Sam the Window ManDownload PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsMar 29, 1962136 N.L.R.B. 663 (N.L.R.B. 1962) Copy Citation SAM THE WINDOW MAN 663 WE WILL NOT withhold , withdraw, curtail , or discontinue any privilege or benefit of any employee, or any other term or condition of employment , as a re- prisal for , or in order to influence , any employee 's attitude toward any labor organization , or to discourage any employee from membership in, or any activity on behalf of , such an organization. WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with , restrain , or coerce em- ployees in the exercise of their right to self-organization , to form , join, or assist any labor organization , to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, to engage in concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection , or to refrain from any or all such activities , except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of em- ployment, as authorized in Section 8(a)(3) of the said Act. WE HEREBY NOTIFY our employees that our practices , and policies of granting loans to employees , distributing paychecks to them , joining with employees in contributing to sickness or accident benefits for employees , or to funeral expenses incurred for any employee or his family, and selling fuel oil to em- ployees at a 5 percent discount have been reinstated and are now in effect to the same extent and under the same conditions as they existed on and before May 2, 1961. WE WILL pay each employee who has purchased fuel oil from us since the discontinuance of the practice of giving a 5 percent discount to employees for such purchases , a sum of money equal to 5 percent of the purchase price paid the Company by such employee for each purchase of fuel oil made by him between the date of discontinuance of the discount practice and its restoration. All our employees are free to become or remain or refrain from becoming or remaining members of any labor organizaiton , except to the extent that this right may be affected by an agreement in conformity with Section 8(a)(3) of the National Labor Relations Act. REED'S FUEL COMPANY, Employer. Dated--- ---------------- By------------------------------------------- (Representative ) ( Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 days from the date hereof , and must not be altered , defaced , or covered by any other material. Aluminum Screen and Window Co., Inc., d/b/a Sam The Window Man and Brotherhood of Painters , Decorators and Paper- hangers of America, Glaziers Local 1241, AFL-CIO. Case No. 17-0A-17925. March 29, 1962 DECISION AND ORDER On September 13, 1961, Trial Examiner A. Bruce Hunt, issued his Intermediate Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the Respondent had engaged in and was engaging in certain unfair labor practices and recommending that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action, as set forth in the Intermediate Report attached hereto. Thereafter the Respondent filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report and a supporting brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3 (b) of the Act the Board has delegated its powers in connection with this case to a three-member panel [Members Rodgers, Fanning, and Brown]. 136 NLRB No. 62. 664 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD The Board has reviewed the rulings of the Trial Examiner made at 'the hearing and finds that no prejudicial error was committed.' The rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board-has'considered the Intermedi- ate Report, the exceptions and briefs, and the entire record in this case, and hereby adopts the findings, conclusions, and recommenda- tions of the Trial Examiner. ORDER Upon the entire record in this case, and pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the Respondent, Aluminum Screen and Window Co., Inc., d/b/a Sam The Window Man, Wichita, Kansas, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall : 1. Cease and desist from : (a) Refusing to bargain collectively with Brotherhood of Painters, Decorators and Paperhangers of America, Glaziers Local 1241, AFL- CIO, as the exclusive representative of all employees in the appro- priate unit. The appropriate unit is : All production and maintenance employees employed at the Em- ployer's Wichita plant, excluding office clerical employees, sales- men, servicemen, installation men, guards, watchmen, and super- visors as defined in the Act. (b) Discouraging membership in said Local 1241, or in any other labor organization of its employees, by discharging, laying off, or re- fusing to reinstate any of its employees because of their concerted or union activities, or in any other manner discriminating in regard to their hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of em- ployment.- (c) Interrogating employees concerning union affiliation or activi- ties in a manner constituting interference, restraint, or coercion in violation of Section 8(a) (1). (d) Threatening employees with discharge, loss of seniority, closing of the plant, or any other form of discrimination, if they engage in concerted or union activities. (e) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act. i At, the hearing, counsel for Respondent advised the Trial Examiner that a criminal prosecution was pending ' against Foreman ' Witt; that ' Respondent wanted to call Witt as a witness, but because of the pending criminal case wished to avoid placing on the record any material which could be used against Witt in the criminal case, and, there- fore, moved that the Trial Examiner rule that any cross -examination of Witt be re- stricted to the area of direct. The Trial Examiner denied the motion stating that the General Counsel would have the right to examine Witt on any issue in the case and that he would not restrict cross -examination to the area of direct The Respondent did not call Witt as a witness , nor did it make any offer of proof as to what testimony would have been elicited from Witt had he testified . In these circumstances , we find Respond- ent's exception to the Trial Examiner's ruling to be without merit. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 665 2. Take the following affirmative action which the Board finds will effectuate the policies of the Act : (a) Upon request, bargain collectively with said Local 1241 as the exclusive representative of all employees in the foresaid unit, and, if an*understanding is reached, embody such understanding in a signed agreement. (b) Offer Donald Cheney, Orville McLinn, and Olen Nichols im- mediate and full reinstatement to their former or substantially equiva- lent positions, without prejudice to their seniority or other rights or privileges. (c) Make whole Donald Cheney, LaVerne Koepsel, Orville McLinn, Verde Mitchell, Olen Nichols, and Lester Rickards in the manner set forth in "The Remedy" section of the Intermediate Report. (d) Preserve and, upon request, make available to the Board or its, agents, for examination and copying, all payroll records, social security payment records, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all other reports as set forth in "The Remedy" section of the Intermediate Report. (e) Post at its place of business in Wichita, Kansas, copies of the notice attached hereto marked "Appendix." 2 Copies of said notice, to be furnished by the Regional Director for the Seventeenth Region, shall, after being duly signed by the Respondent's representative, be posted by it immediately upon receipt thereof, and be maintained by it for 60 consecutive days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reason- able steps shall be taken by the Respondent to ensure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (f) Notify said Regional Director, in writing, within 10 days from the date of this Order, what steps the Respondent has taken to comply herewith. 2In the event that this Order is enforced by a decree of a United States Court of Appeals , there shall be substituted for the words "Pursuant to a Decision and Order" the words "Pursuant to a Decree of the United States Court of Appeals , Enforcing an Order." APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order of the National Labor Relations Board, and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, we hereby notify our employees that : WE WILL NOT discourage membership in Brotherhood of Paint- ers, Decorators and Paperhangers of America, Glaziers Local 1241, AFL-CIO, or in any other labor organization of our em- ployees, by discharging, laying off, or refusing to reinstate any of our employees because of their concerted or union activities, or in any other manner discriminate in regard to their hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of employment. 666 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD WE WILL NOT interrogate our employees concerning union af- filiation or activities in a manner constituting interference, re- straint, or coercion in violation of the Act. . WE WILL NOT threaten employees with discharge, loss of sen- iority, closing of our plant, or any other form of discrimination, if they engage in concerted or union activities. WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with, restrain, or. coerce our employees in the exercise of the right to self- organization, to form labor organizations, to join or assist Glaziers Local 1241, or any other labor organization, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, or to engage in concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, or to refrain from any or all of such activities. WE WILL offer Donald Cheney, Orville McLinn, and Olen Nichols immediate and full reinstatement to their former or sub- stantially equivalent positions, without prejudice to their sen- iority or other rights or privileges. WE WILL make whole Donald Cheney, LaVerne Koepsel, Orville McLinn, Verde Mitchell, Olen Nichols, and Lester. Rickards for any loss of pay they may have suffered as a result of our discrimi- nation against them. WE WILL, upon request, bargain collectively with Glaziers Local 1241 as the exclusive representative of all employees in the following bargaining unit : All production and maintenance employees at our Wichita plant, excluding office- clerical employees,. salesmen, service- men, installation men, guards, watchmen, and supervisors as defined in the Act. All our employees are free to become or remain, or to refrain from becoming or remaining, members in good standing of Glaziers Local 1241, or any other labor organization. ALUMINUM SCREEN AND WINDOW CO., INC., D/B/A SAM THE WINDOW MAN, Employer. Dated---------------- By------------------------------------- (Representative ) ( Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 days from the date hereof, and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. Employees may communicate directly with the Board's Regional Office, 1200 Rialto Building, 906 Grand Avenue, Kansas City 6, Missouri, Telephone Number, Baltimore 1-7000, Extension 731, if they have any question concerning this notice or compliance with its provisions. SAM THE WINDOW MAN INTERMEDIATE REPORT 667 STATEMENT OF THE CASE This proceeding involves allegations that the Respondent, Aluminum Screen and Window Co., Inc., d/b/a Sam The Window Man, violated Section 8(a)(1), (3), and (5) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, 61 Stat. 136, 73 Stat. 519. On March 7, 8, and 9, 1961, I conducted a hearing at Wichita, Kansas, at which all parties were represented. The Respondent's motion to dismiss the com- plaint is denied for reasons which appear below. Upon the entire record, and from my observations of the witnesses, I make the following: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE RESPONDENT The Respondent, a Kansas corporation, has its principal place of business at Wichita, Kansas, where it is engaged in the fabrication, assembly, and sale of aluminum storm windows, doors, and related articles. The Respondent annually sells products valued ' at over $500,000, of which more than $50,000 represent ship- ments directly to points outside Kansas. There is no dispute, and I find, that the Respondent is engaged in commerce within the meaning of the Act. II. THE UNION Brotherhood of Painters , Decorators and Paperhangers of America, Glaziers Local 1241, AFL-CIO, is a labor organization which admits to membership em- ployees of the Respondent. M. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. The issues The principal issues are whether the Respondent invalidly (1) refused to bargain with the Union, (2) discharged certain employees, (3) laid off certain employees, and (4) interrogated and threatened employees. B. Chronology of events On September 12 and 14, 1960, various employees of the Respondent met with representatives of the Union (which is sometimes called Local 1241 herein). Nine employees, who constituted a majority in the appropriate unit described hereinafter, signed cards authorizing the Union to represent them. On September 15, Howard V. Robinson and M. E. Young, representatives of the Union, called upon Robert S. McDonough, the Respondent's president. Robinson, after introducing himself and Young, said that the Union had been designated by a majority of the production workers and asked recognition. McDonough declined to grant recognition then and said that he wished to talk with the employees. There were some remarks concerning McDonough's telephoning Robinson or Young later. Robinson did not have a business card and Young gave one of his own to McDonough. It was under- stood that McDonough would telephone Young because Robinson would be in Kansas City the next day. Young's card identified him as business agent of Local 76, which he also represents, whereas Robinson had said to McDonough that Local 1241 represented the employees. As recited below, the Respondent asserts that confusion resulted from the use of Young's card.' Soon after Robinson and Young departed, McDonough called a meeting of the window shop employees. He expressed shock at having been visited by Robinson and Young, saying too that the employees should have come to him first and that the Union was not needed. McDonough asked which employees desired to be repre- sented by the Union, why they desired such representation, and who was their spokesman. The employees told him that they all favored union representation and 1 The findings concerning this conversation are based upon the testimony of Robinson and Young. McDonough testified that Robinson said to him, inter alia, that a majority of the employees in the Respondent's window shop, where windows are made, wished to be represented by "the union," that McDonough said that he was "quite busy" and could "let [Robinson] know In a week or some such time," and that the conversation soon terminated after McDonough said that it "might as well be brought to a close be- cause" he "wasn't very open-minded at this time about the union " 668 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD that they had no spokesman among them. McDonough said that he could purchase windows and thereby close the window shop. He asked the employees to re- consider? After the meeting, McDonough called his attorney, Fred A. Beaty, who advised, according to McDonough, "that the smart thing for a small business to do in a situation of this type was to determine . [whether] the union did have a majority of the members of the unit and, if so, to go ahead and recognize the union." 3 On the next morning, September 16, there were several events. First, Beaty testified that he was unsuccessful in trying to telephone Young at the latter's office. According to Beaty, the call was made "early in the morning" and there may have been no answer. Second, Foreman Witt telephoned La Verne Koepsel, an employee who was on sick leave, and asked what Koepsel knew of the organizational acitvities. Koepsel had signed an authorization card and he told Witt that he "would go along with" other employees. To Witt's question, "Does that mean you are in favor?" Koepsel answered affirmatively.4 Third, about the same time that morning, the window shop employees selected two of their number, Olen Nichols and Orville McLinn, as a committee to inform McDonough, who had asked that they reconsider, that their decision was that they still wanted the Union to represent them. Soon the two employees met with McDonough and conveyed the decision. McDonough spoke against the decision, saying that he "didn't want any outsiders coming in and telling him how to run the place," that a "smart man realizes his mistakes," that McDonough could close the plant, and that he wished to have another meeting with the shop employees.5 Soon after McDonough talked with Nichols and McLinn, he telephoned Attorney Beaty and asked Beaty to attend the meeting that afternoon. According to Mc- Donough's testimony, he told Beaty that he and the employees knew "very little about unions" and, therefore, he wanted Beaty to attend the meeting to "discuss unions." According to Beaty, however, the purpose of the meeting was to determine the bargaining unit desired by the Union and whether the Union enjoyed a majority status therein, and McDonough asked him to attend so that he could ask the em- 2 The findings concerning this meeting are based upon the testimony of various em- ployees who testified for the General Counsel. Two persons who were identified as having been present on behalf of management, Frank Huffmaster and Fred Witt, office manager and foreman, respectively, did not testify. McDonough testified that the visit by Robinson and Young had "completely taken [him] by surprise," that he had been unaware that any employee was interested in the Union, and that he called the meet- ing of employees "to find out what it was all about " McDonough testified also that he opened the meeting by asking, "What is the deal with the union,", that there was no response , that he then told of the visit by Robinson and Young, and that he said to the employees that he "wanted to know, did [Robinson and Young] represent them, and tell me about it because I didn't know anything about it." Again there was silence on the part of the employees with "one or two exceptions," according to McDonough, be- cause the employees "were all, to a degree, concerned with how [McDonough] was going to react, and so it was a kid-glove situation " McDonough testified further that the employees "more or less indicated through a nod of the head or their lack of com- munication that they may be for [the Union] or against it," with the result that McDonough understood that only two to five employees favored the Union. In this con- nection, McDonough sought to repudiate a written statement which he signed on Janu- ary 25, 1961, that recites that after the meeting he understood "that all of the shop employees wanted the union." McDonough dented that he ever told an employee that he would close the plant if the Union "came in" and that he ever made a threat to an employee based upon the employee's vote for or against the Union I cannot credit these denials in view of the extensive unfair labor practices which McDonough com- mitted, as found herein. As recited, neither Huffmaster nor Witt was called as a witness to support McDonough 's denials. 3 McDonough testified that he telephoned Beaty after the meeting. Beaty, who also was a witness for the Respondent, testified that after the telephone conversation he sought unsuccessfully to call Young, whose name had been given to him by McDonough, that his effort to call Young was after normal working hours, and that he advised McDonough that they "should ascertain from the employees in the plant what group or what unit it was the union desired to represent and determine whether or not the union had a majority status in that group .. . . 'The findings concerning the conversation between Koepsel and Witt are based upon the former's testimony. Witt was not a witness. See footnote 30, infra. 5 The findings concerning McDonough's conversation with Nichols and McLinn are based upon the two employees ' testimony . McDonough testified that the two employees told him of the group's decision to be represented by the Union. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 669 ployees pertinent questions. Beaty also testified, in effect, that McDonough did not inform him that McDonough had been told by Nichols and McLinn that the employees, after reconsideration, still desired union representation .6 When the meeting began, Beaty waited outside the room and McDonough spoke to the employees. McDonough told them that they had not made the right decision, that he and they did not know much about unions, and that he wanted his attorney to address them. Beaty entered the room. He spoke on a number of subjects in the area of labor relations, and in some instances his remarks were prompted by questions from McDonough and employees. It is unnecessary to make detailed findings concerning Beaty's remarks. It suffices to say that Beaty, in addition to addressing the employees, asked what bargaining unit they desired and whether they wanted union representation. As Beaty testified, the employees were naturally hesitant to say whether they favored a union, but at the end of the meeting he told them that he had obtained enough information so that the Respondent "knew what group [unit] they were talking about, and that all of the people within that group were . . . willing to go along and that is all [the Respondent] needed." Beaty testified further, however, that he did not recall that any union was mentioned by name during the meeting, that he thought the employees had in mind Local 76, and that when he later received a copy of Local 1241's petition "questions arose con- cerning the union and the unit." During the meeting, McDonough said to employees that he could buy windows and close the shop. He said too that the Respondent could discharge employees and that the Union could do nothing about it .7 During and after the meeting, Young made unsuccessful attempts to reach McDonough by telephone. He telephoned the plant and asked to speak with McDonough. A female employee who answered the telephone said that McDonough was attending a meeting, and Young gave his name and number with the request that McDonough call him upon leaving the meeting. Later Young called the plant again and was told by the employee that McDonough had been given the message but that McDonough had left the plant for the day.8 Young promptly advised Robinson of his inability to talk with McDonough. Robinson, who was in Kansas City where the Board's Regional Office is located, filed a petition on behalf of Local 1241 late that afternoon. The next day, according to Beaty, he again attempted unsuccessfully to telephone Young at the latter's office. Beaty's testimony does not disclose whether there was an answer. Young continued his efforts to telephone McDonough, but was un- successful. On the following Monday, September 19, Beaty and Young talked by telephone. Young told Beaty of having tried to talk with McDonough on September 16 and over the weekend, and asked for the Respondent's decision concerning recog- nition. Beaty questioned the appropriateness of the unit and refused recognition. Young said that an election would be sought .9 9 Beaty testified that he thought that before the meeting of September 16 McDonough did not know whether the Union represented a majority of employees in the window shop. 7 The findings that McDonough spoke of buying windows and of discharging employees is based upon the testimony of employees. McDonough was not questioned concerning remarks which employees attributed to him on this occasion, but, as already noted, he denied that he threatened employees at any time. Beaty did not acknowledge or deny that the remarks attributed to McDonough were made after Beaty entered the meeting room. Also present on behalf of management were Office Manager Fluffmaster, Foreman Witt, and Veryl Edwards, another supervisor, but none of those three persons testified concerning remarks made during the meeting. 8 These findings are based upon Young's testimony. On the other hand, McDonough testified unconvincingly that, shortly before the meeting began, he had "a vivid memory" that he should let Young and Robinson know by 2 o'clock whether he would "negotiate peacefully," and that he tried unsuccessfully to telephone Young McDonough did not testify whether it had been his intention, if he had spoken with Young, to say that he would negotiate. With respect to Young's attempts to telephone McDonough, the latter did not deny having received the message to call Young. McDonough testified that as soon as the meeting ended he asked Beaty what he should do. McDonough did not testify concerning Beaty's reply. 9 Young testified that Beaty questioned whether "we were the proper bargaining unit or union," be could not recall which. Beaty's testimony conflicts with Young's. Accord- ing to Beaty, although be had been "quite sure" after the meeting of September 16 that the unit desired by employees consisted of those in the window shop, and although the Respondent was "willing to bargain with the union for any unit," he had some un- certainty about the unit, so he said to Young that he would like to meet with Young 670 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD On September 20, Beaty received a copy of the petition which Robinson had filed. He observed that it bore the name of Local 1241, not Local 76, and that it recited that nine production employees constituted an appropriate unit. Beaty, to quote his testimony, knew that there were only seven employees in the window shop and "was not sure which nine they were asking for" and "was concerned about the difference in the local number." He communicated with the Regional Office and asked that a conference be arranged. A date was set, but later the conference was canceled because of the illness of a field examiner. On September 24, the Respondent refused to permit Koepsel, who had been ill, to return to work. This alleged unfair labor practice is discussed below in section III, F. On October 5, a hearing was held in the representation case. The Respondent and the Union did not agree upon the unit, and the issue was left to the Board for determination. On November 7, Floyd Ward, an employee, was discharged. This alleged unfair labor practice is discussed in section III, G, below. About November, the Respondent received 500 windows from an out-of-State manufacturer. The Respondent's normal practice is to make its own windows and the record does not disclose the date of the last occasion upon which the Respondent had purchased windows. Verde Mitchell, an employee since 1955, testified that he could not recall any earlier occasion. During November, after receipt of the 500 windows, Foreman Witt told McLinn that the windows had been purchased at a cheap price and that McDonough did not need the window shop because he could purchase windows or lease the necessary equipment to someone who would make windows for him.1o On December 7, the Board issued a Decision and Director of Election in the representation case, finding an appropriate unit which is described hereinafter and directing that the Regional Director conduct an election. On December 12, in anticipation of the election, McDonough called a meeting of employees in the appropriate unit. Among those present were a number of new employees who had been hired during the latter part of the year to fill several posi- tions created by an increased demand for storm windows and to replace several employees in the window shop whose employment had been terminated. There was some discussion concerning the employees' production, but the principal subject of discussion was the Union. McDonough testified that he had been advised by Attor- ney Beaty that he could campaign and give his viewpoint on the Union after an elec- tion had been scheduled and that his attitude toward the Union had become unfavor- able because, no matter how many new employees he hired, operating costs were increasing, production was not, and there was "a pretty sorry state of affairs." During the meeting, using a blackboard for notations, McDonough called for a discussion of the "pros and cons." Several employees spoke of their desire for improved work- ing conditions and representation by the Union. Insofar as appears, no employee spoke against union representation. McDonough told the employees that he did not have to bargain with the Union and that he could buy windows. "To prove a point," "to ascertain exactly what unit the union wanted and to start talking about a contract " Beaty testified further that Young did not ask for recognition but, instead, refused to meet with him by replying that there was nothing to discuss because the Union had filed a petition. In addition, Beaty testified that he was unaware of the interest of Local 1241, that he thought then that only Local 76 was interested, that in talking with Young he granted recognition to "the union [he] thought was Painters Local 76," and that later that day he advised McDonough that "we had recognized the union" and that McDonough could not lawfully change the working conditions of employees in the window shop or discuss changes with them Beaty testified further that it was his "position at all times after September 19 and prior to the 29th of December (the date of an election] we had recognized the union and were willing to bargain with them at any time," and that the only purpose which the Union had in seeking an election after he had offered recognition, insofar as he could understand, was to obtain a certification by the Board I cannot credit Beaty's testimony that he offered recognition and that Young refused to meet to discuss a unit and a contract In the first place, in view of Young's efforts to talk with McDonough about recognition, it is unrealistic to conclude that Young would have re- jected an offer to discuss a contract. Secondly, the Respondent says in its brief (which was prepared by Beaty's co-counsel) that Beaty did not make himself clear to Young Thus, according to the brief, Beaty was "confusing the terms 'recognition' and 'agreeing to a consent election.' . He was willing to recognize the Union and the unit for the purposes of a consent election" only. 10 This finding is based upon the uncontradicted testimony of McLinn 'Witt was not a witness. See footnote 30, infra. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 671 said McDonough , he had bought 500 windows and did not need the window shop ii December 12 was a Monday. Shortly after the meeting that day, McDonough asked Nichols and McLinn to have the Union 's representatives , Robinson and Young, come to the plant on the next Monday , December 19. McDonough said: "We don't know too much about the union , and ask them if they will come down and fill us in on this. " Nichols and McLinn agreed , but they did not inform Robinson or Young of McDonough 's request because, on December 15, they and all other full-time employees in the window shop were laid off, as discussed below. On December 14, a field examiner wrote the Respondent that the election would be conducted on December 29. On December 15, Supervisor Edwards engaged Nichols in discussion . Edwards asked the identity of the employees ' spokesman, and Nichols answered that there was no spokesman . Edwards expressed his view con- cerning a probable outcome of the election and asked that Nichols make a prediction. Nichols declined . Edwards said that McDonough did not "want the union and he don't have to have this shop , he can shut it down anytime . . . and buy his windows elsewhere ." Nichols answered that that was McDonough's "business ," and Edwards said that he and McDonough would infer that Nichols was for the Union . Edwards added that "if the union did get in that you [Nichols] wouldn't have any security" and that Edwards "could make it a lot rougher on you than it is. " Nichols replied: "I don 't know how you can make it any rougher on me than it is now." 12 Later on December 15, Foreman Witt told Lester Rickards , an employee, that the Respondent was 500 to 600 "units behind" in production . Witt told Nichols that about 300 old model windows had to be manufactured and that a change from new to old dies would be made that day.13 Near the end of the workday, various em- ployees were laid off , and in this connection it is necessary to recite that some em- ployees in the window shop worked under individual written contracts called "Belo" contracts . A Belo contract provides inter alia for payment of a specified hourly wage to an employee for the first 40 hours per week, and a higher rate for hours above 40, with a guarantee that the employee will .be paid for 52 hours in any workweek in which he works at all. December 15, a Thursday, was the end of a workweek , and any employees in the window shop except those hired after the Union 's request for recognition , who had not been asked to execute Belo contracts, would have been entitled to pay for 52 hours if they had been permitted to work, on December 16 or later in the workweek which began that day. On December 15, McDonough decided to lay off employees . He telephoned Attorney Beaty , saying, so Beaty testified , that "they were out of work" and asking if there was "any reason why he couldn't lay off everybody in the window shop" and other employees, to which Beaty responded that Beaty knew of no "reason why he could not." McDonough laid off the window shop employees , two telephone solicitors , a switch- board operator , a clerk and a sales manager, and terminated a contract with an advertising agency. Within a week , McDonough also laid off two installers. The question whether the Respondent , in making the layoffs of union adherents, was 11 The findings concerning remarks at the meeting are based upon the testimony of several employees who attended . One such employee , Dennis Dye , was a witness for the Respondent . Present at the meeting as representatives of management were Foreman Witt who was not a witness and Supervisor Edwards whose testimony was confined to other subjects McDonough testified , as already noted, that he never threatened any employee in connection with the Union . He testified also that on December 12 there was "discussion of the pros and cons of the union, advantages and disadvantages," and that be explained to employees that he had "formerly [ some years earlier] bought win- dows fully assembled from a manufacturer , that the [window ] shop was operated as a convenience to the sales force, that the sales force was supporting the entire organization, and that if the economic condition got so tight that it became more feasible and prac- tical for our company to buy assembled windows instead of building our own , that is what we would do." The Respondent , in its brief , argues that McDonough ' s remarks olm December 12 and earlier about the possibility of terminating the work of the window shop, were "simply a statement that in effect says if an outsider forces us to raise wages faster than the Company can absorb them, the Company might be forced to close its plant " I cannot accept this contention . In addition to the testimony of employees which disputes it, other remarks and actions of McDonough , Witt, and Edwards convince me that McDonough did not limit himself to noncoercive arguments but was determined' 'to use threats and other means to combat the organizational activity 19 The findings concerning this conversation are based upon Nichols' uncontradicted' testimony . Edwards, a witness for the Respondent , did not testify concerning the conversation. 13 These findings are based upon the uncontradicted testimony of Rickards and Nichols. 672 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD motivated by valid business considerations or by the employees' union activity is discussed in section III, E, below. The Belo contracts contain provisions that they may be terminated by either party upon 1 week's notice. There had been no notice of layoff to the employees. On December 21, McDonough initiated a telephone conversation with Nichols con- cerning the latter's insurance . During the conversation, McDonough inquired whether Nichols had obtained other employment, and Nichols answered in the nega- tive, asking if McDonough thought that the employees should have been given "a week's notice on the contract." McDonough answered that Nichols was "just in .. . layoff" status and that McDonough could "be just as dirty as you guys because you hit me in the back." 14 On December 20, the Respondent reinstated three of the laid-off employees, Gary Brown, Melvin Cassity, and Clarence Rutan, who were relatively new employees, having been hired after the Union's request for recognition, and who had not signed Belo contracts. Within a day or so, McDonough sought advice from Attorney Beaty. The Respondent's testimony is that McDonough told Beaty that there was enough work to keep a few persons busy for a few days before Christmas and that McDonough did not know just how much work there would be, and asked whether he could recall the employees who worked under Belo contracts and pay them only for the hours actually worked. According to the Respondent, Beaty answered that any such em- ployee who returned to work would have to be paid for 52 hours and that McDonough must not discuss the terms of the Belo contracts with employees except in the pres- ence of a union representative. On December 23, five additional employees were reinstated, no more than one of whom had worked under a Belo contract.15 One of the five, Cheney, had been called to the plant the day before and had had separate conversations with McDonough and Edwards. In the conversation with McDonough, Cheney was asked what he thought of the Union, to which he responded that he did not know much about it, and McDonough said that if Cheney wished to work and "help [McDonough] out the best" he could, Cheney could have a job as long as he desired. In the conversation with Edwards, Cheney was asked whether he had at- tended any union meetings . Cheney answered affirmatively. Edwards asked the identities of employees who had attended the last meeting and Cheney named seven or eight. Edwards asked what had been said at the meeting, and Cheney replied that the employees had been told that they could obtain better pay and collective bargaining, but that Cheney did not know whether this was so . Edwards said that he thought there would be enough work so that no more layoffs would occur.16 On December 23, McDonough had separate conversations with three of the laid- off employees who had worked under Belo contracts and who had returned to the plant to receive Christmas presents from the Respondent. In none of the conversa- tions, insofar as appears, was a contract or a return to work discussed. McDonough told McLinn, in substance, that the payment of dues to the Union was a waste of money and that "a smart man realizes his mistakes." McLinn volunteered that he had not changed his favorable attitude toward the Union. With respect to the per- sons whom McDonough was reinstating, McDonough said that he wanted people who would work for him. Another employee with whom McDonough talked that day is Rickards. McDonough asked how Rickards felt about the Union. Rickards said that he had not changed his favorable opinion. The third employee is Nichols. McDonough asked if Nichols would have a "good Christmas," and Nichols an- swered that he had been laid off without "even a week's notice." McDonough said that he did not "have to keep you guys on the payroll" or bargain with the Union, that he had "spent over $700 for lawyers fighting the union," that he had been un- able to maintain sales and that was the reason for the lack of work, and that he was mailing a letter to employees which Nichols should consider before voting in the election.17 The letter to which McDonough referred, a copy of which was sent to each employee in the appropriate unit, is a lengthy, carefully worded argument which was made for the expressed purpose of causing "the defeat of the union [by] a landslide." U The findings concerning this conversation are based upon the uncontradicted testi- mony of Nichols. McDonough did not testify concerning the conversations. m The five are Donald Cheney, Dennis Dye, Paul Lafort, Herman Puetz, and Warren Gamble. Puetz, a saw operator, signed a union card on September 14 and may have worked under a Belo contract. McDonough testified, however, that no employee who worked under such a contract was recalled until after the election on December 29. 16 The findings concerning Cheney's conversations with McDonough and Edwards are based upon Cheney's uncontradicted testimony. 17 The findings concerning McDonough's conversations with McLinn, Rickards, and .Nichols are based upon the uncontradicted testimony of those employees. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 673 On December 29, the election was held. The result was inconclusive, there having been three votes for the Union, seven against it, and eight challenged ballots. That morning Edwards spoke to Dye and Cheney. To Edwards' question whether they had attended a union meeting the night before, Dye answered in the negative and Cheney answered in the affirmative. Edwards asked Cheney how many persons had attended, and Cheney answered "five or six." Edwards asked what had been said at the meeting , and Cheney answered "nothing much , except" remarks about the balloting and the time of the election . Edwards said : "It looks like you or I didn't learn much by this." 18 On the next day, Cheney was discharged by Edwards. The discharge is discussed under section III , H, below. On Tuesday , January 3 , 1961 , the Union filed its initial charge and on the next day it filed objections to the election . Also on January 3, the Respondent began re- calling employees who had worked under Belo contracts . The contracts were set aside by the Respondent , however, and reinstatements were offered at lower wages. Thus, on January 4, Edwards offered Nichols reinstatement on the Respondent's "conditions only," saying that the Belo contract was being terminated , that Nichols' pay would be reduced to $ 1.10 an hour with no weekly guarantee , that Nichols could "take it or leave it," and that the alternative was to accept the 1 week 's termination notice provided in the Belo contract . Nichols accepted reinstatement . On the same day, McLinn talked with McDonough who offered him the same alternatives . McLinn asked if McDonough could "do better" than the $1 . 10 per hour , and McDonough answered , " . . . take it or leave it ." McLinn accepted . 19 Rickards accepted. Mitchell, who could not return to work on January 5 because of his health, later refused to accept the decrease in wages. His employment was terminated . During February, Koepsel returned to work under the new conditions. On February 9, Nichols and McLinn were discharged. The circumstances are discussed below under section III, I. On February 10, the Regional Director issued a report on the Union 's objections to the election . He recommended that the election be set aside . On February 15, he issued the complaint in this matter . On February 27, the Board vacated the results of the election and dismissed the Union's petition because the complaint alleges a refusal by the Respondent to bargain collectively. C. The refusal to bargain collectively 1. The appropriate unit ; the Union 's majority status There is no dispute , and I find, that all production and maintenance employees at the Respondent 's Wichita plant , excluding office clerical employees , salesmen, serv- icemen , installation men, guards , watchmen , and supervisors as defined in the Act, constitute a unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining within the meaning of Section 9(b) of the Act . There also is no dispute , and I find, that on September 15, 1960 , the unit contained 11 employees , of whom 9 had designated the Union to represent them 20 Accordingly , on September 15 and at all times there- after the Union was the exclusive representative of all employees in the unit for the purposes of collective bargaining. 2. The refusal to bargain The factual recital above leaves no doubt that the Respondent refused to bargain with the Union . On September 15, Robinson asked recognition as representative of the production workers .21 McDonough refused to grant recognition and promptly called a meeting of employees and embarked upon a campaign to destroy the Union's 18 These findings are based upon Cheney's uncontradicted testimony . Dye, a witness for the Respondent , did not testify concerning the conversation . Edwards testified that be inquired of Dye and Cheney as a "Matter of curiosity as to how the election might be going to come out." Edwards did not deny having said, "It looks like you or I didn't learn much by this" 19 These findings are based upon the uncontradicted testimony of Nichols and McLinn. 20 The nine employees who designated the Union are : Billy Cully, Koepsel , Charles Lasley, McLinn, Mitchell, Nichols, Puetz, Rickards, and Ward. The two additional em- ployees are Walt Baker and George Plersol. 11 There is no substantial variance between a unit of production and maintenance workers, found by the Board to be appropriate, and a unit of production workers only. Of the 11 employees in the larger unit on September 15, 1960 (see footnote 20, supra), 8 were assemblers , Koepsel and Puetz were sawmen, and Baker was the janitor 674 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD representative status. Whatever question, if any, McDonough or Beaty may have had about an appropriate unit then or later, it is clear that McDonough 's refusal to bargain was not founded in any such question . Nor did McDonough have doubts about the Union 's majority status. On September 15 he asked the employees to reconsider. They did so and on the next day their committee informed McDonough that they adhered to their desire for union representation . McDonough 's answer was to threaten the two committeemen and to say that he would have another meeting of employees . At that meeting , on September 16, McDonough displayed his unwillingness to bargain by saying to the men that they had not made the right decision and by threatening to close the window shop and to discharge employees. The refusal was thereafter further demonstrated , inter alia , by McDonough 's failure to return Young's telephone call; by Beaty's refusal to grant recognition to the Union ; by McDonough 's act of changing the terms of employment during January 1961 , while simultaneously terminating the Belo contracts , without prior consulta- tion with the Union ; and by repeated acts of interference , restraint , and coercion, as summarized below. I find that the Respondent, by its refusal to recognize and deal with the Union , refused to bargain collectively in violation of Section 8(a)(5) and (1). D. Interference , restraint, and coercion I find that by the following conduct the Respondent independently violated Section 8 (a)(1): First, McDonough's interrogation of employees on September 15 and his threat to close the plant ; his like threat on September 16 to Nichols and McLinn ; his like threat to employees at the September 16 meeting , coupled with a threat to discharge employees ; his like threat at the December 12 meeting when he emphasized the threat by referring to his purchase of 500 windows ; his remark to Nichols on December 21 that he could be just as dirty in dealing with employees as they had been by hitting him in the back ; his inquiry on December 22 of Cheney concerning what Cheney thought of the Union ; his remark to McLinn on December 23 that "a smart man realizes his mistakes"; his inquiry of Rickards on the same day concerning how Rickards felt about the Union ; and his remarks on the same day to Nichols ,that he did not have to keep employees on the payroll or bargain with the Union and that he had "spent over $700 for lawyers fighting" the Union. Second, Edwards' inquiries of Nichols on December 15 and his statements that McDoonugh could close the plant, that he and McDonough would infer that Nichols favored the Union , that Nichols would lose security "if the union did get in," and that he could make it a lot rougher on Nichols ; Edwards' inquiries of Cheney on December 22 concerning the Union and a union meeting , his inquiries of Dye and Cheney on December 29 concerning another union meeting, and his remark to Cheney that "It looks like you or I didn't learn much by this." Third, Witt's inqui- ries of Koepsel on September 16 concerning organizational activities and Koepsel's attitude toward the Union, and Witt's remark to McLinn during November that McDonough did not need the window shop because he could purchase windows. E. The layoffs on December 15, 1960 We have seen that on December 15 the Respondent laid off employees who worked in and outside the appropriate unit . Within the unit, all but two employees were laid off. Included were all employees who had signed union cards and whose employ- ment had not been terminated earlier, as well as all other full-time employees in the window shop 22 The complaint alleges that the layoffs of McLinn , Mitchell, Nichols, and Rickards were invalid . The complaint does not allege invalidity respect- ing the other layoffs. The General Counsel , pointing to the Respondent 's hostility toward the employees' organizational efforts, asserts that the layoffs of the four named employees were motivated by such hostility. On the other hand, the Respondent asserts that it was motivated solely by a lack of work for employees in and outside the unit . In support of its position, the Respondent introduced in evidence certain statistical data. A portion of the data shows the number of windows and the number of doors which were manufactured, as well as the numbers which were delivered , in each of the last 4 months of 1959 and 1960. In comparing the figures for 1959 with those for 1960, I see no sizable difference except in the months of December , and the decreased 22 The two employees in the unit who were not laid off are Piersol and Baker. The card signers who were laid off are McLinn , Mitchell , Nichols, Puetz , and Rickards The card signers whose employment had been terminated earlier are Koepsel, Ward, Cully, and Lasley. We have no issue concerning Cully and Lasley SAM THE WINDOW MAN 675 production and delivery figures for December 1960 may be attributed to the fact that the window shop was closed for a portion of that month because of the layoffs. Additional data reflects the profit or loss for each of the last 4 months of 1959 and 1960. These figures show that there was a smaller profit for the months of Septem- ber and October 1960 than for the corresponding months of 1959, that there was a net loss during November and December 1960, and that there was a net loss of $3,363 for the last 4 months of 1960 as compared with a profit of about $16,000 for the corresponding months of 1959. The data discloses nothing with respect to the profit or loss for either entire calendar year, however, nor is there any information relative to the nature of the expenditures and losses for 1960. 1 conclude that the data does not substantially support the Respondents position. For instance, the monetary figures which show a net loss for the last 4 months of 1960 do not find support in the other figures which relate to quantity of windows and doors which were manufactured and delivered during the same period. Too, the Respondent's failure to recite the nature of its expenses during the last 4 months of 1960, in explanation of its net loss, does not eliminate the possibility that there were large expenditures not ordinarily incurred as, for instance, substantial bonuses or salary increases to the corporate officers. I conclude that the Respondent laid off McLinn, Mitchell, Nichols, and Richards because of their union adherence. I conclude also that the Respondent was similarly motivated in first reinstating other employees of lesser seniority who had not signed union cards. There are several reasons. First, various facts disprove the Re- spondent's contention that valid business considerations prompted the layoffs. The statistical data, upon analysis, does not support the Respondent's position that there was a scarcity of work, and McDonough's testimony that such considerations moti- vated him in making the layoffs must be rejected because he was an unreliable witness in various instances. Too, Foreman Witt told several employees that there was work to be done; e.g., on December 15 he told Rickards and Nichols that the Respondent was behind in production, as recited above, and on December 12 he made like re- marks to McLinn, Mitchell, and Nichols 23 Moreover, the plant ordinarily is busy during December, and only 3 days before the layoffs Paul Lafort, who had worked for the Respondent upon earlier occasions, was put to work in the window shop The Respondent's need for increased production had been reflected in the number of hours worked by employees in the window shop. For an undisclosed period of time before December 9, the employees worked a 60-hour week. For the workweek beginning on that day, the Respondent reduced the number of hours to 461/2, and Supervisor Witt and Edwards told employees that the reduction was on a trial basis for 1 week and that, if production in quantity could not be maintained, the employees "would have to go back to the long hours." 24 Second, McDonough's decision to lay off employees was made suddenly on the day after the Regional Office mailed a letter fixing the date for the election, and there was no advance notice of layoff to the employees. Third, although the complaint does not allege that more than four employees were invalidly laid off, and the Respondent points out that "a substantial number" of additional employees were affected, the fact is that the persons laid off included everyone who had signed a union card and remained on the payroll, as well as nearly everyone who was expected to vote in the coming election.25 The layoffs obviously were calculated to have an effect upon the voters. Fourth, the Respondent's hostility toward employees who were union adherents is clearly established by the violations of Section 8(a)(1) and (5), particularly by the threats of McDonough and supervisors to discharge employees and to close the 2' McLinn, Mitchell, and Nichols so testified without contradiction 2A As noted, the Belo contracts guaranteed to employees pay for 52 hours It does not appear that the employees were paid for only 461/2 hours during the workweek ending December 15 250f the nine card signers named in footnote 20, supra, Koepsel, Ward, Lasley, and Cully were no longer carried on the payroll. McLinn, Mitchell, Nichols, Puetz, and Rickards were laid off. At the election on December 29, according to the written state- ment which McDonough gave to the General Counsel, the Respondent challenged the ballots of Koepsel, McLinn, Nichols, and Rickards while an unidentified person or persons challenged the ballots of Mitchell, Plersol, and Lafort. The eighth challenged voter is unidentified in this record. McDonough's written statement, dated January 25, 1961, recites further that the Respondent "concedes" that McLinn, Mitchell, Nichols, Plersol, and Rickards are "all eligible to vote" and that the Respondent "withdraws such of these challenges as were made by" it. 641795-63-vol 136-44 676 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD window shop, by McDonough's remark to Nichols after the layoff that McDonough could "be just as dirty as you guys because you hit me in the back," by McDonough's remark to McLinn after the layoff that McDonough was reinstating persons who would work for him, and by McDonough's remark to Nichols after the layoff that he did not "have to keep you guys on the payroll" or bargain with the Union and that he had "spent over $700 for lawyers fighting" the Union. Fifth, I cannot credit the Respondent's main contentions concerning the pro- vision in the Belo contracts which required payment to an employee for 52 hours' work in any workweek in which the employee worked at all. According to the Re- spondent, there was such a lack of work that it would have been unable to keep a man busy in the window shop for 52 hours at the date of layoffs or soon thereafter when reinstatements began and, following the advice of Attorney Beaty, it selected for recall the relatively new employees to whom it was not bound by Belo contracts. I accept the Respondent's contention that, so long as the contracts were in force, the Respondent was bound by the minimum pay provisions, but I am convinced that the Respondent did not believe in good faith that the contracts, coupled with Beaty's advice, dictated the course of action which the Respondent followed. I am con- vinced too that the Respondent had a discriminatory purpose in not asking the Union to agree to set aside the Belo contracts for the period that the Respondent says that work was scarce, i.e., that the Respondent wanted the existence of the contracts to be a cloak behind which to conceal its intent to discriminate against union ad- herents. Thus, the Respondent followed Beaty's advice only insofar as the advice coincided with McDonough's desires, and refrained from terminating the Belo con- tracts only so long as it suited McDonough to have them in effect. McDonough testified that Beaty advised him initially to recognize the Union if it had a majority status. The Union possessed such status, as McDonough learned from employees before and after he asked them to reconsider, but he chose to disregard Beaty's advice and to seek to undermine the Union. Too. Beaty did not advise McDonough that the Belo contracts were not subject to modification under any circumstances. Beaty advised instead that a modification must follow collective bargaining, not individual bargaining as theretofore. Upon an earlier occasion, before the advent of the Union, McDonough and Koepsel mutually agreed to set aside Koepsel's con- tract temporarily while he worked less than 52 hours a week. After the advent of the Union, Beaty advised the Respondent to make no changes without first discussing the matter with the Union. McDonough chose not to discuss the Belo contracts with the Union before laying off employees. Somewhat later, after the election had been held, McDonough dealt with employees individually in terminating the Belo con- tracts. He called in employees who had worked under such contracts and offered them less favorable terms of employment on a "take it or leave it" basis.26 I do not believe that the election's result freed the Respondent from an obligation to discuss with the Union the termination of the Belo contracts. If the Union had lost the election, the outcome would not have been controlling because the Respondent's unfair labor practices were designed to affect the election. But even if we dis- regard the unfair labor practices for the moment, and look solely at the election's result, the fact is that the result was inconclusive. This is so because the challenged ballots were sufficient in number to determine the outcome. The election did not resolve any issue, and the Respondent may not successfully argue that the election freed it of an obligation to deal with the Union. In summary, I find that the lay- offs of McLinn, Mitchell, Nichols, and Rickards violated Section 8(a)(3) and (1). F. The refusal to reinstate Koepsel During the summer of 1960, Koepsel received a leave of absence due to illness. Soon after the employees organized and he had signed a union card, he unsuccess- fully sought to be reinstated. The issue is whether he was denied reinstatement during September because of his union adherence or because of his inability to work the long hours of employees in the window shop. On September 16, as recited, Foreman Witt telephoned Koepsel, inquired what Koepsel knew of the organizational activities, and learned that Koepsel favored union representation. On the same day, Koepsel came to the plant to attend the meeting at which McDonough and Beaty addressed the employees. After the meeting, he talked with McDonough and Supervisor Edwards about returning to work. Edwards suggested, and Koepsel agreed, that Koepsel work to the extent that he was able, that he be paid only for the hours worked, and that the Belo con- 2G McDonough was advised by Attorney Beaty, so Beaty testified , "after the election was held and ... the union had no majority status ," that McDonough could cancel the Belo contracts. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 677 tract be set aside temporarily as had occurred during March 1960 when Koepsel had been unable to work fulltime. On September 24, Koepsel's physician informed him that he could return to work for a maximum of 8 hours daily. On the same day, however, Edwards told Koepsel that he was to be replaced "for health reasons only and not because of the union." Koepsel then talked with McDonough who said that employees would work a 60-hour week, and Koepsel replied that he was able to work only 40 hours at that time but soon would have the strength to work 60. McDonough said, "Why fight it, why don't you just accept it and let it go at that?" Koepsel, who ordinarily operated a saw but who had performed varied tasks for the Respondent in past years, asked to be given assignments which would not require him to work 60 hours weekly. Mc- Donough said that he would think about it 27 During February 1961, after the election, McDonough wrote to Koepsel, saying that he had heard that Koepsel was able to return to work and that Koepsel would be reinstated if Koepsel could obtain a physician's approval. Koepsel received the approval. On February 14, Koepsel's Belo contract was terminated and he returned to work at a reduced hourly wage. In its brief, the Respondent asserts that during September it offered to reinstate Koepsel on less than a 60-hour a week basis, that, however, it withdrew its offer and refused reinstatement because Koepsel was unable to work a 60-hour week, and that it acted on the advice of Attorney Beaty that it "not make any exception on Belo contracts." The Respondent's testimony does not support its assertion. Beaty tes- tified that Edwards telephoned him for advice and that Edwards wanted to put Mr. Koepsel back to work part time and pay him only for the hours he spent, and I advised Mr. Edwards that in my opinion [Edwards] could not do that because there was a Belo contract and [Edwards] could not discuss the Belo contract with Mr. Koepsel, [Edwards] had to do it with the union, and neither could [Edwards] discuss the contract with Mr. Koepsel ... without the union being present. Obviously, there was work available for Koepsel on a 40-hour a week basis until such time as Koepsel's health would permit him to work longer hours. Obviously too, according to Beaty, Edwards expressed a desire to offer such employment to Koepsel if there was no barrier in the provision of the Belo contract that an em- ployee be paid for a minimum of 52 hours, but Beaty advised that the matter of temporarily setting aside the minimum pay provision of the Belo contract would have to be discussed with the Union, or with Koepsel in the Union's presence, before such employment could be offered to Koepsel. The Respondent chose not to discuss the subject with the Union and not to inform Koepsel of Beaty's advice. It chose instead to have Koepsel believe that reemployment was being denied, not because of the Respondent's unwillingness to deal with the Union, but because of Koepsel's temporary inability to work longer than 40 hours weekly. We have here a clear violation of Section 8(a)(3) and (1). On September 15, the Union requested recog- nition . The Respondent invalidly refused it. On September 24, Koepsel was denied reinstatement solely because the Respondent was unwilling to comply with its statutory duty to ask the Union to approve setting aside Koepsel's Belo contract temporarily. G. The discharge of Ward Ward was employed during January 1960. On September 12, he signed a union card. November 5, a workday, was the opening day of the pheasant hunting season. Ward went hunting. On November 7, he was discharged. The question is whether he was discharged for having gone hunting after a request for time off had been denied or because he was a union adherent. The answer turns upon resolutions of credibility. On November 5, various employees and representatives of management went bunting. It does not appear, however, that any such employee was paid for the time so spent . Ward was the only employee under a Belo contract who hunted that day. Attorney Beaty testified that a few days before November 5, McDonough inquired whether McDonough could give employees time off with pay to go hunting and that Beaty advised that he should not do so because he might be accused of offering an inducement to employees in view of the situation involving the Union. "The findings concerning Koepsel's conversations with Edwards and McDonough are based upon Koepsel's testimony. McDonough testified that he told Koepsel that the win- dow shop was on a workweek "in excess of 46% hours," that both he and Koepsel knew that even longer hours were in prospect, and that Koepsel would be reinstated upon receiving medical approval to work full time. 678 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD According to the Respondent, it refused to give time off for hunting to employees under Belo contracts because, to have done so, might have been to favor them with time off with pay 28 The principal question is whether Ward received permission to be absent from work on November 5. He testified that about October 20 he told Foreman Witt that he would like to be off on November 5, that he did not give a reason, that Witt nodded but said nothing, and that he could not recall having heard anything more about his request or that employees under Belo contracts would not be excused from work to go hunting on November 5. Ward's testimony concerning his conversation with Witt is undenied by Witt, who was not a witness. On the other hand, Ward did not impress me as a reliable witness when testifying about his discharge, and other evidence supports the defense. Rickards, who was a witness for the General Counsel on other issues, returned to the stand as a witness for the Respondent. He testified that shortly before November 5 Witt told employees that there would be no time off to go hunting, that it was a matter of common knowledge in the plant that such time off would not be granted but that Ward intended to go hunting, and that on Novem- ber 4 Rickards overheard Ward tell Witt that Ward intended to go hunting, to which Witt replied that Ward might not have a job when he returned. I credit Rickards' testimony. Although the record clearly establishes the Respondent's hostility toward employees who were union adherents, the record also establishes that the Respondent refused to give Ward time off to go hunting, that Witt warned Ward that Ward might lose his job if he should go, that Ward nevertheless did go, and that he was promptly discharged. I find that Ward's discharge was not in violation of the Act. H. The discharge of Cheney Cheney was hired about November 8, 1960. He was among the employees who were laid off on December 15. Thereafter he attended two union meetings. As found above, on December 22 he was called to the plant where he had separate conversations with McDonough and Edwards in which he was asked about a union meeting and his attitude toward the Union. McDonough said to Cheney that if he wished to work and to help McDonough, he could have a job as long as he desired. On December 23, he returned to work. On December 29, the day of the election, Cheney was questioned again by Edwards. As already recited, Edwards, upon learn- ing that Cheney had attended another union meeting, said that "It looks like you or I didn't learn much by this." On December 30, Edwards discharged Cheney. Cheney is one of six persons whom the Respondent hired during November 1960, who worked in the appropriate unit, who were laid off on December 15, and who were reinstated on December 20 and 23. Of the six, Cheney and Warren Gamble were laid off again on December 30. Edwards laid off Cheney with the statement that business was decreasing and that Edwards had selected "the best crew" to be retained 28 In deciding the question whether Cheney was laid off on December 30 because he had attended two union meetings, as the General Counsel contends, or because he was less efficient than employees who were retained, as the Respondent contends, I assume arguendo that valid business considerations dictated the layoff of two employees on December 30. I believe, however, that Cheney was selected for layoff because of his attendance -at union meetings. There are two reasons. First, Cheney was a glasscutter. After his recall to work on December 22 he became the principal glasscutter because Nichols, who was the most experienced man in that work, remained in layoff status. One of the four new employees who were retained in preference to Cheney is Dennis Dye who had done little glasscutting. Edwards' testimony concerning his decisions on whom to lay off and whom to retain, recited in footnote 29, supra, does not contain facts upon which one can intelligently con- clude that Cheney was less qualified than the four employees who were retained. Second, on December 22, Cheney was questioned by Edwards concerning the only union meeting which Cheney had attended, and on the same day McDonough told Cheney that Cheney could have a job as long as he desired if he would work and help McDonough. One week later, Edwards questioned Cheney and Dye about 29 As recited, the Belo contracts guarantee pay for a minimum of 52 hours, weekly. If Saturday, November 5, had been the end of a workweek, an employee who -already had worked 52 hours could have gone hunting on November 5 without expectation of compen- sation for that day. But November 5 was the second day of a workweek 2D Edwards testified that the layoffs of Cheney and Gamble were in anticipation of the reinstatement of the men who had worked under Belo contracts and that his deciisons on the layoffs were based on merit. , SAM THE WINDOW MAN 679 a union meeting of December 28, and Edwards learned that Cheney, but not Dye, had attended. Edwards' reaction to Cheney's answers to his questions was to say, "It looks like you or I didn't learn much by this." The quoted remark was coercive because, reasonably construed, it meant that Cheney had not learned from past events that he should not attend union meetings. In view of the Respondent's numerous unfair labor practices, including particularly Edwards' invalid conduct, plus the Respondent's determination to remove all union adherents from its payroll, and the fact that Cheney was then the most experienced glasscutter, I find that Cheney's discharge was violative of Section 8(a) (3) and (1). 1. The discharge of McLinn and Nichols As recited above, on December 15 McLinn and Nichols were laid off with other window shop employees, and on January 5 they were reinstated. On February 9 they were discharged along with two antiunion employees, Dye and Lafort. Earlier that day Attorney Beaty met jointly with the four employees and others, and sep- arately with McDonough, about an incident which had occurred in the plant. Beaty then informed the four employees that they were discharged. The Respondent as- serts that McLinn and Nichols were discharged because their union views and actions caused them to become intolerable to other employees and to be disruptive of discipline and production. On the morning of the discharges, Nichols spoke to Foreman Witt about Koepsel who was seeking reinstatement. Nichols asked if Witt knew that Koepsel was coming to the plant to see McDonough. Witt answered in the negative. Later that morning, Nichols asked Witt if he was curious about Koepsel's return to work. Witt lost his temper, drew back his fist, and threatened to hit Nichols "between the eyes." Nichols told Witt to cease threatening him, and there were no blows.30 In another incident that morning, Dye resented conduct by Nichols and McLinn. According to Dye's testimony for the Respondent, those two union adherents "started bringing up this union deal," said that it "looked to them like somebody wouldn't be working" there any longer, and saying these words: "So long, it has been good to know you." Dye testified also that he believed that the remarks of Nichols and McLinn had been directed at him but that he did not "know for sure." The record does not disclose how this incident came to management's attention. Later that day, Witt talked to McDonough. According to the latter, Witt told him of "a ruckus . . . [which] almost led to fisticuffs," and apologized to McDon- ough.' After hearing Witt's report, McDonough, so he testified, called Beaty and asked Beaty to come to the plant and make an investigation in order to advise McDonough how to "put a stop to the bickering and agitation and problems that we had been enduring in the shop for the last two or three months." Beaty came to the plant and met with a group consisting of McDonough, Witt, Nichols, McLinn, Dye, and Lafort. According to Beaty, he began his inquiry by telling Witt and the employees that McDonough had told him that there had been trouble in the plant that morning and by asking Witt for Witt's version. Witt's 30 The findings concerning the incident are based upon the uncontradicted testimony of Nichols and McLinn Witt did not testify. After the Incident, Nichols swore out a criminal complaint against Witt, alleging assault and battery. At the time of the hear- ing herein, Witt had not been prosecuted The Respondent's explanation for not calling Witt as a witness was that it did not wish testimony by Witt to be developed in this ease which later might be used in cross-examining Witt in the misdemeanor case. The Respondent moved that I restrict Witt's cross-examination to the area of any direct examination which it might develop. The General Counsel objected, and I denied the motion, pointing out inter alma that the fact that the transcript, which is a public docu- ment, might be used in the prosecution of Witt was an inadequate reason for denying to the General Counsel the right to examine Witt on any issue as to which Witt was qualified to testify. Witt then was not called to the stand. With respect to the reason why Witt lost his temper in speaking with Nichols, the incident was observed by McLinn who testified that Witt said that he had been offended because he had thought that Nichols, in effect, had called him a liar. On the other hand, Beaty testified that Witt told Beaty that "Nichols had been goading him . . . for some little time," that Nichols had spoken of the Union's forcing McDonough to reinstate Koepsel, that Witt "asked Nichols to quit . . . 'shooting off his mouth' to the other employees . .. that Nichols refused and that it continued . . . and [that Witt] lost his temper.. . Beaty's testi- mony concerning remarks between Witt and Nichols, while admissible to show information acquired by Beaty before Beaty gave advice to McDonough, is hearsay and of no probative value in determining what occurred between Witt and Nichols outside Beaty's presence 680 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD response, as recited by Beaty, is described in footnote 30, supra. Next, so Beaty, testified, Nichols confirmed Witt's version, after which Nichols and Witt apologized to each other. At that point, according to Beaty, he told the four employees that there had been "reports concerning irritation, friction, loss of production, bull ses- sions, all sorts of trouble in the plant between those four," whereupon "They all admitted it." Beaty testified further that McLinn was the only one who denied that production had been adversely affected by the friction, that Beaty learned from the employees that McLinn and Nichols, advocates of the Union, and Dye and Lafort, opponents, had been annoying or vexing one another, that such conduct was displayed in Beaty's presence when Nichols called Dye, a youth of 20 years, "a baby," and that the situation prompted Beaty to ask the four employees whether they could work together without friction. All except Nichols answered affirma- tively, according to Beaty, but then Nichols "started talking some more" and was told by McLinn to "shut up," at which point Dye said that he could not get along with Nichols and McLinn "if they kept talking to him about the union all the time," and Lafort said that "all he wanted was to be left alone" and that, if not left alone, "he wasn't going to say that he could get along with" Nichols and McLinn. Beaty testified further that McLinn then said that Beaty should be sure that his "advice to McDonough was right because there would be trouble if it was not," the meeting "immediately degenerated" with a threat by Nichols to "get" Witt, a display of anger by Lafort, and all employees "complaining to each other," whereupon Beaty and McDonough left the room, and Beaty advised McDonough that there was "absolutely no reason why he should not discharge all the people if he wanted to, and that if he didn't he should just learn to live with it." McDonough decided to discharge the four employees and asked Beaty to inform them. Beaty did so. In addition to Beaty, the Respondent called McDonough, Dye, and Lafort to testify concerning events at the meeting. McDonough's testimony on the subject was brief. Expressed or implied in the testimony of Beaty and McDonough is the con- tention that bickering and friction of a serious nature had existed among employees for 2 or more months and that Nichols and McLinn were substantially at fault. Before turning to the testimony of Dye and Lafort, it may be noted that Witt, the foreman of employees in the bargaining unit, did not testify that there had been any discordant relations among employees. Too, no representative of management had ever reprimanded Nichols or McLinn for talking to employees.31 According to Dye, "people were all the time arguing or discussing" the Union, and the "friction in the shop concerning this union and vote and everything" was due "primarily" to Nichols and McLinn. Dye did not substantiate his testimony by reciting any specific incident involving Nichols or McLinn before the day of the discharges, however, and his memory was poor when he was asked to tell of any occasion when anyone spoke about whether nonunion employees would lose their jobs when the Union "came in." He answered that he remembered such a dis- cussion but that he did not "remember just how it was said or when or who said it." Dye did not testify that he had ever complained to management concerning alleged conduct by Nichols or McLinn. Lafort testified that "in the shop ... it seemed to" him that "everybody was at each others' throats all day long," that there was "daily" bickering "From 8 to 5:30" o'clock, that he was involved in the bickering, that he observed the bickering from the day he began work during December until he was discharged, and that Nichols and McLinn were "trying to agitate everybody in the place to keep them aroused all day long. . . . Lafort could not recall anyone else who "agitated." In substantiation of his testimony, Lafort remembered only one incident, an occasion when Nichols and McLinn allegedly told him that if he did not join the Union he would lose his job because he did not have seniority. It is apparent that Lafort and Dye exag- gerated. Lafort's exaggeration is illustrated further by the fact that Nichols and McLinn were not at work for a substantial period covered by Lafort's testimony. In contrast to his testimony that the bickering was constant from the day he began work, December 12, and that Nichols and McLinn were the only "agitators," the record shows that on December 15 the window shop employees were laid off, that on December 23 Lafort was reinstated, and that on January 5 Nichols and McLinn were reinstated. Of the 40 working days between Lafort's reinstatement and dis- charge, December 23 to February 9, inclusive, Nichols and McLinn were in layoff status for about on-fourth of the time. We turn to the Respondent's evidence concerning the employees', answers to Beaty's question whether they could work without friction. As we have seen, Beaty 31 Nichols and McLinn so testified without contradiction. SAM THE WINDOW MAN 681 testified that at first all but Nichols answered affirmatively but that within a few moments Dye and Lafort changed their answers and said that they could not do so if Nichols and McLinn continued to speak to them about the Union. McDonough testified that McLinn also said that they could not work together in harmony. Lafort testified that all four said that they could not work if conditions then current should continue. Dye recalled that he answered that the employees could work together if the subject of the Union were not "brought up in the shop," but he could not recall the answer of anyone else. On the other hand, Nichols testified for the General Counsel that Beaty asked not only whether the employees could get along in the plant but also whether they could cease talking about the Union, to which he, Nichols, replied in the affirmative, pointing out that the employees had kept quiet about the union movement until the Union's representatives asked McDonough for recognition , and saying that they could be quiet again . McLinn testified for the General Counsel that he replied in the affirmative also. In determining whether Nichols and McLinn were invalidly discharged, it is un- necessary to lengthen this document by reciting fully wherein their testimony con- cerning Beaty's investigation varies from the testimony for the Respondent. A num- ber of considerations dictate the conclusion that Nichols and McLinn were invalidly discharged. First, the Respondent's testimony concerning alleged unprotected activi- ties by these employees is exaggerated and unpersuasive. In addition to the sweeping but unsubstantiated assertions of Dye and Lafort described above, there is the testi- mony by McDonough that there had been "bickering and agitation and problems in the shop for the last two or three months" and there is the testimony by Beaty that he had received "reports concerning irritation, friction, loss of production, bull sessions , all sorts of trouble in the plant between" Nichols and McLinn, on the one hand, and Dye and Lafort, on the other. If Nichols and McLinn were "pri- marily" responsible for friction, as Dye testified, or if they were "trying to agitate everybody" day after day, as Lafort testified, and if the alleged conduct of Nichols and McLinn was outside the protection of the Act, surely the Respondent could have substantiated its all-embracing assertions by pointing to specific incidents of un- protected conduct over a period of 2 or more months. Surely too the Respondent would have reprimanded the offending employees before the day of the discharges. The facts show, however, that neither Nichols nor McLinn was reprimanded or warned, that Witt did not testify that he experienced any difficulties as a supervisor, that there is no evidence that Witt reported any difficulties to McDonough before February 9, and on that day his report was accompanied by an apology to Mc- Donough for his own conduct in assaulting Nichols. In sum , the Respondent's evidence concerning specific activities by Nichols and McLinn, allegedly unpro- tected, is confined to the testimony of Dye and Lafort, already discounted, and to Beaty's testimony that in his presence Nichols called Dye "a baby." 32 Second, in view of the unsubstantial nature of the Respondent's evidence that Nichols and McLinn had engaged in unprotected activities, the testimony of Mc- Donough that he wanted to "put a stop to the bickering and agitation and problems that we had been enduring in the shop for the last two or three months" has signifi- cance when considered in the light of Nichols' and McLinn's protected activities and McDonough's hostility thereto. When the union activity began, Nichols was effec- tive in inducing employees to sign union cards. Nichols' and McLinn's standing as union adherents is shown by (1) their selection by employees as a committee to notify McDonough of the employees' continued desire for union representation, (2) McDonough's selection of Nichols and McLinn to convey to the Union's representa- tives McDonough's suggestion that the representatives come to the plant on Decem- ber 19, and (3 ) the numerous coercive remarks to Nichols and McLinn as, for instance , (a) Edwards' threat to "make it a lot rougher on" Nichols; (b) Mc- Donough's remarks to Nichols while the latter was in layoff status that McDonough could "be just as dirty as you guys" who had "hit [him] in the back," that McDonough did not "have to keep you guys on the payroll," and that McDonough had "spent over $700 for lawyers fighting the union"; and (c) McDonough's remark There is testimony by the Respondent, dented by Nichols, that on February 9 Nichols said that a "war" had been underway in the plant for 3 months The point of this testimony is that Nichols thereby acknowledged that serious friction existed Assuming that Nichols made the remark, I do not believe that it aids the Respondent's case. A bare statement that a "war" had been in progress is not necessarily to be construed as a "war" between union and antiunion factions of employees Such a statement may just as reasonably be construed as a reference to McDonough's efforts to coerce the employees into repudiating their designations of the Union to represent them. 682 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD to McLinn while the latter was in layoff status that "a smart man realizes his mistakes." Third, I cannot credit the Respondent' s contention that Nichols and McLinn told Beaty, in answer to Beaty's question, that they could not work with Dye and Lafort without friction. While two witnesses for the Respondent, McDonough and Lafort, testified that McLinn gave such answer, two other witnesses for the Respondent, Beaty and Dye, did not so testify, and McLinn denied that he said that he could not work without friction. Moreover, Nichols' like denial is accompanied by persuasive testimony that Beaty also asked if the employees could cease talking about the Union and that he said to Beaty that the initial union activities had been kept quiet and that he could keep quiet again . I do not believe that Nichols and McLinn, who had been threatened repeatedly and laid off because of their union activities, would have said that they could not conduct themselves properly in the plant. Fourth, the Respondent places substantial reliance upon Beaty's advice to Mc- Donough that there was "absolutely no reason why he should not discharge" the four employees. Such advice is not a meritorious defense. We do not have here a situation where an employer, just before it discharged employees, was desirous of not violating the law and in good faith sought advice from his attorney as to his rights and responsibilities under the Act. McDonough's earlier conduct belies that situation. Surely Beaty's advice did not give McDonough a meritorious basis for the discharges if such a basis did not already exist, and we have seen that such a basis did not exist. Fifth, the fact that McDonough discharged Dye and Lafort, antiunion employees, simultaneously with Nichols and McLinn does not establish McDonough's bonafides in discharging the union adherents. I believe that Dye and Lafort were victims of McDonough's hostility toward Nichols and McLinn; that is, that McDonough dis- charged Dye and Lafort in an effort to give plausibility to his professed reason for discharging the two union adherents. I find that Nichols and McLinn were dis- charged in violation of Section 8(a) (3) and (1). IV. THE EFFECr OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of the Respondent set forth in section III, above, to the extent found to have been invalid, occurring in connection with the operations of the Respondent described in section I, above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States, and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstructing comerce and the free flow of commerce. V. THE REMEDY Having found that the Respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices, I shall recommend that it cease and desist therefrom and that it take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. It has been found that the Union represented a majority of the employees in the appropriate unit and that the Respondent refused to bargain collectively. Accord- ingly, I shall recommend that the Respondent, upon request, bargain collectively with the Union as the exclusive representative of the employees in the appropriate unit. I shall recommend also that the Respondent offer Cheney, McLinn, and Nichols immediate and full reinstatement to their former or substantially equivalent positions (The Chase National Bank of the City of New York, San Juan, Puerto Rico, Branch, 65 NLRB 827), without prejudice to their seniority or other rights or privileges, and that the Respondent make whole Cheney, Koepsel, McLinn, Mit- chell, Nichols, and Rickards, for any loss of pay they may have suffered as a result of the discrimination against them, by payment to each of them of a sum of money equal to that which he normally would have earned from the date of the discrimina- tion against him 33 to the date of a proper offer of reinstatement,3 4 less his net earn- ings (Crossett Lumber Company, 8 NLRB 440, 497-498) during said period, the payment to be computed on a quarterly basis in the manner established in N.L.R.B. v. Seven-Up Bottling Company of Miami, Inc., 344 U.S. 344. I shall recommend also "The dates of discrimination are- 'Cheney on December 30, 1960; Koepsel on Septem- ber 24, 1960; Mitchell and Rickards on December 15, 1960; and McLinn and Nichols on December 15, 1960, and again on February 9, 1961 84Backpay for Koepsel shall terminate as of February 14, 1961, and shall not include any days between September 24, 1960, and February 14, 1961, when his physician pro- hibited his working at all. Backpay for Mitchell and Rickards shall terminate as of January 5, 1961 . Backpay for McLinn and Nichols during the period of their first dis- crimination shall terminate as of January 5, 1961. YUBA CONSOLIDATED INDUSTRIES, INC. 683 that the Respondent preserve and upon request , make available to the Board or its agents, for examination and copying , all payroll records , social security payment records, timecards , personnel records and reports, and all other records necessary to analyze the amounts of backpay and the rights to reinstatement under the terms .of these Recommendations. In order to make effective the interdependent guarantees of Section 7 of the Act, I shal recommend further that the Respondent cease and desist from infringing in any manner upon the rights guaranteed in said section . N.L.R.B. v. Express Publishing Company, 312 U.S. 426; N.L.R.B. v. Entwistle Mfg. Co., 120 F. 2d 532 (C.A. 4). Upon the basis of the above findings of fact and upon the entire record in the case, I make the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. 2. All production and maintenance employees at the Respondent 's Wichita plant, excluding office clerical employees , salesmen , servicemen , installation men, guards, watchmen , and supervisors as defined in the Act, constitute a unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining. 3.. On September 15, 1960, the Union was, and at all times thereafter has been, the exclusive representative of all employees in such unit for the purposes of col- lective bargaining. 4. By refusing to bargain collectively, by discouraging membership in a labor organization through discrimination in employment , and by interfering with, re- straining , and coercing employees in the exercise of their rights under the Act, the Respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices affecting com- merce within the meaning of Section 8 ( a) (5), (3), and ( 1) and Section 2 ( 6) and (7). 5. The allegations of the complaint that the Respondent invalidly discharged Floyd Ward have not been sustained. [Recommendations omitted from publication.] Yuba Consolidated Industries, Inc. and G. F. Miller International Association of Bridge , Structural and Ornamental Iron Workers , AFL-CIO , Local Union No. 321 [Yuba Consoli- dated Industries, Inc.] and G. F. Miller Meehleis Steel Co. and G. F. Miller International Association of Bridge , Structural , and Ornamen- tal Iron Workers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No . 321 [Meehleis Steel Co.] and G . F. Miller. Cases Nos. 26-CA-1044-1, 26-CB- 154-1, 26-CA-1046, and 26-CB-155., March 29, 1962 DECISION AND ORDER On November 20, 1961, Trial Examiner Thomas S. Wilson issued his Intermediate Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the Respondents had not engaged in the unfair labor practices alleged in the consolidated complaint and recommending that the complaint be dismissed in its entirety, as set forth in the Intermediate Report attached hereto. Thereafter, the General Counsel filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report and a supporting brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the Act, the Board has delegated its powers in connection with these cases to a three- member panel [Members Rodgers, Fanning, and Brown]. 136 NLRB No. 60. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation