Smitty's Foods, Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJan 16, 1973201 N.L.R.B. 283 (N.L.R.B. 1973) Copy Citation SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. 283 Smitty's Foods, Inc. and Retail Clerks Union # 25, Retail Clerks International Association, AFL_ CIO. Cases 25-CA-4560 and 25-CA-4663 January 16, 1973 DECISION AND ORDER BY CHAIRMAN MILLER AND MEMBERS FANNING AND PENELLO On August 22, 1972, Administrative Law Judge David S. Davidson issued the attached Decision in this proceeding. Thereafter, the Respondent and the Charging Party filed exceptions and supporting briefs. The General Counsel filed limited exceptions and a supporting brief, and the Respondent filed a brief in answer to the exceptions filed by the Charging Party and the General Counsel. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel. The Board has considered the record and the attached Decision in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings, and conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge and to adopt his recommended Order.' reprisals on various dates between September 18 and October 7 , 1971,1 discriminatorily discharged John D. Wagoner on September 19 and Linda Gick on September 28, and refused to bargain with the Union as the exclusive representative of Respondent 's employees on and after September 29. On December 2, the charge in Case 25-CA-4663 was filed by the Union, and on January 18, 1972, a complaint issued alleging that Respondent had discriminatonly discharged Edwin Rihn on October 11, and Eugene Matusz on November 6. The two complaints were consolidated for purposes of hearing and decision . Respon- dent filed answers denying the commission of any unfair labor practices. Prior to the hearing and at the hearing the complaint in Case 25-CA-4560 was amended to allege September 28 and 30 and October 4 as additional dates on which Respondent refused to bargain and to add further allegations of threats and interrogation . Respondent denied the allegations in the amendments. A hearing was held before me in Lafayette, Indiana, on February 22, 23, 24, and 29 and March 1, 1972. At the conclusion of the hearing the parties waived oral argument and were given leave to file briefs which have been received from the General Counsel and Respondent. Upon the entire record in this case and from my observation of the witnesses and their demeanor, I make the following: FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board adopts as its Order the recommend- ed Order of the Administrative Law Judge and hereby orders that Respondent, Smitty's Foods, Inc., West Lafayette, Indiana, its officers, agents, succes- sors, and assigns, shall take the action set forth in the said recommended Order. 1 The General Counsel and the Respondent have excepted to certain credibility findings made by the Administrative Law Judge . It is the Board's established policy not to overrule an Administrative Law Judge's resolu- tions with respect to credibility unless the clear preponderance of all of the relevant evidence convinces us that the resolutions were incorrect . Standard Dry Wall Products, Inc., 91 NLRB 544, enfd. 188 F.2d 362 (C A. 3). We have carefully examined the record and find no basis for reversing his findings TRIAL EXAMINER'S DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE DAVID S . DAVIDSON , Trial Examiner : On October 4, 1971, the charge in Case 25-CA-4560 was filed by Retail Clerks Union #25, Retail Clerks International Associa- tion , AFL-CIO, hereinafter called the Union . On Novem- ber 30, 1971, a complaint issued alleging that Respondent interrogated its employees and threatened them with I All dates which follow occurred in 1971, unless otherwise indicated 1. BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT Respondent is an Indiana corporation engaged in the retail sale of groceries and allied products at a single location in West Lafayette, Indiana. During the 12 months prior to the issuance of the complaint, a representative period, Respondent sold and distributed products having gross value in excess of $500,000. During that period Respondent received goods having value in excess of $50,000 which were transported to its place of business from points outside the State of Indiana. I find that Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce and that it will effectuate the policies of the Act to assert jurisdiction herein. II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of the Act. III. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. Introduction Respondent operates a single retail grocery store at West Lafayette, Indiana. Respondent is solely owned by Mrs. Georgina Smith and the store is managed by Gilbert Amato, brother of Mrs. Smith. Mary Tucker is bookkeeper and supervisor of cashiers and Francis Hoefer is grocery manager. Amato, Tucker, and Hoefer are conceded to be 201 NLRB No. 47 284 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD supervisors within the meaning of the Act. Respondent's store employs a normal complement of employees, including cashiers, sacker-stock boys, meat department employees, delicatessen employees, produce department employees, a meat manager, a produce manager, a dairy manager, and a frozen foods manager. In mid-September, the Union started an organizing campaign among Respondent 's employees . Between then and September 30 it obtained signed authorization cards from a number of employees. On or about September 28, 29, and 30, the Union made oral and telegraphic requests for recognition, which were rejected by Respondent. In addition to factual and conclusionary issues relating to the four alleged discriminatory discharges and the alleged threats and interrogation, also at issue are the supervisory status of Produce Manager Marvin Davis,2 the eligibility of certain part-time sacker-stock boys for inclusion in the appropriate unit , the Union's alleged majority, the adequacy of the Union' s demands for recognition , and the lawfulness of Respondent 's refusal to bargain with the Union in the light of N.L.R.B. v. Gissel Packing Company, 395 U.S. 575. The evidence contains numerous conflicts in testimony relating to the alleged violations of Section 8(a)(1) and (3). In support of these allegations the General Counsel relied on the testimony of the alleged discriminatees, three former employees,3 and three who were still employed at the time of the hearing.4 Respondent relied on the testimony of Store Manager Gilbert Amato, Grocery Manager Francis Hoefer, Office Manager Mary Tucker, Produce Manager Marvin Davis, Owner Georgina Smith, employee Kevin Hart, and cashiers Ruth Leclitner and Wanda Westfall. As in most cases, resolution of the credibility issues is not a simple matter, and the testimony of each witness must be evaluated both standing alone and in its relation to the record as a whole. One cannot readily conclude that all the testimony for one side is either credible or unworthy of belief. Indeed, it appears that with respect to individual witnesses , some discrimination is required to separate out those portions of their testimony which are worthy of belief from those which are not. I have attempted to be thorough in my consideration of these issues and to set forth below the reasons which lead me to the conclusions I have reached, although it is not always easy to articulate in toto all of the interrelated considerations which contribute to credibility resolutions. As will be seen, a number of statements were attributed to Amato, Hoefer, and Tucker by the various witnesses for the General Counsel. Some of this testimony I have discounted because others who appeared as witnesses and were in a position to corroborate testimony did not do so. Some of this testimony I have discounted because of internal deficiencies . But I am not persuaded that all the witnesses who testified to these statements were fabricating their testimony or were inaccurate in their perceptions or recollection. In particular, both Guard and Mary McNeely 2 This issue bears on Respondent's responsibility for certain conduct attributed to Davis as well as the composition of the appropriate unit 3 Patrice Murphy , John Durajczyk , and Carl Robert Reagan • Kevin Hart , Pat Guard , and Mary McNeely 5 Also significantly bearing on my assessment of Tucker's credibility is were still employed at the time of the hearing and had clear interests as continuing employees not to misstate facts before their supervisors for whom they continued to work. I am persuaded that both were substantially truthful and accurate in their testimony. In reaching these conclusions, I have considered the denials of Respondent 's principal witnesses , Amato, Hoefer, and Tucker, of statements and conduct attributed to them. If they are to be believed, none of them questioned any employee about the union activities and with the exception of one statement by Tucker on September 28 at an employee meeting and a later statement by Hoefer to Rihn, none of them threatened any reprisals. Indeed, if they are to be believed, Hoefer did not even become aware of the union campaign until September 28, and Tucker did not even talk to Amato about the Union except on one occasion when she asked Amato to point out a union representative in the store . While I credit these witnesses in part , I am satisfied that much of their testimony is overstated, shaded, and lacking in candor. It is clear that from September 22 on , union representa- tives frequently appeared in the store and on the parking lot to the displeasure of Amato who viewed them, with some cause, as bothering employees while at work. Linda Gick , much of whose testimony is in issue , testified without contradiction that, when union representatives appeared in the store, Tucker called other supervisors to the front of the store and that one of them followed the union representa- tives around the store. Tucker concededly sought to stop employee Reagin from soliciting in the store and to confine his activities to the parking lot and off-duty employees. Although both Tucker and Amato told employees that the September 28 employee meeting had nothing to do with the Union, one would have to be naive to view a meeting at that time at which a statement of store employment policy was read as anything but a response to the Union's organizing campaign . It is incredible that all these things happened in the absence of discussion of the Union between Tucker and Amato, and I find her contrary testimony unworthy of belief and lacking in candor.5 In the case of Hoefer , his testimonial deficiencies are even more glaring . Hoefer denied any knowledge of the union activities until the day of the employee meeting, despite the frequent presence of union organizers in the store. When asked how he learned on that day that the Union was organizing, Hoefer first indicated that the meeting was about the union organizers , then denied that it was, and then stated that he had seen three men on the parking lot on the previous night who he assumed were union organizers . When asked why he assumed that, he testified "they just looked like them, that's all ." He denied having heard any talk about the Union in the store or having discussed the Union with Tucker or Amato. When asked again on what he based his assumption he replied, "Something, that's all." Moreover , despite Hoefer's insistence that he did not learn of the Union until September 28, when asked her testimony relating to her handling of Hart 's withdrawal letter and return receipt which is in conflict with Hart 's testimony and portrays total lack of concern over the contents of these documents when he asked her to keep them for him in the store safe SMITTY'S FOODS , INC. 285 whether during the previous week Wagoner twice asked him if the Union had something to do with his discharge and whether he admitted that it did as described in more detail below, Hoefer weakly denied what Wagoner had attributed to him, and pleaded lack of recollection. Surely, if Hoefer knew nothing about the Union until September 28, he should have had no difficulty in recalling that he had no conversation with Wagoner about the Union before that date. I find Hoefer's denial of knowledge of the union activities before September 28 and his denial of communi- cation with Amato and Tucker about them patently lacking in candor and incredible. The deficiencies in Amato's testimony are less glaring, but also present. I am struck by the number of times in his testimony when called as an adverse witness by the General Counsel that he pleaded lack of recollection of various events, some of which he later testified to when recalled as a witness by Respondent. I have also noted some inconsistencies in his testimony as to his own observation of union activity in the store and his response to it. As I have noted, these observations do not mean that I have uniformly discredited the testimony of these witness- es. Indeed, I have not. But I do not accept the basic premises of their testimony as to their awareness , concern, and response to the union activities in the store. B. The Alleged Supervisory Status of Marvin Davis The complaint, as amended, alleges that Marvin Davis, manager of the produce department, is a supervisor. Respondent contends that he is not. The admitted supervisors at the store are paid on a salaried basis. The remaining employees, including Davis and other department managers, are hourly paid and punch a timeclock. Apart from the meat department manager whose status is not at issue herein,6 it is agreed that the other department managers are not supervisors and should be included in the appropriate unit. Davis' duties consist basically of two parts, those performed by him in the produce department and those performed by him throughout the store at times when no salaried supervisor is present. It is the latter part of his duties from which the General Counsel contends Davis' supervisory status arises and upon which this discussion therefore focuses. Respondent's store is open weekdays from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., and Sundays from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. On Monday and Wednesday from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. and on alternate Sundays no salaried supervisor is present at the store. Davis works each of those evenings and every fourth Sunday. Meat Department Manager Adwell works on the other alternate Sunday when no salaried supervisor is present. Thus, Davis is at the store approximately 6 hours each week and an additional Sunday every fourth week without higher supervision present.? Davis has a key to the store and is responsible for locking the safe and the store at closing time on these occasions. Usually approximately 10 other employees work at the store with Davis during the evening hours , including cashiers , sacker-stock boys , a delicatessen employee, a produce employee, a meat department employee, and an employee responsible for the frozen food and dairy departments. On Mondays and Wednesdays the store receives deliver- ies of grocery products, and there usually is merchandise to be placed on the shelves during the evening hours . Before leaving on those days at 6 p.m. Amato or Hoefer tells Davis what needs to be done during the evening hours. They also instruct the sacker-stock boys as to what they are expected to do during the evening. Davis has been told that he is to see to it that the work is done and that everyone is kept busy. Two of the employees who work nights are older than most of the sacker-stock boys and have also been told by Amato to keep an eye on the younger boys to see that they keep at work and out of mischief. During the evening hours Davis roams through the store, straightens shelves , and sees that everything is running right. At times Davis also stocks shelves or goes to the produce department to trim produce or relieve the part- time employee who weighs produce for customers. If business is slow and sackers have nothing to do at the front of the store, Davis tells them to go to the back of the store and stock shelves. On Monday nights Ruth Leclitner, who is known as the head cashier, works and she may also send sackers to the rear of the store to stock shelves. If additional sackers are needed at the front of the store either Davis or the cashiers call them forward on the store intercom and they are expected to respond. If during the course of the evening there is not enough work to keep all the sacker-stock boys busy, Davis has standing instructions to send excess help home . On these occasions Davis seeks volunteers who want to leave early and usually finds them. He does not send anyone home involuntarily. On occasion employees ask to be released early, and Davis grants their requests if they are not needed. Otherwise he does not. Davis has similar authority to send cashiers home if they are not busy, and Leclitner has the same authority on Monday nights. On most evenings Amato telephones the store between 7 and 8 p.m. to ask how things are going. On these occasions Amato discusses with Davis whether employees should be sent home. On nights when Amato does not call Davis exercises his own judgment. No one has ever asked Davis to be released because of an emergency or injury, but Davis testified that if an employee were injured, he would take him to the hospital and would also call Amato to tell him about it. If other kinds of emergencies, such as equipment failures apse, Davis calls Amato to discuss with him what should be done. On Monday nights Ruth Leclitner has access to the office and the safe and takes care of most of the cashiers' needs. On some Wednesdays Laurie Smith, daughter of the owner, works as a cashier and has similar access to the office and safe . However, when Leclitner or Smith are busy 6 It is agreed that the meat department employees should be excluded r There is evidence that Davis also works some Saturday evenings in from the appropriate unit . There were two prior elections held among the place of Hoefer who usually works on that night. The evidence also meat department employees , the most recent in June 1971. The meat indicates that on those Saturdays he performs the same duties as on department manager voted in both elections , but his supervisory status was Monday and Wednesday nights . The record does not indicate how not litigated and the Charging Party was not involved in those elections frequently he works on Saturday night. 286 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD or are not present, Davis obtains change for the cashiers from the safe and sees that money is put in the safe before closing up. During the evening hours , if Davis encounters employees doing anything improper, he instructs them to stop it. His instructions have never been defied . In some instances Davis reports incidents to Amato on the following morning, but Davis does not send employees home or otherwise discipline them. Leclitner does likewise with respect to cashiers and sackers when she is at the store on Monday evenings. Davis has no authority to hire or fire employees.8 If anyone asks him about employment, he takes the name and address and gives it to Hoefer the next day .9 Davis also has no authority to promote or grant increases to employees , but before promoting or giving a wage increase to any employee Amato asks the manager of the depart- ment in which the employee works his opinion as to how the employee is working. Insofar as the record shows Davis' duties and authority on the Sundays that he works are the same as on the week nights when he works without other supervision present.10 Every fourth Sunday when Meat Department Manager Adwell works, he apparently has the same authority as Davis. Davis is paid $2.75 an hour. Several employees in the meat department, including Adwell, are paid at a higher hourly rate than Davis and one grocery department employee, Arthur Davis, receives the same rate of pay as Marvin Davis. Five other employees are paid from $2.50 to $2.70 an hour including Leclitner who is paid $2.50 an hour. Although Davis was hesitant to concede that he is in charge of the store on nights and Sundays that he works, it is apparent that he is in charge of all or a portion of the store at these times, and several employees testified that they considered Davis the boss when he is in charge of the store. t i There is little doubt that at these times Davis has authority to direct employees in their work, to move employees from one task to another , and to release employees from work early under the circumstances described above. However, Leclitner has similar authority with respect to cashiers and sackers on the one night a week when she works with Davis, and there is no evidence that Davis had authority to hire, discharge, promote, discipline, or otherwise affect employee status at any time . 12 Excluding the occasional Saturday nights when Davis worked, it appears that he was in charge on an average of 8 hours a week or less than 20 percent of the time he worked.13 a Although Carl Robert Reagin testified that Tucker once told Davis to fire him , as set forth more fully below. I do not credit Reagin 's testimony in that regard 9 Davis so testified Eugene Matusz testified that Davis interviewed a student for employment after Carl Reagin quit . However, there is no other evidence that Davis participated in hiring employees other than to the extent that Davis testified I find that Davis' interview at most amounted to obtaining for Hoefer the information which Davis described iu Davis testified that he is there on Sundays "to see that nothing happens" and that in case "something happens" Amato wants someone there who knows what to do to get it corrected 11 Thomas Higbee, Mary K McNeely, and Warts Cowlas McNeely testified that when she was told she would work Wednesday nights she I conclude that Davis' authority to direct employees and release them early if business was slow did not amount to authority responsibly to direct employees but consisted of routine direction comparable to that exercised by a nonsupervisory leadman . In transferring employees Davis in the main moved them between two regularly assigned functions of sacking and stocking , and Hoefer or Amato regularly instructed the employees as to what they were to stock each day before they left. Although Davis could release employees from work early, he only sent home volunteers , he only did so when business was slow, and he usually communicated with Amato by telephone and discussed whether employees should be asked to go home before sending them home. With respect to cashiers and sackers , Davis' authority was shared to some extent with Leclitner who is concededly not a supervisor. I find that Davis was not a supervisor within the meaning of the Act.14 C. The Beginning of the Union Organizing Campaign The union organizing campaign at Respondent store started in mid-September 1971. From September 13 through September 17, six employees signed union authori- zation cards. Two of them, Mary McNeely and Kevin Hart, signed cards away from the store. Linda Gick, who signed a card on September 15 at home, was given the card by McNeely at the store and returned it to Union Representative Ronald Gross at the store the next day. On that day Gick gave blank cards to cashiers Pat Guard and Patrice Murphy at the store. They signed them in the breakroom and ladies' room, respectively, and returned them to Gick. The record does not indicate where the sixth employee , Reagin , was solicited or signed his card. On Sunday, September 19, Hoefer telephoned John D. Wagoner at home and told him that he was discharged. On the following morning Wagoner came to the store and spoke with Amato, Hoefer, and Mary Tucker about the reasons for his discharge. Wagoner concededly asked Tucker if his discharge was caused by the union activity at the store and mentioned that she might not have been aware of it but that he was sure that Amato was. Although Respondent denies that Amato, Hoefer, or Tucker had earlier knowledge of the union activity, it is conceded that Tucker and Amato were aware of it from this time forward. asked Mary Tucker who was in charge , and Tucker told her that Davis was and that if she needed anything to ask Davis However , Linda Gick testified that to her knowledge Davis was not a supervisor i2 Although Eugene Matusz testified that Davis told him he could schedule his working hours around his school schedule , there is no evidence that Davis scheduled work for Matusz or any other employee. I do not credit Matusz in this regard i3 The evidence indicates that Davis consistently worked substantially an excess of 40 hours a week 14 Metcalfe Inc, d/b/a Sentry Food Store, 184 NLRB No 40. Buckeye Village Market, Inc, 175 NLRB 271. 273. The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company, 132 NLRB 799, 801. SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. D. The Alleged Violations of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act and Related Events 1. On September 20, the morning that Wagoner spoke to Tucker about the union activity, Mary Tucker asked cashier Pat Guard if she knew anything about the Union. Guard replied that she did not, and Tucker said "someone has started this and I wish they hadn't as we are going to have to cut help." Later in the day, Tucker told Guard that if the Union got in, Gloria Smith would work days and Linda Gick would work nights. Guard asked if she would be laid off. Tucker said she would, and Guard said that she might as well start looking for another job.15 I find that the threat of a general cut in help and the later threat that Guard would be laid off violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. I also find that the interrogation of Guard in these circumstances was coercive and violated Section 8(a)(1). 2. On September 22, union representatives started visiting the store on a regular basis several times a day. Also on September 22, Harry McNeely, husband of cashier Mary McNeely appeared on the parking lot to hand out leaflets, and he reappeared to do so at other times thereaf ter. On September 22, Respondent became aware of the presence of the union representatives in the store and of McNeely's presence on the parking lot. During the next several days, Amato spoke with Union Representative Stone in the store on a number of occasions. It is clear that Amato objected to Stone's presence in the store and accused him of harassing employees while at work. Although Amato denied threatening Stone with legal action or arrest, I credit Stone that Amato made such threats. 16 3. On the night of September 22, Marvin Davis spoke to Mary McNeely about the presence of the union representatives and her husband on the parking lot. According to Mary McNeely during the course of the evening Davis asked McNeely if she was interested in getting the Union in and if she was going to help organize the store. She testified that, in response to the last question, she told Davis she was interested in getting more money, and Davis said it would not help her make more money because they would not get overtime.17 However, as I have found that Davis is not a supervisor, I find no violation of the Act in this interrogation. 4. Starting on September 22, the union representatives held several meetings with employees at various locations. There is no indication that Respondent was aware of any of these meetings , except for one held on the night of September 23 at a restaurant not far from Respondent's store. It is conceded that during that meeting, Amato came to the gas station next door, where he regularly traded, and noticed the group in the restaurant. There is no contention that Amato's visit was more than coincidental or constitut- 15 As indicated above , I have credited Guard as to this incident. 16 1 note in this connection that Amato was inconsistent in his testimony as to whether he threatened to take legal action , and testified that Stone at one point told him he had been in jail before , a statement likely to have been prompted by a threat to have Stone arrested . These threats do not appear to be alleged as violations of Sec. 8(ax1) of the Act. 17 McNeely placed this conversation in the previous week . However, 287 ed surveillance, but it is contended that Amato became aware of the identities of those present, including Linda Gick, Edwin Rihn, and Eugene Matusz, alleged as discriminatees in the complaint.18 Amato testified that he recognized only a union representative, to whom he waved, and Maguire among those present. I do not credit Amato in this regard. His affidavit given during the investigation of this case states that he saw a number of employees in, the restaurant, and Matusz testified, without contradiction; that while Amato's car was being serviced he walked toward the back of the gas station driveway and looked toward the restaurant, indicating that Amato took more than a casual glance and was in a position to recognize the employees at the meeting. In any event, there is additional evidence that Respondent was aware of the union activities of the alleged discriminatees before their terminations. 5. On or about September 24 Edwin Rihn had a conversation with Amato in a small room next to Amato's office in the basement of the store. A policeman, who raises apples and sells them to the store, was in Amato's office when Rihn entered the office. The versions of Amato and Rihn as to what was said are in sharp conflict. The gist of Rihn's testimony is that Amato asked him if he was for the Union and told him that if he signed an authorization card there would be layoffs, possibly affecting him, a reduction in his hours, and the elimination of overtime. According to Rihn at the end of their conversation Mary Tucker entered, Amato told her to ask Rihn if he had any questions about the Union, and she asked him if he was for the Union and said essentially the same things Amato did. According to Rihn, he left with Tucker and went upstairs with her where he heard her ask Reagin if he was interested in the Union. Amato testified that Rihn came to his office and asked to talk to him, and that he took Rihn into the small side room for privacy, where Rihn told him he wanted to get away from the Union and asked Amato what he could do to help him. According to Amato, he replied that there was nothing he could do personally and that Rihn would have to do it himself, either by going to the Union in person or sending a registered letter asking for his card back. He testified that nothing more was said and denied Rihn's version of their conversation. Tucker was not questioned specifically about this incident but denied interrogating any employee. Although there is some basis to doubt that the conversa- tion was quite as innocuous as described by Amato, I do not credit Rihn as to this conversation. Rihn testified initially that the conversation took place in the presence of the police officer and later Mary Tucker as well in Amato's office to which Amato called him as he was walking to the breakroom. However, on rebuttal he testified that Amato called him to his office and their conversation took place in a "little cubby hole" used for painting signs two steps around the corner from Amato's office. He testified that McNeely conceded a poor memory as to dates, and her estimates appear to be about a week off as to several incidents . I find that this conversation occurred at the time her husband first appeared on the parking lot However. I find her testimony otherwise credible. iX Mary McNeely, Carl Reagan , Pat Guard, Mike Bogon , Hal Kline, and Dan Maguire were also present as were several union representatives 288 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the policeman stood next to him and Mary Tucker later entered. Yet if Amato called Rihn to his office and did not wish to conduct a private conversation with Rihn, it is difficult to understand why three people went into a cubby hole to talk instead of staying in Amato's office. The locale of the conversation gives support to Amato's version of how it started. In addition, when Rihn was asked on cross- examination whether he ever asked Amato how he could get out of the Union, Rihn answered first "I don't believe I did," then that he did not recall , and finally, "I'll say, no, completely." Although Rihn thereafter adhered to a firm denial, his initial responses show uncertainty as to a matter he should have had little doubt about. Moreover, in Rihn's initial version, he testified that Amato said he didn't know whether Rihn signed an authorization card and then said if Rihn signed an authorization card it would mean the layoff of employees. Yet on rebuttal he testified that he did not recall his authorization card coming up in the discussion. Finally, although Reagin appeared as a witness for the General Counsel, he was not asked about Tucker's alleged interrogation of him described by Rihn. In these circum- stances and in the light of my findings below relating to Rihn's testimony concerning his discharge, I do not credit Rihn as to these events. Rihn testified that 3 or 4 days after Amato spoke to him in the sign room, Amato talked to him and Matusz in the stockroom. Matusz and Amato were not questioned about this conversation, but even if Rihn were credited, nothing in it appeared to constitute interrogation or a threat. Rihn testified that on another occasion when he was alone in the stockroom Amato said he could not understand why Rihn was for the Union and if he was and the Union got in his hours would be cut with a possible layoff. According to Rihn, Amato said that if Rihn thought that things were rough around there then, they would get a lot rougher if the Union did get in. Amato denied making these statements. As between Rihn and Amato, I have credited Amato. 6. On Saturday morning, September 25, while Linda Gick was at her cash register Hoefer asked her who the men were she was talking to the previous night.19 She asked why. He said that they looked like union representa- tives. She said that they were. Hoefer asked her if she had signed a card, and she said that she had. Hoefer asked her if she knew what she was getting into, and she replied by asking Hoefer if he knew what he was getting into. Hoefer turned and walked away.20 I find that Hoefer's interroga- tion of Gick violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. 7. On one occasion before September 28 Mary McNee- ly heard Hoefer ask Tucker who a new cashier was,21 and Tucker replied that they had a new cashier and were going to have more, because Amato had said to get rid of the old ones. McNeely laughed and asked if that meant her. 19 Hoefer had observed Gick in the store parking lot the night before when she was talking with union representatives 20 These findings are based on the credited testimony of Linda Gick. corroborated in part by Mary McNeely who overheard a portion of the conversation McNeely placed the incident a week earlier than Gick, but as noted above appears to have been in error as to a number of dates There are additional allegations of violation of Sec 8(a)(1) based on the testimony of Gick relating to statements made to her by Tucker. As this testimony is closely related to the circumstances surrounding her discharge, it is considered below in connection with her discharge Tucker said yes. McNeely asked why, and Tucker said that the only thing that Amato had ever said about her was that her husband worked at a competing store. McNeely said that Amato had known that for at least 6 months.22 Tucker did not mention the Union in her remarks to Hoefer or to McNeely. However, Tucker gave no reason for her statement that they were going to have to get rid of old cashiers, and with specific reference to McNeely suggested as a reason for her possible discharge only the employment of Harry McNeely, who was then actively assisting in the union organizing campaign . Bearing in mind the similarily of Tucker's remarks to Hoefer and McNeely to those addressed to Guard, I find that Tucker meant to convey that the cashiers would be fired because of the Union. I find that these statements violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. 8. Eugene Matusz testified to two incidents on Mon- day, September 27, involving Produce Manager Marvin Davis. According to Matusz, on one occasion Matusz was touring the store with Union Representative Stone. Matusz testified that Davis followed them and told Matusz to watch his step. Stone was not questioned about this incident , and Davis denied that he ever saw Matusz in the store with a union representative . In the absence of corroboration from Stone and in the face of Davis' denial, I do not credit Matusz as to this incident. Matusz also testified that, at a time when he and Reagin had union authorization cards visible in their shirt pockets, he heard Davis tell Reagin that if he did not watch his step and if he tried to get people to sign cards he would lose his job. Reagin was not asked about this incident. As the alleged threat was directed at Reagin, I do not credit Matusz' uncorroborated testimony. 9. John Durajczyk who worked for Respondent only 2 weeks testified that on one occasion shortly after Septem- ber 25, he heard Davis threaten to fire or reduce the hours of another employee if he saw his union card. According to Durajczyk the employee then gave his cards to Davis and said nothing. Durajczyk did not identify the employee and his testimony was not corroborated by the employee to whom the threat was allegedly made. There is no evidence to indicate the identity of the employee to whom Durajczyk referred, other than possibly Reagin, and Davis was cross-examined as to this incident on the assumption that Durajczyk was referring to Reagin. Davis denied that he threatened any employee or ever had a union card in his hand. I do not credit Durajczyk. Durajczyk also testified that he overheard Tucker tell Leclitner23 that the boys would be doing themselves an injustice if they signed cards. Only after he was shown his affidavit to refresh his recollection did he add that Tucker also said that it would endanger their working hours or their jobs. Tucker generally denied making such state- 21 There was a new cashier at work that morning. The exhibits show that Sharon Bergstrom was employed on September 22, which was during the period in which McNeely placed this conversation and a day or two after Tucker's conversation with Guard 22 1 have credited McNeely as to this incident Hoefer was not asked about his conversation with Tucker, and I have not credited Tucker's denials 23 Durajczyk did not identify Leclitner by name , but it is clear from his physical description and the register at which she was working that Durajczyk was referring to Leclitner. SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. ments, and Leclitner testified she never heard Tucker talk to Amato or Hoefer or any employee about the Union. While I do not credit Tucker's general denial and am inclined to doubt Leclitner's sweeping disclaimer as well, in view of the fact that Durajczyk was not a party to this conversation and could not give his brief testimony without having his recollection refreshed, I credit Durajc- zyk only as to that portion of which he initially recalled. I find no violation in this incident. 10. On the morning of September 28, Linda Gick was discharged in circumstances described below. Also on that morning Carl Reagin came to the store while off duty and stood near Mary McNeely's cash register with authoriza- tion cards and sample contracts which the Union had given him to pass out. Mary Tucker told him over the store intercom to stop bothering the cashier. Thereafter Reagin went to the produce department where he offered a contract to an employee who was at work. Shortly thereafter, according to Reagin, Tucker and Marvin Davis approached him, and Tucker told Davis that Reagin had been passing out cards and contracts and to fire him. Reagin testified that Davis told him he was through. According to Tucker, she merely told Reagin not to bother personnel while they were on duty and to go to the parking lot where he could talk to employees on their own time. According to Davis, he asked Reagin why he was in the store so early, Reagin said he was passing out union cards, and Davis told him that he would get himself into a mess of trouble if he did not quit. Both Tucker and Davis denied Reagin's version of the incident. I do not credit Reagin. It is clear that Respondent was disturbed by solicitation of employees during working time, but the evidence is not persuasive that Reagin was fired by Davis or anyone else at that time. Reagin concededly reported for work at 3 p.m., his normal starting time. Although the General Counsel's brief states that the Union got Reagin's job back, there is no evidence to support that assertion. Rather, Reagin testified that union representatives merely advised him to report at his normal starting time, and he did so. Moreover, when Reagin was asked if Tucker told him to go out on the parking lot if he wanted to pass out contracts or cards, he replied that he did not remember and that she might have. He next testified that there was no discussion of the parking lot at that time, and finally testified that he was not denying that there was. In these circumstances, I credit Tucker and Davis. As Reagin concededly was attempting to distribute contracts and cards to employees while at work, I find no violation of Section 8(a)(1) in Tucker's instructions to him to stop bothering employees and to go to the parking lot to talk to employees on their own time. Later that day, Reagin reported to the store at his usual starting time, spoke first with Davis, and then spoke with Davis and Amato. Reagin asked if he could tape record the employee meeting which was scheduled to be held that night at the store by Amato. Amato said that he did not tape Reagin's meetings with the Union and that Reagin 24 The complaint does not allege any violation of Sec. 8(a)(3) based on Reagin 's alleged discharge by Davis or his alleged reduction of hours by Amato. 25 Murphy placed this incident around October I, but it is clear that she was referring to the incident involving Reagin described above 289 could not tape Amato's meeting. According to Reagin, Amato then told him he would have a new work schedule reducing his hours from 40 to 18 a week. Reagin testified that he told Amato that he should forget it and that he quit. According to Amato, he said something to Reagin about passing out cards in the store when others were on duty, and Reagin became angry and quit. According to Davis, when Amato denied Reagin permission to tape record the meeting, Reagin became angry and quit. Lacking confidence in Reagin's testimony as to his earlier encounter with Tucker and Davis that morning, I also do not credit Reagin's testimony as to his conversation with Amato and Davis.24 11. On September 28, Patrice Murphy was standing near the office when she heard Tucker tell Reagin to get away from the cashiers.25 Then Tucker turned to her and said, "He's trying to get them to sign union cards, don't get involved with the Union; if you do sign a union card, and the Union gets in , you will probably be fired, being low in the seniority list, and the Union does not care about that." Tucker then said, "You haven't signed a union card, have you." Murphy did not reply, and Tucker said, "Don't sign one." Murphy backed away and went back to her register.26 I find that Tucker threatened and interrogated Murphy in violation of Section 8(a)(1). 12. On September 28, Harry McNeely spoke with Amato in the store. It is clear from both versions of the conversation that Amato accused McNeely of harassing his employees and that during the conversation McNeely gave Amato a slip of paper with telephone numbers of the president and area supervisor of Eisner's, the corporation for which McNeely worked, telling Amato that if he wanted to get him fired to call them. According to McNeely and Matusz who was nearby, Amato said he would call them to get him fired. Amato denied that he made any reply and denied that he had any desire to do more than put a stop to McNeely 's interference with the work of sackers carrying groceries to the parking lot. Although I am inclined to credit McNeely, I find it unnecessary to resolve this conflict as the incident is not mentioned in the General Counsel's brief and does not appear to be alleged as a violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. 13. On or before September 28 a notice was posted near the timeclock informing employees that a meeting was to be held at the store on the night of September 28 after the close of business. All employees were asked to attend, and they were paid for the time at the meeting . A few days before the meeting copies of a statement of company employment policy were distributed to at least some of the employees, and Amato read the policy statement at the meeting.27 During Amato's reading of the policy statement, Matusz interrupted several times to ask questions relating to the Union. Amato told him to be quiet . According to Matusz, Amato ultimately threatened to fire him for insubordina- tion if he said anything else. According to Amato and 26 Murphy so testified , contrary to Tucker . I have credited Murphy. 27 Although referred to in testimony by Amato, Tucker , and others as an agreement . it was not an agreement but a statement of Respondent 's policy concerning seniority , promotions , overtime , holidays, vacations , hours, jury leave , death leave , on-the -job injuries , and insurance. 290 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Tucker, he threatened merely to put Matusz out of the meeting if Matusz continued to interrupt. Although Pat Guard and Mary McNeely both testified about the meeting, neither mentioned that Amato threatened to fire Matusz. I credit Amato and find no violation in Amato's threat to eject Matusz from the meeting. After Amato finished reading the policy statement, he asked for questions, and the subject of the Union was again raised. McNeely accused Respondent of trying to set her up for a charge of stealing and mentioned her conversation with Tucker in Hoefer's presence about the layoff of cashiers. Tucker disputed the accuracy of McNeely's version, and McNeely asserted that her version was accurate and that Hoefer had heard it. Hoefer said nothing.28 Amato said that if the Union caine in he could not afford to keep help, and Tucker said that Respondent would have to lay off sackboys and the newer cashiers.29 I find that the threat to layoff cashiers and sackboys if the Union got in violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. While phrased in terms of necessity and what Respondent could afford, it was not conditioned on any wage or contract demand of the Union but simply upon the advent of the Union and cannot be dismissed simply as a prediction of the possible consequences of agreement to particular demands of the Union.30 After the meeting adjourned, Matusz spoke privately to Amato for about 15 minutes, explaining to Amato that what he had said during the meeting was not personal but merely reflected his strong support of the Union. They discussed the advantages and disadvantages of a union, but there is no indication that Amato's statements to Matusz contained any further violations of the Act 31 14. On September 30, Kevin Hart mailed 4 registered letter to the Union seeking withdrawal of the authorization card he had signed on September 14. Hart gave a statement concerning his withdrawal to the General Counsel during the investigation of this case and testified as a witness for the General Counsel, although it was apparent that he was a reluctant witness. Hart sought to convey, as Tucker also testified, that Hart merely went to Tucker to obtain advice as to how to withdraw his card. However, he testified that Tucker asked him if he had definitely signed a card and stated to him that she knew about all those in the store who had signed cards. He testified that he had more than one conversation with Tucker about his card and was uncertain as to when Tucker asked him whether he had signed a card and whether in the same conversation she stated that she 28 McNeely so testified . While others did not mention these statements of McNeely in their versions , Amato testified that he could not remember what McNeely said, Hoefer was not questioned about the meeting at all. and Tucker was not asked about these statements . It is clear that McNeely believed she was being set up for discharge , and Amato conceded that she spoke to him about it on an unspecified occasion I credit McNeely as to what she said as a preface to the statements of Amato and Tucker which followed. 29 Amato denied that he said anything about layoffs and testified that he could not recall whether Tucker said anything about them . McNeely, Guard, and Matusz testified to slightly varying versions of the statements of Tucker and Amato, all of which were the same in substance, and Tucker conceded that with reference to Union she said that if this "thing" happened they could not possibly keep all the employees on duty that they would like to, referring first to Respondent's longstanding policy of providing work for students and student's wives . I credit the somewhat blunter versions of McNeely, Guard, and Matusz However, although knew about all those who had. He testified that when he sent the letter he gave Tucker a copy and asked her if she wanted to put it with the rest of the union material she had. Tucker testified that she had only one conversation with Hart when he came to her and asked for advice on how to get his card back. According to Tucker, she replied, "A card. What card? Have you signed some kind of a card." She testified that she then advised Hart to write a letter or contact his attorney, and that in substance was their whole conversation. She testified that when Hart later brought the letter to her he merely said that he had some "important information" that he wanted her to keep in a safe place for him, that he did not tell her its contents, and that she did not read it. When told on cross-examination that Hart had testified that it was a copy of his letter, she testified that Hart could have said that but she did not read it. Then she testified that Hart told her it was a letter but did not say what it pertained to. I find it impossible to credit either Hart or Tucker that Hart merely voluntarily came to Tucker to inquire about withdrawing his card. However reluctant Hart's affirma- tion of the statement in his affidavit that Tucker told him she knew about all those who had signed cards, he did not recant from that testimony but indeed reaffirmed it several times. I find that Tucker made that statement. Hart's difficulty in placing that statement in the context of his version of his conversations with Tucker otherwise is understandable, for it does not fit unless Tucker made this statement before Hart decided that the politic thing would be for him to withdraw his card. Further evidence that Hart's withdrawal was less than voluntary lies in his delivery of a copy of the letter and the return receipt to Tucker to put with the other union material. Hart not only wanted to withdraw but also wanted Respondent to know he had withdrawn, and Tucker's professed ignorance of what Hart gave her is patently incredible. While it may be that Hart took the initiative in going to Tucker for advice after Tucker's initial statement that she knew all those who signed cards, her initial statement created an impression of surveillance, was coercive, and taints Hart's attempt to withdraw his card. 15. Around October 4 Hoefer talked to Rihn in the back room of the store. Hoefer asked him if he was for the Union. Rihn said he was not. Hoefer said it was a good thing because if he was and if the Union got in he would be kept to 40 hours a week 32 Hoefer conceded that Rihn had been getting overtime in Matusz also testified that Amato threatened to eliminate overtime , absent corroboration from McNeely or Guard I do not credit Matusz in this regard. 30 Components Inc, 197 NLRB No 25. Indeed the same conclusion would follow even if Tucker' s more guarded version of her statements were credited. 31 Although Matusz testified that Amato asked him if he was working for the Union or was sent to the store by the Union, and Amato 's denial was less than forceful , even if Amato asked these questions in the context of this conversation they were not coercive. 32 Rihn so testified. While I have not credited him in some other respects , I find his version of this conversation more credible that Hoefer's. While Hoefer denied that he asked Rihn if he was for the Union , he testified that one day when Rihn looked downhearted about something, Hoefer asked what was the matter and then said . "You know I can't give you any more overtime if the union gets in here " He later testified that probably he was the first to mention the Union in this conversation "because Ed was SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. 291 the past and that Hoefer had given him as much opportunity as possible to work overtime. I find that Hoefer's interrogation of Rihn and the threat to deny him overtime violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. E. The Discharge of John D. Wagoner John D. Wagoner was a full-time employee of the post office and worked part-time for Respondent as a sacker- stock boy from January 1968 until he was discharged on September 19, 1971. Wagoner worked mornings Monday thru Friday leaving each day at 1 p.m. On Friday, September 17, as Wagoner was punching in, Kevin Hart asked Wagoner to sign a union authorization card. No one else was present to overhear their conversa- tion. Hart told Wagoner that they were trying to get a union in. Wagoner said he did not want to express himself one way or the other at that time and would let Hart know on the following Monday. Wagoner told Hart that he thought it would cost Respondent more to have the Union in the store but that if Respondent paid higher wages there would be better help and less turnover and that in the long run Respondent might save money. Hart asked why Wagoner would not sign a card then, if that was the way he felt, but Wagoner said he would not and that he would let Hart know on the following Monday. Hart offered him a blank card but Wagoner refused to take it.33 Wagoner left work at 1 p.m. that day and was not scheduled to work again until the following Monday. On Sunday, September 19, Hoefer called Wagoner at home and told him that Amato had let Wagoner go. Wagoner said that Hoefer had to be kidding and asked why he was fired. Hoefer said that he had not been doing his work for the last month and a half. Wagoner said that he could not be out back checking in deliveries and up front stocking at the same time. Wagoner asked if it would do any good to come over the next day and talk about it, and Hoefer told him to do so.34 There is a sharp conflict in the testimony as to what was said when Wagoner visited the store on the next day. According to Wagoner, he first spoke to both Amato and Hoefer. He testified that Hoefer told Amato to keep Wagoner because he was a good worker and "all the instigators were out of the store." According to Wagoner, Amato initially replied that it was up to Hoefer if he wanted to keep Wagoner, but Amato and Hoefer then absented themselves briefly after which Hoefer returned and said that Amato did not want to keep him. At this time, according to Wagoner, he told Hoefer he believed Amato discharged him because Amato thought he was heading a union drive and not because of his work performance, and Hoefer replied that that was "more or less" the reason he was being let go and that he did not want to discuss it further because Amato might come back and catch them. Wagoner testified further that on the following Thursday after bowling with Hoefer, he asked Hoefer if the Union was the main reason he was fired, and Hoefer said that it was. Hoefer testified that he did not recall making either of the alleged admissions attributed to him by Wagoner. According to Hoefer and Amato, Wagoner was discharged because Amato had found him standing and talking to other employees instead of doing his work on a number of occasions, the last of which occurred on the previous Friday morning when Amato instructed Hoefer to dis- charge Wagoner. On the surface Wagoner was a more impressive witness than Hoefer. He appeared to be candid in describing his limited contact with the Union before his discharge, and his demeanor while testifying gave no suggestion that he lacked credibility. Hoefer, as already noted, appeared to be far from candid in his testimony that he did not become aware of the Union until September 27, a week after Wagoner's discharge, and his demeanor indicated both discomfort and uncertainty at significant points. Nonethe- less, the critical weight which attaches to Hoefer's alleged admissions requires that the testimony of all concerned be carefully scrutinized. There are aspects of Wagoner's testimony which raise doubt. First, if the alleged statement by Hoefer that all the instigators were out of the store has any meaning, its reference must have been to instigators of the union campaign, for there is no indication of any other instigation to which it might have referred. Yet, insofar as the record shows, all those who signed cards before Wagoner's discharge, with one possible exception, were still employed.35 Second, there is reason to doubt Wagon- er's testimony that Hoefer said he was a good worker who should be kept and that Amato said that it was up to Hoefer whether he kept Wagoner. Although Wagoner initially did not indicate that Amato voiced any criticism of his work at this time, Wagoner on rebuttal testified that Amato that morning spoke to him about leaving sections of shelves bare. This testimony, elicited in response to questions as to whether he had even been criticized for his work, makes it apparent that his initial version of this conversation omitted a significant portion. Moreover, Wagoner also initially testified that he could not recall any occasion when he had been spoken to about work deficiencies. Yet he later conceded that he had been spoken to about his work a few times over the entire course of his employment, and his response to Hoefer at the time Hoefer notified him of his discharge indicates that he was aware of some dissatisfaction with his work. feeling low and something was bothering him. Something awful . I asked him what was the matter, and he says, I don't feel right. And I says, what's happened? Is the union bothering you? And he said , no, not exactly, but some of it is. And I told him that if the union gets in there the hours would be cut down to forty hours, and there won't be no more overtime for you like I did in the past." I do not believe that Hoefer's intuition was any more operative in this instance than in the case of his alleged assumption that the men in the parking lot were union men. In any event , even from Hoefer's version it is clear that he threatened Rihn with loss of overtime if the Union got in. 33 Wagoner so testified. Hart denied that this conversation occurred or that he solicited anyone to sign a card . Hart did not impress me as candid in describing his role in the early union activity. Wagoner on the other hand appeared to be forthright in describing his limited contact with union activity before his discharge . I have credited Wagoner. 34 Wagoner so testified . Hoefer gave a brief version of this conversation, not contradicting Wagoner but adding that he told Wagoner he had been warned. 35 The General Counsel in his brief asserts that one other employee had signed a card at the outset of the campaign but that his card was not offered in evidence because he was no longer on the payroll when the Union requested recognition . The record does not show when he left. 292 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Finally, the limited evidence of Wagoner's contact with the organizing campaign and the absence of evidence of Respondent 's knowledge of that contact must raise a question as to the likelihood that Hoefer made the admissions attributed to him. However, these considerations do not end the matter, for Respondent 's version of Wagoner 's discharge is itself not persuasive. Although Amato's decision to discharge Wag- oner was allegedly triggered by Amato's observation of Wagoner standing and talking to another employee on Friday morning around 10 or 1 l a.m., for which Amato testified he reprimanded Wagoner on the spot, Amato did not discharge Wagoner at that time. Although Amato testified that immediately thereafter he told Hoefer to discharge Wagoner, Hoefer did not carry out Amato's alleged instruction to discharge Wagoner before Wagoner left for the day, and it was not until Sunday afternoon that Hoefer called Wagoner to tell him of his discharge. Given Amato's failure to discharge Wagoner at the time of his alleged reprimand and Hoefer's failure to tell Wagoner of his discharge until Sunday , there is substantial reason to question this version of the cause of Wagoner's discharge, particularly when one considers that, unlike most of Respondent's sacker-stock boys, Wagoner had been employed by Respondent for more than 3 years. Moreover, despite Wagoner 's seeming awareness that Amato was dissatisfied with him, it is clear that whatever Hoefer said to Wagoner on Sunday, Wagoner harbored suspicions on Monday morning that his discharge was related to the union organizing campaign , for Mary Tucker testified that Wagoner asked her if he had been fired because of the Union when he came to the store that morning. One cannot say, therefore, that Wagoner's suspicions came only as an afterthought or that it is unlikely that he questioned Hoefer about them. Indeed, Hoefer's denial of Wagoner's version of their conversation was accompanied by statements that he did not recall Wagoner's question or the response Wagoner attributed to him. In addition although Hoefer initially testified that he never spoke to Wagoner about his discharge after September 20, Hoefer conceded that they did a lot of talking after bowling on September 23 and testified that he could not recall if Wagoner asked if his union activities played a role in the discharge or if he replied that they were part of the reason for his discharge. Bearing in mind that Hoefer insisted, with little credibility, that he did not become aware of the union activity until the following week, and that it is highly unlikely that he and Wagoner talked a lot after bowling without mentioning Wagoner's discharge , Hoefer's disclaimers of recollection were weak refutations of Wagoner's testimony. Furthermore, the affirmative testimony of Hoefer and Amato as to Wagoner's work record does not inspire confidence. According to Hoefer he had talked to Wagoner four or five times about not doing his work right and Amato had told him to fire Wagoner 3 or 4 months earlier. Yet Hoefer offered no explanation for his failure to discharge Wagoner at that time and when asked to specify when he spoke to Wagoner about his work, he replied that it was some time in June or July when he "reminded" Wagoner about not doing his work nght. Although Amato testified that he had talked to Wagoner many times about talking on the job and not keeping his shelves stocked, he did not testify that he had ever previously instructed Hoefer to discharge Wagoner. Amato, Hoefer, and Tucker also testified that they had spoken to Wagoner about refusing to sack groceries for two specific cashiers. However, it appears from their testimony that these refusals occurred some 6 months before Wagoner's discharge , and Amato testified that , after he spoke, to Wagoner about it at that time, he had no further complaints about Wagoner in this regard and did not speak to him about it again . Thus, the testimony concern- ing Wagoner's work record is largely lacking in specificity as to the time of prior incidents and complaints, includes reference to only one specific time by Hoefer when he reprimanded Wagoner at least 2 months before the discharge, includes one complaint that was both stale and long since remedied, and leaves uncorroborated and unexplained Hoefer's testimony that Amato had previously told him to discharge Wagoner. Consideration of all the testimony relating to Wagoner's discharge persuades me that despite the questions that apse as to Wagoner's version, he is to be credited rather than Hoefer as to the critical testimony concerning Hoefer's admissions. It is true that the burden rests with the General Counsel to establish the alleged violation by a preponderance of the credible evidence and that without Wagoner's testimony as to Hoefer's admissions the burden could not be sustained . It is theoretically possible to discredit Hoefer and Amato and still conclude that Wagoner should not be credited. However, the weak testimony of Hoefer relating to his alleged admissions and his patently incredible denial of knowledge of the union activity until September 27 are substantial contributors to the conclusion that he cannot be credited, and as a practical matter it is impossible to conclude that Hoefer's very denials of the alleged admissions were untruthful without also reaching the conclusion that Wagoner's testimony concerning them was truthful. In sum , while I do not rely on Wagoner's testimony that Hoefer stated that all the instigators were out of the store, and find that Amato in the past had voiced some dissatisfaction with Wagoner for not attending to and completing his work, I credit his testimony that on Monday morning Hoefer, in response to his direct question, admitted that Amato's belief that he was heading a union drive was "more or less" the reason for his discharge and later on Thursday conceded that it was the main reason for it. I find further that these admissions are sufficient to sustain the allegation of the complaint that Wagoner's discharge violated Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act. As I have noted, although there is no direct evidence of Respondent's knowledge of the union activity before Wagoner came to the store on Monday morning, there is evidence that there was union activity at the store. The admissions of Hoefer provide ample basis to infer that knowledge of the union activity came to Respondent's attention before Wagoner was discharged. Although Wagoner had done no more than indicate the possibility that he might sign a card, it is sufficient to establish the SMITTY 'S FOODS , INC. 293 violation if Amato acted in the belief that Wagoner had an active role in the union activity. Although by all accounts Amato rather than Hoefer decided to discharge Wagoner, Hoefer clearly discussed the discharge with Amato before telephoning Wagoner and again on Monday, Hoefer occupied a responsible position in the store, and his admissions cannot be written off as mere speculation or insufficient as a basis to attribute to Amato the motive Hoefer conceded. Finally, the evidence as to Wagoner's work record and the hiatus between the alleged triggering incident and the notification to Wagoner of his discharge adds further support to the conclusion that the motivation admitted by Hoefer was the cause of Wagoner's discharge. F. The Discharge of Linda Gick Linda Gick started to work for Respondent as a cashier on April 5, 1971. She was discharged on September 28. At the time of her hire she was paid $1.60 an hour. At the time of her discharge she was paid $1.80 an hour. Gick attended three union meetings prior to her discharge including the September 23 meeting which Amato happened to observe. She signed a union authoriza- tion card on September 15, solicited cashiers Murphy and Guard to sign cards in the store on September 16, and obtained a signature from Michael McCue on September 24 while on her lunch hour in her car on the store parking lot. She also spoke to a number of other employees about signing cards. She was observed by Hoefer talking to union representatives on the parking lot on the Friday night before her discharge. When Gick reported for work on September 28, Tucker and Amato were in Tucker's office. Gick heard Amato ask Tucker if she was going to tell her "now," and Tucker called Gick to the office. Amato told her that her appearance was sloppy and that she should comb her hair. Gick did so and then went to her register and started work.36 A short while later Tucker called Gick to her office. Tucker questioned Gick about a shortage on her register and money left in a register drawer on the previous Sunday. Tucker told her that she was sloppy, that she was rude to elderly people, and that Tucker was afraid that she was going to have 'to fire Gick. Tucker said they would go talk to Amato. Gick said little or nothing in response to Tucker.37 Tucker and Gick then went to Amato's office. Tucker mentioned the shortage, Gick's personal appearance, and her rudeness. Amato asked Gick what she had to say for herself. Gick offered no explanation and shrugged her shoulders. Tucker told Amato that she had talked to him several times about Gick and that it had come to the point that either Gick or Tucker had to go because she had too much on her hands to put up with Gick. Amato told Tucker she had his permission to let her go.38 Tucker and Gick then returned to Tucker's office where Tucker made out a slip required for unemployment compensation purposes. At this time, Gick took issue with the reasons advanced by Tucker for her discharge.39 The form prepared by Tucker stated the following as the reasons for the discharge: Would not stay on register warned 5 or 6 times. Left large amounts of money in register over nite-Short- ages that didn't show up. Rude to elderly people especially- There is some evidence to support the allegation that Gick's union activities led to her discharge. Tucker had threatened McNeely that the cashiers would be replaced, and Hoefer on the previous Saturday had questioned Gick about talking to union representatives on the store parking lot. During the previous week Tucker had instructed Gick not to work on register 5, which was adjacent to the register at which McNeely worked, without stating any reason 40 There is also cause to question some of the reasons relied upon by Tucker in discharging Gick. Tucker charged Gick with failing to remove money from register 5 on the Sunday before her discharge and with the shortage on register 2 which Gick operated that day. The facts relating to that incident are basically undisputed. On Sunday, Gick reported for work at 2 p.m. and worked half a day. When she arrived she replaced Rat Guard who worked the first half of the day. Although register 5 had been set up for operation and was not in use when Gick arrived, Gick took over register 2 which Guard had run in the morning. In accord with usual practice when one cashier replaced another on a register, the money in the register was not counted at the time Gick took over. At the end of the day Gick followed usual closing time procedures with respect to register 2. She counted out $100 which was set aside in a separate bag for use in setting up the register the next morning. Without counting the remainder, she put it in a separate envelope which she sealed and signed with her name and register number. She gave both the bag and the envelope to Hoefer to place in the office safe. However, she did nothing with respect to the money in register 5 and, as no one else removed it, it remained in the register overnight. Gick explained that she did not use or close down register 5 because of the instruction given her during the previous week to stay away from that register. On the following day Gick did not work. However, that morning the money in register 5 was discovered, and when Tucker checked the receipts for register 2 she found a shortage of approximately $40. During that day Pat Guard learned of the shortage and asked Tucker about it. Tucker confirmed that there was a shortage. Guard said that she 36 Gick so testified, without contradiction. 37 Gick initially testified that she said nothing and "I just agreed with her" explaining that she did not know how Tucker might react to anything she said. She then testified that she told Tucker that it did not happen before she signed a union card to which Tucker responded, "Oh now, Linda." 38 These findings are based on the testimony of Tucker and Amato. Gick's version of this conversation was brief, conclusionary, and not contradictory in any essential. 39 Gick so testified. Tucker did not describe this conversation in any detail. 40 Although Tucker testified that she instructed Gick not to work at register 5 in July or August because Gick and McNeely laughed and talked too much, the testimony of Mrs. Smith and Wanda Westfall that Gick had left checks and coupons in the drawer of register 5 early in the week of September 20 corroborates Gick that the instruction was given her during that week . Tucker's testimony as to the timing of this instruction would appear to be less an inadvertancy than an attempt to dissociate its cause from the union activity of Gick and McNeely. 294 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD had operated the register before Gick, but Tucker said that Gick had closed it down and that Gick was responsible for the shortage. On the following morning when Tucker checked register 2 receipts for Monday, she found an overage of approximately $33. She assumed that the overage was due to a miscount of the money placed by Gick in the bag on Sunday night and accounted for that much of the Sunday shortage.41 There remained approxi- mately $8 of the shortage for which Tucker could not account, and she called Gick to her office to see if she could account for it. However, although Tucker testified that it was not possible to determine whether Gick or Guard was responsible for the remaining shortage, there is no evidence that,she ever questioned Guard about it. There are three elements of the Sunday incident for which Gick was criticized: One of them, her apparent miscount of the money placed in the bag for use in the register the following day, was fairly attributed to her. As for the second, the remaining $8 shortage, despite Tucker's testimony at the hearing that she could not tell whether Gick or Guard was responsible for it, Tucker charged Gick with responsibility for it on the morning of her discharge, and indeed her failure to question Guard about it on either Monday or Tuesday indicates some predisposition to find fault with Gick. The third element, the failure to remove the money from register 5, does not appear to be fairly chargeable to Gick at all. There is no evidence that cashiers were held responsible for closing down registers other than those they operated. Tucker had told Gick not to operate register 5. This was the first Sunday that Gick worked after the instruction was given, and there was no evidence offered to show that Gick was not to have regarded the instruction as applicable to that day. Indeed, it would appear that Hoefer, who was in charge of the store at closing time, rather than Gick, bore the responsibility for seeing that register 5 was emptied that night. One reason set forth by Tucker in the written notice quoted above, Gick's alleged rudeness to elderly people, is unsupported by any evidence. Although Tucker stated this as a reason for Gick's discharge on Tuesday morning, Gick denied that she had been rude, and no evidence was offered as to any incidents or complaints on which this charge might have been based. Furthermore, although not mentioned in the written statement given Gick, Tucker criticized Gick's personal appearance separately and before Amato. Apart from the comment by Amato earlier that morning, there is no evidence to controvert Gick's testimony that her appearance had never previously been criticized. With respect to shortages attributed to Gick other than on the Sunday before her discharge, Gick testified that she never had been told she was short before the morning of her discharge. Respondent's contrary evidence was general in nature and lacking in specifics. Tucker testified that she spoke to Gick once or twice a week about her duties. According to Tucker, the most outstanding complaint related to Gick's leaving her register, but she also spoke to 41 It was not uncommon for a shortage on a register on one day to be followed by an overage the following day, counterbalancing the previous day's shortage. 42 The evidence as to Respondent 's practice in closing down registers her about carelessness, overages, and shortages. She testified that Gick usually came to the office when she came to work and asked how she did the previous day, and that Tucker told her if she. was a dollar or two off and questioned Gick if there was a variance she could not account for to see if Gick could explain it. Wanda Westfall testified that she had heard Tucker talk to Gick about shortages, overages, and leaving the register. When asked for specifics, Westfall described one incident about 2 months before Gick's discharge when she heard Tucker ask Gick if she could explain a shortage and another shortly before Gick left when Tucker spoke to Gick about leaving her register. Ruth Leclitner, who was in charge of the cashiers on Monday nights, testified that she spoke to cashiers about their work and spoke to Gick more than anyone else. She could not recall specific incidents, but testified that she spoke to Gick many times about staying on her register and not talking to the cashier next to her, and remembered once "jokingly" scolding her about leaving things under the tray in her drawer. It was conceded that all cashiers occasionally made mistakes and had shortages or overages, and indeed it is likely that Gick, no less than other cashiers, on occasion had them. To this extent I am inclined to doubt that Gick was unaware that she had any shortages before the morning of her discharge. However, the evidence offered hardly shows that Gick was any different in this respect from other cashiers. Tucker's own description of conversa- tions with Gick about shortages indicates that these conversations were usually started by Gick and the only amounts she mentioned were $1 or $2 variances.42 Westfall described only one conversation between Tucker and Gick about a shortage, and Leclitner mentioned none. The testimony summarized above indicates greater support for the charge that Gick did not stay on her register and was reprimanded for it even before the union activity started. Gick testified that a few days before her discharge Tucker had talked to her about this and she then made no response. She conceded that Tucker spoke to her about this once before that, but denied that Tucker spoke to her about it five or six times. The testimony of Tucker, Westfall, and Leclitner in this regard is more specific, and I find that this deficiency in Gick's work existed and had been noted before the union activity began. With respect to the charge that Gick left large amounts of money in the register overnight, apart from the Sunday incident described above, there is evidence as to a second incident early in the previous week when Gick left checks and coupons under the metal tray in her drawer and failed to put them in her sealed envelope when she closed the register down. Although Gick denied that she ever heard of this incident until the hearing, I do not credit her denial in this regard. The incident occurred during the week of September 20 at a time when Tucker was away from the store because of illness . Mrs. Smith, who worked in Tucker's place on this occasion, testified that she discovered a shortage of each night shows that cashiers did not count change but estimated it, making small daily variances likely without signifying either an actual shortage or overage. SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. 295 approximately $300 in Gick's envelope, and she and Wanda Westfall testified that they located the missing amount in the form of checks and coupons under the metal tray in the drawer of Gick's register. There is no testimony that anyone said anything to Gick about this incident until Tucker returned to work on the following day. However, Tucker testified that she did so and according to Tucker when she asked Gick why she left the money in the drawer, Gick replied that the Union had her scared and worried to death, that she could not sleep well, and could not do her work. Gick in her rebuttal testimony testified that she did tell Tucker during the week before her discharge that the Union upset her, although she denied saying that it had her scared or worried to death. According to Gick, they had been talking imthe,office "I don't know what about" when the Union came up, and Tucker told her she was hurting the children of the store owner by signing a union card. She testified that Tucker then asked her what she thought of the Union and she then said the union representatives upset her when she came in the store. In her initial testimony relating to this conversa- tion, she stated that Tucker first talked to her about her work, then asked if she had gone to any union meetings, and then made the remark about hurting the Smith children. She said nothing at that time about her remark to Tucker that the Union upset her. There can be little doubt that Tucker and Gick were both referring to the same conversation. In Gick's initial version she indicated that she and Tucker had been talking about her work when the Union came up. In her second version she said she did not know what they had been talking about. In her initial version she portrayed her responses to Tucker's questions and statements in aggressive terms and hardly indicative of upset. In her second version her reply to Tucker's final question appears defensive. While it is possible that neither Tucker nor Gick described the full conversation between them at this time, with each selecting out the elements most favorable to her position, I do not credit Gick that Tucker never mentioned to her the checks and coupons that were found in her drawer and find that this was the aspect of their work that prefaced the conversation. I also find it more plausible that Gick's remarks about being upset by the Union were offered by way of apology for the incident than in response to Tucker's question about what she thought of the Union. While there is cause to suspect that Tucker may well have continued in this conversation along the lines indicated by Gick, I do not have sufficient confidence in Gick's version of this conversation to rely on it. However, with respect to the incident which gave rise to the conversation, there is evidence that other cashiers on occasions forgot to remove checks and coupons from their drawers, and there is no evidence that Gick's oversights in this regard were more egregious than those of other employees. In sum, the evidence relating to the reasons advanced for Gick's discharge is mixed. On the one hand, while I have not found Tucker or Amato entirely credible, I have also discredited Gick as to some critical aspects of her -testimony. There is cause to conclude that Gick in the past had been criticized for her absences from her register, she had left checks and coupons in her register the previous week, she had miscounted her money on Sunday night, and there was a shortage for which she bore possible responsibility. On the other hand, there is substantial cause to conclude that Tucker overreached in the accumulation of complaints she leveled at Gick. The charges of rudeness and sloppiness were unsupported. Despite Tucker's earlier instruction that Gick was not to operate register 5, Tucker held her responsible for leaving money in it overnight, and Tucker also held Gick responsible for the shortage for which she could not account, while failing even to question Guard about it. It does not appear that Gick's record as to shortages or leaving items in her register otherwise was unusual among the cashiers, all of whom had shortages or left items in registers on occasion. In the light of the threat to McNeely, Hoefer's interroga- tion of Gick, and the evidence of Respondent's animus otherwise, I conclude that whatever cause for dissatisfac- tion Gick had furnished Respondent expanded that cause with pretextual reasons in order to justify her discharge based on her union activities, in violation of Section 8(a)(3) of the Act. G. The Termination of Edwin Rihn Edwin Rihn started to work for Respondent on October 8, 1968, as a stock and sack boy. He worked until October 11, 1971, with one hiatus during the summer of 1970 when he left for about a month to take a construction job. Rihn signed an union authorization card on September 23 and obtained a signature from Durajczyk in the front of the store on September 25. He attended the September 23 restaurant meeting. On October 11, Rihn mismarked some stale bread, putting the price for fresh bread on it. This came to Amato's attention, and Amato spoke to him about it. As a consequence of that conversation Rihn left the store at 11 a.m., well before his normal quitting time. Rihn, Amato, and Davis all testified concerning this conversation. Although there are some conflicts between their versions, Rihn's ultimate testimony did not contradict that of Amato as to the critical portion of the conversation at the point when Rihn left the store. It is clear that Amato approached Rihn near the bread, reprimanded Rihn for mismarking the bread, and voiced general criticism of Rihn's work. Rihn told Amato that if he did not like the way Rihn was doing his job, Amato could get someone else.43 Amato then asked Rihn to accompany him to the produce department where Davis was, and the conversa- tion continued. According to Rihn, he told Davis that he was getting fed up with Amato "always yelling at me" and that he wanted him to get someone else to perform his duties. According to Rihn, Amato started to discuss the matter with Davis, and he testified initially that he got the impression that Amato wanted him to leave and return the next day so he just went out the door. However, when asked what Amato said to give him this impression, Rihn 43 According to Rihn, he meant that Amato should get someone else to do the specific duties to which he was assigned and assign him to other duties. 296 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD testified that he did not remember clearly what Amato said while he was in the produce department. Then when asked if Amato said anything directly to him, Rihn replied "he wanted me to stay there and he was yelling; not yelling, really, but he was raising his voice, and I just took it that he was angry at me." Rihn testified that he left because he could only take so much and "I was fed up with him, yelling at me constantly." He testified further "if I had stayed around much longer I would have gotten real angry and I might have said something that I would have regretted later." Although he testified initially that when he walked out of the store no one asked him to come back, on cross-examination he conceded that Amato said something further, that Amato might have said "come back," and could very well have said that he was not through talking to Rihn. He testified further that he thought Amato also said that he was not firing him. In these circumstances , whatever else preceded Rihn's departure, it is clear , as Amato and Davis testified, that as Rihn left Amato told Rihn that he was not firing him and was not through talking to him. Despite Rihn' s initial testimony that he had the impression that Amato wanted him to leave and return the next day, his own further testimony indicates the contrary. Rihn reported for work the next morning and found that his timecard was missing from the rack. Later he saw Amato in the parking lot and asked why. Amato said that Rihn had quit. Rihn said that he did not quit and that if he had, he would have said so. According to Rihn, Amato said he had walked out and he did not ever want to see him in the store again . Amato denied the latter statement. The General Counsel contends that Rihn was dis- charged. Respondent contends that he quit, and there is testimony by Amato and Davis that when Rihn walked out of the store he said something which indicated that he was quitting. But even assuming that Respondent discharged Rihn because he walked out in midday, I find little evidence to support the allegation of the complaint that he was discriminatorily discharged. It is true that in Rihn's version of the October II conversation there are indications that Amato' s anger was excessive for the provocation, and there is a suggestion in Rihn's testimony that Amato's attitude toward Rihn had undergone a recent change.44 Yet Rihn also testified that in the past Amato had criticized his work on a couple of occasions before "this all started happening." There is no indication that prior to October 11 and after the organizing campaign started Amato harassed or abused Rihn on any other occasion in conjunction with his work. It is difficult to read into the total circumstances any pattern of conduct designed to provoke Rihn to walk off the job or to make his working conditions so intolerable that he would quit. Assuming that Amato was unreasonably angry and harsh 44 According to Rihn 2 weeks before his discharge Amato indicated that he was pleased with his work and would have given him a raise but for the wage freeze then in effect . If Rihn's estimate of the time of this remark was correct, this would have been after the union activity started and after the union meeting Amato allegedly observed. 45 According to Matusz, in their separate conversation, Amato told him he believed Matusz was the one person in the store who could really hurt Amato by his support for the Union. Amato denied making this statement, and I credit his denial. in his reprimand of Rihn, the facts do not permit the conclusion that Amato sought to cause Rihn to leave or that Amato's treatment of Rihn on this occasion was discriminatorily motivated and justified Rihn's departure from the store. Even if Respondent discharged Rihn by insisting that he had quit when he sought to return to work, I cannot conclude that it did so for discriminatory reasons rather than simply because he walked out on the previous day. In these circumstances I shall recommend dismissal of the allegation of the complaint as to Rihn's discharge. H. The Discharge of Eugene Matusz Eugene Matusz started to work for Respondent on September 15, 1971, as dairy manager. He was paid a $1.80 an hour. He worked through November 6, 1971, and left under circumstances described below. Matusz signed an authorization card for the Union on September 22, he obtained signatures of two other employees on September 24 and 28. Matusz attended all union meetings. It will be recalled that, at the employee meeting held on September 28 and immediately thereafter in separate conversation with Amato, Matusz made it clear that he strongly supported the Union.45 On Saturday, November 6, Matusz reported for work. However, early that morning he told Hoefer that he had a personal problem and wanted to leave. Hoefer asked why and pointed out that it was going to be a busy day and that he needed Matusz. Matusz told Hoefer that he and his fiancee had broken their engagement the previous night and that he did not feel that he could work. Hoefer said that should not bother his work. Matusz said he was not in the right frame of mind to work because someone might say the wrong thing and he was afraid of what he might say or do in response.46 According to Matusz when he repeated that he could not work, Hoefer told him, "if that's the way you feel about it, you had better go home." According to Hoefer, when Matusz said he could not stay because he was terribly upset and might do something nasty, Hoefer said nothing more, and Matusz just took off. Matusz then left the store.47 On the following Monday morning Matusz reported for work as usual and started to work. Amato arrived somewhat later, and Tucker told him that Matusz had walked out of the store the previous Saturday.48 Thereafter Amato spoke with Hoefer and then told Matusz he was through and that Amato could no longer use him at the store.49 According to Matusz after Amato told him he was through, he told Amato that Hoefer had given him permission to leave, and he and Amato went to Hoefer who confirmed that he had given Matusz permission to leave. However, Matusz testified that Amato then asked Hoefer if he would have allowed Matusz to leave if he 46 The testimony of Matusz and Hoefer up to this point is not in essential conflict. 47 As Matusz left, Tucker spoke to him about his leaving. Although there is conflict in their testimony as to what was said , it is clear that Tucker did not give him permission to leave. 48 Amato was not at the store on Saturday. 49 According to Matusz earlier that morning, Amato had told him he was half an hour late for work, Matusz had told him his hours were changed, and Amato had said he would check with Hoefer. SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. didn't have his problem, that Hoefer said no, and that Amato then reaffirmed that Matusz was through. Amato and Hoefer testified that Hoefer did not tell Amato that he had given Matusz permission to leave 50 Although there are some reasons to doubt the accuracy of aspects of the testimony of Amato and Hoefer as to this incident,51 I am nonetheless persuaded that Amato and Hoefer, rather than Matusz, are to be credited as to the critical conflicts relating to the alleged permission given Matusz to leave on the previous Saturday and Hoefer's alleged confirmation of it on Monday. In any event I am persuaded that this incident was not seized upon by Respondent as a pretext to rid itself of Matusz because of his union activity. In Matusz' initial testimony he described two incidents after Matusz' union activities were known when Amato reprimanded him, once for the condition of the dairy case and once for not getting to work on time. According to Matusz in connection with the first incident, Amato gave him 3 days within which to straighten up the case or be fired. According to Matusz, in connection with the second reprimand after Matusz explained that he had never been given a fixed starting time, Amato gave him a definite starting time and told him that the next time he was I minute late he would be fired. Matusz testified that Amato also reprimanded him on other occasions as well. While this testimony might suggest that Amato was seeking cause to discharge Matusz, the testimony of Matusz on rebuttal shows the opposite to be the case. Thus, Matusz conceded after he started work as dairy manager, Amato told him on several occasions that he was not doing a good job, and finally in mid-October, Matusz asked if he could move to the frozen food department where he thought he might do better. Amato agreed, and Matusz changed jobs with Kevin Hart, becoming frozen food manager. Amato's dissatisfaction with Matusz contin- ued. Finally, Matusz missed 2 days of work, and Amato told him he could not return without a doctor's excuse. Matusz told Amato he had a sinus problem and did not go to a doctor because there was nothing a doctor could do to help. Amato then told him he would relieve him as frozen foods manager and assign him to a janitor's job, apparent- ly, with no change in pay. Matusz worked I day as janitor before he walked out on November 6. It is apparent from this history that if Amato was seeking a pretext to discharge Matusz because of union activity, he had ample opportunity throughout his employment to find one. If anything, Amato's willingness to allow Matusz to change work assignments indicates restraint and a desire to avoid his discharge. In these circumstances, I am inclined not to credit Matusz' version that he was given permission to leave work on November 6 and that Amato persisted in terminating him even after Hoefer confirmed that he had 50 Hoefer testified that Matusz was not present when Amato spoke to him Amato testified that he could not remember 51 Amato displayed an uncertain recollection as to aspects of it, particularly when called initially as an adverse witness by the General Counsel , and there are some discrepancies between the versions of Hoefer and Amato 52 Although Teeters testified that they spoke to Amato on September 29, Duckett placed the conversation about September 28, and Amato testified that the conversation occurred on the same day as the employee meeting at 297 told Matusz he could leave . Rather I find it more plausible that , as Hoefer testified , Matusz was persistent in stating that he could not work and simply turned and left when Hoefer told him that he was needed. In any event , even if Hoefer had indicated acquiescence , I would not conclude that his discharge was discriminatory, for the implied threat by Matusz that he would say or do something harmful if he stayed at work on November 6 in the light of Matusz' work history furnished more than arguable cause to regard Matusz as no longer of use to Respondent as an employee. Accordingly, I shall recommend dismissal of this allegation of the complaint. I. The Alleged Refusal To Bargain 1. The Union's requests for recognition and Respondent 's response On September 28, Duckett and Teeters, representatives of the Union, visited the store, and spoke to Amato.52 Duckett started out by saying, "Say, Gil, such a deal I have for you." Then he told Amato he represented the Union, that the Union represented the majority of Amato's employees, and that they wanted to be recognized and to bargain for a contract. Amato said that if they had anything to say about the organizing drive, they should talk to his attorney, whose name he had previously given to them, and that as far as he was concerned they should go to an election. Duckett tried to persuade Amato to agree to a card check and told Amato that, if they could sit down and bargain, he would be in a much better position to negotiate a contract which would be fair to Amato and the employees, because if they had to gain recognition the hard way, in preparing the people for an election, they would have to make commitments to the employees that they would have to keep. Duckett did not state to Amato what he considered to be an appropriate unit, and the compos- ition of the unit was not discussed.53 On September 29 at 6 p.m. Duckett telephoned Respon- dent's attorney , Peterson, at his home. He told Peterson he called because he was trying to find out if they could work out a card check for Respondent and gave his reasons for wanting a card check rather than election. Peterson stated that he had a good-faith doubt that they had a majority and questioned whether they could reach an agreement on an appropriate unit . Peterson raised questions as to the inclusion of part -time employees and meat department employees in the unit, and those issues were discussed. Peterson said he would do his best to expedite an election contingent on what unit was sought . Although it is clear that the appropriate unit was discussed , there is no evidence that Duckett took a position as to the unit the Union sought.54 On either September 28 or 29, Teeters had a short the store. 5' Duckett . Teeters, and Amato testified concerning this conversation According to Amato, Duckett and Teeters did not claim majority representation , but simply asked him to sign a contract, explaining that they could give him a better contract if he would sign a contract without an election. I credit Duckett and Teeters , who were experienced union representatives , that they claimed to represent a majority at this time 51 Only Duckett testified as to this conversation 298 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD telephone conversation with Mrs. Smith , owner of Respon- dent , in which he claimed to represent a majority in the store and asked if they could get together to discuss the situation in the store . She indicated that she would meet with him a day or two later , but later called back and said she could not meet them.55 On the evening of September 29 Teeters sent telegrams with substantially identical contents to Amato at the store and to Mrs. Smith at her home . The telegrams were delivered early in the morning on September 30. The telegram to Amato read: LOCAL 25 RETAIL CLERKS INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION DEMANDS RECOGNITION =BY CARD CHECK FOR YOUR STORE LOCATED 1812 NORTHWASTERN AVE =WEST LAFAY- ETTE AS THE BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVE FOR ALL FULL TIME =AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES EXCLUDING THE MEAT DEPT EMPLOYEES = On October 4, Respondent 's attorney by letter stated that Respondent did not believe that the Union represent- ed an uncoerced majority of the employees in the unit set forth in the telegram , that Respondent did not believe the unit was appropriate , and that the appropriate method to determine the unit and the desires of the employees was through a Board proceeding in which Respondent would cooperate. 2. The appropriate unit The complaint alleges that all full-time and part-time employees of Respondent employed at its facility , exclusive of meat department employees , guards, and all supervisors as defined in the Act, constitute a unit appropriate for the purpose of collective bargaining within the meaning of Section 9(b) of the Act. Respondent agrees to the exclusion of the meat depart- ment employees , but contends that only those sacker-stock boys who had been on Respondent's payroll for more than 18 consecutive weeks should be included , citing Albers Super Markets, Inc., 110 NLRB 474, The Liberal Market, Inc., 110 NLRB 66, and The Eavey Company, 115 NLRB 1779. The evidence shows that at any one time Respondent employs from 20 to 30 sacker -stock boys . While most appear to be regular part-time employees, some in this category work full time. Most of them are high school students and some are college students. Each has a regular weekly work schedule tailored to his school schedule and availability for work . During 1971, a total of 86 names appeared on Respondent 's payroll in this category. The record does not show the average length of employment for those who left Respondent prior to the dates of the Union's requests for recognition . While a number of those then employed were hired only a short time before , the record shows that of 27 in this category on October 1, 1971, 16 55 Only Teeters testified as to these conversations. Se Lewis & Coker Super Markets, Inc, 145 NLRB 970, Winn-Dixie Stores, Inc, 124 NLRB 908. 1 note further that in the cases relied on by Respondent there is indication that in addition to high turnover among the were still employed at the time of the hearing, and another was on sick leave. The record also shows substantial turnover in two other categories of employees . During the week ending October 2, 1971, Respondent employed 12 cashiers , 6 full time and 6 part time . Five of the cashiers were hired in September 1971, and one in August . During 1971 a total of 20 cashiers appeared on Respondent's payroll. Of those on the October 2 payroll, seven were still employed at the time of the hearing . During the week ending October 2, 1971, Respondent had five delicatessen employees on its payroll, one of whom worked only 1 day. Three were long-time employees and were still employed at the time of the hearing, but during the year 1971 a total of 17 delicatessen employees appeared on Respondent's payroll. As the record does not show the average length of employment of the sacker-stock boys, except for those employed at the time of the Union's requests for recogni- tion , and as it appears that the rate of turnover among the employees in this classification is not substantially greater than among the cashiers and delicatessen employees, I conclude that the rule of exclusion urged by Respondent should not be applied 56 3. The Union's majority The General Counsel contends that the Union made effective requests for recognition on September 28, 29, and 30, and that it is sufficient to establish the Union's majority on any of these dates or October 4 when Respondent's letter denying recognition was sent. Respondent contends that none of the Union's demands constituted an adequate demand for recognition. I have found that Duckett and Teeters spoke with Amato on September 28, claimed to represent a majority of his employees, and asked for recognition and bargaining. However, in that conversation Duckett and Teeters did not mention the unit in which they sought bargaining. Although on the next afternoon they discussed unit issues with Respondent's attorney, there is no evidence that they told him whether or not they sought inclusion of all the sacker-stock boys or the meat department employees in the unit. Insofar as the record shows, it was in the telegrams received by Respondent on September 30 that the Union for the first time spelled out its position with respect to these categories and the unit in which it sought recognition. I find that the initial conversations of Duckett and Teeters with Amato and Respondent's attorney did not constitute adequate demands for recognition because of the lack of evidence that in either conversation the union representatives stated the unit in which recognition was sought S7 As the meat department employees were no longer separately represented and as the Union did not seek to represent them, there was in fact a real need for more than the broad request made by Teeters to Amato. However, I find that the telegrams received by Respondent on September 30 remedied that defect and perfected the Union's demand. Although the telegrams did not repeat employees in question their employment was intermittent , unlike that of the sacker-stock boys in this case . See Swift & Company, I I I NLRB 545 57 Wolf Lake Food Center, Inc, 172 NLRB No 75 SMITTY'S the claim of majority representation, that claim was orally made to Amato on September 28, and Duckett asked Respondent's attorney for a card check on September 29. It is immaterial that the telegram did not modify the term "part-time employees" by the adjective "regular" or state a position with respect to the sacker-stock boys who had worked less than 18 weeks , as the evidence shows that all part-time employees were "regular" and the Union sought all part-time employees, including those who had worked 18 weeks or less. The failure of the Union to include its return address on the telegrams does not indicate that its demand for recognition was not genuine , for the conduct of Duckett and Teeters indicates otherwise, the Union had a regular office and telephone in Lafayette, and there is no indication that Respondent's attorney had any difficulty in replying to the Union's demand on October 4. 1 conclude that September 30 is the date on which the Union completed an adequate demand for recognition and is the date on which its majority is to be measured.58 The following is a list of the names of employees on Respondent's payroll on September 30.59 The column at the right shows those who had signed authorization cards as of the date. There is no contention that any of the authorization cards was obtained under circumstances which would render it invalid for purposes of determining the Union's majority 60 CARD NAME SIGNED 1. Sharon Bergstrom X 2. Merrilee Dye 3. Sandra Gouchenour 4. Pat Guard X 5. Josephine Justice 6. Ruth Leclitner 7. Mary McNeely X 8. Patrice Murphy X 9. Sandra Odorozynsky 10. Cassie Pelfry 11. Vonna Shumate 12. Wanda Westfall 13. Denzil McKenzie X 14. Gil Amato, Jr. 15. James Bartlett X 16. Warts Cowlas X 17. William Creamer X 18. Gary Davis 19. Pat Doyle X 20. John Durajczyk X 58 Federal Stainless Sink Div of Unarco Industries , Inc, 197 NLRB No. 76. 59 The names of Linda Gick and John D . Wagoner have been included as I have found that their discharges before September 30 violated Sec 8(a)(3) of the Act 60 The card of Kevin Hart has been counted as I have found his withdrawal invalid and his letter of withdrawal in any event was not received by the Union until October 4. 61 The above list of names is taken from an exhibit prepared by the General Counsel from Respondent 's records , which was received on the next to last day of the hearing , subject to Respondent's opportunity to check it for accuracy . At the hearing Respondent raised no question as to the accuracy of the exhibit, but in its brief it points to testimony of FOODS, INC. 299 21. John Eberlee 22. Dennis Harris 23. Kevin Hart 24. H. Haug 25. Thomas Higbee X 26. H. Kline X 27. H. Lawson 28. M. McCue X 29. D. McGuire X 30. J. Miller 31. Mickey Newton X 32. Robert Page X 33. Mike Renaldi X 34. Ed Rihn X 35. J. Roberts 36. D. Sanders 37. Kirk Stewart 38. J. Thompson 39. W. Zopp 40. Marvin Davis 41. R. Pierce 42. Eugene Matusz 43. D. Gath 44. V. Mooney 45. D. Owens 46. J. White X X X 47. Linda Gick X 48. John D . Wagoner X Total employees - 48 61/ Total Cards - 24 I find accordingly that the Union lacked a majority on September 30. During the next several days the Union obtained no additional cards. However, D. Wright and G. Dela were employed on October 1 and John Durajczyk and Dennis Harris left their jobs on September 30. Thus, the total number of employees on October 1 remained 48 and the number of cards declined to 23 . There were no new hires on October 2, 3, or 4 but V. Mooney last worked on October 1, and Robert Page , G. Dela, and Merrilee Dye last worked on October 2. Thus, on October 2 there were 47 employees and 23 cards ,82 and on October 3 and 4 there were 44 employees and 22 cards . There is no evidence to show that the Union thereafter achieved a majority among the employees in the unit . Accordingly , I conclude that the Union on and after September 30, 1971, did not represent a majority of the employees in the appropriate unit and will recommend dismissal of the allegation that Respondent refused to bargain in violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (5) of the Act. Mary Tucker in connection with the issue of the supervisory status of Marvin Davis that another employee, Arthur Davis , was employed during the payroll period ending October 2. Tucker testified that Arthur Davis received shipments of merchandise , assisted Grocery Manager Hoefer, and was paid at the rate of $2.75 an hour. There is no other mention of Arthur Davis in the record. As the Union lacked a majority even if Davis is excluded, I find it unnecessary to decide whether Arthur Davis should be added to the list of names of those in the appropriate unit on September 30. 62 1 have considered G. Dela as an employee on October I and 2, as there is no evidence that Dela was hired other than as a regular employee However , the exclusion of Dela would not result in a union majority on either of these dates. 300 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD IV. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of the Respondent set forth in section III, above, occurring in connection with the operations described in section 1, above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relationship to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of commerce. 6. By discharging John D. Wagoner on September 19, 1971, and Linda Gick on September 28, 1971, because of their union activities , Respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act. 7. Respondent has not otherwise violated the Act as alleged in the complaint. Upon the foregoing findings of fact, conclusions of law, and the entire record, and pursuant to Section 10(c) of the Act, I hereby issue the following recommended:63 V. THE REMEDY Having found that Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act, I shall recommend that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. As I have found that Respondent discriminatorily discharged John D. Wagoner on September 19, 1971, and Lihda Gick on September 28, 1971, 1 shall recommend that Respondent be ordered to offer them immediate and full reinstatement to their former jobs or, if those jobs no longer exist, to substantially equivalent positions, without prejudice to their seniority or other rights or privileges, and to make them whole for any loss of earnings they may have suffered by payment to them of the amounts they normally would have earned as wages from the dates of their discharges to the dates of offers of reinstatement, less net earnings, to which shall be added interest at the rate of 6 percent per annum, in accordance with the formula set forth in F. W. Woolworth Company, 90 NLRB 289, and Isis Plumbing & Heating Co., 138 NLRB 716. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. Smitty's Foods, Inc., is an employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act. 2. Retail Clerks Union #25, Retail Clerks Internation- al Association, AFL-CIO, is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. 3. All full-time and part-time employees of Respondent at its West Lafayette, Indiana, store, excluding meat department employees, guards, and supervisors as defined in the Act, constitute a unit appropriate for purposes of collective bargaining within the meaning of Section 9(b) of the Act. 4. On and after September 30, 1971, the Union was not the exclusive representative of the employees in said unit for the purpose of collective bargaining within the meaning of Section 9(a) of the Act. 5. By threatening employees with reprisals if they engaged in union activities, and by interrogating employ- ees concerning their union activities and those of other employees, Respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Sections 8(a)(1) and 2(6) and (7) of the Act. ORDER Respondent, Smitty's Foods, Inc., its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall: 1. Cease and desist from: (a) Threatening employees with layoff, discharge, loss of overtime, or any other reprisals if they engage in union activity or choose to be represented by a union. (b) Interrogating its employees as to their union activities or those of other employees. (c) Discouraging membership in Retail Clerks Union #25, Retail Clerks International Association, AFL-CIO, or any other labor organization, by discriminating against its employees in regard to their hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of their employment. (d) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of their right to engage in, or to refrain from engaging in, any or all of the activities specified in Section 7 of the Act, except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment, as authorized in Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, as modified by the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. 2. Take the following affirmative action which is necessary to effectuate the policies of the Act: (a) Offer John D. Wagoner and Linda Gick immediate and full reinstatement to their former jobs or, if those jobs no longer exist, to substantially equivalent positions, without prejudice to their seniority or other rights or privileges, and make them whole for any loss of pay that they may have suffered by reason of the discrimination against them in the manner set forth in the section of this Decision entitled "The Remedy." (b) Preserve and, upon request, make available to the Board or its agents , for examination and copying, all payroll records, social security payment records, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all other records necessary to analyze the amount of backpay due under the terms of this recommended Order. (c) Notify immediately the above-named individuals, if presently serving in the Armed Forces of the United States, of the right to full reinstatement, upon application after discharge from the Armed Forces, in accordance with the 63 In the event no exceptions are filed as provided by Sec 10246 of the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board , the findings. conclusions , and recommended Order herein shall, as provided in Sec 102.48 of the Rules and Regulations . be adopted by the Board and b come its findings, conclusions , and Order, and all objections thereto shall deemed waived for all purposes SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. Selective Service Act and the Universal Military Training and Service Act. (d) Post at its West Lafayette, Indiana, place of business copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix."64 Copies of said notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Region 25, after being duly signed by Respondent's authorized representative, shall be posted by the Respondent immediately upon receipt thereof, and be maintained by it for 60 consecutive days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (e) Notify the Regional Director for Region 25, in writing, within 20 days from the receipt of this Decision, what steps the Respondent has taken to comply herewith 85 The complaint will be dismissed insofar as it alleges that Respondent violated Section 8(a)(5) of the Act or other unfair labor practices not found herein. 64 In the event that the Board 's Order is enforced by a Judgment of a United States Court of Appeals , the words in the notice reading "Posted by Order of the National Labor Relations Board" shall read "Posted Pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the National Labor Relations Board " 65 In the event that this recommended Order is adopted by the Board after exceptions have been filed, this provision shall be modified to read "Notify the Regional Director for Region 25. in writing, within 20 days from the date of this Order, what steps the Respondent has taken to comply herewith " APPENDIX NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES POSTED BY ORDER OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD An Agency of the United States Government WE WILL NOT threaten our employees with layoff, discharge, loss of overtime, or any other reprisals if they engage in union activity or choose to be represented by a union. WE WILL NOT question our employees about their union activities or those of other employees. WE WILL NOT discharge or otherwise discriminate against employees in order to discourage membership 301 in Retail Clerks Union #25 , Retail Clerks Internation- al Association , AFL-CIO, or any other labor organiza- tion. WE WILL offer John D . Wagoner and Linda Gick, immediate and full reinstatement to their former jobs or, if those jobs no longer exist , to substantially equivalent positions , without loss of seniority or other rights or privileges , and we will make them whole for any pay they lost, with interest , because of the discrimination against them. WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with, restrain , or coerce our employees in the exercise of their right to engage in, or to refrain from engaging in, any or all the activities specified in Section 7 of the Act, except to the extent that such rights may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organi- zation as a condition of employment , as authorized in Section 8(a)(3) of the Act , as modified by the Labor- Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. Dated By SMITTY'S FOODS, INC. (Employer) (Representative) (Title) Note : We will notify immediately the above-named individuals , if presently serving in the Armed Forces of the United States , of the right to full reinstatement, upon application after discharge from the Armed Forces, in accordance with the Selective Service Act and the Universal Military Training and Service Act. This is an official notice and must not be defaced by anyone. This notice must remain posted for 60 consecutive days from the date of posting and must not be altered , defaced, or covered by any other material . Any questions concern- ing this notice or compliance with its provisions may be directed to the Board's Office , 614 ISTA Center, 150 West Market Street , Indianapolis , Indiana 46204 , Telephone 317-633-8921. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation