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Apr 22, 2014

360 N.L.R.B. 659 (N.L.R.B. 2014)

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360 NLRB No. 79
United States Postal Service and National Association
of Letter Carriers, Sunshine Branch 504, affili-
ated with National Association of Letter Carri-
ers, AFL–CIO. Cases 28–CA–068385, 28–CA–
075708, 28–CA–077161, 28–CA–077164, and 28–
CA–078376
April 22, 2014
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN PEARCE AND MEMBERS MISCIMARRA
AND HIROZAWA
On September 11, 2013, Administrative Law Judge
John J. McCarrick issued the attached decision. The
Respondent filed exceptions and a supporting brief, and
the General Counsel filed an answering brief. The Gen-
eral Counsel filed cross-exceptions and a supporting
brief, the Respondent filed an answering brief, and the
General Counsel filed a reply brief.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its
authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record
in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to
affirm the judge’s rulings, findings,1 and conclusions in
part, to reverse them in part, and to adopt the recom-
mended Order as modified and set forth in full below.2
The judge found that the Respondent committed sever-
al violations of Section 8(a)(1), as well as a violation of
Section 8(a)(5). We adopt most of the judge’s findings.3

1 The Respondent has excepted to some of the judge’s credibility
findings. The Board’s established policy is not to overrule an adminis-
trative law judge’s credibility resolutions unless the clear preponder-
ance of all the relevant evidence convinces us that they are incorrect.
Standard Dry Wall Products, 91 NLRB 544 (1950), enfd. 188 F.2d 362
(3d Cir. 1951). We have carefully examined the record and find no
basis for reversing the findings.
2 We shall modify the judge’s recommended Order to conform to
our findings and to the Board’s standard remedial language. We also
note that the judge included a narrow cease-and-desist provision in his
recommended Order, but the notice attached to his decision inadvert-
ently included a broad cease-and-desist provision. We have substituted
a new notice to conform to the recommended Order as modified and to
correct that error.
3 For the reasons stated in the judge’s decision, we adopt his finding
that the Respondent violated Sec. 8(a)(1) by refusing to inform em-
ployees of the nature of an investigatory interview. We also adopt the
judge’s dismissal of the allegation that the Respondent violated Sec.
8(a)(3) and (4) by revoking an employee’s previously scheduled leave.
There are no exceptions to the judge’s findings that the Respondent
violated Sec. 8(a)(1) by threatening employees with unspecified repris-
als because they threatened to file a charge with the Board, threatening
employees that it would be futile to request a union representative of
their choosing to represent them at an investigatory interview, and
threatening employees with discipline because they invoked their
Weingarten rights. In addition, there are no exceptions to the judge’s
finding that the Respondent violated Sec. 8(a)(5) and (1) by unilaterally
changing its past practice at its airport and North Valley stations of
For the reasons set forth below, however, we reverse the
judge’s finding that the Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) by continuing to question employee John Trujillo
after he asserted his Weingarten right to union represen-
tation at an investigatory interview. See NLRB v. J.
Weingarten, Inc., 420 U.S. 251 (1975).
Trujillo is a letter carrier at the Respondent’s main of-
fice carrier annex in Albuquerque, New Mexico. On
February 23, 2012,4 Trujillo completed a written request
for leave from March 1 through 4. Trujillo mistakenly
dated the request February 24. An unidentified supervi-
sor signed and approved the request on February 23.
On March 1, while working on a project at a different
office, Trujillo informed Supervisor Mel Sanchez of his
upcoming scheduled leave. Sanchez asked Trujillo if he
had an approved leave slip, and Trujillo said that he did.
Sanchez then asked Trujillo for a copy. In response, Tru-
jillo told Sanchez that he was invoking his Weingarten
rights and that he wanted the union president, David
Pratt, to represent him.5 Sanchez told Trujillo that their
discussion would not lead to discipline. Trujillo asked
Sanchez to put that in writing, which Sanchez did. Tru-
jillo then showed Sanchez the approved leave slip. But
when Sanchez told Trujillo to give him the leave slip,
Trujillo refused. Sanchez then left the room.
A short time later, Marla Lacy, then-manager of cus-
tomer service operations and a higher-level official than
Sanchez, entered the room and asked Trujillo if he had
scheduled leave. Trujillo said that he had. Trujillo then
told Lacy that he was invoking his Weingarten rights and
wanted Pratt to represent him. Lacy said, “Are you kid-
ding?” to which Trujillo replied, “No, I am not.” Lacy
did not question Trujillo further.
Under Weingarten, an employee has the right to union
representation at an interview that the employee reasona-
bly fears may result in discipline. 420 U.S. at 256, 267.
The judge found that when Sanchez first questioned Tru-
jillo about his leave request, Trujillo reasonably believed
that the questioning could lead to discipline because of
the date discrepancy. The judge found that Sanchez’s
written assurance neutralized Trujillo’s concern and that,
had the matter gone no further, there would be no viola-
tion. The judge reasoned, however, that by bringing
Lacy into the interview and her asking Trujillo additional
questions, the Respondent “ratcheted up the seriousness
of the interview and negated Sanchez’ assurances of no

allowing employees to select a union representative from outside their
assigned stations to represent them at investigatory interviews.
4 All dates hereafter are 2012, unless otherwise noted.
5 At the hearing, Trujillo testified that he was concerned that he
would be questioned about the date discrepancy and that the question-
ing could lead to discipline.
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discipline.” In the judge’s view, this conduct triggered
the Respondent’s obligation under Weingarten to exer-
cise one of three options: honor Trujillo’s earlier request
for union representation, give Trujillo the option of going
forward without a representative, or stop the interview.
See Postal Service, 241 NLRB 141 (1979). The judge
found that by continuing the questioning without giving
Trujillo this choice, the Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1).
We disagree. Even assuming Trujillo had an objec-
tively reasonable basis to fear discipline, the right to
Weingarten representation is triggered when the employ-
ee requests it. See 420 U.S. at 257. And a request need
not be repeated if it has been communicated to the person
conducting the interview. See Consolidated Freightways
Corp., 264 NLRB 541, 542 (1982); Ball Plastics Divi-
sion, 257 NLRB 971, 976 (1981); Roadway Express, 246
NLRB 1127, 1128 (1979). Here, however, there is no
evidence that Lacy knew about Trujillo’s earlier request
for union representation when she took charge and asked
him if he had scheduled leave.6 When Trujillo told Lacy
that he wanted union representation, Lacy discontinued
the interview. Accordingly, we reverse the judge’s find-
ing that the Respondent’s questioning of Trujillo violated
Section 8(a)(1).7
ORDER
The National Labor Relations Board orders that the
Respondent, United States Postal Service, Albuquerque,
New Mexico, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns,
shall
1. Cease and desist from
(a) Threatening employees with unspecified reprisals
because they threatened to file a charge with the National
Labor Relations Board.

6 The Board has also held that, if the supervisor to whom the request
was made is present for the interview, then the employee need not
reassert his Weingarten rights to the management official conducting
the interview. See, e.g., Amoco Oil Co., 278 NLRB 1, 8 (1986). Here,
it is not clear from the record whether Sanchez was present when Lacy
asked Trujillo if he had scheduled leave. Trujillo’s testimony implies
that Sanchez was present, but Lacy testified that, to her recollection,
only she and Trujillo were present. No party called Sanchez to testify.
7 Member Miscimarra would also find that Lacy’s sole question to
Trujillo—asking whether he had scheduled a leave—was not a further
investigatory question that could have infringed on his Weingarten
rights. The single question posed by Lacy did not in any way extend
Sanchez’s prior questioning concerning the leave slip. It was clearly
introductory and did not elicit anything beyond what Trujillo had al-
ready volunteered and freely discussed with Sanchez. Trujillo had
approached Sanchez to tell him about the leave, and Trujillo only re-
quested a Weingarten representative when Sanchez asked for a copy of
the leave slip.
(b) Threatening employees that it would be futile to
request a union representative of their choosing to repre-
sent them in an investigatory interview.
(c) Threatening employees with discipline for failing
to obey instructions because they invoked their
Weingarten rights.
(d) Refusing to inform employees of the nature of an
investigatory interview.
(e) Unilaterally changing its past practice at its airport
and North Valley stations in Albuquerque, New Mexico,
of providing employees a union representative of their
choosing at fact-finding investigatory interviews.
(f) In any like or related manner interfering with, re-
straining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the
rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to
effectuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Before implementing any changes in wages, hours,
or other terms and conditions of employment of unit em-
ployees, notify and, on request, bargain with the Union
as the exclusive collective-bargaining representative of
employees in the following bargaining unit. The appro-
priate unit is described in article 1, sections 1 through 4,
of the 2006–2011 collective-bargaining agreement.
(b) Rescind the unilateral change and restore the prac-
tice of providing its employees with a representative of
their choosing in fact-finding investigative interviews.
(c) Within 14 days after service by the Region, post at
its Airport, Highland, North Valley, and Main Office
facilities in Albuquerque, New Mexico, copies of the
attached notice marked “Appendix.”8 Copies of the no-
tice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Re-
gion 28, after being signed by the Respondent’s author-
ized representative, shall be posted by the Respondent
and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous
places, including all places where notices to employees
are customarily posted. In addition to physical posting of
paper notices, notices shall be distributed electronically,
such as by email, posting on an intranet or an internet
site, and/or other electronic means, if the Respondent
customarily communicates with its employees by such
means. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respond-
ent to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or
covered by any other material. If the Respondent has
gone out of business or closed the facility involved in
these proceedings, the Respondent shall duplicate and
mail, at its own expense, a copy of the notice to all cur-

8 If this Order is enforced by a judgment of a United States court of
appeals, the words in the notice reading “Posted by Order of the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board” shall read “Posted Pursuant to a Judg-
ment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the
National Labor Relations Board.”
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rent employees and former employees employed by the
Respondent at any time since November 3, 2011.
(d) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file
with the Regional Director for Region 28 a sworn certifi-
cation of a responsible official on a form provided by the
Region attesting to the steps that the Respondent has
taken to comply.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint is dismissed
insofar as it alleges violations of the Act not specifically
found.
APPENDIX
NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we vio-
lated Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey
this notice.
FEDERAL LAW GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on
your behalf
Act together with other employees for your bene-
fit and protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected
activities.
WE WILL NOT threaten you with unspecified reprisals
because you stated that you would file a charge with the
Board.
WE WILL NOT threaten you that it would be futile to re-
quest a union representative of your own choosing to
represent you in an investigatory interview.
WE WILL NOT threaten you with discipline for failing
to obey instructions because you invoked your
Weingarten rights.
WE WILL NOT refuse to inform you of the nature of in-
vestigatory interviews that you would reasonably believe
could result in discipline.
WE WILL NOT fail to bargain collectively with National
Association of Letter Carriers, Sunshine Branch 504,
affiliated with National Association of Letter Carriers,
AFL–CIO (the Union) by unilaterally changing the prac-
tice of providing you with a union representative of your
own choosing to represent you in a fact-finding investi-
gatory interview.
WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere
with, restrain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights
listed above.
WE WILL, before implementing any changes in wages,
hours, or other terms and conditions of employment of
unit employees, notify and, on request, bargain with the
Union as the exclusive collective-bargaining representa-
tive of our employees in the following bargaining unit.
The appropriate unit is described in article 1, sections 1
through 4, of our 2006–2011 collective-bargaining
agreement.
WE WILL rescind the unilateral change and restore the
practice of providing you with a representative of your
choosing in fact-finding investigative interviews.
UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
David Garza, Esq., for the General Counsel.
Roderick D. Eves, Esq., of St. Louis, Missouri, for the Re-
spondent.
David Pratt, President, NALC Branch 504, of Albuquerque,
New Mexico, for the Charging Party.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
JOHN J. MCCARRICK, Administrative Law Judge. This case
was tried in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on June 18 and 19,
2013, upon the third consolidated complaint1 (complaint) in
Cases 28–CA–068385, et al., issued on April 3, 2013, by the
Regional Director for Region 28.
The complaint alleges that the United States Postal Service
(Respondent) violated Section 8(a)(1), (3), (4), and (5) of the
(the National Labor Relations Act (the Act).
It is alleged Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (4) of
the Act by threatening employees because they filed charges
with the Board. It is alleged Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act by denying employees representation by the
Union during an investigatory interview, by threatening em-
ployees it would be futile to request a union representative at an
investigatory interview, by threatening employees with disci-
pline for failing to obey instructions because they invoked their
Weingarten rights,2 and by threatening employees by refusing
to inform them of the nature of an investigatory interview.
The complaint alleges Respondent violated Section 8(a)(3)
of the Act by cancelling employee John Trujillo’s leave.
It is also alleged Respondent violated Section 8(a)(5) of the
Act, at its Airport and North Valley stations, by changing its
practice of providing unit employees a representative of their
choosing during an investigatory interview that they reasonably
believed might result in discipline without giving notice to the
Union or bargaining about this change.
Respondent filed a timely answer to the complaint stating it
had committed no wrongdoing.

1 On May 16, 2013, the Regional Director for Region 28 issued an
Order Severing Cases and Dismissing Complaint Allegations. (GC
Exh. 1(vv).) In that order, as a result of a Stipulation for Entry of Con-
sent Order and a Consent Order in Cases 28–CA–023200, 28–CA–
063556, 28–CA–064310, and 28–CA–075375, those cases were sev-
ered from this case. Further pars. 1(a) through (d), 1(g), 6(a), and 8(a)
through (g) of the instant complaint were dismissed.
2 NLRB v. J. Weingarten, Inc., 420 U.S. 251 (1975).
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD662
FINDINGS OF FACT
Upon the entire record herein, including the briefs from the
counsel for the Acting General Counsel (the General Counsel)
and Respondent, I make the following findings of fact.
I. JURISDICTION
In its answer Respondent admitted it provides postal services
for the United States of America, and in the performance of that
function, has operated various facilities throughout the United
States, including facilities located in Albuquerque, New Mexi-
co.
Based upon the above, the Board has jurisdiction over Re-
spondent under Section 1209 of the Postal Reform Act (PRA).
II. LABOR ORGANIZATION
Respondent admitted and I find that the National Association
of Letter Carriers, Sunshine Branch 504, affiliated with the
National Association of Letter Carriers, AFL–CIO is a labor
organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
III. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
This case involves the United States Postal Service (Re-
spondent) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The National Associ-
ation of Letter Carriers, Branch 504 (the Union) is the exclusive
collective-bargaining representative of city letter carriers who
deliver mail at 12 of Respondent’s stations in Albuquerque. It
is undisputed that Respondent and the Union have had a long
collective-bargaining history embodied in several collective-
bargaining agreements the most recent of which is effective
2006–2011.3
At all times relevant herein, Humberto Trujillo was Re-
spondent’s postmaster in Albuquerque. Respondent’s customer
service representatives, including Marla Lacy, reported to Tru-
jillo. Station managers are responsible for the operations of
each of the 12 postal stations in Albuquerque. A morning and
evening supervisor directly supervise the letter carriers and
report to the station manager.
Postal supervisors and station managers are called upon to
conduct factfinding interviews with bargaining unit letter carri-
ers. There is no dispute that these fact finding interviews may
result in employee discipline.
A. The 8(a)5) Allegations
Complaint paragraphs 8(h)–(k) allege that since on or about
March 20 and April 5, 2012, at Respondent’s Airport and North
Valley stations respectively, Respondent changed its practice of
providing unit employees a union representative of their choos-
ing during an investigatory interview which they believed
might result in discipline. It is alleged that this change relates
to a mandatory subject of bargaining and was made without

3 (GC Exh. 39). At the hearing the General Counsel moved for the
admission of this exhibit. It is a complete copy of R. Exh. 10, a portion
of the April 2009 Joint Contract Administration Manual. Sufficient
copies of the General Counsel’s exhibit were not available before the
hearing closed, and I gave the General Counsel an opportunity to pro-
vide sufficient copies posthearing. There being no objection, the GC
Exh. 39 is received into evidence.
notice to or an opportunity for the Union to bargain with Re-
spondent in violation of Section 8(a)(5) of the Act.
1. The facts
a. Past practice
The record clearly establishes that for many years before
March 2012 Respondent permitted a practice of allowing letter
carriers to choose who would represent them in factfinding
interviews. Before March 2012, Union President David Pratt
(Pratt), Union Vice President Angel Martinez (Martinez), for-
mal step A designee John Trujillo (J. Trujillo), and Chief Shop
Steward Robert Woodley (Woodley) each regularly represented
employees in fact finding investigations at stations other than
the stations where the union representatives worked.
This testimony was corroborated by both employee testimo-
ny and documents memorializing the factfinding investigations.
General Counsel’s Exhibits 6–18, 27, and 34–36 reflect that
employees were represented in factfinding meetings by union
representatives of their choosing who did not work in the office
where the meeting was being held. Respondent proffered 127
factfinding investigation documents,4 which purport to show
that employees were represented by a union steward or officer
from the same facility. Respondent offered this evidence to
show there was no past practice by Respondent of granting
employees a choice of representative at factfinding meetings
from outside their station.
However, prior to the hearing herein, the General Counsel
served subpoenas on Respondent seeking documents that would
show factfinding interviews were conducted by union repre-
sentatives at stations other than their assigned station. The
requests included specific requests for factfinding documents
involving Union President Pratt, Vice President Martinez, for-
mal step A designee J. Trujillo, and Chief Shop Steward Wood-
ley. At the hearing the General Counsel questioned Respond-
ent’s failure to produce more documents concerning factfinding
meetings. Respondent contended that the documents reflecting
factfinding meetings were destroyed if no discipline resulted
from the factfinding. However, Respondent admitted that if an
employee was issued subsequent discipline, the previous fact
finding documents would be kept in the employee’s file for no
longer than 2 years.
Later in the hearing it became apparent that Respondent did
not make a diligent effort to locate responsive fact finding
meeting documents as requested in the subpoena. Respond-
ent’s labor relations representative, Ed Arvizo, admitted that he
had searched through only a quarter to a third of the boxes of
documents that could contain copies of the factfinding sheets
requested by the subpoena.5 Arvizo further admitted that nei-
ther he nor any other representative of Respondent searched
any employee files located at the employee’s workstation
which might contain factfinding meeting documents.6
Several options are available where a party refuses to comply
with a subpoena. An adverse inference may be drawn against a

4 R. Exh. 8.
5 Tr. at 360, L. 17, Tr. 360, LL. 17–25 to 36, LL. 1–3, 25 to 36, LL.
1–3.
6 Tr. at 367, LL. 20–25 to 368, LL. 1–3.
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party that introduces incomplete or altered evidence, especially
in response to a subpoena. ADF, Inc., 355 NLRB 81, 86 (2010);
Precipitator Services Group, Inc., 349 NLRB 797, 800 (2007).
Given Respondent’s failure to diligently search its files to de-
termine if there were additional documents which would show
that factfinding investigations were conducted by union repre-
sentatives at stations other than their assigned station, I will
draw the adverse inference that had the files been fully
searched documents would have been produced showing that
the practice of factfinding investigations were conducted by
Union representatives at stations other than their assigned sta-
tion.
City carrier Joseph Valverde (Valverde) was represented by
Pratt, Martinez, and J. Trujillo in factfinding meetings at his
North Valley Carrier Annex station prior to March 2012. Pratt
represented city carrier and North Valley Carrier Annex Stew-
ard Christopher Montoya (Montoya) 4 times in the past 3 to 5
years in factfinding investigations. Montoya had seen Martinez
represent employees in factfinding investigations at his station
four to five times in the last 3 to 5 years after seeing documen-
tation with Martinez’ name in station employee grievance and
request for information files.7
Pratt, Martinez, Trujillo, and Woodley have been represented
by a union officer other than the certified steward at their sta-
tion.
Respondent’s supervisor Richard Guzman (Guzman), partic-
ipated in about 30 factfinding investigations in 13 years as a
supervisor or manager in Albuquerque. In those 30 investiga-
tions, no employee objected to the steward provided and only
one employee requested a representative from another station.
Respondent’s supervisor Rommel Gomez (Gomez), was in-
volved in three or four factfinding investigations as a supervisor
in 15 years in Albuquerque and no employee asked for repre-
sentative from another station. Respondent’s supervisor, Plat-
ero-Dryer, took part in five factfinding investigations as a su-
pervisor in Albuquerque in the past 6 years. No employee
asked for a representative from another station. Respondent’s
supervisor Jacqueline Woods, recalled 25 times when she con-
ducted a factfinding investigation herself, and another 5 times
when a supervisor who reported to her conducted a fact-finding
investigation in the last 15 to 16 years. Of those prior to March
21, 2012, Woods recalled two or three times when an employee
asked for a representative from another station because the
steward was not in the facility. Respondent’s supervisor, Ar-
chuleta, claimed to be involved in hundreds of factfinding in-
vestigations as a supervisor or manager in Albuquerque in the
last 5 years. Of those, she could recall only two or three em-
ployees who asked for a representative from another facility in
the last 6 months.
The testimony of Guzman, Gomez, Platero-Dryer, Archuleta,
and Woods is of little probative value since their total number
of investigations is miniscule in relation to the total number of

7 I find no inconsistency in Montoya’s testimony when compared
with his affidavit as he stated on both occasions that he had overheard
conversations about Martinez’ representing other employees at the
North Valley station.
investigations conducted during the time they were supervisors.
It will be given little credit.
Contrary to Respondent’s argument in its brief, Supervisor
Rose Griego (Griego testified that she has not conducted a fact-
finding investigation before March 20, 2012. All she could
recall was investigations her supervisors had conducted, and
she was unable to recall that the employee asked for a repre-
sentative from another station when the steward that was as-
signed to her station was not available. Her testimony is of
dubious value since she did not participate in these investiga-
tions and is not in a position to know if an employee asked for
another representative.
Respondent’s labor relations representative, Ed Arvizo
(Arvizo), a manager and supervisor for Respondent for at least
16 years, recalled 200 to 300 factfinding investigations as a
manager and a seeing perhaps a thousand factfinding investiga-
tion reports while working in labor relations. He claimed that
an employee asked for a representative from another facility 10
to 15 times. Like Griego, Arviso’s testimony is of limited val-
ue since he did not participate in the “thousand” investigations
as a labor relations representative. Further, it is unclear that he
participated in the “200 to 300” investigations as a manager. It
has not been established he is competent to know if the em-
ployees in the 1200–1300 investigations requested a representa-
tive from another station.
Respondent contends that the testimony of Union Represent-
atives Woodley, Trujillo, Martinez, and Pratt fail to establish a
past practice of representing employees in factfinding investi-
gations because they may have referred to themselves as step A
designees when they represented employees in factfinding
meetings. Respondent’s argument follows that since step A
grievance proceedings take place only after a grievance has
been filed, Woodley, Trujillo, Martinez, and Pratt could not
have taken part in factfinding meetings since they occur before
the filing of a grievance.
This argument holds no water. Whether they described
themselves as union officers, stewards, or step A designees, the
record is clear that they acted as representatives of employees
at factfinding investigations at locations other than their own
workstations on a routine basis for an extended period of time.
b. The change
Beginning in mid-March 2012, shortly after new Postmaster
Humberto Trujillo arrived in Albuquerque in February 2012,
Respondent no longer allowed employees to choose their repre-
sentative for factfinding investigations conducted at their as-
signed stations.
Airport Station Supervisor Peter Baldwin (Baldwin) admit-
ted that in the past, employees had always been allowed to
choose their union representative for factfinding interviews.
Baldwin’s manager, Rose Griego, told him that the new rule
that employees could not have union representatives from other
stations represent them in factfinding investigations, came from
the Albuquerque postmaster’s office. North Valley Station
Manager Guzman said that he received this new policy from
manager of customer service operations, Marla Lacy. In March
2012, main office carrier annex (MOCA) Manager Al Baca and
MOCA Supervisor Rick Oyer told the union formal step-A
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designee Trujillo that the Albuquerque postmaster had issued
orders that employees at the MOCA station could not have
representatives from other stations represent them for fact find-
ing meetings.
c. Examples of the rule change
i. The March 20, 2012 factfinding investigation
of Angel Martinez
Martinez is a letter carrier who has worked at Respondent’s
Airport station in Albuquerque, New Mexico, since 2003. Mar-
tinez has been union vice president for the past 3 years and a
Union formal step A designee since 2004.
At the Airport station on March 20, 2012, Martinez was told
by his supervisor, Baldwin, that he was to attend a factfinding
investigation. Martinez told Baldwin that he was invoking his
Weingarten rights and wanted union formal A representative,
Trujillo, who worked at the main post office (MOCA) in down-
town Albuquerque, to represent him at the factfinding meeting.
Martinez told Baldwin that Trujillo was available and on the
clock. Baldwin walked away.
Baldwin returned about 5 minutes later and Martinez asked
him if he had gotten a hold of Trujillo. Baldwin told Martinez
Respondent was trying to get a hold of Trujillo and Baldwin
told Martinez to wait and left again. Martinez then spoke to
Trujillo by cell phone and Martinez told Trujillo that he had
requested him as representative for a factfinding meeting. Tru-
jillo was at the MOCA station, about 3 miles or 10 minutes
away from the Airport station.
When Baldwin returned a third time 2 to 3 minutes later,
Martinez told him that no one had tried to contact Trujillo and
repeated that he was invoking his Weingarten rights and wanted
J. Trujillo to represent him in the factfinding meeting. Mar-
tinez told Baldwin that J. Trujillo was available. Baldwin told
Martinez to stop invoking his Weingarten rights. Baldwin said
it was futile for Martinez to say that he was violating his rights.
Baldwin told Martinez that Airport station steward, Mike Gill,
would be representing him.
Baldwin conducted a factfinding investigation with Martinez
about 45 minutes later. Steward Mike Gill was present at the
meeting.
ii. The March 21, 2012 factfinding investigation
of Rudy Segarra
Since 1996 Rudy Segarra has been employed as a letter car-
rier at Respondent’s Highland station in Albuquerque, New
Mexico.
On March 21, 2012, Segarra’s supervisor Minga Platero-
Dreyer, told Segarra that he had to attend a factfinding meeting.
Segarra had attended a previous factfinding meeting on March
19, 2012, regarding an incident with his postal vehicle.8 Union
Steward Woodley, who also worked at the Highland station,
represented Segarra for this factfinding interview. Segarra told
Platero-Dreyer that if the new factfinding meeting was related
to the March 19 meeting, he wanted Woodley to represent him
again. Platero-Dreyer told Segarra that Highland station stew-

8 I find nothing inconsistent between Segarra’a affidavit and his tes-
timony at trial.
ard, Bill Mallison, would serve as his representative not Wood-
ley. Segara told Platero-Dreyer that he was invoking his
Weingarten rights and would not be saying anything else. Plat-
ero-Dreyer walked away.
Platero-Dreyer returned with Highland Station Manager
Jacqueline Woods. Platero-Dreyer repeated that she needed
Segarra to go to the factfinding meeting. Manager Woods told
Segarra that if he did not cooperate, he would be charged with
failure to obey instructions.
Segarra followed Platero-Dreyer to her office where the fact-
finding investigation was held with Segarra, Platero-Dreyer,
and Steward Mallison. Each time Segarra was questioned by
Platero-Dreyer, he invoked his Weingarten rights and stated he
wanted Woodley to represent him. Mallison told Platero-
Dreyer she was violating Segarra’s Weingarten rights by not
allowing Woodley to represent him. Platero-Dreyer said the
postmaster told her to provide Mallison and not Woodley for
the factfinding meeting.
On March 21, 2012, Mallison told Woodley that Segarra had
requested Woodley for a factfinding meeting. Woodley told
Platero-Dreyer that she was violating Segarra’s Weingarten
rights. Platero-Dreyer told Woodley she needed to talk to
someone and left. When Platero-Dreyer returned a short time
later, she told Woodley she had been ordered by the Albuquer-
que postmaster to have Mallison represent Segarra not Wood-
ley.
iii. The April 5, 2012 factfinding investigation
of Joseph Valverde
For the last 5 years, Valverde has been employed as a letter
carrier at Respondent’s North Valley Carrier Annex in Albu-
querque, New Mexico.
On April 5, 2012, two factfinding meetings were conducted
with Valverde. On the morning of April 5, 2012, Valverde was
approached by his supervisor, Rommel Gomez, who told
Valverde that he needed to conduct a factfinding investigation
with him. Valverde told North Valley Carrier Annex Union
Steward Christopher Montoya, in Gomez’ presence, that he
wanted Union President Pratt or Vice President Martinez to
represent him.
Valverde, Montoya, and Gomez spoke with Station Manager
Guzman. Montoya told Guzman that Valverde had requested
Union President Pratt or Vice President Martinez to represent
him at the factfinding meeting. Guzman told Valverde and
Montoya that Montoya was the station steward and that he was
going to represent Valverde.
Gomez conducted the factfinding meeting with Valverde and
Union Steward Montoya. During the meeting, each time
Valverde was asked a question by Gomez, he asserted his
Weingarten rights and said he wanted Martinez or one of the
other union officers to represent him.9
Valverde returned to work after the factfinding meeting.
About 30 minutes later, Gomez called Valverde back to a sec-
ond factfinding meeting. Gomez told Valverde there were
additional questions manager of customer service operations,

9 I find no inconsistencies between Valverde’s affidavit and his tes-
timony.
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Marla Lacy, had written for him. During this meeting,
Valverde received a letter that stated if he did not answer the
factfinding questions, he would be held insubordinate.
When Gomez approached Montoya on April 5, 2012, about
the factfinding investigation of Valverde, Montoya asked
Gomez what the issue in the investigation was. Gomez told
him he did not know. No effort was made by Respondent to
have Pratt, Martinez, or J. Trujillo present for Valverde’s fact
finding meeting or to see if any of them were available to at-
tend the factfinding.
Prior to mid-March 2012, the Union was never contacted by
Respondent about any changes to the practice of granting em-
ployees’ their choice of representative at a factfinding investi-
gation not was the Union given notice prior to the change in
practice being implemented in mid-March 2012. In early
March 2012, once the Union was aware of the change in the
policy of allowing employees to choose their representative in
factfinding meetings, Union President Pratt made several verbal
requests to Postmaster Trujillo to rescind the change and go
back to observing the established past practice. The Union
stopped making the requests when Postmaster Trujillo made it
clear that Respondent was not going to comply with the deci-
sion of Administrative Law Judge Lana Parke,10 finding that
employees had the right to choose the representative of their
choice in factfinding investigations.
2. The analysis
There is no dispute that Respondent’s factfindings meetings
are investigations that can lead to discipline. Accordingly,
under Weingarten employees are entitled to union representa-
tion during these meetings. As ALJ Lana Parke pointed out in
her November 6, 2006 decision in Postal Service, JD(SF)–60–
06, involving the same bargaining unit involved herein, “The
selection of an employee’s representative belongs to the em-
ployee and the union, in the absence of extenuating circum-
stances. . . .” Barnard College, 340 NLRB 934, 935 (2003),
citing Anheuser-Busch, Inc., 337 NLRB 3 (2001), enfd. 338
F.3d 267 (4th Cir. 2003), and Pacific Gas & Electric Co., 253
NLRB 1143 (1981).
The first issue that must be resolved herein is whether Re-
spondent made unilateral changes to its employees’ mandatory
terms and conditions of employment in the selection of union
representatives at factfinding investigations.
The Board has long held that mandatory subjects of bargain-
ing include wages, hours, and other terms and conditions of
employment as set forth in Section 8(d) of the Act. Axelson,
Inc., 243 NLRB 414, 415 (1978). Likewise, disciplinary pro-
cedures and any changes to an established system of discipline
mandatory subjects of bargaining. Washoe Medical Center,
Inc., 337 NLRB 202, 205 (2001). Service Employees Local
250 (Alta Bates Medical Center), 321 NLRB 382, 384 (1996).
In Barnard College, 340 NLRB at 945, the ALJ found, and
the Board affirmed, that unilateral changes in the parties’ past
practice with respect to grievance procedures, including meet-
ing with union representatives, violated Section 8(a)(5) of the
Act.

10 Postal Service, JD(SF)–60–06, November 6, 2006.
Before an employer may make changes to mandatory sub-
jects of bargaining, it must first notify and give the union an
opportunity to request bargaining. NLRB v. Katz, 369 U.S. 736
(1962); St. Anthony Hospital Systems, 319 NLRB 46 (1995).
An employer who has made unilateral changes to mandatory
terms and conditions of employment without notice or bargain-
ing with the union has presented the union with a fait accompli
which does not constitute timely notice or bargaining. Penntech
Papers v. NLRB, 706 F.2d 18, 26 (1st Cir. 1983); Los Angeles
Soap Co., 300 NLRB 289 (1990).
With respect to extra contractual terms and conditions of
employment that have become a past practice, in Sunoco, Inc.,
349 NLRB 240, 244 (2007), the ALJ affirmed by the Board
held:
An employer’s practices, even if not required by a collective-
bargaining agreement, which are regular and long-standing,
rather than random or intermittent, become terms and condi-
tions of unit employees’ employment, which cannot be altered
without offering their collective-bargaining representative no-
tice and an opportunity to bargain over the proposed change
. . . . A past practice must occur with such regularity and fre-
quency that employees could reasonably expect the “practice”
to continue or reoccur on a regular and consistent basis.
In the instant case, it is abundantly clear that long before
March 2012, Respondent regularly permitted its employees to
choose the union representative of their choice at factfinding
investigative meetings. This was the case whether or not the
requested union representative worked at the employees’ sta-
tion. Having established a regular and longstanding practice
dealing with disciplinary measures, a mandatory subject of
bargaining, employees reasonably expected this practice to
continue on a consistent basis. The parties were no longer free
to change this practice without notice to and bargaining with
each other.
3. Respondent’s defenses
a. Deferral
Respondent contends that the issue of whether there has been
a violation of Section 8(a)(5) of the Act in the alleged change in
practice concerning employee choice of representatives in fact-
finding investigations should be deferred to arbitration.
Respondent cites Collyer Insulated Wire, 192 NLRB 837,
842, where the Board stated it will defer to arbitration unfair
labor practices involving Section 8(a)(5) of the Act if the dis-
pute arose under a long and productive collective-bargaining
relationship, if there is no evidence of respondent’s enmity to
employees’ protected rights, if respondent has agreed to arbitra-
tion under a clause that provides for arbitration in a broad range
of disputes, broad enough to encompass the dispute before the
Board and if the contract and its meaning lie at the center of the
dispute.
Since there is no evidence that a grievance has been filed in-
volving this issue, Respondent contends that a request for pre-
arbitral deferral may be raised during the unfair labor practice
hearing citing Duchess Furniture, 220 NLRB 13 (1975), for
support. Unfortunately Duchess Furniture does not support
this proposition. In fact in Duchess Furniture the Board re-
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD666
versed the ALJ and refused deferral to arbitration without men-
tioning the issue of raising arbitration during the unfair labor
practice hearing.
However in Postal Service, 225 NLRB, 220, 220–221
(1976), the Board noted that it would defer to arbitration since
the union agreed to file a grievance and respondent United
States Postal Service indicated its willingness to waive contrac-
tual time limitations. See also Pilot Freight Carriers, Inc., 224
NLRB 341, 345 (1976).
It is apparent that the time limits for filing a grievance in this
matter have long since passed.11 While Respondent in its an-
swer has indicated the matter should be deferred to arbitration,
there is no evidence that the Union is willing to file a grievance
or that Respondent will waive time limits. Accordingly, defer-
ral is inappropriate.
b. Waiver
Respondent also argues that the Union has waived its right to
bargain over employees’ choice of a union representative in a
factfinding investigation by the terms of the parties’ collective-
bargaining agreement, particularly article 17, Representation,
the interpretation of article 17 in the parties 2009 Joint Contract
Administration Manual (JCAM) and the interpretation given
article 17 in the June 27, 1989, Carlton J. Snow arbitration
decision.
Article 17 of the parties’ collective-bargaining agreement
provides for representation of employees by union stewards in
the grievance procedure.
Article 17.112 provides that: “Stewards may be designated to
the purpose of investigating, presenting and adjusting grievanc-
es.”
Article 17.213 provides that:
A. The Union will certify to the Employer in writing a stew-
ard or stewards and alternates in accordance with the follow-
ing general guidelines. Where more than one steward is ap-
pointed, one shall be designated chief steward. The selection
and appointment of stewards or chief stewards is the sole and
exclusive function of the Union. Stewards will be certified to
represent employees in specific work location(s) on their tour;
provided no more than one steward may be certified to repre-
sent employees in a particular work location(s). The number
of stewards certified shall not exceed, but may be less than,
the number provided by the formula. Hereinafter set forth.
Article 17.314 provides that: “If an employee requests a
steward or Union representative to be present during the course
of an interrogation by the Inspection Service, such request will
be granted.”
There is nothing in article 17 which suggests that employee
choice of a union representative is in any manner limited in a
factfinding investigation. Article 17 refers solely to representa-
tion in the grievance procedure.

11 R. Exh. 7.
12 R. Exh. 9.
13 Id.
14 Id.
The 2009 Joint Contract Administration Manual (JCAM)15 is
an administrative manual which provides interpretation for the
parties of their 2006–2011 collective-bargaining agreement.16
Page 17–6 of the JCAM discusses employees’ Weingarten
rights and when they are entitled to be represented at an inves-
tigatory interview. This portion of the JCAM makes no men-
tion of an employee’s right to choose a representative in an
investigatory interview or in a factfinding interview. It simply
states that an employee is entitled to representation if the em-
ployee reasonably believes the interview may result in disci-
pline.
On June 27, 1989, arbitrator Carlton J. Snow issued his arbi-
tration decision17 in an arbitration case between the American
Postal Workers Union and Respondent involving the right of an
employee to choose his union representative in a grievance
procedure. Respondent’s reliance on this decision for the
proposition that the arbitrator’s interpretation of the collective-
bargaining agreement establishes that the Union agreed to limit
employee choice of representatives in factfinding investigations
is misplaced. This arbitration decision deals with the right to
choose a union representative in grievance arbitration under
articles 1518 and 17 of the collective-bargaining agreement. It
never mentions the factfinding investigation which is a pre-
grievance procedure not covered by the terms of the collective-
bargaining agreement. Moreover, the arbitrator’s discussion of
Board law involving employee choice of representatives in
Weingarten interviews has been superseded by the Board’s
decisions in Barnard College, 340 NLRB 934, 935 (2003), and
Anheuser–Busch, Inc., 337 NLRB 3 (2001).
Respondent’s acting human resources director, Lerene
Wiley, stated that article 17 of the parties’ collective-bargaining
agreement applies to factfinding investigations based upon her
interpretation of JCAM and the Carlton Snow arbitration deci-
sion. This argument is without merit since article 17, JCAM
and the Snow decision do not refer to fact finding investiga-
tions. Article 17, JCAM and the Snow decision all involve
contractual interpretations of the right to choose representatives
in the parties’ grievance arbitration procedure and have no
bearing on factfinding procedures.
The Board has long held that the waiver of a statutory right
will not be inferred from general contract provision. Rather,
such waivers must be clear and unmistakable. Amoco Chemi-
cal Co., 328 NLRB 1220, 1221–1222 (1999). In the instant
case, it is clear that neither the language of the parties’ collec-
tive-bargaining agreement, nor the JCAM, nor the arbitrator’s
decision establish that the Union has clearly and unmistakably
waived employees’ rights to choose their representative at a
factfinding meeting.
As to Respondent’s request to reconsider my ruling at hear-
ing rejecting Respondent’s Exhibit 11, a settlement of a step 4
grievance between the Postal Service and the APWU, this set-
tlement involves a grievance not a factfinding investigation and
involves an interpretation of article 17 of the collective-

15 R. Exh. 10.
16 GC Exh. 39.
17 R. Exh. 12.
18 R. Exh. 7.
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bargaining agreement relating to representation in the grievance
procedure. It is not relevant to the issues herein.
By changing the established practice of allowing city letter
carriers to choose a representative of choice at factfinding in-
vestigations without notice to or bargaining with the Union,
Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (5) of the Act.
B. The 8(a)(1), (3), and (4) Allegations
Complaint paragraph 6(b) alleges that on about November 3,
2012, Respondent threatened its employee with unspecified
reprisals because they said they would file a charge with the
Board in violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (4) of the Act.
Complaint paragraphs 7(a) and (b) allege that on about
March 1, 2012, Respondent informed employee John Trujillo
that his scheduled leave was canceled because he engaged in
union activities in violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the
Act.
While the complaint was not amended, both in his opening
statement at the hearing and in his brief counsel for the General
Counsel alleges that the revocation of Trujillo’s approved leave
violated not only Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, discussed below
but also Section 8(a)(4) of the Act. At the outset of the hearing
Respondent was apprised that the General Counsel was alleging
that the denial of Trujillo’s leave violated not only Section
8(a)(3), but also 8(a)(4) of the Act. Respondent made no objec-
tion to the General Counsel’s reliance on this additional theory
of a violation. The facts upon which the additional 8(a)(4)
violation are based were set forth in the complaint.
An unpled matter may support an unfair labor practice find-
ing if it is closely connected to the subject matter of the com-
plaint and has been fully litigated. Pergament United Sales,
296 NLRB 333, 334 (1989). The Board has held that, “The
determination of whether a matter has been fully litigated rests
in part on whether . . . the Respondent would have altered the
conduct of its case at the hearing, had a specific allegation been
made.” Postal Service, 352 NLRB 923 (2008).
By stating the additional theory of a violation of Section
8(a)(4) of the Act in his opening statement without objection
from Respondent, the General Counsel put Respondent on no-
tice of this new theory and gave it an opportunity to alter its
defense. The factual matter was fully explored by the parties
concerning Trujillo’s denial of leave. I find that the matter had
been fully litigated and will support findings concerning the
denial of Trujillo’s leave as a violation of Section 8(a)(4) of the
Act.
1. The facts
a. The threat to report Trujillo for filing
unfair labor practice charges
John Trujillo has been employed for 20 years by Respondent
as letter carrier at its main office carrier annex (MOCA) in
downtown Albuquerque, New Mexico. Trujillo has been union
chief shop steward since January 2013 and has been union for-
mal step A designee for the past 17 years.
Trujillo has filed unfair labor practice charges against Re-
spondent with the National Labor Relations Board, including
several charges19 with the Board during the 9 months prior to
March 2012.
On November 3, 2011, Trujillo called Academy Station
Manager Archuleta by phone to discuss grievances and out-
standing information requests. During the call, Trujillo told
Archuleta that Respondent had not provided requested infor-
mation. Trujillo told Archuleta that if Respondent did not pro-
vide the information, Trujillo would be filing an unfair labor
practice charge. Archuleta told Trujillo that he had threatened
her and that she was going to report him for threatening her.
Archuleta testified that she told Trujillo her supervisor said
he was not going to provide Trujillo with requested infor-
mation. Archuleta admitted she said she would check about the
information and get it for Trujillo. Trujillo responded he would
file a charge and Archuleta said that Trujillo should do what he
needed to do and she would do what she needed to do. Trujillo
said if he were her boss he would fire her for not getting the
information. She denied saying that Trujillo had made a threat
or that she would report him for making a threat.
I found that Trujillo’s testimony was made in an open, hon-
est, and forthright manner. His testimony had a quality of be-
lievability. On the other hand, Archuleta’s testimony with re-
spect to the alleged threat was given in a hesitant and tentative
manner, lacking in credibility as far as this observer is con-
cerned. I will credit Trujillo’s version of the facts.
There is no evidence that Archuleta reported Trujillo or that
Trujillo was in any way disciplined.
b. The leave denial
Respondent’s employees must complete a PS Form 3971
when requesting leave. On February 23, 2012, Trujillo com-
pleted a PS Form 397120 requesting leave from March 1, 2012,
to March 4, 2012. In error, Trujillo dated the form February
24, 2012, when he turned the form into his immediate supervi-
sor, Rick Oyer (Oyer), on February 23, 2012. An unidentified
supervisor signed and approved the leave request on February
23, 2012. Trujillo’s leave request was later signed and ap-
proved by Oyer on February 25, 2012.
In early March 2012, J. Trujillo was assigned to the Joint Al-
ternative Route Adjustment Procedure staff (JARAP) working
on route adjustment projects with Respondent’s management.
Since there was still work to be done on the JARAP project,
Trujillo decided to work on one of his days of leave. On March
1, 2012, Trujillo worked at the JARAP office on the second
floor of Respondent’s the main office facility with his man-
agement counterpart, Supervisor Mel Sanchez.
While working in the JARAP office, Trujillo told Sanchez
that since work was light, he was going to take leave on March
2 and 3, 2012. Sanchez asked Trujillo if he had an approved
leave slip and Trujillo said he did. Sanchez asked Trujillo for a
copy of his leave slip. Trujillo told Sanchez that he was invok-
ing his Weingarten rights and that he wanted Union President
Pratt to represent him. Sanchez told Trujillo that this was not
going to lead to discipline. Trujillo told him to put it in writing
which Sanchez did. Then Trujillo showed Sanchez the leave

19 GC Exhs. 19–25.
20 GC Exh. 26.
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slip that had been approved. When Sanchez told Trujillo to
give him the leave slip, Trujillo told Sanchez he would show it
to him but not give it to him. At that time, Sanchez left the
JARAP room.
Manager Lacy came into the room a short time later and
asked Trujillo if he had scheduled leave for Friday and Satur-
day (March 3 and 4, 2012). Trujillo told her that he did. Trujil-
lo told Lacy that he was invoking his Weingarten rights and
wanted Pratt to represent him. Lacy said, “Are you kidding?”
to which Trujillo replied, “No, I am not.” Lacy went to her
office and called Trujillo’s supervisor, Oyer, who said he could
not find Trujillo’s approved leave form. Oyer in fact later
found the approved form. Lacy then said, “Your leave is re-
voked. Return to your duty station.”21
Lacy denied revoking Trujillo’s leave. Further, Respond-
ent’s “Everything Report”22 for Trujillo reflects at the bottom
of page 2 and the top of page 3 a code 55 for both Friday and
Saturday under the heading “Base” which reflects that Trujillo
was paid vacation pay for those days.
Based upon both Lacy’s testimony and the unrebutted docu-
mentary evidence it is clear that Trujillo’s leave was not re-
voked. However, having contacted Oyer and finding that there
was no approved leave slip for Trujillo, it seems unlikely that
Lacy would not have told Trujillo his leave was revoked. That
she would have threatened to revoke his leave is particularly
likely in light of Lacy’s testimony that there were deadlines that
had to be met in the JARAP process in the 2 days that Trujillo
had asked for leave. While I credit Lacy’s testimony that she
did not cancel Trujillo’s leave, I credit Trujillo that she threat-
ened to do so.
2. The analysis
a. The Archuleta threat
An employer who threatens an employee with a reprisal be-
cause he filed or threatens to file charges with the Board vio-
lates Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Postal Service, 351 NLRB 265
(2007); Postal Service, 350 NLRB 125 (2007). Having found
that on November 3, 1011, Respondent’s manager, Rosarita
Archuleta, told employee Trujillo told that that she was going
to report him for threatening her after he said he would be filing
an unfair labor practice charge, Respondent has violated Sec-
tion 8(a)(1) of the Act.
b. The alleged denial of leave to Trujillo
In order to find a violation of Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, the
General Counsel must establish a discriminatee has engaged in
protected union activity, that the employer had knowledge of
this activity, and that the employer carried out the adverse ac-
tion because of the protected activity. Wright Line, 251 NLRB
1083, 1089 (1980), enfd. 662 F.2d 899 (1st Cir. 1981), cert.
denied 455 U.S. 989 (1982).
Similarly, a violation of Section 8(a)(4) of the Act is found
where an employer discriminates against its employee for filing
charges, or for testifying, or for being subpoenaed to testify, at
a Board proceeding. American Garden’s Management Co., 338

21 Tr. at 111, LL. 7–10.
22 R. Exh. 4.
NLRB 644, 645 (2002); Grand Rapids Die Casting Corp., 279
NLRB 662, 664 (1986).
There is no dispute that Trujillo was an active union member
and officer and that this was well known to Respondent. There
is likewise no dispute that Respondent was aware that Trujillo
had filed numerous charges against it with the Board. Re-
spondent also demonstrated its animus toward Trujillo’s pro-
tected activity by threatening him with reprisals for filing
charges and for threatening to cancel his leave. However, there
is no evidence that any adverse employment action was ever
taken against Trujillo. The record reflects that he in fact took
his vacation leave and Respondent took no action against him
for threatening to file charges with the Board.
Since there was no discriminatory action taken by Respond-
ent there is no violation of Section 8(a)(3) or (4) of the Act and
I will recommend that these allegations be dismissed. The
denial of leave has not been alleged as an independent violation
of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
C. The 8(a)(1) Allegations
1. Complaint allegations 6(c)–(e) allege that on about
March 1, 2012, Respondent denied employee John Trujillo’s
request for a union representative during an interview
he reasonably believed would result in discipline
a. The facts
As noted above, on March 1, 2012, while working in the
JARAP office, Trujillo told Respondent’s supervisor, Sanchez,
that since work was light, he was going to take leave on
March 2 and 3, 2012. Sanchez asked Trujillo if he had an ap-
proved leave slip and Trujillo said he did. Sanchez asked Trujil-
lo for a copy of his leave slip. Trujillo told Sanchez that he was
invoking his Weingarten rights and that he wanted Union Pres-
ident Pratt to represent him. Sanchez told Trujillo that this was
not going to lead to discipline. Trujillo told him to put it in
writing which Sanchez did. Then Trujillo showed Sanchez the
leave slip that had been approved. When Sanchez told Trujillo
to give him the leave slip, Trujillo told Sanchez he would show
it to him but not give it to him. At that time, Sanchez left the
JARAP room.
Manager Lacy came into the room a short time later and
asked Trujillo if he had scheduled leave for Friday and Satur-
day (March 3, and 4, 2012). Trujillo told her that he did. Tru-
jillo told Lacy that he was invoking his Weingarten rights and
wanted Pratt to represent him. Lacy said, “Are you kidding?”
to which Trujillo replied, “No, I am not.” Lacy went to her
office and called Trujillo’s supervisor, Oyer, who said he could
not find Trujillo’s approved leave form. Oyer in fact later
found the approved form. Lacy then said, “Your leave is re-
voked. Return to your duty station.”23
As a result of the date error on the leave form, Trujillo was
concerned he was going to be questioned about that discrepan-
cy and that it could involve potential discipline, including ter-
mination.
After Trujillo asserted his Weingarten rights, Manager Lacy
told him that his leave was revoked and that he needed to return
to his duty station. No other questions were asked of Trujillo.

23 Tr. at 111, LL. 7–10.
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b. The analysis
Respondent contends that these facts do not establish a viola-
tion of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act since Trujillo did not reasona-
bly believe the inquiry about his approved leave could result in
discipline. Moreover, any subjective belief he may have had
that the inquiry could result in discipline ended when Sanchez
provide him assurances that his questioning would not lead to
discipline. Further, once Trujillo invoked his Weingarten
rights, Lacy asked no further questions.
In NLRB v. J. Weingarten, 420 U.S. 251 (1975), the Supreme
Court held an employee had the right to union representation at
an interview which the employee reasonably feared may result
in discipline. An employee’s reasonable belief that an inter-
view might result in discipline is measured by an objective
standard that considers all circumstances of the case and not
simply the employee’s subjective motivation. Weingarten,
supra at 257 fn. 5. The right to union representation is trig-
gered when the employee requests representation. Weingarten,
supra at 257.
When an employee makes a request, the employer must ei-
ther grant the request, give the employee the option of going
forward with the interview unrepresented, discontinue the in-
terview, or reject the request and end the interview. Washoe
Medical Center, 348 NLRB 361 fn. 5 (2006) (quoting Consoli-
dated Freightways Corp., 264 NLRB 541, 542 (1982)).
When Respondent’s supervisor, Sanchez, questioned Trujillo
about his leave request and leave form, Trujillo had concerns
that due to the discrepancies in the dates on the leave form
Sanchez’ questions could lead to discipline. Given the discrep-
ancies it was reasonable for Trujillo to believe that there could
be discipline issued to him for fraud. As a result of this con-
cern, J. Trujillo invoked his Weingarten rights to have a union
representative present for any further questioning by Sanchez.
However, Sanchez assured Trujillo in writing that his questions
would not result in discipline before he continued questioning
him. Had the matter gone no further, I believe that no violation
of the Act would have occurred since Trujillo apparently ac-
cepted Sanchez’ assurances, believed no discipline would take
place, and showed him the leave form. However, the matter
did not end there. Having refused to give Sanchez a copy of
the leave form, Sanchez brought his superior, Manager Lacy,
into the inquest. Lacy again took up the questioning asking if
Trujillo had approved leave. When Trujillo said he did, he
again invoked his Weingarten rights and asked for union repre-
sentation. From this point on Lacy asked no further questions
but said she was revoking Trujillo’s leave.
In bringing a new supervisor of greater authority, Lacy, into
the interview and asking Trujillo additional questions, Re-
spondent ratcheted up the seriousness of the interview and ne-
gated Sanchez’ assurances of no discipline. This conduct trig-
gered Respondent’s obligation under Weingarten to honor Tru-
jillo’s earlier request for union representation, give Trujillo the
option of going forward without a representative or stopping
the interview. By continuing the questioning without giving
Trujillo these options, Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act.
2. Complaint paragraph 6(f) alleges that on about March 20,
2012, Respondent threatened its employee that it would
be futile for them to request a union representative
of their choosing in an investigatory interview
a. The facts
As previously discussed, on March 20, 2012, Respondent’s
supervisor, Baldwin, told Union Vice President Martinez that
Respondent needed him to stay for a factfinding interview.
Martinez invoked his Weingarten rights and requested that
formal step A designee Trujillo represent him for the meeting.
Baldwin denied this request and informed Martinez that Airport
Station Steward Mike Gill would be representing him. Mar-
tinez repeatedly told Baldwin that he was invoking his
Weingarten rights and wanted Trujillo to represent him. Bald-
win shrugged his shoulders and told Martinez to stop invoking
his Weingarten rights and that it was futile to continue telling
him that he was violating Martinez’ rights.
Respondent contends that Baldwin was simply expressing
the fact that the Union and Respondent disagreed over whether
employees could select the union representative of their choice
pursuant to article 17 of the collective-bargaining agreement
and was not threatening him.
b. The analysis
An employer that tells employees that their union activities
would be futile has long been held to be a violation of Section
8(a)(1) of the Act. Goya Foods, 347 NLRB 1118, 1128–1129
(2006), enfd. 525 F.3d 1117 (11th Cir. 2008); Wellstream
Corp., 313 NLRB 698, 706 (1994); Altercare of Wadsworth
Center for Rehabilitation & Nursing Care, Inc., 355 NLRB
565, 574 (2010). Similarly, an employer may not tell employ-
ees that it would be futile for them to seek Weingarten rights.
Las Palmas Medical Center, 358 NLRB 460, 471–472 (2012);
Dish Network Service Corp., 339 NLRB 1126, 1128 (2003).
Contrary to Respondent’s contention, there was nothing ob-
jectively in this interchange that suggests Baldwin was express-
ing disagreement with the Union’s interpretation of the collec-
tive-bargaining agreement. The test of a violation of Section
8(a)(1) of the Act is an objective one. A reasonable person
would have understood that Baldwin was not engaging Mar-
tinez in an esoteric discussion of the terms of the collective-
bargaining agreement, but rather was telling him there was no
use in asserting his Weingarten rights to select his union repre-
sentative. In these circumstances, Baldwin unlawfully threat-
ened Martinez in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act, Las
Palmas Medical Center, Dish Network Service Corp., supra.
3. Complaint paragraph 6(g) alleges that on about March 21,
2012, Respondent threatened its employee with discipline
for failing to obey instructions because they invoked
their Weingarten rights
a. The facts
As discussed above, on March 21, 2012, when Supervisor
Platero-Dreyer told city letter carrier Segarra that he was going
to be involved in a factfinding investigation, Segarra invoked
his Weingarten rights and requested Union Steward Woodley to
represent him. Platero-Dreyer told Segarra that he would be
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represented by Union Steward Bill Mallison. When Segara told
Platero-Dreyer that he was invoking his Weingarten rights and
would not be saying anything else, Platero-Dreyer walked away
and returned with Station Manager Jackie Woods. Woods told
Segarra that if he did not cooperate regarding the fact finding
investigation, he would be charged with failure to obey instruc-
tions.
Respondent contends that Woods told Segarra only that he
needed to “cooperate” with Platero-Dryer’s direction to go to a
factfinding investigation not how to answer any questions. As
such, there is no evidence that Woods’ primary motive was to
punish Segarra for protected activity and she did not violate
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
b. The analysis
The Board has found that threats of reprisal to compel an
employee to attend an investigative interview without union
representation violates Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Good Sa-
maritan Nursing Home, 250 NLRB 207 (1980). Here, Woods
threatened Segarra with discipline for failing to obey instruc-
tions if he did not attend the factfinding meeting without his
representative of choice. Respondent’s argument that Woods
merely told Segarra to go to the meeting without requiring him
to answer questions is without merit. Cooperation strongly
suggests answering questions. After all, that is the purpose of a
factfinding investigation. There can be no investigation without
questions being answered. Moreover, since Segarra was enti-
tled to his representative of choice, under Weingarten, Re-
spondent’s choices were limited to giving Segarra his repre-
sentative of choice, giving him the option, without threat of
discipline, to continue with the interview without his chosen
representative or to discontinue the meeting. Having failed to
do so and having threatened Segarra with discipline for failure
to participate in the investigation, Woods’ threat to compel
attendance by Segarra at an investigatory meeting without his
requested union representative violates Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act.
4. Complaint paragraph 6(h) alleges that on about March 21,
2012, Respondent threatened its employee by refusing to
inform them of the nature of investigatory interviews that
they would reasonably believe could result in discipline
a. The facts
As discussed at length above, when Segarra was approached
by Platero-Dreyer on March 21, 2012, about attending a fact-
finding meeting, Segarra asked her why there was going to be a
factfinding meeting with him. Platero-Dreyer did not respond.
In its brief24 Respondent attempts to show that Segarra ad-
mitted knowing that the March 21, 2012 factfinding investiga-
tion was a continuation of the March 19, 2012 factfinding meet-
ing by quoting from Segarra’s affidavit to the Board dated
March 22, 2012. While cross-examining Segarra, counsel for
Respondent purportedly showed Segarra an affidavit to help
refresh his recollection. However, the affidavit was never re-
ceived into the record. After looking at the affidavit on cross-
examination, Segarra reaffirmed that he did not know the pur-

24 R. Posthearing Br. pp. 9 and 25–26.
pose of the March 21, 2012 factfinding investigation. I will not
consider the substance of the affidavit inappropriately cited in
Respondent’s brief.
b. The analysis
The Board has held that an employer, upon request, must in-
form an employee and the employee’s union representative of
the specific charges that are to be discussed during a
Weingarten investigatory interview. Postal Service, 345 NLRB
426, 436 (2005). This is so because Weingarten rights encom-
pass the right to a meaningful consultation with the union rep-
resentative prior to an investigatory interview. Postal Service,
303 NLRB 463 fn. 4 (1991); Climax Molybdenum Co., 227
NLRB 1189, 1190 (1977). In explaining why an employee
must know the nature of the issues in the investigatory inter-
view, the Board in Colgate-Palmolive Co., 257 NLRB 130, 133
(1981) noted:
Nothing in the rationale of Weingarten suggests that, in its
endorsement of the role of “knowledgeable union representa-
tive” the Supreme Court meant to put blinders on the union
representative by denying him the opportunity of learning the
facts by consultation with the employee prior to the investiga-
tory-disciplinary interview. Knowledgeably implies the very
opposite. The right to representation clearly embraces the
right to prior consultation.
When Platero-Dryer did not respond or answer Segarra’s in-
quiry about what the March 21, 2012 factfinding meeting was
about, Segarra was unable to meaningfully consult with his
representative about the charges he faced. This conduct vio-
lates Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Postal Service, supra.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. The United States Postal Service is now, and at all times
herein, has been an employer engaged in commerce within the
meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act.
2. National Association of Letter Carriers, Sunshine Branch
504, affiliated with the National Association of Letter Carriers,
AFL–CIO is a labor organization within the meaning of Section
2(5) of the Act.
3. By threatening employees with unspecified reprisals be-
cause they threatened to file a charge with the National Labor
Relations Board, Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act.
4. By denying John Trujillo’s request for union representa-
tion during a discussion that he reasonably believed might re-
sult in discipline, Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act.
5. By threatening employees that it would be futile to re-
quest a union representative of their choosing to represent them
in an investigatory interview. Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act.
6. By threatening employees with discipline for failing to
obey instructions because they invoked their Weingarten rights,
Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
7. By refusing to inform employees of the nature of an in-
vestigatory interview, Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act.
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8. By changing its past practice at is Airport and North Val-
ley stations in Albuquerque, New Mexico, of providing em-
ployees a union representative of their choosing at factfinding
investigatory interviews without giving notice to or bargaining
with the Union, Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (5) of
the Act.
9. All other allegations in the complaint are dismissed.
REMEDY
Having found that the Respondent has engaged in certain un-
fair labor practices, I shall order it to cease and desist therefrom
and to take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the
policies of the Act.
The Respondent having unilaterally changed the practice of
providing its employees with a representative of their choosing
in factfinding investigative interviews without notice to or bar-
gaining with the Union must upon request of the Union rescind
such rule change and restore the practice of providing city letter
carriers with a union representative of their own choosing and
before changing this practice, notify and bargain with the Un-
ion about any decision to make such change and the effects of
such change to agreement or a good-faith impasse.
[Recommended Order omitted from publication.]