Revere Copper and Brass, Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsOct 4, 1962138 N.L.R.B. 1377 (N.L.R.B. 1962) Copy Citation REVERE COPPER AND BRASS , INC. 1377 no, I wasn 't going to get anybody in trouble ... I was for the union myself and he said , `Well,' and walked off." Blair denied ever having such a conversation with Busby . He testified that he had attended one union meeting and knew that Dora Shinn "was soliciting union membership ." 12 From this testimony the General Counsel orally argued that Blair requested Busby to get a union card from Shinn so that she could be disciplined under the no-solicitation rule-a major offense for which the penalty for a first violation is a layoff of 9 working days. In the absence of supporting evidence this argument must be rejected . It is founded only on speculativeness. I find that the allegation fails for lack of proof . I recommend its dismissal.13 CONCLUSION OF LAW Upon the basis of the foregoing findings, I find that Respondent has not violated Section 8 ( a) (1) of the Act as alleged in the complaint. RECOMMENDATION Upon-the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law I recom- mend that the complaint be dismissed in its entirety. "The General Counsel raised no issue concerning Blair's attendance at a meeting of the Union. The inference , if any can be drawn, is that the Union solicited Blair's membership 13 The General Counsel adduced some evidence of Respondent calling meetings of the employees and stating in substance that it was only renting the plant and would not tolerate any outside interference . This conduct is not alleged in the complaint as a viola- tion of Section 8(a) (1) of the Act, Of course, not withstanding the failure to plead, this conduct, if proven would be material and relevant in determining whether Respondent was motivated by union animus But, since the ultimate facts pleaded in the complaint fall for lack of proof there is no need to determine motivation. Revere Copper and Brass, Inc. and Reuben H. Monkman and Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machin- ists, Party in Interest . Case No. 13-CA-4613. October 4, 1962 DECISION AND ORDER On June 26, 1962, Trial Examiner George J. Bott issued his Inter- mediate,Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the Re- spondent had engaged in certain unfair labor practices and recom- mending that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action, as set forth in the attached Intermediate Report. Thereafter, the General Counsel and the Respondent filed exceptions to the Inter- mediate Report and briefs in support thereof. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the Act, the Board has delegated its powers in connection with this case to a three-member panel [Members Leedom, Fanning, and Brown]. The Board has reviewed the rulings made by the Trial Examiner at the hearing and finds that no prejudicial error was committed. The rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Inter- mediate Report, the exceptions and briefs, and the entire record in 138 NLRB No. 140. 1378 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD this case,' and hereby adopts the Trial Examiner's findings, conclu- sions, and recommendations, with certain exceptions and modifications as hereinafter set forth. THE REMEDY Having found in agreement with the Trial Examiner that the Re- spondent has engaged in and is engaging in certain unfair labor prac- tices, we shall order that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action necessary to effectuate the policies of the Act. The Trial Examiner found, inter alia, that the Respondent, by its interviews and interrogation of employees, interfered with, restrained, and coerced employees in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act, and also aided, assisted, and contributed support to the Union by coercing employees into joining the Union in violation of Section 8(a) (2) of the Act. In view of the nature of Respondents' unfair labor practices, and in order to dissipate the effects of the assistance and to restore the aforementioned employees as nearly as possible to the position they occupied prior to the unfair labor practices, the Trial Examiner recommended that the 27 employees involved be per- mitted to resign from the Union, if they wish, without regard to the terms of the maintenance-of-membership agreement between Re- spondent and the Union. We shall, in agreement with the Trial Examiner, adopt such recommendation and shall order the Respond- ent to advise the 27 employees that they may resign from the Union and that they will not be subject to the penalties of the contract if they so elect. As the 27 employees were unlawfully coerced into joining the Union, and thus coerced into paying initiation fees, dues, and other union obligations, we are of the opinion, contrary to the Trial Examiner, that it is necessary, in order to expunge the effects of such unlawful conduct, to order the Respondent to reimburse these employees for their initiation fees, dues, and other moneys paid to the Union. How- ever, we do not agree with the General Counsel that the Union, which was not a party respondent in the case, and admittedly not' guilty of any unfair labor practices, should be made jointly liable with Re- spondent in this connection. We agree with the Trial Examiner's recommendation that Monk- man be reinstated to his former or substantially equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges and made whole for any loss of pay suffered by reason of the discrimina- tion against him in the manner set forth in the Intermediate Report. However, in accordance with the policy recently adopted by the 'Ac the iecoid, exceptions. and briefs adequately set forth the ,csues and positions of the parties, the Respondent ' s request for oral argument is denied. REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INC. 1379 Board,' we shall include an allowance for interest on all moneys due him. Such interest shall be computed at the rate of 6 percent per annum on the basis of each separate calendar quarter. We shall also include an allowance for interest on the initiation fees, dues, and other moneys which we are ordering reimbursed to employees who were unlawfully coerced into joining the Union. Such interest shall be computed at the rate of 6 percent per annum on the basis of separate calendar quarters? ORDER Upon the entire record in the case, and pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that Respondent, Revere Copper and Brass, Inc., Clinton, Illinois, and its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall : 1. Cease and desist from : (a) Interrogating its employees about their union desires and feel- ings in a manner constituting interference, restraint, and coercion in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. (b) Discharging or otherwise discriminating against any employee because he fails to join any labor organization or otherwise exercises his rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act, except to the extent that such rights may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as authorized in Section 8(a) (3) of the Act, as modified by the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. (c) Contributing assistance and support to any labor organization in violation of Section 8 (a) (2) of the Act. (d) In any like or related manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed by Section 7 of the Act, except to the extent permitted by Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act, as modified by the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. 2. Take the following affirmative action which will effectuate the policies of the Act : (a) Offer to Reuben Monkman immediate and full reinstatement to his former or substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges, and make him whole for any loss of pay he may have suffered by reason of the Respondent's discrimination, together with interest at the rate of 6 percent per annum, in the manner set forth in the section of the Intermediate 'Isis Phoalnng cf Heating Co, 138 NLRB 716 3Seafaiers International Union of North America, Great Lakes District, AFL-CIO, 138 NLRB 1142 Member Leedom, for reasons stated in the dissents in the afoiementioned cases , would not grant any interest in the instant case. 662353-63-vol 138-88 1380 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Report entitled "The Remedy," as modified by the section of the Board's Decision and Order entitled "The Remedy." (b) Advise the employees listed in the attached notice marked "Appendix A," in writing, that said employees may resign from the Union without being subject to discharge, regardless of the terms of the agreement between the Respondent and the Union. (c) Reimburse the employees listed in "Appendix A," together with interest at the rate of 6 percent per annum, for the initiation fees, dues, and other moneys they were unlawfully required to pay to Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists, in the manner set forth in the section of the Board's Decision and Order entitled "The Remedy." (d) Preserve and, upon request, make available to the Board or its agents, for examination and copying, all payroll records, social security payment records, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all other records necessary and useful to determine the amount of backpay due and the rights of reinstatement under the terms of this Order. (e) Post at its plant at Clinton, Illinois, copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix B." 4 Copies of the notice shall, after be- ing signed by Respondent's representative, be posted by Respondent immediately upon receipt thereof and maintained for a period of 60 consecutive days thereafter in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (f) Notify the Regional Director for the Thirteenth Region, in writing, within 10 days from the date of this Order, what steps it has taken to comply herewith. 4In the event that this Order is enforced by a decree of a United States Court of Appeals, there shall be substituted for the words "Pursuant to a Decision and Order" the words "Pursuant to a Decree of the United States Court of Appeals , Enforcing an Order." Moyer, William L. Shields, Annabelle M. Bowman, Virginia L. Baker, Richard W. Graham, Charlie V. W. Bolin, John A. Foster, Lyle D. Hawkins, Donald L. Richards, Wilbert L. Humphrey, Elmer Burns, James E. Miller, Lucille M. Bolin, Betty C. Baker, Jess F. APPENDIX A Van Valey, James R. Van Note, John R. McAboy, Harry R. Bradshaw, Artis G. Hatton, Henry E. Greenwood, Margie L. Brelsfoard, Reva Laiser, Wilbur S. Wickenhauser, Frederick J. Meeks, Roberta Al. Strohkirch, Nettie E. Clymer, Hubert E. Lange, Ernest J. REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INC. 1381 APPENDIX B NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order of the National Labor Relations Board, and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, we hereby notify our employees that : WE WILL NOT interrogate our employees about their union de- sires and feelings in a manner constituting interference, restraint, and coercion in violation of Section 8(a) (1) of the Act. WE WILL NOT discharge or otherwise discriminate against any employee because he fails to join any labor organization or other- wise exercises his rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act, ex- cept to the extent that such rights may be affected by an agree- ment requiring membership in a labor organization as authorized in Section 8(a) (3) of the Act, as modified by the Labor- Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. WE WILL NOT contribute assistance and support to Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists, or any other labor organization, in violation of Section 8(a) (2) of the Act. WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guar- anteed by Section 7 of the Act, except to the extent permitted by Section 8(a) (3) of the Act, as modified by the Labor- Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959. WE WILL notify the employees listed below, in writing, that they may resign from Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists, by advising the personnel office of the Company, in writing, within 15 days from the posting of this notice, of their intention to do so. Any employee who elects to resign may do so without regard to the terms of the -agreement -between the Union and the Company. Moyer, William L. Shields, Annabelle M. Bowman, Virginia L. Baker, Richard W. Graham, Charlie V. W. Bolin, John A. Foster, Lyle D. Hawkins, Donald L. Richards, Wilbert L. Humphrey, Elmer Burns, James E. Miller, Lucille M. Bolin, Betty C. Baker, Jess F. Van Valey, James R. Van Note, John R. McAboy, Harry R. Bradshaw, Artis G. Hatton, Henry E. Greenwood, Margie L. Brelsfoard, Reva Laiser, Wilbur S. Wickenhauser, Frederick J. Meeks, Roberta M. Strohkirch, Nettie E. Clymer, Hubert E. Lange, Ernest J. 1382 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD WE WILL reimburse the above-named employees for the initia- tion fees, dues , and other moneys they were unlawfully required to pay to Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists. WE WILL offer Reuben Monkman immediate and full reinstate- ment to his former or substantially equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges and make him whole for any loss of pay suffered as a result of the dis- crimination against him. REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INCORPORATED, Employer. Dated---------------- By------------------------------------- (Representative ) ( Title) We will notify the above-named employee, Monkman, if at present serving in the Armed Forces of the United States, of his right to full reinstatement upon application in accordance with the Selective Serv- ice Act after discharge from the Armed Forces. This notice must remain posted for 60 consecutive days from the date of posting, and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. Employees may communicate directly with the Board's Regional Office, 176 West Adams Street, Chicago 3, Illinois, Telephone Num- ber, Central 6-9660, if they have any questions concerning this notice or compliance with its provisions. INTERMEDIATE REPORT AND RECOMMENDED ORDER STATEMENT OF THE CASE Upon a charge of unfair labor practices filed on December 26, 1961, against Revere Copper and Brass, Incorporated, herein called the Respondent or Company, the General Counsel of the National Labor Relations Board issued a complaint and notice of hearing dated February 16, 1961, alleging that Respondent had engaged in unfair labor practices in violation of Section 8(a)(1), (2), and (3) of the National Labor Relations Act, herein called the Act. The answer of Respondent admitted certain allegations of the complaint but denied the commission of any unfair labor practices. Pursuant to notice a hearing was held before Trial Examiner George J. Batt at Clinton, Illinois, on April 10 and 11, 1962. All parties, except Monkman who appeared pro se, were represented by counsel at the hearing. Mr. Christensen, however, entered a special appearance and moved to 'strike Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists as a party on the grounds that no charge had been filed against said organization and that it could not be joined without its consent. I -denied the motion, and Mr. Christensen remained in the hearing room during the hearing as an observer. Subsequent to the hearing, Re- spondent and General Counsel filed briefs which I have considered. Upon the entire record in the case and from my observation of the witnesses I make the following: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT Respondent is, and at all times material herein has been , a Maryland corporation operating factories in several States, including a factory at Clinton , Illinois, the facility involved in this proceeding, where it is engaged in.the manufacture of copper tubing, fabricating utensils, and other products . In the course and conduct of its REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INC. 1383 business operations , Respondent annually ships its products from one State to another at an annual rate in excess of $1,000,000. Respondent concedes , and I find, that it is and has been at all dimes material hereto an employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. If. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED Dewitt Lodge No. 852, International Association of Machinists , herein sometimes called the Union, is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act III. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. The facts 1. Interrogation of employees Respondent and the Union have been parties to collective -bargaining contracts for a number of years and , in November 1961, began negotiations for a new agree- ment to ieplace their existing contract which was to expire on November 18, 4961. On December 11, 1961, the parties executed a new contract resulting from the negotiations . The new contract contained a change in the so-called union security provisions of the old agreement which is of significance to this case . Article 11, paragraph ( 3) of the old agreement provided: (a) Any employee hired on or after the effective date of this Agreement must, as a condition of employment , loin the UNION not later than on the first day, following the completion of his probationary period, and remain a member for the duration of the Agreement , provided however , the employee may resign from the UNION during the two week period immediately preceding the expira- tion date of this Agreement. (b) Any employee in permanent status who is not a member of the UNION on the date of this Agreement shall not be required to become a member of the UNION as a condition of continued employment. (c) Any employee who is now a member of the UNION or who thereafter loins the UNION, must maintain his membership in the UNION for the dura- tion of this Agreement . provided however , that during . the two week period immediately preceding the expiration date of this Agreement he shall have the right to resign from the UNION In the new agreement , the provisos in subparagraphs ( a) and (c) of paragraphs (3), article II , have been deleted. Thus , employees no longer may resign from the Union during a period prior to the expiration of the agreement . In other words, all employees must maintain membership in the Union and there is no "escape period " The facts in this case are directly related to the negotiations of the parties and the change in the union security provisions Negotiations for the new agreement began on November 3, 1961 . The Company was represented by Harold Schindler , works manager ; James Miller , superintendent of the manufacturing plant, Gerald Bush, superintendent of the tube mill; Edward Keenon, assistant works manager , and Horace Roberts, industrial relations officer. The Union was represented by Lloyd Butcher , grand lodge representative of the International Association of Machinists ; Raymond Rodgers, financial secretary of Lodge 852, Robert Karr , chairman of the negotiating committee ; and various other employee members of the committee. From the very first bargaining session , the Union insisted that the Company grant a full union shop permitted by the Act , namely, that all employees be required to join the Union in the period provided in the statute . The Company , as it had for years , resisted this demand as being against its policy, and the Union threatened to strike over the issue It appears that as of the time of the negotiations there were only 28 permanent employees who were not members of the Union I Sometime during the negotiations the Union gave Respondent the names of these persons who were not members. Roberts testified that during the course of the negotiations the Union suggested that if they could "get a hundred percent membership then they wouldn't need a full union security provision in the new contract " He added that the Company made 1 The record is unclear but it would appear that there were about 400 employees in the bargaining unit when negotiations began since 'Norman MacLeod, Industrial relations manager, estimated that 7 or 8 percent were nonunion 1384 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD no commitment to this suggestion. The Company was concerned, however, about the Union's threat to strike and discussed means of averting it. Roberts testified that, Well, we thought that if we were to talk to all of the people who were not members of the union and explain the situation to them as with regards to the threat of a union strike, and that we had no objections to their joining the union. We thought that they probably would become members. Gerald Bush, superintendent of the tube plant, also testified about Respondent's decision to talk with the nonunion employees. He stated that after the Union threatened to strike unless they "had a hundred percent membership in the union," management officials, in a caucus, decided to talk to the employees who were not members of the Union. He testified that, "it was decided we should talk to the men and make them fully aware if there was a-strike, what the circumstances would be, and to give them the opportunity of averting the strike if possible " He could not recall anything else that was said in the caucus about the matter. In accord with the decision to discuss the problem with employees, certain management representatives interviewed nonmember employees and discussed the Union's demand for a full union shop with them. In all, about 18 employees were interviewed, usually alone in the office of a company official, having been summoned to the office for that purpose. Typical interviews were as follows: Richard Baker had been employed by Respondent as a toolmaker for about 10 years and was not a member of the Union. On the 4th of December he was notified to report to Roberts' office. Roberts told him that the Union was threatening to strike unless they got "a hundred percent membership in the union. . . Baker told Roberts that he felt he was being pressured and he "didn't lake to be pushed into the union from either side." Roberts told him it was not a "matter of pressure" but that the employee had a "choice to volunteer . . . Baker said he did not want to join but he would to avert a strike. As Baker was leaving Roberts' office, Roberts told him to contact Ray Rodgers, official of the Union, but Baker was unable to find hum. Two days later, while Baker was ill at home, Rodgers, Grand Lodge Representa- tive Butcher, and the shop committee appeared at Baker's home and Rodgers asked him if he was ready to join the Union. Rodgers told Baker that Roberts and Schindler told them to call since Baker had agreed to join the Union. Baker signed a card for Rodgers.2 Employee Lyle Foster was also interviewed by Roberts in his office, but prior to that his foreman had also talked to him about the same matter. He testified that Foreman Jackson told him that "he had just found out" that Foster was not a union member. Jackson went on to state that the Union was trying to get "one hundred percent union membership" and had threatened to strike. Later Foster was called into Roberts' office and told that the Union was threatening to strike for a union shop. Roberts also told Foster that he would like to see the employees belong to the Union before it was necessary to tell them "that they will either have to get in or get out " Foster was asked if he would consider getting in the Union but he was reluctant. A few days dater, after being approached by Rodgers to sign, he sought out Roberts and told him he was going to join- the Union but was not doing it voluntarily 3 Roberts told the employee to "check with Ray Rodgers" which the employee did. Foster gave Rodgers a check for his initiation fee that day. Employees Reva Brelsford and Elmer Humphrey were also talked to by Roberts in his office. Roberts told Brelsford that the Union had threatened to strike for a union shop and asked her if she would join the Union. She said she would rather join than go on strike and later joined the Union The conversation with Humphrey, on December 4, was substantially the same, and Humphrey joined the Union a few days later. Works Manager Schindler also discussed the Union's demand with employees prior to the execution of the new agreement. James Van Valey saw Schindler in the office on or about December 4, and Schindler told him ,that the Union had about 90 percent of the employees enrolled as members and that he knew the Union was going out on strike if all the employees did not join. Schindler also stated that he could not tell the employee what "clothes to wear or anything like that." Van Valey 2About a week before his conversation with Roberts, Baker had been asked by Keenan, assistant works manager, if he would join the Union to avert a strike Baker told Keenan that he was loyal to the Company but could not give an answer at that time. 'Roberts told Foster that be could not understand why the employee felt he was being forced into the Union The employee then told Roberts that he had heard that Works Manager Schindler and Grand Lodge Representative Butcher had an arrangement for dis- missing employees who did not join the Union. Roberts made no comment REVERE COPPER AND BRASS , INC. 1385 told him that "rather than cause trouble" he would join the Union and did so shortly thereafter. Employee John Van Note was sent to the personnel office by James Miller, plant superintendent, where he saw Schindler privately. Schindler discussed the current negotiations with the Union, told the employee that the Union was threatening to strike for a full union shop, and that if a strike occurred and the Company con- ceded, the employees would have to join the Union when they returned to work. Schindler also mentioned the number of employees who did not belong to the Union and gave Van Note the names of some of the union stewards. Van Note joined the Union a short while later. Charles Graham was sent to the personnel office by his foreman and met with Schindler who told him that the Union intended to strike if "they didn't get a hundred percent membership." The employee expressed an opinion that the Union would not strike for a union shop but was told by Schindler that he believed the Union was in earnest and that if the Company agreed with the Union all employees would have to join. Graham joined the Union before the contract was executed. Employees Annabelle Shields, Lucille Miller, and Virginia Bowman were all inter- viewed separately by Schindler, having been sent to him for that purpose. Schindler's comments were substantially the same in each case. He told Shields that the Union would strike for a union shop and described the conditions which would result if that occurred. He mentioned, for example, the costs which a strike would involve and the number of employees who would be out of work. Shields told Schindler that she would think the matter over and subsequently she also joined the Union. Schindler told Bowman that the Union was strong enough to force a strike and that the Company would have to capitulate, and informed Miller that he was trying to prevent a strike and thought it best if she joined the Union to avert a strike over the union-shop issue. Schindler also discussed the Union's strike threat with employees Wilbur Laiser, James Burns, and Harry McAboy at or about the time he discussed it with other employees, and under essentially the same conditions. Burns told Schindler that before he would "see any plant go out on a strike" he would join. He did turn in an application , which he had in his possession at the time, to the Union. McAboy joined the Union the night before he was sent to Schindler's office, and his conver- sation with Schindler was cut short when Schindler was advised of that fact. Gerald Bush, superintendent of the tube mill, talked to the two nonunion em- ployees who worked in his department, namely, Ernest Lange and Hubert Clymer. Lange testified that he was called into Bush's office on December 4 and had a short conversation with Bush. Bush told him he had a list of persons who did not belong to the Union and he had been asked to talk to the two who worked for him about joining the Union. He added that the other nonunion employee had joined a week before and Bush now wanted to talk with Lange about the subject. He asked Lange if he had ever considered joining the Union and Lange replied that he had but had decided against it. Bush asked Lange to think about the matter further and reconsider, and Lange told him he would. The next day Lange was again called to Bush's office where Bush asked him whether he had decided to join. When Lange told Bush he had not, Bush told him that some of this union members felt that they were paying for the contract benefits secured for the nonunion em- ployees Lange disagreed with this statement, and was told that only six or eight employees did not belong to the Union and unless they joined the Union would strike. Bush asked Lange to give the matter more thought and give him an answer later in the week. Lange agreed and went back to work. Later that week Bush came to Lange's home but the employee was absent. Bush telephoned a neighbor and told him to tell Lange to see Bush before going to work which Lange did. At that time Bush told Lange that he was now the only employee who had not joined the Union and that the Union "would strike over one member as well as over six or eight." Lange told Bush he would join the Union to prevent a strike. Bush then picked up the telephone in his office and called Ray Rodgers, officer of the Local Union Rodgers appeared in the office, signed the employee for membership, and was given the employee's personal check. Employee Clymer was told by Bush when called to his office that the Union was demanding "a hundred percent membership" and there was a possibility of a strike if they did not get it. Bush told Clymer that he had been a union member and that "they did a lot for the working man." He said it was not fair that a few employees who did not belong should be "getting a free ride" paid for by the rest of the employees. Clymer told Bush that, to avoid a strike, he would sign with the Union Bush told him that he would appreciate it if the employee got a card and signed "right away." Clymer joined the Union. 1386 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Three other nonunion employees had conversations with management representa- tives similar in tenor to those described above. William Moyer was asked by Edward Keenon, assistant works manager, in early December, if he had joined the Union. When the employee replied that he had not Keenon asked him if he intended to. Moyer heard rumors of a strike and joined the Union, he said, to prevent "hardship." Betty Bolin was asked by her foreman, in the presence of other employees, if she were a member of the Union. When she said she was not, the foreman asked her had she ever thought about it and would she join if asked. Bolin said she would. Later that day a union shop committeewoman solicited her, stating that she under- stood Bolin had been asked to join the Union. Bolin joined. Jess Baker was asked to come into Superintendent Miller's office on December 4 and there Miller told him that it was no secret that the Union had threatened to strike if it did not secure a union shop. Baker had applied for membership the night before, however. With certain exceptions the Respondent does not deny the content of the inter- views with employees as set forth above. Respondent does assert, however, that in addition to informing employees of the status of negotiations and the Union's threat to stirke, Respondent's purpose in talking to employees was to make it clear that, despite any remarks foremen had made to employees about not joining the Union, Respondent had no objection to employees joining and that their jobs would not be jeopardized if they did. Roberts and Schindler testified essentially to that effect. Neither Roberts nor Schindler mentioned any specific statement to any employee of that nature, however, and no employee testified about any such conversation. No foreman was called, and the source of management's information about foreman antipathy to employees joining, which was asserted to have come from the Union, was never more precisely identified From a review of the testimony of the sub- stantial number of employees who testified, as well as that of Respondent's witnesses, I am satisfied, and I find, that the emphasis and stress in all the interviews was on the threat of a strike and that any reference lo foremen activity, if made at all, was minor and incidental Respondent also states that no promises or threats were made to any employees during the interviews. I find that no company representative told any employee that Respondent would treat him any better or worse depending on his decision about joining the Union. Respondent also takes the position that the employees were told in the interviews that they were free to decide for themselves what they wished to do about joining the Union. I find that such a statement was made in some cases but not in all. Roberts, for example, did not deny Baker's and Foster's testimony that he urged them to join the Union despite their reluctance. Moreover, any statement made by Respondent's representatives to the effect that the choice was the employee's was made in a context of other remarks which were clearly designed to persuade the employees to join the Union. Finally, with respect to the interviews, Respondent denies that certain statements attributed to it by the employees were actually made. Gerald Bush, superintendent of the tube mill, denied that he told employee Lange that other employees thought he was a "free loader" in not joining the Union. The employee had not used that exact description of the purport of Bush's comments to him about not joining the Union, but employee Clymer, also interviewed by Bush, had mentioned a "free ride." Bush did not deny Clymer's testimony. I find that Bush went into greater detail in his conversations with employees than he was able to remember on the witness stand. Lange's recall was 'better than Bush's, in my view, and I was more impressed with his demeanor. I find that Bush did suggest to the employees that their nonmembership was unpopular with other employees because they paid nothing for contract benefits. Bush also denied, as testified to by Lange and set forth in more detail above, that after talking with Lange for the second time in his office, and after Lange had agreed to join, Bush then called Ray Rodgers, officer of the Local Union, to see Lange. I do not credit Bush's denial. Lange told the more coherent and straight- forward story Moreover, Bush did not deny that he told Clymer that he would appreciate it if he would go out in the plant and "get signed up right away " This is consistent with his effort to make it easy for Lange to join when he was in the mood by arranging for a union official to sign him up Works Manager Schindler also denied that he made certain statements in the interviews He denied that he told Bowman that the Union was strong enough to force the Company to capitulate to its demand for a union shop, or that he gave Van Note the names of certain union stewards after talking to him about joining REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INC. 1387 the Union. I credit the employees as against Schindler in both cases. The employees who testified in this phase of the case (the interviews) exhibited no malice or resent- ment toward Respondent .4 In addition, their recall was good and they were careful not to exaggerate. Questions, the answers to which could be unfavorable to General Counsel's case, were answered candidly and without hesitation. Schindler, on the other hand, was unable to recall very much about the details of the interviews when first interrogated by General Counsel as an adverse witness, although his memory seemed to improve when he took the stand in Respondent's behalf. In addition, he seemed somewhat embarrassed about the whole interview situation and unwilling to remember too much of the details. I find, therefore, that Respondent's representatives interviewed employees as de- scribed in the testimony of the employee witnesses and set forth in greater detail heretofore.5 2. The discharge of Reuben Monkman Monkman, 1 of the 28 nonunion employees at the time of negotiations for a new contract, had been employed by Respondent for about 71/2 years when discharged by Respondent on December 1, 1961. The facts surrounding his discharge are as follows: Monkman, although once a steward of the Union, had not been a member of that organization for years. On or about November 22, 1961, Karr, the Union's shop chairman, approached him at his job and asked him to join the Union 'Monkman asked Karr what gave him such an idea, and a discussion ensued about how many employees were not members of the Union. Karr told Monkman that the reason Monkman did not belong to the Union was that the Union had never secured a union-shop agreement He added that the Company had agreed to "get the union a hundred percent membership if they would sign without a union shop. . . . About 2 days after the conversation with Karr, Keenon, assistant works manager, talked with Monkman at his work and reminded Monkman that the employee had had a conversation with Schindler about the Union 3 years before. Keenon asked Monkman to repeat what he had told Schindler at that time. Monkman told him that Schindler had talked to him about joining the Union and asked him to voice what objections Monkman had to the Union, which Monkman did. After Monk- man repeated to Keenon what he had earlier told Schindler, Keenon asked the employee for his present position and was told that Monkman would not join the Union. Keenon then asked him if he meant he would not join the Union even if there were a strike, and Monkman replied that such was correct. Monkman also told Keenon that the Company did not want to commit itself to a union shop but ap- parently did not object to asking Monkman to join the Union. Monkman, with Keenon's permission, told Keenon that the Company held the key to the situation for it could give the Union a union shop or resist, and if it granted it, Monkman would have to join. Not long after his talk with Keenon, Monkman was again approached by Karr. Karr asked him if he were now ready to join and Monkman told him "That when management approached (him) to join the union, that (he) didn't want any part of it." Monkman refused to join the Union and Karr told him that be would have to see Works Manager Schindler. Monkman told Karr that he was not going to join the Union and he was not going to see Mr. Schindler about it either Karr continued to insist that Monkman would have to see Schindler and, in Monkman's words, "I insisted that I wasn't." On November 28, 1961, Keenon came to where Monkman was working and told him that Schindler wanted to talk with him. Monkman told Keenon that the Union had asked him to join, and Keenon had done the same , and that, therefore, he was not going to see Schindler and give him an explanation of his position. He told Keenon that he was "not going in to discuss union or discuss union business " 6 Keenon insisted that Monkman come with him and issued an order to that effect which Monkman refused, urging Keenon to tell Schindler what the employee had 4 The employees were all employed by Respondent at the time of the hearing. 5 Eight nonmember employees who joined the Union during negotiations were not inter- viewed by Respondent. I rejected General Counsel's offer to prove five of them joined the Union because they heard that the Union was demanding a union shop and threatening to strike for it. Of the other three, one joined because a steward told him he was about the last one not in the Union, another because she asked her foreman husband and he told her she "might just as well . . join the union " The last employee joined because she heard the Union "wanted everybody in the union " 6 Employee Gilbert Wood heard Monkman tell Keenon that he would not go to the office to discuss "union business " 1388 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD 2 said, and to advise him that Monkman would file a charge of unfair labor practices against Respondent if he were forced to discuss the Union against his will . Keenon left. A short time later, James Weikle, assistant foreman, was sent to Monkman with a message that Keenon said that Schindler wanted to talk to him. Monkman did not comply with the request . In a short while , Weikle came back, handed Monkman a suspension slip, and told him to punch out -immediately . Monkman asked Weikle if he had told Schindler about Monkman 's intention to go to the National Labor Relations Board and Weikle replied that he had. On December 1, 1961, Monkman was notified by registered mail that he was terminated for acts of insubordination. The basic facts in Monkman's case are not in dispute although the extent of management 's conversations with him about the Union , and its motive in calling him to Schindler 's office, are . Keenon, assistant works manager , admitted that he spoke with Monkman on November 24, 1961, but his account of the conversation is radically different from Monkman 's. Keenon testified that he merely said "hello" to Monkman as he approached him and Monkman asked him how the union negotia- tions were progressing . He added that he said nothing else but could not recall if Monkman did. I do not credit Keenon 's testimony based on his demeanor and a comparison of his account with ,Monkman 's. Keenon was vague and embarrassed on the stand , but Monkman was direct , detailed , and precise . In Monkman's testimony he described relating in detail to Keenon a conversation about joining the Union he had had with Schindler 3 years before . This alleged conversation , which Monkman could hardly have made up, was never referred to by Keenon or Schindler in their testimony . I find that , on November 24, Keenon interrogated Monkman regarding his intentions withrespect to the Union and that the conversation took place as testi- fied to by Monkman The subject of Respondent 's motivation in summoning Monkman to the office on November 28, and his reasons or justification for refusing , will be discussed, for convenience and clarity, in a later section of this report. B. Contentions of the parties; additional findings and concluding findings 1. As to the 18(a)(1) and ( 2) violations in interviewing and interrogating employees General Counsel 's position , in brief, is that Respondent interrogated its employees in order to persuade and coerce them to become members of the Union, and that such conduct interfered with , restrained , and coerced employees in the exercise of their rights under Section 7 of the Act. By the same token, he argues, Respondent's actions in securing members for the Union was aid and assistance to .the Union in violation of Section 8(a)(2) of the Act Respondent, in essence , defends under Sec- tion 8(c) of the Act, contending that in its conversations with employees it merely expressed its opinion and views of the status of negotiations , predicted what the Union might do, or what Respondent might be forced to do, all without promises of benefit or threats of reprisal. Interrogation of employees about their union membership or views is not unlawful per se. The test is whether, under all the circumstances , interrogation reasonably tends to interfere with or restrain employees in the exercise of their rights under the Act. N L.R.B v. Syracuse Color Press, Inc., 209 F. 2d 596 (C.A. 2); Blue Flash Express, Inc., 109 NLRB 591. I find, and conclude, that in the circumstances of this case Respondent , in interviewing its employees as ,it did, interfered with, restrained, and coerced its employees in their rights to refrain from becoming members of the Union In the first place, Respondent's purpose in talking with its employees is significant. Respondent was not merely gathering factual information upon which it could base a judgment for future action, such as recognition or nonrecognition of a union dependent on its numerical strength , but was attempting to change the employees' views toward the Union, and in that sense undertook a job of proselytism which is traditionally and properly n union 's and not an employer's. Moreover , Respondent was motivated in its actions , at least in part, by a desire to aid the Union in securing members which it normally was unable to obtain . Works Manager Schindler testified , it is true, that Respondent made no commitment to the Union to obtain members for it, and I have no reason to believe that such a formal commitment was made However, a realistic appraisal of the record indicates that the only logical explanation of the sequence of events is that a tacit understanding occurred during bargaining that Respondent would discuss with employees the desirability of their joining the Union . As set forth above, Roberts admitted that during REVEikE COPPER AND BRASS, INC. 1389 negotiations the Union stated that if they could "get a hundred percent membership they wouldn't need a full union security provision in the new contract." Thereafter, management caucused and decided to discuss the subject with employees, and tell them, as Bush testified, "what the circumstances could be if there were a possibility of a strike and which we did not want. And if they would consider joining the union or reconsidering to avert a strike." When employees were inter- viewed some of them were referred to union officers for applications, and union representatives knew that the interviews had taken place, for in certain cases, the interviews were mentioned when the employee was solicited by the Union. All this, in my judgment, amounted to a silent understanding between the Company and the Union as to how nonunion employees would be made amenable to union membership. Another consideration which I think important, regardless of the content of the interviews, was the fact they were held in the office of top management-the locus of authority-and, in some cases, were repetitive. The employees were summoned to either Schindler's, Roberts', or Bush's offices from their jobs. Bush interviewed Lange twice in 24 hours, and employee Foster was first interrogated by his foreman, and then called to Roberts' office for the same purpose. Roberts also talked with employee Baker after Keenan, assistant works manager, had interrogated the employee without getting a positive commitment from hun. Monkman, who refused to appear in Schindler's office and was discharged, was first questioned by Kennon with negative results. The repeated pressure and scene of the interviews indicates a company interest in the employees' views which was more than casual and had overtones of coercion. Statements made in the interview also contributed to the coercive atmosphere. In the first place, the employees were told that the Union was going to strike and that only a few employees remained out of the Union. One employee was told that he was the last to join. This kind of persuasion could only have the effect of socially isolating employees from their fellow employees and giving them the impression that they would be at fault if the Union struck. In addition, two employees were told that other employees considered them "free loaders" who, therefore, were selfishly benefiting from the labors of others. By such technique Respondent, I believe, unfairly saddled ordinary employees with the burden of-in Superintendent Bush's words-"averting the strike" by relinquishing their rights under the Act. Finally, aside from any commitment to the Union, tacit or otherwise, Respondent's interrogation of employees put the employees in the position of being subject to an unfair mental whipsawing action by the Union and Respondent. Whether Respondent told the Union that it would talk, or was talking, to employees or not, it is evident that the Union knew that such was going on and exploited it. For example, after employee Foster was interviewed by Roberts and had refused to join the Union, Rodgers, a union representative, asked him if he wanted to join the Union or talk to Roberts again. When employee Richard Baker, who had previ- ously been interrogated by Roberts, was at home ill, Rodgers, Grand Lodge Repre- sentative Butcher, and the entire shop committee visited him and told him that Roberts had told them that Baker had agreed to join the Union. Employee Bolin, who had told her foreman that she would join the Union when he asked her if she would in the presence of her fellow employees, was then approached by a union representa- tive who stated that she understood that Bolin had been asked. The employee joined. In a number of cases, as set forth in more detail earlier, employees were referred to the Union for enrollment after their interviews.? Respondent must be held to have known that its ,actions would leave the impression that it and the Union had a common goal. This kind of pressure, whether designed or not, is an additional element of impropriety in the interviews. I conclude that under all the circumstances, Respondent, in its interviews and interrogation of employees, exceeded the permissible boundaries of free speech and by its actions interfered with, restrained, and coerced employees in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. I also find that the facts set forth above establish that Respondent aided, assisted, and contributed support to the Union. Respondent's object in talking to the employees was to have them become members of the Union, for as Roberts said,,if the "situation" was explained to the employees "they probably would become members." The Com- pany achieved its object, for although 28 old employees were not members of the Union when the negotiations began, despite the fact that the Union had been the 7 See Hearever Co , Inc, 122 NLRB 208, 216, where the circulation of a petition for an independent union was held illegal despite assurances that those who did not wiah to sign would not be discriminated against 1390 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR IiEljQTIONS BOARD bargaining representative for many years, all, with .-hs exception of Monkman who had been discharged, were members when the new contract was executed. The Union, with company assistance, had now obtained what the witnesses frequently referred to as "a hundred percent membership" and under the maintenance-of- membership provision of the contract no longer needed a full union-shop agreement. It is true, of course, that Respondent and the Umon could have legally executed an agreement which would have required all employees to join the Union, and this, as is true of many legitimate employer-union relations, aids, assists, and gives status to the Union. Congress provided, however, that employees are free to join or not to join unions and may not be discriminated against or interfered with in their choice, except under the proviso of Section 8(a)(3) of the Act By assisting the Union in securing members in the manner described, Respondent illegally aided the Union in acquiring a status it was not entitled to in the absence of proper union-shop agreement. By such conduct Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (2) of the Act. 2. As to the 8(a)(3) and (1) violation in the discharge of Reuben Monkman Works Manager Schindler testified that at a negotiating meeting on November 28, 1961, "a remark was made by the committee . . . that they had heard that Monk- man had made the misstatement that the union and management were making deals." He added that he asked the committee what "kind of deals" they were talking about, but the committee did not know. He immediately sent Keenon out to get Monkman, he said, because he wanted to find out what Monkman was talking about. There is no evidence in the record that iMonkman had made any statements about management's and the Union's relations, either true or false. When Keenon came back without Monkman, a foreman was sent for him, and Monkman again refused to come to the office. A consultation was held, according to Schindler, and it was decided to fire the employee for insubordination. Respondent's position is that it made no agreement with the Union to get rid of Monkman, that it had no hostility toward him, but that such insubordination could not be tolerated as a matter of industrial discipline. I do not believe that Schindler sent for Monkman to inquire about unsupported committee comments about his conduct. No specific committee member was identi- fied as the source of the complaint, and Schindler's interruption of a bargaining session on such a flimsy ground is suspicious. The more likely explanation is that Monkman's name was mentioned by the Union in the session as another nonunion employee, for the record shows that Monkman, as well as other employees, were named in the sessions as being nonunion. Monkman was a former union steward and it is highly unlikely that his dissidence would go unnoticed by either the Union which was seeking membership of all employees, or Respondent, which was aiding the Union in securing that membership. In any event, if it be assumed that a complaint was made about Monkman and that the Company quickly jumped to make an investigation, ,it did so, in my view, because it knew that Monkman was resisting efforts by Respondent to persuade him to join the Union. Keenon, I have found, talked with Monkman only a few days before about his intentions regarding the Union and Monkman told him that he would not join the Union even if it meant a strike. When Keenon, on November 28, told Monkman that Schindler wanted to see him. the employee told Keenon that the Union, as well as Keenon, had already asked him to join, and he was not going to see Schindler about the same matter Keenon did not indicate to Monkman in any way that Monkman misunderstood the nature of his mission,'or tell him that Schindler wanted to talk about something else Indeed, Keenon was present at the negotiating session where the Union is supposed to have asserted that Monkman was accusing the parties of making deals, and testi- fied, in support of Schindler, that Schindler then sent for Monkman It is strange, in view of his asserted knowledge of the reason for his errand, that he did not attempt to disabuse Monkman of any erroneous ideas he had that Respondent was making another effort to change his mind about the Union Respondent makes the point that Monkman did not know what Schindler wanted to see him about and it is a fact that Monkman stated on the stand that he did not know. I carefully observed Monkman when he was being examined on the point and I am convinced that he was being careful and precise in using the word "know" in the sense of positive knowledge. As a matter of fact, he also testified that he had "reason to believe" that Schindler wanted to talk with him about the Union. I find, not only that Respondent did intend to discuss union membership with Monk- man as it had the other employees, but also that Monkman had reasonable cause to REVERE COPPER AND BRASS, INC . 1391 believe such based upon his prior conversations with the Company and the Union on the same subject. Respondent , in support of its position that Monkman 's refusal to come to Schindler's office was insubordination for which he was properly discharged , relies on the decision in N.L.R.B. v. Ross Gear & Tool Company , 158 F. 2d 607 (C.A. 7). I think the facts there, however , were basically different . In that case , the employee , who, there was some reason to believe, was responsible for certain plant dissension , was sent for by management for the sole purpose of attempting to resolve the friction . The em- ployee knew the reason for the request and refused to report even after being warned that her refusal would result in discharge . The court, in finding .the discharge to be for cause , pointed out that there was no basis for an inference that the em- ployee's discharge was because she was a union officer , or to infringe on her rights, or done for the purpose of restraint , intimidation , or coercion , or resulted in such. Here Monkman was exercising a statutory right to refrain from union activity and to have a representative of his own choosing , not the Respondent's. Respondent's con- duct in interviewing the other employees violated the statute and Respondent would have treated Monkman alike , or so he reasonably believed. His refusal upset the Company's plans to persuade employees to join the Union to avoid a strike, and as Superintendent Bush told employee Lange, "the union would strike over one mem- ber." Monkman's resistance was a threat to unanimity which Respondent could not ignore. I find that Monkman was fired because he exercised his rights to refrain from joining the Union, as well as his right not to be persuaded to that end by the Com- pany. To label his offense a discharge for insubordination would, in my opinion, elevate management 's right to direct its employees over the statutory rights of the employee without sufficient foundation in industrial necessities . I conclude that in discharging Monkman Respondent violated Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act. I also find that by discharging Monkman for the reasons set forth Respondent af- forded the Union additional assistance and thereby violated Section 8 ( a)(2) of the Act. IV. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of Respondent set forth in section III, above, which have been found to constitute unfair labor practices, occurring in connection with the operations of Respondent described in section I, above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States and tend to lead to labor disputes, burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of commerce. V. THE REMEDY It having been found that the Respondent engaged in unfair labor practices in violation of Section 8(a)(1), (2), and (3) of the Act, it will be recommended that the Respondent cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. Having found that Reuben Monkman was discriminatorily discharged in viola- tion of Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act, I will recommend, that„Respondent be ordered to offer him immediate and full reinstatement to his former or sub- stantially equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority and other rights and privileges and make him whole for any loss of earnings he may have suffered because of the discrimination against him by payment to him of a sum of money equal to the amount he normally would have earned as wages from the date of his discharge to the date of Respondent's offer of reinstatement, less his net earnings during said period, with backpay to be computed on a quarterly basis in the manner established by the Board in F. W. Woolworth Co., 90 NLRB 289, 291-294. It will also be recommended that the Respondent preserve and make available to the Board, upon request, payroll and other records to facilitate the computation of backpay. I have found that Respondent unlawfully assisted the Union in obtaining members by its interviews with employees and the discharge of Monkman, and I will recom- mend a remedy which will not only require Respondent to cease and desist from the conduct engaged in but which will dissipate the effects of the assistance, and restore, as nearly as possible, employees to the positions they occupied prior to the unfair labor practices. The remedy here must be tailored to the situation and is not easily fashioned. In the first place, the Union and Respondent claim that no effective remedy is legally or practically possible, even assuming that unfair labor practices were committed, for the Union is not charged with an unfair labor prac- tice, and its contractual relations with Respondent may not be effectively impaired 1392 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD by an order issued against Respondent alone . At the hearing I denied the Union's motion to strike it as a party for its position is foreclosed by the decision of the Supreme Court in Consolidated Edison Co. of New York, Inc. v. N.L.R.B., 305 U.S. 197, 231, where it was held that an independent union whose contractual rights are involved in a proceeding against an employer must , as a matter of due process, be made a party. On the other hand, General Counsel states that the Union has committed no unfair labor practices; that the assistance given the Union was "not the sort which undermines the ability of a union properly to represent the interests of employees in arms-length dealing with an employer," and that, therefore, there is no necessity for the usual 8(a)(2) remedy which would require the Respondent to withdraw recognition from the Union and cease giving effect to the new contract. General Counsel also takes the position that he "concedes, without hesitation, the Union's legal right to conduct an active , strenuous campaign to sign up all the employees . . . in the manner they used, including asking for Respondent's help." I will not, there- fore, recommend withdrawal of recognition on this record. The rights of employees have been interfered with, however, and the status quo should be restored , giving at the same time due consideration to the practical con- siderations involved. General Counsel suggests that the rights of 27 nonunion employees were affected as a class, for they have now acquired a status which they did not have under the old agreement, namely, a requirement that they be union members. He requests that all 27 be given an opportunity to resign from the Union, without being subject to the penalties of the new agreement, and resume the status they had prior to the unfair labor practices. Although I have found that only 18 of the 28 nonunion employees existing at the time of the commencement of negotiations and the unfair labor practices were interrogated, all of the 27 joined in an atmosphere of coercion engendered by improper interrogation and the discharge of Monkman. To afford a remedy for only 18 would, I think, be unrealistic and unfair. I will recommend that all 27 be given an opportunity to resign from the Union, if they wish, on appropriate notice to Respondent without regard to the terms of the labor agreement. I will not go so far, however, as to recommend that Respondent reimburse the employees for- dues and initiation fees, for I think their choice should be unencumbered by financial considerations. In addition, the amount of money involved is small , and it has been paid to the Union by Respond- ent, and since there is no charge against the Union , it may not be required to disgorge it. Despite the fact that an employee was illegally discharged, I will, in view of the fact that the discharge and other unfair labor practices were an integral part of a unique fact situation, recommend only that Respondent cease and desist from in- fringing in-any like or related manner upon the rights of employees guaranteed by Section 7 of the Act. Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and upon the entire record in the case, the Trial Examiner makes the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. The Respondent is engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. 2. The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. 3. By interrogating its employees as found herein, Respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. 4. By discriminating in regard to the hire and tenure of employment of Reuben Monkman , Respondent engaged in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (3) and (1) of the Act. 5. By interrogating its employees, as found herein, and by discriminating against Reuben Monkman, Respondent rendered unlawful assistance and support to a labor organization , and engaged in an unfair labor practice within the meaning of Section 8(a)(2) of the Act. 6. The aforesaid unfair labor practices are unfair labor practices affecting com- merce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. [Recommendations omitted from publication.] Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation