were going to enforce the Tri-Local Agreement against us. TRIAL EXAMINER: In what year was this conversa- tion? THE WITNESS: This was May, June, July, this period in here , after the Pelican- TRIAL EXAMINER: 1968? THE WITNESS : Right. The latter part may be consistent with the testimony of Melvin Dellar (of MPO-TV) who testified that in the period 1958 to 1968 Aller discussed his employment of New York cameramen from time to time, that Aller was aware of such employment either from Dellar or heard it from Local 644. Dellar said in most cases from 1958 through 1968 he did employ a Local 659 standby. He also said "there was a very short time34 that we did not have to employ a 659 man when a 644 man came into the territory." (Emphasis supplied). Dellar said thereafter they did have to have a standby-that Local 659 required this. The foregoing indicates an arrangement among the locals to work out a method of adjustment in terms of units that would travel or companies, such as MPO Video Electronics, that had local subsidiaries in California. The fact that there may have been some variations from the Tri-Local Agreement does not, in my opinion, nullify the validity of the roster system which was limited to and designed to be protective of employment in the Los Angeles area. There was a general requirement that there be a standby crew or collaborating crew which would work with and/or fill in the New York crew so that there would in essence be fulfillment with the roster requirements. If the New York company operated without the knowledge of the Union or without reference to a signatory, in such event Local 659 would evidently have no effective means of enforcing the standby (or collaborating) provisions- which it sought to enforce except for a"short period" as set forth above. Accordingly, I find no violation of the Act by virtue of the Tri-City Agreement or its application herein. H. The Allegations as to Lapenieks and Colman 1. Introductory As to Lapenieks and Colman, the evidence in my opinion will not show anything other than the application of the roster system, but I will briefly consider the same. In addition, I am finding that both Lapenieks and Colman as directors of photography were supervisors during all times material. Further, Respondent contends that Colman was an independent contractor. The General Counsel asserts that the foregoing makes no difference under her theory of the case and cites cases in support thereof. These cases will 34 The exact period of nonenforcement of the standby requirement is not precise but evidently prior to sometime in 1968-from combining Stewart's and Dellar's testimony. be analyzed and considered hereafter. Although there is substantial evidence in the record to indicate that Colman was an independent contractor and it may be that such a finding could be made , since I am concluding that both Colman and Lapenieks as directors of photography were supervisors, I deem it unnecessary to resolve whether or not Colman was an independent contractor.35 2. Supervisory status of Directors of Photography Colman and Lapenieks Director of Photography Joel Colman testified: "There are usually creatively now, two lines of authority on the set." Colman said one line would be the director and assistant director in charge of talent. Colman was then asked: "Is the director of photography in charge of the mechanical crew?" He answered, "Creatively, yes." And said, "Nothing beyond that that I can think of." Colman was also asked: Q. Now by creatively, you mean the end result, the image that is secured on the film? A. Right. Q. And the director of photography in getting this image is in charge of the camera crew? Is he not? A. In getting that image, yes. Q. And in charge of the mechanical crew? A. Creatively, yes. Q. Getting the image, getting the end result, is that what we mean? A. Getting the visual image on film, yes? Colman was asked whether that included the camera crew and he answered: "Most of the time, yes." He was asked if it included the electrician's crew and answered, "Usually yes." He was asked whether it included the grips and he answered, "Usually yes." Colman was asked: "Is it not true that the director tells the director of photography what results he wants and then the director of photography has to interpret this in terms of what specific instructions he will give to the mechanical crew?" Colman answered, "yes." He was asked if production meetings were held prior to shooting and replied they were. Colman testified that the people in attendance in production meetings were limited generally to the producer, the director and his assistant, the director of photography, and the client and in the case of MPO, Melvin Dellar, who was the head of MPO-TV of California. Colman said the director of photography was there for the purpose of obtaining the necessary informa- tion so that he can instruct his mechanical crew and get the result. He was asked: "Now as a matter of fact, the director himself never gives any instructions to the mechanical crew, this all comes from the director of photography?" A. Speaking of electricians, grips and camera crew, yes. Q. And the director of photography specifically tells the mechanical crew what he wants them to do? A. To achieve the effect he's after, yes. Accordingly, under Colman's direction as director of photography were and are the camera crew including an operator cameraman and assistant cameraman who loads 35 Some of the "evidence" relating to Colman and Lapenieks may be outside the 10(b) period, but, in view of the resolution made hereafter, this would not affect any findings or conclusions herein. IATSE, LOCAL 659 1211 the camera, handles the lens, and does whatever the director of photography instructs him to do. There are also the grips and the gaffers (head electricians). In an affidavit given to the Board, Colman stated: As director of photography, I tell members of the mechanical crew specifically what I want them to do. I do not tell them the result I want and let them determine how to do it. I specifically instruct them what to do. For example I tell the gaffer where I want lights located, the intensity desired, etc. I tell the grips where I want the camera located and the sequence in which the camera location is changed. Colman was asked if the foregoing and certain other parts of the affidavit were entirely correct. Colman answered: "Yes, I think it is essentially what I was-felt at the time and the answers I gave at the time ." Colman was asked if he had something he wanted to add and responded, "No." He then added "there were other things necessary . . . to give a true picture." At one point, Colman sought to minimize his supervisory functions, but after being shown his affidavit it became evident that the director of photography decides and recommends how many assistant cameramen are needed in the production meeting, but may not always get them. He also can recommend who would be on his camera crew. After first stating sometimes his recommendations would be followed and sometimes not, Colman admitted that each time he asked to have someone on his crew in terms of camera assistant when there was an opening, his recommendation was followed "as nearly as I can recall." Colman has selected. his own gaffer (head electrician). Colman also said as director of photography he also determines what equipment he will need and what size crew in excess of the minimum and participates in determining how many electricians are necessary. Colman also stated that he recommended a gaffer be discharged in one instance and that although his recommendation was not followed immediately it was eventually. Dambacher also testified as to the fact that there were the same two lines of supervision including the director and the director of photography. Alex Grasshoff, who was a writer-producer-director called by the General Counsel, also testified that Lapenieks as director of photography had the power and authority to make recommendations with regard to hiring or firing other members of the crew. He was asked by Mr. Adler: Q. I think I asked you in making your judgment would you rely upon what you yourself observed while being on the set as a director. A. Yes, but I would be inclined to take his recommendation even if I didn't understand it if it related to his job. Grasshoff testified that the directors of photography direct the camera crew, they tell the camera crew what to do, they direct the grips and the gaffers and that the director of photography was in charge of the camera crew, the grips, and the gaffers. Although Colman tried to make it appear that all he did was related to the creative responsibility and that he didn't have to tell the crews much, he conceded that initially he would have to tell them what to do, but that eventually they got to know by his grunts and groans what he wanted. It is clear from the foregoing that the directors of photography ordinarily, and in both the Colman and Lapenieks cases , participated in management meetings, directed the work force, and instructed crews of camera- men, grips, and gaffers in their work. This would be in detail where necessary and less so where the crew was used to the director. Directors of photography are also responsi- ble for the results achieved and can effectively recommend persons for employment or select them for their camera crew and apparently have the power to effectively recommend discharge. Since directors of photography (including Colman and Lapenieks) responsibly direct and assign the work force and can effectively recommend employment, selection, and discharge, it is clear and I find that Colman and Lapenieks as directors of photography were supervisors within the meaning of the Act. See Society of Motion Picture and Art Directors Columbia Pictures, et a!., 94 NLRB 456 and see also Northwest Publications, 116 NLRB 1578. 3. Qualifications of Lapenieks and Colman to perform the work The position of the General Counsel and the Charging Party is that with respect to Vilis Lapenieks and Joel Colman each was fully qualified to handle and perform the functions of director of photography having had extensive experience with various employers who were not signato- ries to the contract. For the purpose of this discussion, I am assuming that each had requisite technical and professional qualifications for the position. 4. Circumstances relating to Lapenieks and Colman All of Lapenieks prior experience was with nonsignato- ries including about 4 years as staff director of photogra- phy for Wolper Productions. In July 1966, according to Director Alex Grasshoff, he told Vice President George Flaherty of IATSE, that Y-A Productions, Inc., was doing a feature documentary called the Young Americans and he wanted to sign an IATSE contract but desired to use a particular cameraman, Lapenieks. Flaherty called Respon- dent's business agent, Aller, into the conversation. Accord- ing to Grasshoff, Aller said he didn't want Lapenieks in the IATSE, that there were plenty of good cameramen in Local 659. Grasshoff insisted that he wanted Lapenieks as director of photography. Aller at that point said, according to Grasshoff, "Well, I suggest you go out and make the picture nonunion. We don't make any deals here. You either sign an IA contract or you don't." At this point, Grasshoff testified Aller said, "Well, I'll tell you what, I'll make a deal with you, you forget about that fellow Lapenieks and I'll waive any standbys for you in Chicago and in New York." There was a discussion about Lapenieks' work and that apparently ended the conversa- tion. On cross-examination, Grasshoff testified: Q. But the question of following the seniority provisions of the contract had nothing to do with whether a man was in the Union or not, did it? That did not even come up in the conversation? TRIAL EXAMINER: Which question is he being asked? 1212 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD A. (By the Witness) Of course , it did . What else? The man is not in the Union , he is not an I . A. member, he is not a card member of the Local 659 , therefore, he could not work on my picture . That was the problem. Q. (By Mr . Mamet) Now, wait a minute . Did Aller tell you that? A. That's exactly what he told me. Q. Find it in your affidavit . Find it . Twelve pages. Find where you told this. A. I may not have got into all of that but that's exactly what he said to me. Q. It is a twelve-page affidavit . Let us see what was said . Find it. A. I just told you now , I can tell you that 's what he said. First Grasshoff did not claim that his affidavit contained any assertion that Lapenieks couldn't work because he wasn 't a union member . Also I note Grasshoff 's assertion about not being "in the union," or not a "member." It appears from the testimony that at times reference was made by various witnesses to the term "member" or "Union." Whether these terms were actually said or inferred is one of the questions . For instance, Alex Grasshoff, after first appearing to contend that Aller said Lapenieks was not a member of 659 , later admitted Aller had not referred to union or nonunion but this was Grasshoffs interpretation.36 Melvin Dellar at one point testified as set forth post he must hire a "member" of Respondent . However , Dellar subsequently admitted he drew the inference that "mem- bership" was required , stating he wasn't too familiar with the roster system . Dellar finally admitted more knowledge of the roster system but said "Roster meant the same to him as membership in the Union ," that it was "all one thing to him-that was his conclusion ." In these instances it is clear that witnesses were drawing inferences that were not stated or involved.37 Regardless of what Aller may or may not have said, assuming the roster system was lawful there would be nothing illegal in the Respondent 's objecting to Lapenieks' employment unless he had worked the time necessary to qualify him for the roster. Correspondence occurred involving Gordon Stulberg of Columbia Studios, the financial backer of Y-A Productions , with respect to the 36 Grasshoff's testimony reads: Q. Aller made no reference to the fact that any of the men that he was talking about were Union or non-Union, did he? A. No, not specifically. Q. In fact, the only time that Union came up was when you mentioned it and initiated it, was it not? A. No. Again, I repeat what he said about Lapenieks: He didn't want this man, this particular man, in the 1. A. Q. But already, you had been told by this man from Columbia that the question of the seniority provisions would not be waived. You understood that when you met with Aller. Is that correct? A. Yes, I understood that he didn't want this man in the Union. That is, in essence, what I understood. Q. Now, and you are trying to tell us that this provision here concerning the seniority provisions, when you were told that-Stulberg told you that Aller would not waive the seniority provisions of the contract, that you did not understand? A. I understood that to mean that he is not letting a non-Union cameraman work on this picture. Q. But there was nothing that was said that made you understand film and the use of Lapenieks. Between June 9 and 15, 1966, in an exchange of correspondence between Aller and Stulberg, Aller stated that Lapenieks did not meet the roster requirements and that Respondent would not agree to his employment.38 In an exchange of communications on August 1 and 5 between Grasshoff and Flaherty, Grasshoff indicated that Y-A would sign an IATSE Basic Agreement, but Flaherty stated that IATSE would not sign a collective-bargaining agreement with Y-A if Lapenieks was hired. Grasshoff testified that about August 139 in a conversation with Aller he agreed to use a cameraman other than Lapenieks and Aller gave him a list of cameramen including Richard Moore with experience in documentaries. Grasshoff decided to use Moore, who informed Grasshoff that he would not be available until August 18. Since production was scheduled to start August 8, Grasshoff tried to find another cameraman. He then contacted Aller and request- ed Lapenieks be permitted to work until Moore was available. Aller agreed but stipulated that Moore must replace Lapenieks immediately upon Moore becoming available and that Lapenieks not be given any photograph- ic screen credit.40 On August 22, the first day he was available, Moore replaced Lapenieks, but Lapenieks remained with the production. According to Grasshoff, there was an issue subsequently with respect to Grasshoff asking Moore to permit Lapen- ieks to handle the camera for a particular scene. Aller telephoned Grasshoff concerning the problem and Gras- shoff explaine,' ',e wanted to use Lapenieks on the camera. According tc Lsshoff's initial testimony, Aller said, "No you either stick with these people or forget it, we will all walk out." Subsequently, on cross-examination, Grasshoff said he didn't remember whether Aller said that. Grasshoff admitted saying, "I will drop the picture if he will not allow me to have a particular operator." And that Aller replied that "he did not care." According to Grasshoff, about half an hour later Aller called again and said he would make a deal that Lapenieks could operate the camera and Moore would stay on, but Grasshoff would have to agree that Lapenieks would not get any photographic credit. Pro- duction continued with Lapenieks as operator until it was completed on September 15, 1966. Thereafter, Lapenieks, according to Grasshoff, requested that. This was your own personal interpretation. Is that correct? A. That was my interpretation. [Emphasis supplied.] 37 In this connection Lapenieks said Aller told him since he was not on the industry roster he could not work. Lapenieks said the question of being in or out of the Union did not exactly enter the conversation. Lapenieks said he had not applied for placement on the roster because of "wrong information" that he had to be a member of the Local to get on the roster. Lapenieks said no union representative had ever told him he could not get on the roster unless he were a member. 38 "Your letter of June 8, 1966 was presented to the Executive Board. The finding was to the effect that counsel previously advised us and has repeatedly advised us that all employment of First Cameramen and/or Directors of Photography must be in conformity with the prior preference provisions of the contract. It is our opinion that since the proposed individual in no ways qualifies under the seniority provisions of the contract, it is impossible for us to entertain your request." in It would appear the time would be after that date in view of the dated communications between Grasshoff and Flaherty. 40 According to Lapenieks, reputation in the industry goes up or down according to one's screen credits. IATSE, LOCAL 659 that he recommend him for roster placement on his work for Y-A. Grasshoff said he refused, giving as the reason an agreement with Aller "not to sign anything that would enable him to get on the roster." Lapenieks testified that Grasshoff told him that due to a conversation with Aller he would not be given screen credit and he would not try to put Lapenieks on the roster or get him in the Union. However, Grasshoff subsequently denied that he and Aller had a conversation (or an agreement) in which Grasshoff agreed that he would not sign anything that would enable Lapenieks to get on the roster. Grasshoff said he didn't know the significance of his agreement not to give Lapenieks photographic credit. The issue with respect to roster credit, arose after the shooting was completed when Lapenieks requested Grasshoff to give him a letter recommending Lapenieks for roster status and setting forth he had been employed as a director of photography. Lapenieks evidently believed- when Grasshoff refused to sign the letter setting forth Lapenieks' experience for roster purposes that this was due to an understanding Grasshoff had reached with Aller.41 This belief apparently continued until the hearing when Grasshoff testified. Although Grasshoff at first said that he was unfamiliar with the seniority provisions when he talked with Aller, he admitted on cross-examination that in an affidavit he gave the Board he said, "On June 8, 1966 I told Stulberg of my conversation with Aller. He wrote Aller a letter concerning our using Lapenieks. Aller's reply was that the Union would not make any exception to the seniority provision of the contract." Grasshoff further admitted that Stulberg told him Aller's reply was that the Union would not make any exception to the seniority provision of the contract. Grasshoff also testified that Aller had told him from the beginning that he would not make any deviation in the contract. According to Grasshoff, Aller also said: THE WITNESS: He said that he did not want this man, Vilis Lapenieks, in the I.A., did not want him on this picture. He said, "He is a troublemaker," and he says, "and besides, between you and me, his work is very amateurish and you don't need him. We have qualified professional people." As pointed out, supra, at one point Grasshoff appeared to contend that Aller had mentioned that Lapenieks was not a card member of Local 659. This was not in his affidavit and, after examining it, Grasshoff admitted that Aller made no reference to the fact that any of the men Aller was talking about were union or nonunion and that this was Grasshoff's own interpretation as set forth above. Gras- shoff further stated that Aller did not even tell him that Moore was a member of the Union. The General Counsel is contending that Moore was not on the "roster" and that therefore, insistence on hiring Moore and not hiring Lapenieks was improper and not in accord with the contract. Moore was not on the physical roster, but there appears to be no question that he had all of the qualifications for the roster and was so listed by the 41 Lapenieks was later placed in group I on the roster based on his having had more than 130 days with Wolper Productions, which was not a signatory at the time Lapenieks acquired his qualifying experience but later became a signatory. 1213 Union. In fact, Moore had worked under the Union's jurisdiction before 1954 and been a member of the Union since June 1 , 1955. Since membership was not achieved until completion of requirements for roster status were fulfilled , Moore was eligible for employment not because he was a member , but on the basis of experience that would qualify him for the roster. Under these circum- stances, I am unable to see where there was any violation with respect to the employment of Lapenieks, if the roster system was valid, which I have so found. In addition, as pointed out, Lapenieks was a supervisor . I accordingly find that the allegations of the complaint relating to Lapenieks have not been proven. Joel Colman's experience dates from 1954 and during the first 7 months of 1966 he worked in excess of 30 days for Ann Lee Lacy Associates, but none of his employment was with signatories. Colman said that about the end of June or July of 1966 Melvin Dellar of MPO-TV of California asked him about taking a staff position with MPO as a cameraman. According to Colman, he said yes and after Dellar contacted New York, they agreed on a figure of $40,000. Dellar said he would be given a 3-year contract but would have to work exclusively for MPO. The details of this so-called arrangement are not being spelled out herein. There is a great deal of conflict as to what the terms were but I do not consider them material to any necessary resolution herein.42 Dellar testified without contradiction that he talked to IATSE Business Representative Zeal Fairbanks,43 relative to using Colman who was a member of NABET, another organization of cameramen, with an IATSE crew. Dellar testified Fairbanks said it would be all right with him, but Dellar would have to check with Aller. According to Dellar, Aller said that under no condition could Colman work with an IATSE crew, Dellar offered to hire a member of Respondent for a standby for an assignment scheduled August 4 or 5. Dellar said that Aller refused and said that if MPO used Colman, Aller would pull his people and the balance of the IATSE people off the stage. According to Dellar, Aller further said that Dellar should use a member of Respondent for the August 4 and 5 shootings and Dellar did so. Dellar said he continued to seek Respondent's agreement to the hiring of Colman and assured Colman if the Union withdrew its objections he wanted to hire him. The General Counsel argues that it is clear that MPO would have hired Colman as director of photography except for Respondent's threat to pull its members off the job and that Dellar's undenied testimony should be credited. Although the precise terms of Dellar's "agree- ment" with Colman for work are in controversy, it does appear that he wanted to hire Colman's services and that the "renumeration" would be predicated on a rate of $40,000 for a year's work. While Dellar testified that Aller told him if he hired Colman Aller would pull IATSE members off the job and that he must hire a member of Respondent, the fact is (as set forth supra and post) that subsequently Dellar admitted that he had inferred that the 42 They would bear on the issue of independent contractor and also as to backpay if such were to arise. 43 Fairbanks is deceased. 1214 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD person hired would have to be a union member, but that Alter had not so stated Dellar, supra, asserted he was not familiar with the roster system and was inferring certain things. Although Dellar at one point claimed he knew absolutely nothing about the roster provisions of the contract, he subsequently admitted that in an affidavit given to the Regional Office of the Board on February 10, 1967, he stated: In August 1966 I tried to get a waiver from Local 659 so we could hire Joel Colman. If we didn't get a waiver to employ Colman we would have been in violation of the agreement if there were other men on the industry experience roster available. From the foregoing it is clear that he did know about the roster. Dellar further testified he stated in another affidavit dated December 9, 1966, "when Groups I, II and III are exhausted, Local 659 will, upon request, refer someone to us who is not on the roster apparently from a list of such people that the Union must maintain." After going over his affidavit, Dellar admitted that as far as he used terminolo- gy, "Roster meant the same to him as membership in the Union." That it was "all one thing." Dellar then added that no one had told him such, but it was his own conclusion. Dellar finally admitted that he was no longer certain that Aller had stated that he could not use Colman because Colman was not in the Union, that he didn't remember Aller stating that he could not use Colman, but that Aller could have said Colman was ineligible or not on the roster. Dellar also admitted receiving from Jerome Reiner, an attorney, a letter dated September 15, 1966, pointing out specifically the seniority provisions in the roster, the availability status of the persons in the various groups, and the fact that any deviation from the roster system would constitute a violation of the agreement. A great deal of testimony is in the record as to the contract and as to Dellar's relationship with Colman, his effort to cooperate with him, and his desire to use him. It is sufficient to say that although Dellar's testimony as to conversations with Aller may not have been contradicted for the reason of Aller's unavailability that his ultimate examination as set forth above reflected that Dellar had testified as to what he assumed, that he admitted that the term "member" was not used and he could not recall precisely what term was used. Dellar also contradicted himself as to his statement that he did not realize there was a roster because it is clear that he did. Predicated on the foregoing, it appears evident that what Aller was in essence stating to Dellar was that Colman could not be used because of the roster system and he was not therefore qualified. Whether or not Aller threatened to pull people off or not in this instance I believe is immaterial, because the question is whether or not the Union was seeking to enforce the roster provisions of the contract and if it was so doing the Union would be entitled to oppose Colman's employment. My conclusion is that in essence such was the Union's position predicated upon the roster system. If the system is valid, the Union's objection to Colman was valid. I have found the system to be valid and therefore the objection it had to Colman was not illegal 44 Furthermore, as found above, Colman in my opinion was a supervisor. Accordingly, I find that the allegations of the complaint relative to Colman have not been established. 1. Contentions as to Illegality of Actions Involving Lapenieks and Colman as Supervisors if the Roster System as Interpreted and Applied were Illegal The General Counsel contends that under certain Board cases that supervisors are equally protected even though not specifically so under the Act because of the impact on rank-and-file employees. Assuming arguendo that the roster system as applied and interpreted were invalid, the General Counsel argues that even if they were supervisors the position taken against Colman and Lapenieks was improper. The General Counsel says that this action was brought to the attention of the members because a number of the members who were admittedly employees were on the Executive Board when the cases involving Lapenieks and Colman were discussed, and that the charges were also read to members at regular meetings. General Counsel also contends that the charges relating to Lapenieks and Colman were set forth in articles in "Daily Variety," a publication distributed principally in the motion picture industry in Los Angeles County. It was stipulated that in the 12 months preceding September 29, 1970, the average paid circulation of "Daily Variety" was 13,986 of which 9,351 copies were mailed and 4,635 were delivered to customers or dealers or news vendors in some manner other than by mail. It was further stipulated that on February 4, 1971, 2,916 copies were mailed to subscribers in the County of Los Angeles, (outside the city), 2,730 were mailed to subscribers in the City of Los Angeles, and 1,996 were mailed to subscribers outside of the County of Los Angeles for a total of 7,642-so that approximately two-thirds are mailed in Los Angeles County and one-third mailed outside Los Angeles County. It was further stipulated that there was no less than 80 percent of the above circulation in 1967, 1968, 1969, and 1970.45 Assuming these in fact were read by employees, which is a matter of inference, there would still be the question of how did such coerce employee under the Act? First, it would appear that there would have to be found as a necessary inference, or assumption that the same treatment would apply to rank-and-file employees as to supervisors. Second, it would appear that the truth or falsity of the published allegations would be a material element or consideration. The publication of allegations does not establish the truth of facts. Further, the publica- tion would seem to have an equally coercive impact whether true or not. Obviously the mere filing of charges and the publication thereof could not make the Union guilty of violating the Act. The same is true as to the charges being read to members. Additionally, charges 44 Subsequently, Colman was employed by Reagan Associates , evidently 45 The parties could not agree on whether or not the bulk of the delivered owned by MPO Videotronics. Reagan had a contract with IATSE and papers were delivered in the Hollywood area, although counsel for Colman did acquire the necessary time to be placed on and was placed on Respondent conceded they "all go to Los Angeles County." the physical roster and became a member of Respondent. IATSE, LOCAL 659 relating to supervisors do not necessarily affect rank-and- file employees. The General Counsel predicates her argument essentially on two Board decisions. Principally the argument appears to be there is one roster system and that the assumption can be made that its application to supervisors would necessarily have impact on rank-and-file employees. The cases cited by the General Counsel are A. O. Smith Corporation, Granite City Plant, 132 NLRB 339 and 393- 394 and Reinforced Steel Workers Local 426 (K. G. Marx, Inc.), 164 NLRB 903, which will be analyzed and considered post. First, the initial'cases finding discriminatory action by an employer with respect to supervisors were predicated upon the relationship of supervisors to rank-and-file employees. Where a supervisor is disciplined for refusing to commit unfair labor practices or take action that would improperly affect the rights of or coerce employees under the Act or where action is taken against a supervisor for acting as a buffer for employees against improper conduct under the Act, a violation may be found. See for instance Vail Mfg., 158 F.2d 664 (C.A. 7), where the supervisor refused to be classified as an operator (to assist in defeating organiza- tion), or Inter-City Advertising, 89 NLRB 1103, where supervisors refused to aid in a campaign against the Union. In the latter case, the Board said- As the Trial Examiner found, the reason for Peeler's discharge was his failure to report to the Respondent the union activities of the nonsupervisory employees under his direction. We believe it reasonable to infer that the Respondent's reason for requiring such reports was to assist it in its campaign against the Union. As we held, with judicial approval, in the Vail case, the discharge of supervisors for refusing to aid in such a campaign unlawfully interferes with, restrains, and coerces the nonsupervisory employees involved. Al- though the Vail case was decided before the amend- ment of the Act, in our opinion the amendments have made no change in the law in this respect. [Footnotes omitted.] Similarly as to threats or violence to supervisors in presence of employees, in Smith Cabinet, 81 NLRB 886 at 888, the Board said: The Respondents further argue that the Board is not warranted in finding that the acts directed against the Company's supervisors violated Section 8(b)(1)(A) because that Section protects "employees" only. How- ever, we note with respect to the incidents involving Superintendent Simpson and Foreman McKinney, adverted to above, that non-striking employees witnessed them, or were in the immediate vicinity at the time of their occurrence. In these circumstances, we find, like the Trial Examiner, that these employees might have reasonably regarded these incidents as a reliable indica- tion of what would befall them if they sought to work during the strike The coercive effect of such conduct on "employees" within the meaning of the Act is therefore clear. And inasmuch as the illegality of coercive activity directed against supervisors is found to depend upon its commission in the presence of non-striking employees or under such circumstances as to insure that 1215 these employees would hear of it, we shall reject the Trial Examiner 's findings with respect to the threats to company officials which were not made in such a context. Accordingly , we do not find, as did the Trial Examiner, that Section 8(b)(l)(A) was violated by Burger's warnings to the Company 's president and vice presi- dent that there would be "trouble" if they 'attempted to bring cars into the plant , and that the windshields of such cars would be smashed . [ Footnotes omitted.] [Emphasis supplied.] See also N. L. R. B. v. International Woodworkers AFL-CIO (W. T. Smith Lumber Co), 243 F.2d 745 (C.A. 5). A. O. Smith and Company, cited by the General Counsel , involves an action against a supervisor who was a leader in a dissident movement and had sought to protect employees and it was evident employees were aware of the situation. The Trial Examiner stated in part : ( 132 NLRB 393-394) The foregoing findings so clearly show that Ran- dolph was demoted by the Company because it was so willed by Herzing , and hence the Boilmakers, that elaborate discussion is needless . The proof is over- whelming that Herzing brooked no interference with his autocratic reign over the Company's employees, and that he swiftly and unremittingly retaliated with physical assault, threats of economic reprisal, and pressures on the Company against any person, employee, or management representative who deigned to interfere with him . Herzing had marked Randolph for extinction because he regarded him as a leader in the Carpenters ' movement and in the dissident group He resented Randolph 's protection of employees from molestation by himself and his lieuten- ant, Rocky Mayes, and had openly expressed his intention to get him out of the plant . As will be shown, Randolph 's demotion in November was a first step leading ultimately to his layoff less than 2 months later. As for the Company's motives for demoting Randolph, it is not necessary to go beyond consideration of Harp's admission in his remarks explaining the demotion to Randolph as a surrender by the Company to pressure from the Boilmakers . This was but another example of the Company's abject capitulation to Herzing 's demands at the expense of employee rights, all in the belief that by bolstering Herzing 's power in the Boilmakers the Company would gain stability in its plant , and that failure to placate Herzing by appeasing his demands for reprisal against his opponents would lead to resumption of former disorders. In the prevailing atmosphere of the Company 's plant it was inevitable that the employees should regard Randolph 's demotion as symbolic of what would happen to him if they, in the exercise of their statutory rights, were to oppose Herzing and his ruling group . If Herzing was powerful enough to require the Company to punish a foreman who dared stand up to him, what chance would a plain rank-and- file employee have in a contest with him? The answer to employees who realized the obvious meaning of Randolph 's demotion was that they had no chance. The clear message to them was that protection of their jobs required abandonment of all union activities which would incur Herzing's displeasure. The threat to their job security if they opposed him as demonstrated by his 1216 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD wield of power over the Company to cause Randolph's demotion, was as plain as if the employees were told directly by Herzing that they like Randolph would be similarly punished for resisting him. Union threats to the job security of employees, whether by conduct or words spoken directly to them, which are reasonably calculated to coerce employees in the exercise of their rights guaranteed by Section 7 of the Act to continue to abandon their allegiance to the Union, are violative of Section 8(b)(1)(A) of the Act. [Footnote omitted.] [Emphasis supplied.] The foregoing illustrates a case of union pressure against and demotion of a foreman for his part in a dissident movement and for his protecting employees against union pressure which was found to be obvious to employees by the Trial Examiner. The Reinforced Steel Workers, supra, in my judgment is not precedent since the Trial Examiner's decision was adopted by the Board because no exceptions were filed. In addition, the factual situation is not comparable to that herein. The Trial Examiner stated: The employees, both those who were and those who were not members of Local 426, were thus given ample evidence that Respondent's power was such that they could cause a reluctant employer to demote even a supervisor. If the Union was both willing and able to force Marks, who had no contract with Local 426, to hire only members as supervisors, the employees could have little doubt that the Union could and probably would make sure that union membership or a union dobie or permit was a condition precedent to obtaining and retaining a job as a rank-and-file employee. Furthermore, it is abundantly clear that Respon- dents first sought to force Marks to get rid of Smith by refusing to allow members of Local 426 to work on the project under Smith and it was only when this tactic failed that Respondents made their direct demands which they enforced by means of a picket line which closed down the entire project. In other words, Respondents' campaign against Smith included direct pressure upon employees, i.e. those members of Local 426 who were prohibited from working for Smith and who clearly were unwilling to work under Smith lest Respondents deprive them, in turn, of jobs on other projects either by seeing to it that they were not hired by union foremen or by refusing to refer them to jobs when employers asked for men. Thus, when viewed as a whole, Respondents' conduct put employees on notice that Local 426 and Regis O'Brien were determined to remove from the job every man, be he a supervisor or a rank-and-file employee, who was not a member of Local 426 or did not have a dobie or a permit issued by Respondents. To state it another way, Respondents' demands with respect to Smith and with respect to the laborers were so interrelated that the employees would be unable to distinguish between them and would view them as a single act the purpose of which was to reserve all rested jobs for union members or for men who had the approval of the Union and/or Business Agent O'Brien . Indeed, Respondents' conduct made it clear to members of Local 426 that if they wanted to be hired as foremen, they had to be members of Local 426 or acceptable to Business Agent O'Brien while employees and that Local 426 and Regis O'Brien reward rank- and-file employees who are,"good" union members by having them appointed foremen. [Emphasis supplied.] It is evident that the Trial Examiner found the facts to show an interrelationship of pressures on a foreman and employees and that employees were cognizant thereof. Whether or not the Trial Examiner 's ultimate conclusion is accepted, the case is clearly distinguishable. It is clear that , whether or not the circulation of Variety and the reading of charges should or can properly be accorded any significance, the impact on other employees and the context situations in the cases cited above were manifestly different from that herein. The witnessing or presence in the immediate vicinity of physical acts of violence against employees in the Smith case is not this case . Neither is it comparable to the involvement, interrelationship , and enmeshing of pressures and interests evidently known to all in the A O. Smith Corporation and the Reinforced Steelworkers Local cases. However, with respect to presumptions or conclusions as to coercion or violation which may be drawn from situations , the Supreme Court has passed on such in hiring situations in a number of cases. In the Local 357 Teamsters case, supra, 365 U.S. 667, the Court said there could be no per se presumption of coercion or violation from a hiring hall and that the Board could not adopt specific standards. A second Supreme Court case is N L.R.B. v. News Syndicate, 365 U.S. 695. The issue therein was whether under a contract which required that foremen be union members and where the foremen were to do all the hiring, these provisions would necessarily amount to a violation of the Act. The Supreme Court at page 699 stated: We also believe the Court of Appeals was right in concluding that the contract on its face is not unlawful even though the foremen-who are union members --lo the hiring. In the first place, the contract (unlike the General Laws) does not require journeymen and apprentices to be union members. In the second place, the provisions of the contract which we have set forth make the foremen "solely the employers' agents," as the Court of Appeals concluded. 279 F.2d at 330. Finally as we said in Teamsters Local 357 v. Labor Board, decided this day, ante, p. 667, we will not assume that unions and employers will violate the federal law , favoring discrimination in favor of union members against the clear command of this Act of Congress. As stated by the Court of Appeals. "In the absence of provisions calling explicitly for illegal conduct , the contract cannot be held illegal because it failed affirmatively to disclaim all illegal objectives." 279 F.2d at 330. [Footnote omitted.] It would appear, if under the circumstances in the News Syndicate case there is no per se coercion of the persons employed either with respect to union membership or union representation, that the fact of discrimination in hiring of supervisors , even assuming such were brought to the attention of employees, would not per se result in a finding of coercion of employees. In the News Syndicate case, it appears evident that the employees would know that the foremen were union members and also that they did the IATSE, LOCAL 659 1217 hiring since they in fact hired them. Yet no finding of coercion therefrom could be made . Accordingly, I con- clude and find that the action directed toward Colman and Lapenieks as supervisors would not constitute a violation under the circumstances , even if the roster system (as interpreted and applied) were Illegal 46 The fact that there may be an arguable coercive effect on employees is obviously not sufficient under the News Syndicate decision. I accordingly find no violation of the Act as to Lapenieks or Colman under any allegation of the complaint herein. The Dambacher Allegations This brings us to the Dambacher allegations which were referred to in detail , supra. These , under the pleadings, were not set forth as evidence of a separate violation but as evidence of motivation . The complaint alleged that "On or about June 14 , 1966 Respondent through Nave caused or attempted to cause Wilding to discharge Emmett N. Dambacher, Jr., because he was not a member of Respondent ." The time of the alleged incident is clearly not within the 10(b) period for the purpose of any asserted violation but may be considered as "background" in aid of understanding and possibly as bearing on motivation. However, as set forth supra in footnote 31, the evidence in support of General Counsel 's contention that Respondent caused Dambacher to be terminated by Wilding , Inc., is predicated on hearsay testimony that Dambacher was told by Jim Sommers , production manager (of Wilding), that he was being let go because Doyle Nave had told Sommers he could not take Dambacher on location and he would have to be replaced . According to Dambacher , Nave gave Sommers a list of people including Serge Haignere and Ron McMannus and Haignere replaced him . First, I will not make any finding of fact based on Sommer 's asserted statement to Dambacher as to what Nave allegedly told Sommers. Second , such does not appear to relate to union "membership ." Further, as previously set forth , it appeared from the Union 's record and information that both McMannus and Haignere at the time , although not on the physical roster, had met the requirements for roster status while Dambacher had not . Accordingly , I find and conclude that the aforesaid allegation as to Dambacher has not been established. Conclusions I have previously found and concluded that the roster system as set forth in the contract and as interpreted and applied insofar as the Respondent is concerned was not illegal and that it was not illegally applied to Colman, Lapenieks , or Dambacher , even assuming Colman and Lapenieks were employees . Further , I have found that Lapenieks and Colman were supervisors although I reserve any finding as to whether or not Colman was an independent contractor . As supervisors I have concluded and found that even if the roster system were illegal or illegally applied that any action taken toward Lapenieks and Colman did not constitute a violation of the Act. I have also concluded and found that the Tn -City Agree- ment , insofar as it was involved and has been applied, was neither illegal nor illegally applied . Finally, I conclude and find that the General Counsel has not proven under the complaint herein any acts in violation of the Act. Accordingly, I shall recommend that the complaint herein be dismissed in its entirety. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and upon the entire record in this proceeding , I make the following conclusions of law: 1. The employers referred to herein are employers engaged in and affecting commerce within the meaning of the Act. 2. The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of the Act. 3. Respondent Union has not engaged in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (b)(1)(A) of the Act as alleged. [Recommended Order omitted from publication.] 46 In view of this conclusion , it is unnecessary to consider further the extent of knowledge that could be inferred from distribution of "Daily Variety" nor the effect of the truth or nontruth of the matters published nor whether such could in any case constitute a predicate for finding a violation Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation