New England Carpenters Health Benefits Fund et al v. First Databank, Inc., et alResponseD. Mass.December 6, 2007 001821-13 212333 V1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS NEW ENGLAND CARPENTERS HEALTH BENEFITS FUND, PIRELLI ARMSTRONG RETIREE MEDICAL BENEFITS TRUST; TEAMSTERS HEALTH & WELFARE FUND OF PHILADELPHIA AND VICINITY; PHILADELPHIA FEDERATION OF TEACHERS HEALTH AND WELFARE FUND; DISTRICT COUNCIL 37, AFSCME - HEALTH & SECURITY PLAN; JUNE SWAN; BERNARD GORTER, SHELLY CAMPBELL and CONSTANCE JORDAN Plaintiffs, v. FIRST DATABANK, INC., a Missouri corporation; and McKESSON CORPORATION, a Delaware corporation, Defendants. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) C.A. No. 1:05-CV-11148-PBS [Leave to File Granted on December 6, 2007] CLASS PLAINTIFFS’ REPLY TO McKESSON’S RESPONSE TO THE COURT’S INQUIRIES AT THE NOVEMBER 13, 2007 HEARING ON CLASS CERTIFICATION ISSUES Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 1 of 16 001821-13 212333 V1 TABLE OF CONTENTS I. NEW EVIDENCE FROM EXPRESS SCRIPTS SHOWS THAT PBMS SEEK TO PROTECT THEIR PROFITS WHEN AWPS CHANGE AND UNDERSCORES WHY PBMS DID NOT RECOUP FOR TPPS THE SCHEME’S EFFECTS ........................................................................................................1 II. THE IMS DATA IS A REASONABLE PROXY FOR TPP PAYMENTS........................3 A. A General Correlation Exists Between The IMS Data And The Amounts That TPPs Pay For Drugs ........................................................................................3 B. McKesson’s Remaining Arguments Again Miss The Mark....................................4 1. The inclusion of Medicaid and U&C payments in the IMS data does not invalidate the aggregate damages model. ....................................................4 2. Willig’s claims data analysis confirms that TPP payments correlate with the IMS transaction data. .............................................................................5 3. Dr. Hartman and other industry experts, including Dr. McDonough, agree that PBMs earn spreads; but this does not vitiate correlation......................6 4. Variations in spreads, if any, that are not picked up by the aggregate damages calculation will be adjusted for at the allocation phase. ...............8 C. The Model Is A Reasonable Estimate Of Aggregate Damages...............................8 III. MCKESSON’S ALTERNATIVE “GAME PLAN” SHOULD BE AMENDED .............10 Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 2 of 16 - 1 - 001821-13 212333 V1 I. NEW EVIDENCE FROM EXPRESS SCRIPTS SHOWS THAT PBMS SEEK TO PROTECT THEIR PROFITS WHEN AWPS CHANGE AND UNDERSCORES WHY PBMS DID NOT RECOUP FOR TPPS THE SCHEME’S EFFECTS Plaintiffs previously drew the Court’s attention to the following excerpt from ESI’s 2006 Annual report, which demonstrates that, absent any mitigating action by ESI, its margins would decrease as a result of the First Databank settlement: In the absence of any mitigating action on our part, the proposed reduction in FDB’s AWP would have a material adverse effect on the margin we earn on home delivery transactions. It may also create disruption in our retail networks due to the adverse impact on AWP-based retail pharmacy pricing. However, most of our contracts with clients and retail pharmacies contain terms we believe will enable us to mitigate the adverse effect of this proposed reduction in FDB’s reported AWP.[1] Plaintiffs have newly-obtained evidence received today that ESI is now following through with an effort “to mitigate the adverse effect of this proposed reduction in FDB’s reported AWP” as ESI promised its shareholders that it would do. Attached to the accompanying Supplemental Declaration of Steve Berman are letters sent by Express Scripts, Inc. (“ESI”) to a plan sponsor.2 The letters advise that ESI will seek to adjust the terms of its contracts with TPPs in order to preserve ESI’s profits in the face of the changes flowing from the First Databank settlement: [O]ur agreement incorporates the concept that if there is change caused by a law or court that materially changes a term or condition of the agreement, we have the right to discuss with you a modification in order to bring the contract back into its intended scope. This letter is intended to confirm our agreement on the steps necessary to maintain pricing stability as intended and not to advantage either party to the detriment of the other. 1 See Class Plaintiffs’ illustratives for the November 13, 2007 Hearing at Slide 27. 2 These particular letters were provided to Plaintiffs’ counsel by a plan sponsor that does business with ESI. Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 3 of 16 - 2 - 001821-13 212333 V1 More specifically, effective as of October 8, 2007 if ESI (i) maintains AWP as the pricing index with an appropriate adjustment in the event the AWP methodology and/or its calculation is changed, whether by the existing or alternative sources; and/or (iii) transitions the pricing index from AWP to another index or benchmark (e.g., to Wholesale Acquisition Cost), Participating Pharmacy, CuraScript and Mail Service Pharmacy rates, rebates and guarantees, as applicable, will be modified as reasonably and equitably necessary to maintain each parties’ relative economics before such change is effective.[3] Should ESI undertake any of the above, any changes would have the effect of bringing the parties back to the intended economic position (“price neutrality”) under the Agreement such as not to advantage either party to the detriment of the other. [Emphasis in original.] A critical component of McKesson’s defense in this case has been its and Willig’s assertion that PBMs discovered the Scheme, revealed it to thousands of TPP clients, and instigated a wave of recoupment efforts such that the circumstances of each TPP-PBM contract must be reviewed to account for this recoupment. McKesson has failed to present any evidence that this wave of recoupment occurred, and the foregoing demonstrates additional evidence as to why: ESI, like other PBMs, is motivated to protect its own profits when any changes to the AWP pricing benchmark occur.4 This newly obtained evidence also serves as an example of what ESI could have done, but did not do, when the select AWP increases occurred as a result of the Scheme. ESI could have retained Milliman to conduct a pricing review and inform TPPs that they would pay increased prices as a result of the Scheme’s price bump and that, consequently, ESI would 3 An earlier letter from ESI included an additional factor that would impel ESI to change the contract, to wit, if ESI “maintains AWP as the pricing index with an appropriate adjustment as described below, in the event the AWP methodology and/or its calculation is changed, whether by the existing or alternative sources[.]” See the June 22, 2007 letter. 4 The Court may also recall the ESI internal memorandum acknowledging that the price bump resulting from the Scheme increased ESI’s margins. See Ex. 5 to the Declaration of Steve W. Berman in Support of Class Plaintiffs’ Reply to McKesson’s Opposition to Aggregate Damages for the TPP Class and McKesson’s Motion to Decertify the Consumer Class (Dkt. No. 345). Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 4 of 16 - 3 - 001821-13 212333 V1 “bring[] the parties back to the intended economic position (“price neutrality”) under the Agreement such as not to advantage either party to the detriment of the other.” But ESI did not take such action because it benefited from the Scheme, and that fact that it is doing so now shows on a class-wide basis that there was no shift in the TPP-PBM relationship during the class period that would render unreliable the use of IMS retail price data as a proxy for prices paid by TPPs. II. THE IMS DATA IS A REASONABLE PROXY FOR TPP PAYMENTS A. A General Correlation Exists Between The IMS Data And The Amounts That TPPs Pay For Drugs At the November 13, 2007, hearing, the Court requested additional submissions on, among other things, the issue of whether the IMS data underpinning Dr. Hartman’s damages model is correlated to the prices paid by TPPs for drugs. Hearing Trans. at 26. Highlighting the appropriate standard that Plaintiffs need only “produce some evidence” supporting certification, id. at 27, the Court properly recognized that Dr. Hartman’s “analysis made sense. I mean, this is a critical link [referring to correlation], but if he’s right, he shows a certifiable class.” Id. at 30; see also id. at 58 (“And if there’s evidence to support the assumption [of correlation], it’s likely that the class will be able to be certified.”). Dr. Hartman is “right.” In their November 28th post-hearing submission, Plaintiffs once again demonstrated that the TPP data is a reasonable proxy for TPP payments – that is, that the data is correlated to the prices that TPPs pay for drugs. Plaintiffs thus answered the Court’s correlation question directly, clearly and in the affirmative. In contrast, McKesson’s post-hearing submission dissembles, seeking to shift the focus of the debate from this general correlation and place it instead on a very narrow issue: whether there is a perfect, 100% “constant relationship” between what the PBMs pay retailers and what Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 5 of 16 - 4 - 001821-13 212333 V1 the TPPs pay the PBMs. McKesson Br. at 2-10. In other words, instead of focusing on whether the IMS data is generally correlated to TPP payments – which is the overriding issue that the Court asked be addressed – McKesson seeks to alter the terms of the debate by seeking to prove something that is uncontested.5 But Dr. Hartman and Plaintiffs never claimed that a perfect correlation existed, and Dr. Hartman did not opine that a perfect correlation exists in every TPP- PBM relationship. Rather, Dr. Hartman concludes that the IMS data, in the aggregate, is generally correlated to TPP payments. Of course, there can be variations between actual payments and what appears in the IMS database for a particular TPP. However, based on Dr. Hartman’s extensive experience in this arena, and the fact that other experts rely on IMS data for these very purposes in litigation, the relationship in the aggregate between what a TPP pays a PBM for a brand-name drug and what the PBM pays the retailer for that brand name drug is consistent. McKesson’s brief is simply an attempt to divert the Court from determining the real issue relating to aggregate damages, to wit, whether the IMS data generally correlates to the prices paid by TPPs for drugs. B. McKesson’s Remaining Arguments Again Miss The Mark 1. The inclusion of Medicaid and U&C payments in the IMS data does not invalidate the aggregate damages model McKesson decided to address issues beyond the scope of the Court’s question by reasserting that the Medicaid and U&C payments included in the IMS transaction data dilute the data set and contribute to an overstatement of aggregate damages. McKesson Br. at 10. Dr. Hartman has already called the Court’s attention to this fact: 5 This is thus the latest iteration of the “McKesson Shift,” a defense strategy in which McKesson and Willig throw out hypothetical roadblocks and then shift to a new one each time an old tactic proves incorrect. Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 6 of 16 - 5 - 001821-13 212333 V1 Since the IMS NPA data include all reimbursements by TPPs (some portion of which is paid by PBMs), cash payors and Medicaid, I expect that the average reimbursement rate in the IMS will be greater than the average TPP claims amount, since TPPs generally will be better able to negotiate discounts than cash payors. This is to be expected with an average measure over all payors. Nov. 28 Hartman Decl. at ¶ 14 (Dkt. No. 378). But McKesson fails to tell the Court that Dr. Hartman has already minimized the impact of Medicaid and U&C payments by subtracting out the aggregate damages attributable to reimbursement on behalf of Medicaid and all other governmental beneficiaries using data published by Novartis. Nov. 28 Hartman Decl. at ¶ 6 (Dkt. No. 378). Moreover, Dr. Hartman recently learned that IMS can produce a special data run that would provide the transaction data by each payor group (TPP, Medicaid and cash payors) beginning with the year 2001. Despite the substantial expense associated with obtaining data broken out in this manner, Dr. Hartman can and will obtain the data to enhance the accuracy of the aggregate damages model. Id. at ¶ 3 n.8, ¶ 22. Consequently, although the dilution is minimal in the current calculations, dilution resulting from the presence of Medicaid and cash payor transactions in the data pool will be eliminated entirely after Dr. Hartman obtains the segregated data and updates the damages calculations. 2. Willig’s claims data analysis confirms that TPP payments correlate with the IMS transaction data Dr. Willig presents a brief analysis of claims data for GE and CIGNA and concludes that payments made by these TPPs “differ materially” from what IMS reports and that, therefore, the IMS data is not reliable and overstates damages. McKesson Br. at 5-6. But it is Willig who overstates his case. Although the GE and CIGNA claims data do not correlate perfectly with the IMS transaction data, Dr. Hartman never claimed it did. Rather, Dr. Hartman explained that the Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 7 of 16 - 6 - 001821-13 212333 V1 correlation was consistent over time and similar across all drugs. More specifically, the average amount paid by CIGNA in its claims for all drugs during the time period analyzed was 88%-92% of the average IMS reimbursement amount. Nov. 28 Hartman Decl. at ¶ 15(a) (Dkt. No. 378). Tellingly, Willig never disputes these figures. Dr. Hartman’s “spot analysis” of GE and CIGNA claims data reveals a substantial correlation with IMS and hardly constitutes a material difference vitiating application of the model. And that correlation will only improve when Dr. Hartman updates the model to eliminate any dilution caused by the presence of government and cash payor transactions in the IMS data. 3. Dr. Hartman and other industry experts, including Dr. McDonough, agree that PBMs earn spreads; but this does not vitiate correlation After years of litigation, McKesson suddenly brings forward two new witnesses that have purportedly “new” evidence that spreads can be earned by PBMs. See McKesson Br. at 7-9 (citing new declarations submitted by James Smith and Arthur Shinn). This is hardly revelatory and not new; of course PBMs can earn a spread on the difference between what they pay pharmacies and what they receive from TPPs. Dr. Hartman already explained this to the Court in showing how PBMs earn significant revenues based on such a spread. See, e.g., Oct. 29, 2007 Hartman Decl., Attach. E (Dkt. No. 376) (explaining that PBMs earn a spread and showing how an increase in AWP has the immediate effect of increasing the spread that the PBM earns); id. at n.1 (“The PBM pockets the difference between what it receives from its client and what it pays the pharmacy . . . .”) (quoting from this Court’s class certification ruling in AWP); see also Raymond Hartman Dep. 156-57 (explaining differences between what TPPs pay PBMs and what PBMs pay retailers).6 6 Referencing these same pages of Hartman testimony, McKesson claims that Hartman disavowed that there was any correlation between discounts in the contracts between the PBMs and the retailers and discounts in the contracts between TPPs and PBMs. McKesson Br. at 3. But in that slice of testimony, Dr. Hartman was merely Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 8 of 16 - 7 - 001821-13 212333 V1 However, these spreads, which are minimal or sometimes non-existent for brand-name drugs, do not impeach the reliability of the IMS data for purposes of showing TPP payments in cases where a differential exists between what the TPP pays the PBM and what the PBM pays the pharmacy. As Dr. Hartman explains, in this context an immediate impact of the Scheme would be to increase PBM margins if, as McKesson claims, the PBMs “squeezed” the retailers in response. Oct. 29, 2007 Hartman Decl., Attach. E at 2 (Dkt. No. 346). Although there is no evidence supporting McKesson’s “squeeze” theory, if true this would mean that the IMS data would actually understate damages to the TPPs unless there was TPP push back specific to the Scheme. And any TPP claw-backs would shrink the margin, thereby narrowing any gap between the TPP payment to the PBM and the PBM payment to the retailer. Id. Further still, there will be many TPP-PBM relationships in which, for competitive reasons, the PBM will not earn a margin on brand-name drugs sold through a retail pharmacy.7 For these encounters, as well as for those in which the TPP does not use a PBM, the IMS data reflects direct TPP payments to retailers. referring to the fact that a statistician would not be able to calculate a correlation coefficient for the relationship. Such an observation is distinct from opining, as Dr. Hartman has done, that the relationship between the two generally correlates. In other words, it makes little sense to discuss calculating correlation coefficients over time in contract discount terms for a TPP and its PBM, but it does make sense to discuss correlation of claim amounts paid by a TPP and in turn its PBM. The claims data for GE and CIGNA show a high correlation with the IMS data. This reinforces Dr. Hartman’s conclusion that, as AWP increases, the amounts paid by all PBMs, all cash payors and the TPPs paying the PBMs are highly correlated. 7 For instance, Greg Madsen of PBM Caremark confirmed that, “in some cases” Caremark charges its clients the same price that it pays retailers. See Schechter Decl. (Dkt. No. 372) at Ex. 2; see also Oct. 29, 2007 Hartman Decl., Attach. E at 2 (Dkt. No. 346). McKesson’s newly submitted Smith declaration states that PBMs can have a “negative” spread on drug prices. There is, however, no indication in the evidence that “negative” spreads are common. Smith does not claim that it is; Mr. Shinn’s new declaration does not mention it; and the issue did not arise in the PBM discovery taken in the AWP litigation. Moreover, and once again, the declarations are more interesting for what they do not say. For instance, these witnesses do not testify that the IMS data is inaccurate due to changes in the TPP-PBM relationship, and they do not say that the PBMs “squeezed” on behalf of TPPs in reaction to the Scheme or that the PBMs knew of the Scheme. Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 9 of 16 - 8 - 001821-13 212333 V1 4. Variations in spreads, if any, that are not picked up by the aggregate damages calculation will be adjusted for at the allocation phase McKesson asserts that pricing variations defeat an aggregate damages model. McKesson Br. at 7-9. Plaintiffs have never disputed that there will be some variation in pricing terms in contracts between TPPs and PBMs. Those variations, however, are not substantial enough to defeat an aggregate damages model here. The model will largely account for any variations and, to the extent that claims for particular TPPs diverge from averages implicit in the aggregate damages model, the specific amount recovered by a TPP will be adjusted in the damages allocation or claims administration phase, assuming that a liability and damages verdict is rendered. TPPs will submit their claims data and prove up damages, allowing for whatever mitigation, if any, they were able to receive of the Scheme’s effects that was not already reflected in the aggregate damages model.8 Consequently, the procedure will be similar to the allocation that will be made of the Court’s damages award in the AWP trial. C. The Model Is A Reasonable Estimate Of Aggregate Damages Plaintiffs have demonstrated that the IMS data is correlated to the prices that TPPs pay for drugs and, therefore, that data forms a reasonable foundation on which to construct an aggregate damages model. Factors supporting this conclusion include: • The IMS data is derived in part from payments by TPPs to retailers directly, in addition to payments from PBMs to retailers. (Thus, the “TPP direct” portion of the data correlates perfectly, a very inconvenient truth completely ignored by McKesson and Willig.) • The IMS data includes payments to retailers by PBMs acting strictly as claims administrators. In these instances, the PBMs pay precisely what the TPPs contracted with the retailers to pay because the reimbursement agreement is between the TPP 8 However, McKesson has failed to demonstrate any claw-backs in specific reaction to the Scheme. Willig shows that discounts off AWP increased over time from 1995 through 2005, but this was simply a continuing trend, which the aggregate damages model takes into consideration. If McKesson presents evidence at trial of any additional claw-back achieved by particular TPPs due to the Scheme, this will be accounted for in the allocation phase. Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 10 of 16 - 9 - 001821-13 212333 V1 and the retailer, and not between the PBM and retailer. (Another portion of the IMS data that correlates perfectly.) • The portion of the IMS data reflecting payments by PBMs to retailers on behalf of TPP clients generally and consistently correlates to the payments made by the TPPs to the PBMs. This is demonstrated by, inter alia: (i) the industry’s reliance on the data for strategic planning and marketing campaigns; (ii) near universal reliance by experts and courts on the IMS data as a proxy for TPP payments in drug pricing litigation;9 (iii) a “spot check” of the GE and CIGNA claims data which reveals a consistent, although not perfect, correlation; (iv) McKesson’s failure to present comprehensive claims data showing that there is not a general correlation; (iv) the many contracts submitted by Plaintiffs and revealing no evidence of a change in the TPP-PBM pricing relationship; (v) the dearth of contractual evidence submitted by McKesson showing such a change; and (vi) Dr. McDonough’s testimony based on real world experience that she saw no claw-back. Dr. Hartman’s damages model is a reasonable estimate of aggregate damages. It is not perfect, but it does not have to be.10 Plaintiffs have brought forth enough information for the 9 Even a partner in Dr. Willig’s consulting firm has relied on this data in a drug antitrust case. 10 It is well established in antitrust law that a plaintiff need not “establish the amount of damages with mathematical precision.” Coastal Fuels, Inc. v. Caribbean Petroleum Corp., 175 F.3d 18, 33 (1st Cir. 1999). “[I]t will be enough if the evidence show[s] the extent of the damages as a matter of just and reasonable inference, although the result be only approximate.” Story Parchment Co. v. Paterson Parchment Paper Co., 282 U.S. 555, 563 (1931). “The greater flexibility described in Story Parchment recognizes the difficult task of “quantifying the difference between what actually happened and what would have happened in a hypothetical free market.” Coastal Fuels, 175 F.3d at 33. Damage issues in antitrust cases “are rarely susceptible of the kind of concrete, detailed proof of injury which is available in other contexts.” J. Truett Payne Co. v. Chrysler Motors Corp., 451 U.S. 557, 566 (1981). “The nature of an antitrust claim means that some plaintiffs can only hypothesize about what the state of their affairs would have been absent the wrong . . . and we have, therefore, declined to hold antitrust plaintiffs to the same burden of proof of damages as demanded of plaintiffs in other civil cases[.]” Bell Atl. Corp. v. AT&T Corp., 339 F.3d 294, 303 (5th Cir. 2003). “[E]stablishing market prices in the ‘but for’ world free of anticompetitive conduct could be made difficult by the dearth of market information unaffected by the collusive actions of the defendants.” New York v. Julius Nasso Concrete Corp., 202 F.3d 82, 88-89 (2d Cir. 2000) (quotation, citation omitted). “Estimates and reasonable inferences of [antitrust] damages are sufficient.” Telecor Communs., Inc. v. Southwestern Bell Tel. Co., 305 F.3d 1124, 1151 (10th Cir. 2002). “[A]n antitrust plaintiff is only obligated to Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 11 of 16 - 10 - 001821-13 212333 V1 Court to conclude that the IMS data generally correlates to TPP payments, especially since that data is built, in part, from direct TPP-to-retailer payments. McKesson and Willig have failed to bring forth sufficient evidence of a fundamental flaw; they cannot show an absence of general correlation. Certification of aggregate damage classes is, therefore, appropriate now. McKesson will have another opportunity to challenge the methodology during the bench trial, although its efforts will once again prove unavailing. III. MCKESSON’S ALTERNATIVE “GAME PLAN” SHOULD BE AMENDED Plaintiffs have proposed an alternative game plan in the event that the Court does not believe it has a sufficient record to evaluate Dr. Hartman’s aggregate damages model. Under Plaintiffs’ alternative plan, the trial would be bifurcated into an initial liability trial, followed by either (i) a shorter trial on aggregate damages or (ii) a remedial phase involving the presentation of individual TPP claims under the auspices of a special master. The Class would receive notice of the liability certification and then a second notice, if Plaintiffs prevail at trial on liability and the Court later certifies a damages class. Additional discovery into damages is contemplated under Plaintiffs’ bifurcated proposal. Because the trial would be bifurcated, there would be ample time to complete this discovery without impeding the resolution at trial of the liability claims. The discovery would entail obtaining information from the major PBMs for the relevant time period, including a sampling of provide the trier-of-fact with some basis from which to estimate reasonably, and without undue speculation, the damages flowing from the antitrust violations.” Moore v. Jas. H. Matthews & Co., 682 F.2d 830, 836 (9th Cir. 1982); see also In re Carbon Black Antitrust Litig., 2005 U.S. Dist. Lexis 660, at *62 (D. Mass. July 18, 2005) (“[N]o precise damage formula is needed at the certification stage of an antitrust action; the court’s inquiry is limited to whether the proposed methods are so unsubstantial as to amount to no method at all.”) (quotation, citation omitted). Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 12 of 16 - 11 - 001821-13 212333 V1 claims data. Depositions of relevant PBM personnel may be necessary in order to confirm the authenticity and completeness of the data.11 Although McKesson’s alternative game plan also calls for a liability trial, McKesson advocates only limited discovery of PBMs into the narrow “constant relationship” issue. McKesson Br. at 13. As detailed above, the viability of the IMS data generally as a foundation for proving aggregate class damage is the real issue, and any additional PBM discovery should be directed to this larger inquiry. Another reason that the limited discovery contemplated by McKesson is unfair is that it would likely leave a host of questions unanswered to the prejudice of Plaintiffs. “Limited” discovery of the sort proposed by McKesson will only provide McKesson and the PBMs with an opportunity to tell only the parts of the story that they want to – that is, a storyline serving their narrow litigation and economic interests. The Court should bear in mind that the PBMs will vigorously contest any discovery into their contracts and pricing. Not only do the PBMs consider such information highly proprietary, the PBMs are the subject of other class suits by TPPs alleging, among other things, that the PBMs breached fiduciary duties to classes of TPP plaintiffs and otherwise failed to provide to the TPPs discounts owed. For these reasons, if the Court defers the damages certification decision, Plaintiffs should not be artificially hamstrung in their aggregate damages discovery efforts of the PBMs. If there is going to be any additional discovery of the PBMs, it should be broader than that proposed by McKesson and should be crafted to fully elucidate the appropriateness of using IMS data in an aggregate damages model. Plaintiffs submit that their alternative game plan accomplishes this goal; McKesson’s does not. 11 We do not believe that the content of such depositions should go beyond issues relating to the data. In other words, this would not be an invitation for McKesson to reopen wholesale discovery into the PBMs. Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 13 of 16 - 12 - 001821-13 212333 V1 DATED: December 5, 2007 By /s/ Steve W. Berman Steve W. Berman Sean R. Matt Nicholas Styant-Browne Barbara A. Mahoney Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 2900 Seattle, WA 98101 Telephone: (206) 623-7292 Facsimile: (206) 623-0594 Thomas M. Sobol (BBO#471770) Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP One Main Street, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02142 Telephone: (617) 482-3700 Facsimile: (617) 482-3003 Elizabeth Fegan Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP 820 North Boulevard, Suite B Oak Park, IL 60302 Telephone: (708) 776-5600 Facsimile: (708) 776-5601 Jeffrey Kodroff John Macoretta Spector, Roseman & Kodroff, P.C. 1818 Market Street, Suite 2500 Philadelphia, PA 19103 Telephone: (215) 496-0300 Facsimile: (215) 496-6611 Marc H. Edelson Edelson & Assocsiates 45 West Court Street Doylestown, PA 18901 Telephone: (215) 230-8043 Facsimile: (215) 230-8735 Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 14 of 16 - 13 - 001821-13 212333 V1 Kenneth A. Wexler Jennifer Fountain Connolly Wexler Toriseva Wallace LLP 55 West Monroe Street, Suite 3300 Chicago, IL 60603 Telephone: (312) 346-2222 Facsimile: (312) 346-0022 George E. Barrett Edmund L. Carey, Jr. Barret, Johnston & Parsley 217 Second Avenue, North Nashville, TN 37201 Telephone: (615) 244-2202 Facsimile: (615) 252-3798 Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 15 of 16 - 14 - 001821-13 212333 V1 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that a true copy of the above document was served upon the attorney of record for each other party through the Court’s electronic filing service on December 6, 2007. /s/ Steve W. Berman Steve W. Berman Case 1:05-cv-11148-PBS Document 386 Filed 12/06/2007 Page 16 of 16