National Plywood, Inc.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJul 25, 1968172 N.L.R.B. 1285 (N.L.R.B. 1968) Copy Citation NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. National Plywood, Inc. and International Wood- workers of America, Local Union No. 3-436, AFL-CIO. Case 36-CA-1562 July 25, 1968 DECISION AND ORDER By MEMBERS BROWN , JENKINS, AND ZAGORIA On June 13, 1967, Trial Examiner Maurice M. Miller issued his Decision in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the Respondent had not engaged in the unfair labor practices alleged in the complaint and recommending that the complaint be dismissed in its entirety, as set forth in the attached Trial Examiner's Decision Thereafter, the General Counsel and the Charging Party filed exceptions to the Trial Examiner's Decision together with sup- porting briefs. The Respondent filed an answering brief to the exceptions of the Charging Party. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relaations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board has delegated its powers in connection with this case to a three- member panel. The Board has reviewed the rulings of the Trial Examiner made at the hearing and finds that no prejudicial error was committed. The rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Trial Examiner's Decision, the exceptions and briefs, and the entire record in the case, and hereby adopts the findings, conclusions, and recommenda- tions of the Trial Examiner to the extent consistent herewith. The complaint alleged that the Respondent vio- lated Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act by dis- charging employee Robert Reed because of his membership in, and activities on behalf of, the Union. The Trial Examiner found that Reed was discharged for insubordination and recommended dismissal of this allegation of the complaint. The General Counsel and the Charging Party have ex- cepted to this finding and recommendation. We find merit in these exceptions. On July 24, 1966, while a union organizational campaign was in progress, Reed signed an authorization card and proceeded to solicit his fel- low employees to do likewise. Two days later, on July 26, Reed on several occasions asked West to sign an authorization card. On the last occasion, According to West 's testimony, and contrary to the testimony of Lan- genberg , West 's complaint to Langenbcrg was restricted to Reed's action in "pushing" him and no mention whatsoever was made of any profane epithet, which Reed , according to Langenberg , was alleged to have uttered to West West defined " pushing " as agitating for a union 1285 which Reed places at midmorning , West demurred, pointing out that he had been associated with a union at his prior place of employment and be- lieved he had been discharged because of such as- sociation . According to Reed, however, the conver- sation ended with West agreeing to consider the matter further. At the end of the day, Reed, whose testimony is corroborated in this respect by em- ployee Anderson, unsuccessfully attempted to make further contact with West in the Respon- dent's parking lot. Nothing further occurred until about noon the next day, July 27, when Reed was discharged by Superintendent Lambright for al- leged insubordination. West's testimony cor- roborates Reed's with respect to the solicitations and the reasons for his reluctance to sign an authorization card, but places July 27 as the date when the solicitations occurred. He further testified that during the midmorning conversation Reed voiced a mild profane epithet to express his view of West's reluctance to sign up for the Union. According to West's testimony, between 12 noon and 1 p.m. on July 27, he hailed Foreman Langen- berg, who was then passing by West's work station. He told Langenberg that if Reed continued "push- ing" him there would be a fight. Langenberg, who admits prior knowledge of Reed' s union activi- ty, informed West that the matter should be re- ported to Superintendent Lambright who was then at lunch.' Shortly thereafter, and before Langen- berg could make contact with Superintendent Lam- bright, West observed Lambright returning from lunch, and informed him that he was being "pushed" by Reed and that if Reed persisted there might be a fight. The "fight" was apparently to be begun by West since there is no indication what- ever in the record that Reed implied or proposed any physical activity of any kind toward West. The conversation ended with Lambright informing West that he would speak to Reed. Immediately thereafter, Lambright spoke to Reed. It was during this conversation that Reed was discharged. Lambright, who admittedly knew of two union solicitors other than Reed at the time, stated that following his conversation with West, wherein West informed Lambright of Reed's solicitation and use of profanity, he immediately approached Reed.2 According to Lambright's testimony, he accused Reed of causing trouble in the plant and calling an unnamed employee " names." Upon receiving a denial from Reed , he invited him outside the plant ' West testified that his complaint to Lambnght was confined to Reed's "pushing" and the possibility of a fight resulting therefrom His testimony with regard to the conversation with Lambright makes no mention of the alleged profane epithet 172 NLRB No. 141 1286 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD to discuss the matter. After again accusing him and receiving a denial, he accused Reed of lying. Fol- lowing a 5-10 minute conversation, the contents of which are not detailed in the record, Reed "blew his stack" and told Lambright "that he would talk to anybody he felt like, any time he felt like." Whereupon, Lambright informed Reed that he was "terminated." Lambright testified that he discharged Reed because it came "down to a question of who's running the mill." Following his discharge of Reed, Lambright states that he and Reed then engaged for the first time in a discussion of the merits of unionization. Lambright places the end of the conversation as occurring about 1:20 p.m. Reed testified that on July 27, about 11:45 a.m., while on the way to his lunchbreak, he was ap- proached by Lambright and accused of trying to promote a union and threatening a fellow employee with violence for refusing to sign a union card. When Reed denied the accusation, Lambright in- formed him that the matter was not closed and that if he discovered evidence to the contrary "the work's all going to be over [for Reed]." About 10 minutes later Lambright summoned Reed from the lunchroom and repeated his accusation. Upon receiving a further denial from Reed, Lambright stated that if he caught anyone talking union in the mill they would be terminated immediately and that he was going to get to the bottom of the matter. Lambright then dismissed Reed and told him to go back to work. When Reed was about 20 feet away, Lambright called to him and asked him if he thought the mill needed a union Reed replied that he was not sure but that the Union had many ad- vantages which he thereafter enumerated. In response, Lambright stated that he had found out what he wanted to know, namely, that Reed was a strong union man, and that Reed was through. Reed, whose timecard indicates that he punched out at 1:26 p.m. July 27, recalls the conversation with Lambright as terminating about 12.35. On these facts, the Trial Examiner concluded that Reed's conduct was "clearly insubordinate," and, accordingly, he dismissed the complaint. In so doing, he emphasized the corroborative testimony of the Respondent's witnesses with respect to the exact timing of the discharge and resolved the cru- cial credibility issues in favor of the Respondent.'' We do not agree. West's testimony was that his complaints to both Langenberg and Lambright related solely to Reed's activity in "pushing for the Union" and the possi- bility of a fight resulting from Reed's continuation of such activity. They contained no mention of the profane epithet allegedly uttered by Reed. West further testified that his complaints were motivated by his fear of discharge for associating with any union , and was very specific in pointing this out to his superiors, allegedly because he believed that he had been discharged from another job for engaging in union activity We need not here speculate whether West was attempting to insulate himself from any possible displeasure of management which might flow from the Union's organizing cam- paign and particularly Reed' s union activity, or was attempting to curry management 's favor, or both. Suffice it to say that the alleged profanity was not reported to either Langenberg or Lambright; there- fore , it is clear that West did not indicate to either of them that it was Reed's use of profanity which could give rise to a possible fight, a possibility we deem remote in view of the realities of the language often employed in industrial environments. It is against these background facts that we evaluate the testimony of Reed and Lambright regarding the im- mediate facts and circumstances surrounding Reed's discharge. We are persuaded that Reed's testimony that his discharge followed Lambright's interrogation relating to Reed's union activity is the only credible version of the events because it is in- herently consistent with the other credible facts and the record as a whole. As we have noted, West did not tell either Lan- genberg or Lambright that Reed's alleged profanity would cause him to fight, but as we have also noted, the conversations were concerned with Reed's strong union advocacy which West felt might provoke a fight. Thus, when Lambright ap- proached Reed and accused him of causing trouble M1 Inasmuch as the exact time of the discharge-whether before or after lunch-on which the Trial Examiner largely relies in resolving credibility is not significant insofar as the substance and flow of the events preceding the discharge are concerned, it is of little assistance in resolving credibility All the events happened in the space of about 2 hours between I I a in and I p in on July 27, except for a preliminary incident which Reed, cor- roborated by Anderson but denied by West, placed on July 26 The fact that 4 months after the events took place witnesses from the plant's management , presumably more conscious of the time during the plant workday, agreed in placing the events a half hour to an hour later than Reed did seems to us to afford little support for crediting the remainder of their testimony as to crucial substantive matters Moreover, the Trial Examiner's credibility findings were made despite his own observation that " ( W ]hile a witness , Reed presented a picture of self-righteous sincerity and quiet determination Nothing worthy of note- so far as his witness -chair demeanor was concerned- provided this trier of fact with cogent support for a conclusion that his testimony merits rejec- tion " Since the Trial Examiner 's findings clearly are not predicated on the demeanor of the witnesses while testifying , and since we are convinced that the clear import of the evidence preponderates against the Trial Ex- aminer 's findings with regard to the record facts and circumstances sur- rounding the discharge of Reed , we are impelled to substitute our findings for those of the Trial Examiner Valley Steel Products Company, I I I NLRB 1338, Standard Dry Wall Products, Inc , 91 NLRB 544, enfd 188 F 2d 362 (C A 3) NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. he could only have had reference to Reed's vigorous union advocacy in the plant. Indeed, the Trial Examiner found that: Respondent's superintendent , [Lambright] ... first sought Reed to probe Farwick West's complaint that the dry belt puller's pro-union solicitation had been conducted in some "overly vigorous" manner likely to generate conflict And he further found that Lambright admittedly did question West concerning his union activities but exculpated Lambright's invasion of West's statutorily protected union solicitation because of his conclusion that the interrogation was related to provocation and profane disparagement, matters relating to plant discipline, and did accuse Reed of lying when he denied it. According to Lambright, this interrogation was followed by a 5- to 10-minute conversation before Reed "blew his stack" and allegedly uttered the in- subordinate remark, i.e., "he would talk to anybody he felt like, any time he felt like it" and that "he didn't agree with the way the Company was ran [sic]." These assertions by Reed are hardly pertinent to criticism by Lambright for using profanity in the plant, but are plainly responsive to and consistent with criticism and interrogation by Lambright for, as Reed testified, "trying to get the union in." Finally, Lambright's testimony to the effect that the only mention of the Union occurred after Reed's discharge during what could be described as a calm and philosophical conversation as to the merits of unionization is wholly at odds with our ex- perience.4 As legions of cases clearly demonstrate, "knowledgeable spokesmen for management" scru- pulously avoid discussing the union or an em- ployee's union activities at the time of discharge and any conversations occurring thereafter between management and the discharged employee are nor- mally confined to the merits of the discharge. In view of the foregoing, we are impelled to con- clude contrary to the Trial Examiner that the Respondent's motivation for the discharge of Reed was in whole or in substantial part a reflection of its desire to rid itself of a union activist and that the al- leged insubordination was a mere pretext to cloak its illegal activity. Accordingly, the discharge vio- lated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act. ' As found by the Trial Examiner. Lambright interrogated Reed concern- ing his union activities prior to the 5- to 10-minute conversation preceding the discharge yet he insisted in his testimony that the Union was first men- tioned after the discharge and did not testify as to the contents of the con- THE REMEDY 1287 Having found that the Respondent discharged Robert Reed, on July 27, 1966, in violation of Sec- tion 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act, we shall order the Respondent to cease and desist therefrom, and require that it take certain affirmative action which we find necessary to remedy and remove the effects of this unfair labor practice and to effectuate the policies of the Act. Accordingly, we shall order that Reed be offered immediate and full reinstatement to his former or substantially equivalent job without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges and make him whole for any loss of pay suffered by him by reason of the discrimination against him, from the date of his discharge on July 27, to the date of the offer of reinstatement. Loss of pay shall be computed as prescribed in F. W. Wool- worth Company, 90 NLRB 289, and interest on such backpay shall be computed at 6 percent per annum in accordance with Isis Plumbing & Heating Co., 138 NLRB 716. We shall also order that the Respondent make available to the Board upon request payroll and other records in order to facilitate the checking of the amount of backpay due. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. The Respondent is engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. 2. The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. 3. By discriminatorily discharging Robert Reed, as specified herein, thereby discouraging member- ship in the Union, the Respondent engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor practices are unfair labor practices affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the Respon- dent, National Plywood, Inc., Roseburg, Oregon, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall: versation preceding the discharge even though Reed who had testified earlier had given a full narrative account of their conversation which was replete with numerous references to unions and union activity 1288 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD 1. Cease and desist from: ( a) Discouraging membership in International Woodworkers of America, Local Union No. 3-436, AFL-CIO, or in any other labor organization, by discharging employees, or in any other manner dis- criminating in regard to hire or tenure of employ- ment or any term or condition of employment. (b) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing employee in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act 2 Take the following affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act: (a) Offer to Robert Reed immediate and full reinstatement to his former or substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or other rights and privileges, and make him whole for any loss of earnings , as set forth in "The Remedy" section above. (b) Notify the above-named employee if presently serving in the Armed Forces of the United States of his right to full reinstatement upon application in accordance with the Selective Ser- vice Act and the Universal Military Training and Service Act, as amended, after discharge from the Armed Forces. (c) Preserve and make available to the Board or its agents, all payroll and other records, as set forth in the "The Remedy" section of this Decision. (d) Post at its Roseburg, Oregon, plant, copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix."5 Copies of said notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for Subregion 36, after being duly signed by the Respondent's representative be posted by it immediately upon receipt thereof, and be main- tained by it for a period of 60 consecutive days in all places where notices to employees are posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by Respondent to insure that notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (e) Notify the Regional Director for Subregion 36, in writing, within 10 days from the date of this Order, what steps have been taken to comply herewith. MEMBER ZAGORA, dissenting: For the reasons set forth in the Decision of the Trial Examiner, I would dismiss the complaint. ' In the event that this Order is enforced by a decree of a United States Court of Appeals , there shall be substituted for the words "a Decision and Order" the words "a Decree of the United States Court of Appeals Enforc- ing an Order - APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order of the National Labor Relations Board and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended , we hereby notify you that: WE WILL NOT discourage membership in In- ternational Woodworkers of America, Local Union No . 3-436, AFL-CIO, or in any other labor organization , by discharging employees, or in any other manner discriminating in re- gard to hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of employment. WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with, restrain , or coerce employees in the exer- cise of the right to self-organization, to form labor organizations , to join or assist the above- named or any other labor organization , to bar- gain collectively through representatives of their own choosing , and to engage in any other activities for the purpose of collective bargain- ing or other mutual aid or protection, or to refrain from any or all such activities. WE WILL offer Robert Reed immediate and full reinstatement to his former or substantially equivalent position , without prejudice to his seniority and other rights and privileges previ- ously enjoyed , and make him whole for any loss of pay he may have suffered by reason of the discrimination against him. WE WILL notify the above -named employe if presently serving in the Armed Forces of the United States , of his rights to full reinstate- ment, upon application , in accordance with the Selective Service Act and the Universal Milita- ry Training and Service Act, as amended, after discharge from the Armed Force. All our employees are free to become , or refrain from becoming, members of the above -named or- ganization , or any other labor organization. NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. (Employer) Dated By (Representative ) (Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 consecu- tive days from the date of posting and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. If employees have any question concerning this notice or compliance with its provisions, they may communicate directly with the Board's Subregional Office, 310 Six Ten Broadway, 610 SW Broadway, Portland, Oregon 97205, Telephone 226-3431. NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. 1289 TRIAL EXAMINER'S DECISION Il. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED STATEMENT OF THE CASE MAURICE M. MILLER, Trial Examiner: Upon a charge and amended charge filed August 2 and September 19, 1966, respectively, and duly served, the General Counsel of the National Labor Rela- tions Board caused a complaint and notice of hear- ing to be issued and served upon National Plywood, Inc., designated the Respondent within this Deci- sion . The complaint was issued September 19, 1966; therein, Respondent was charged with unfair labor practices affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended. 61 Stat. 136, 73 Stat. 519. Within Respondent's answer, duly filed, certain factual matters set forth within the com- plaint were conceded; Respondent, however, has denied the commission of any unfair labor practice. Pursuant to notice, a hearing with respect to the issues was held at Roseburg, Oregon, on December 1, 1966, before me. The General Counsel, Respon- dent, and complainant Union were represented by counsel. Each party was afforded a full opportunity to be heard, to examine and cross-examine wit- nesses , and to introduce evidence pertinent to the issues. Since the hearing's close, a brief has been received from Respondent's counsel; that brief has been duly considered. Upon the entire testimonial record, documentary evidence received, and my observation of the wit- ness, I make the following. FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT Respondent, functioning as an Oregon corpora- tion, maintains its principal plant, office, and place of business at Roseburg, Oregon, where it is en- gaged in the manufacture, sale, and distribution of plywood. During its fiscal year, last past, Respon- dent manufactured, sold, and shipped from its Roseburg, Oregon, plant finished products valued in excess of $50,000, directly to various out-of-state points. Upon the complaint's jurisdictional declarations, which are conceded, I find that Respondent was, throughout the period with which this case is con- cerned, an employer within the meaning of Section 2(2) of the Act, engaged in commerce and business activities which affect commerce within the mean- ing of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act, as amended. With due regard for those jurisdictional standards which the Board presently applies-see Siemons Mailing Service, 122 NLRB 81, and related cases-I find assertion of the Board's jurisdiction in this case warranted and necessary to effectuate statutory ob- jectives. International Woodworkers of America, Local Union No. 3-436, AFL-CIO, designated as com- plainant Union within this Decision , is a labor or- ganization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act, as amended , which admits certain of Respondent's employees to membership. III. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. Issues The questions presented for determination herein may be simply stated. General Counsel contends that Respondent's superintendent, Jack Lam- bright-together with Owen Morehaus, plant foreman-questioned various employees with re- gard to their conduct in complainant Union's be- half, and threatened workers with discharge for conduct calculated to promote unionization. Respondent has traversed this contention. Further, General Counsel contends that Respondent's su- perintendent discharged a worker, Robert Reed, because of his membership in complainant Union and his activity on that organization's behalf. Respondent claims , contrariwise, that Reed was dismissed-following a conversation during which Respondent's superintendent had admonished him to refrain from soliciting support for complainant Union with such strenuous zeal that his fellow workers might feel distressed or resentful- because Reed had responded with a defiant declara- tion that he proposed to discuss unionization with his fellows at whatever time or place he chose. B. Facts and Conclusions 1. Background Sometime in July 1966, complainant Union com- menced an organizational campaign within Respon- dent's plywood mill. The precise date when the campaign began has not been specified for the record. (Testimony proffered by Respondent's su- perintendent-which has not been contradicted- would warrant a determination that the campaign was started some I or 2 weeks before the events with which this case is directly concerned, when certain union literature was mailed to various mem- bers of Respondent's production crew, three foremen included; I so find.) On Sunday, July 24, Robert Reed, then serving as a dry belt puller in Respondent's hire, signed a union designation card. (Reed had then been with Respondent for slightly more than 1 year. He had started as a green chain operator.) The next day-on Monday, July 25, specifically-Reed visited complainant Union's hall; there he procured a supply of designation cards for distribution. His testimony would warrant a determination that he began soliciting designation '154-196 (1-T.T - 71 - of 2 - to 1290 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD card signatures from fellow workers the next day. So far as the record shows, there were at least two other designation card distributors; Willis Whelan and Carl Burr testified herein-without challenge or contradiction-that they had, themselves, signed complainant Union's card some time during the month-dates not specified-and that they had sol- icited others to sign Complainant Union's organizational campaign, subsequently, led to a Board-conducted representa- tion vote. Though the record, herein, provides no clue with respect to the precise date when the elec- tion was held, there is consensus that complainant Union therein failed to win representative status. 2. Reed's discharge Meanwhile, on July 27, Robert Reed had been discharged. The testimony with respect to his ter- mination -specifically , with regard to Respondent's precise timing , and with regard to particular cir- cumstances which supposedly preceded or precipitated the discharge-reveals sharp conflict. Since the record 's disparate versions cannot be readily reconciled, my determination regarding the challenged dismissal 's propriety must necessarily rest upon total credence given Reed 's recital, on the one hand, or total credence for the version which Respondent's superintendent proffered. For convenience , their respective testimonial declara- tions will be separately stated. a Reed's version While a witness, Reed proffered a circumstan- tially detailed recital-presumably relevant from General Counsel's viewpoint-dealing with various events within the 48-hour period which had preceded his discharge. The dry belt puller's testimony, with respect thereto, may be sum- marized as follows: July 26: Reed testified that, some 20 minutes be- fore the day shift's scheduled 7 o'clock start, he sol- icited a fellow worker, Farwick West, to sign com- plainant Union 's designation card; that West declared his readiness to sign , and concurred with Reed 's suggestion that he do so during his morning "break" time or lunch period. Later that morning, about 8 o'clock-so Reed testified-while returning to his work station from the mill restroom, he sol- icited Bud Shortner, West's partner on Respon- dent's dryer machine; Shortner, however, declared that he did not think he would sign complainant Union's card. When 9 o'clock came , Reed, while leaving the mill for his morning "break" period, passed West still at work on Respondent's dryer, the dry belt puller renewed his prior suggestion that West come with him to Respondent's parking lot and there sign complainant Union' s designation card. The dryer machine operator-so Reed testified-demurred, however, giving his reasons. There was a brief discussion, following which West declared , merely, that he would consider the matter further . When the day shift ended , at 3.40 p.m., ap- proximately , Reed-who was then discussing com- plainant Union's campaign with another fellow worker , Dwight Anderson-saw West getting into his car Despite Reed 's attempt to hail him, which he seemingly heard , West drove off without signing a card. July 27: With respect to this date-his last on the job-Reed declared , categorically , that nothing un- toward happened until his 11 45 lunch " break" period . Then , so he testified: I was approached by Nate Langenberg, my foreman , and Jack Lambright , my superinten- dent , as I reached [ the] front of the dryer ... Lambright- said , " I hear you are trying to promote this Union by getting the ball rolling." He said that-a certain party-an employee told him that I had said if he didn 't sign a Union card , that I was going to break his head in ... I told Lambright that I wasn 't passing or receiving any cards within the mill. I told him I didn 't tell anyone they had either had to or they didn 't have to sign any Union card . I said I hadn 't threatened anybody. Lambright said then , he said , "This isn't over with yet."- "I'll tell you one thing : If I do find out that you are trying to get the Union in here , the work's all going to be over for you right then. That's going to be it." He said , " What do you think about that?" . . . I looked at him and I said, "Okay," and I walked out to take my lunch break. Some 10 minutes later-so Reed testified-Su- perintendent Lambright summoned him from Respondent 's lunchroom . The two men walked outside; there, according to Reed 's recital. He told me that he had talked to this certain party and he had said that I had threatened him .... He never named no party at all ... I said , " Let's go up to this certain party and ask him," .. "because I haven 't threatened any- one." . . He said that it was rather funny that someone would say something like this about me. I told him I didn 't know . I said, "I sure haven't threatened a soul " . . . Lambright told me then ... that "I'll tell you one thing." .. . " If I catch anyone talking Union in this mill"... "they're going to be terminated right then." .. . "That 's going to be it." . "We have a small mill here and we don't need a Union." He said that any man was welcome to come into his office and talk over any disagreement or squabble that he might have. He told me then ... " I'm going to get to the bottom of this," and he said for me to go on and go back to work ... I turned around and walked off; and I got maybe 20 feet from him ... and he said , "Just a minute ." ... " I'll be just as frank with you as you are with me ." .. " Do you think this mill needs a Union ) " Well, I told him that whether a Union would work or not, I ac- NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. 1291 tually didn 't know , but then a Union had him beat in many ways. And he said , " How is that?" And I told him of the insurance policy for one thing ... I also asked him what kind of retirement benefits he had for a person who had reached retirement age I said , "You have none . . . well, the Union has a retirement pension." And I also discussed the paid holi- days.... He told me right then .. . "Mister ... I have found out what I want to know. .. . You're a strong Union man and what I ad- vise you to do is to go to your Union and get you a job in Union shop because you're all through here ." He said , "That's it." This conversation , so Reed purportedly recalled, took , place at 11 : 55 a.m . or 12 noon . Thereafter, both men continued discuss unionism generally until 12 : 20 p.m . or 12:25 p.m., for some 20 or 25 minutes; their conversation terminated - so Reed testified-with Lambright 's repeated statement that he (Reed ) was discharged . The dry belt puller, therefore , proceeded to his work station , gathered his personal possessions , and proceeded to leave the mill. While doing so, he was purportedly told by a fellow worker that , following their first 11:45 a.m. talk with him , Langenberg and Superintendent Lambright had been seen in vigorous conversation with Farwick West , still at his dryer post . Motivated by this report , Reed , while in Respondent's lunchroom to collect his dinner bucket, sought out West and asked him whether he had told Superin- tendent Lambright that the fry belt puller had threatened him; according to Reed , West declared that he had told "no one" about threats . ( While a witness , Reed guessed that these final mill conver- sations with fellow workers had taken place some 10 minutes after his talk with Superintendent Lam- bright , this would place them at 12:35 o 'clock, ap- proximately .) The dischargee then , presumably, clocked out and left the plant. He testified that he reached home by 1 o'clock . The next day, he returned for his final check. b. West 's recital Summoned as Respondent 's witness , Farwick West provided significantly divergent testimony re- garding his several conversations with Reed about signing complainant Union 's designation card. First : West dated all of his conversations with the dry belt puller on July 27 ; he recalled no July 26 solicitation . Second: He recalled Reed 's first sol- icitation , shortly before 7 o'clock , while both men were walking toward Respondent 's timeclock. Ac- cording to West , no promise was given beyond his promise to consider the matter. Shortly before 9 o'clock-just before West 's morning "break" period-Reed came by to ask whether he had made up his mind yet ; West 's reply, so he testified, was negative . Third West recalled a later conversation. Just before his lunch period-which , so the dryer machine operator testified , was time for 11 o'clock, or "just a little" later , that particular day- Reed once more asked him, while he was at work whether he had made up his mind . West replied, definitively , that he did not wish to sign complai- nant Union 's card . Thereupon , so West testified, Reed queried his reasons . When they were stated Reed disparaged them , purportedly voicing a profane epithet to express his view of West's reluctance . This dryer machine operator, so he testified, was so greatly angered that he was struck speechless . Upon this note, their conversation ter- minated. Some time later- during a period not specified for the record, but presumably between 12 noon and 1 o 'clock-West hailed Foreman Langenberg walking nearby . He reported his last conversation with Reed; declared that " if something didn't straighten up one way or another " both he and Reed would be discharged ; further declared that he had opinions of his own ( regarding unionization) and did not feel that Reed should "push" him; and finally stated that , should Reed keep "pushing" him, the latter might " push " him right into a fight. Langenberg declared his view that the matter should be reported to Superintendent Lambright, but noted that the latter was then lunching. Shortly after 1 o 'clock , West-himself-observed Lambright , returned from lunch , walking through the mill . He related his prior conversations with Reed and Foreman Langenberg ; Lambright, who did not seem familiar with the matter in question- so West testified-said that he would talk with Respondent's dry belt puller. c. Superintendent Lambright 's version While a witness, Superintendent Lambright sub- stantially corroborated West 's testimony. He declared that , following his 1 p . m. return from lunch , he had been hailed - while walking through the mill-by the dryer machine operator . Further, Lambright testified that West, seemingly quite agitated , had then described Reed 's prior efforts to persuade him to sign complainant Union 's card, and had further reported Reed's claimed profanity. West further declared-so Respondent 's superin- tendent noted- that , should Reed return, there would be a fight ; and that he (West ) did not wish to lose his job because of such a controversy . Shortly after this conversation was terminated-at 1:10 p.m. approximately-Lambright observed Reed near Respondent's dryer . His testimony regarding subsequent developments reads as follows: Well, I stopped him and ... I said, "There's a fellow here that says you 've been causing trou- ble, or something to that effect-that you had been calling him names ." And I asked him about it ... He denied this. And I talked to him for a little bit more . He said , " I hadn't been calling anybody names," and I says, "Well, I think we had better go outside and get the thing straightened out." I took him out of 1292 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the mill. I got him outside and I talked to him. He's got a quick temper. I knew that. I re- minded him . . I says, "It seems awful funny to me, Bob, that we got a fellow here that will pinpoint you out and for no reason at all, if you're not causing trouble in the mill-if you're not down there calling him names." And I talked to him ... He denied it ... I told him I didn't believe him outright. I said, "I think you're lying to me," and we talked for about 5 or 10 minutes and then he blew his stack and he told me that he would talk to any- body he felt like, any time he felt like. He said he didn't agree with the way the Company was ran. And I told him at that point , I said, "Be- fore you say any more, you're terminated." .. . Well, the one reason I terminated him, that he told me that he would do anything he wanted to any time he wanted to. I think this come down to a question of who's running the mill. Reed, who was-so Lambright testified-quite angry, blurted that "all of these mills" would be or- ganized , whether Respondent's superintendent liked it or not. Lambright, then, declared that he respected Reed's belief in unionization, but did not think Respondent's mill needed one So far as Lam- bright's testimony shows, this was the note upon which their conversation terminated. Respondent's superintendent timed his final conversation with Reed at approximately 1.10 p.m.; according to his recollection, their limited postdischarge exchange did not take long. d. Review and conclusions While a witness , Reed presented a picture of self- righteous sincerity and quiet determination. Nothing worthy of note- so far as his witness-chair demeanor was concerned- provided this trier of fact with cogent support for a conclusion that his testimony merits rejection . Nevertheless , Reed's narrative-when reviewed with due regard for whatever clues to credibility the record, considered in totality , may provide- fails to persuade. First: Reference should be made to Reed's testimony that his several conversations with Far- wick West took place the day before his discharge. His recitals in this respect , clearly, conflict with West 's recollection . For various reasons, however, West's version would seem to be more worthy of credence . To begin with, Reed 's testimony- calcu- lated to fix July 26 as the date of their several talks- stands without corroboration. (The testimony of Dwight Anderson , which seemingly corroborates Reed 's recollection that he tried to hail West in Respondent 's parking lot-following the conclusion of the mill's July 26 day shift-can hardly be considered supportive of the dry belt pul- ler's testimony that West 's failure to respond im- plied or suggested his rejection of prior solicita- tions True, Anderson did charge Reed with park- ing-lot profanity , following hard upon West's depar- ture, such a reaction- assuming , arguendo , that it did take place-could conceivably provide some in- ferential support for a conclusion that West had, somehow, previously rejected the solicitation of complainant Union 's protagonist . Such a conclu- sion, however, cannot really be considered required.) West's varied recollections, however, stand buttressed with persuasive collateral support Respondent 's superintendent and Foreman Langen- berg, both, testified that West-when he related his supposed July 27 conversations with the dry belt puller-displayed considerable agitation. Common sense suggests that such a reaction would be most likely displayed immediately following some disturb- ing development ; had West 's sensibilities been vio- lated some 24 hours previously, he would hardly have been likely to nurture or preserve his purpor- tedly lively sense of outrage for a full day before bringing a complaint to superiors. Second: Reed's own narrative, clearly, warrants a determination that Superintendent Lambright's determination to speak with him derived some fel- low worker's complaint regarding his purportedly aggressive tactics in complainant Union's behalf. Within this context, his further testimony-calcu- lated to convey the thought that Respondent's su perintendent was, rather, concerned , generally about complainant Union's organizational cam paign-seems too broadly stated Taken by anc large, it struck me as contrived. Third: The dry belt puller's testimony, considerec at face value, would necessarily dictate a conclu sion that Respondent 's superintendent hac discharged him because he (Lambright) considerec him a strong union man, further, that Lambright. indeed, had flatly declared this belief to have motivated his (Reed's) termination. Within his brief, Respondent's counsel notes-with respect to this contention-that General Manager Standley testified, without contraJiction, regarding his prior direction to Superintendent Lambright forbidding discrimination against the firm's workers because of their union sympathies. Further, counsel refers to testimony-proffered and received without chal- lenge-which suggests that Respondent 's foremen had previously been instructed not to express opinions with reference to unionization . With mat- ters in this posture, Respondent 's counsel argues that: It is beyond credulity that an experienced em- ployer representative who knew enough to in- struct his foremen not to express opinions to the men with reference to union activities would have placed himself in such a position [categorically declaring a statutorily- proscribed reason for some discharge] ... The [Trial Examiner ] can take judicial notice that this employer has had previous experience with the National Labor Relations Board and its rules by virtue of the Board's decision in 36-- RC-1433, July 29, 1959. Lambright was em- ployed at this plant prior to the date of said NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. 1293 decision and the subsequent election. Obvi- ously Mr. Lambright knew that such a discharge would have been illegal and yet he is supposed, according to Reed, to have clearly stated union activity as the reason . It is too pat to accept. Counsel 's line of argument , though hardly conclu- sive with respect to the matter now under con- sideration , cannot be dismissed as specious. Knowledgeable spokesman for management, par- ticularly those with Superintendent Lambright's conceded background, would hardly be likely- within a conversational context revealing no par- ticular stress or conflict- to profess openly their reliance upon clearly discriminatory motives when effectuating discharges ; testimony with a tendency to suggest that they "gave the show away " during a terminal conversation should certainly be taken, therefore , with the proverbial grain of salt. Fourth : Reed 's recollection , regarding the timing of his discharge , lacks testimonial corroboration; to the contrary , it conflicts with the completely coherent, mutually corroborative, testimony of Far- wick West , Foreman Langenberg , Superintendent Lambright, and Respondent's president. (Thus, as Respondent 's counsel notes , credence for Reed's uncorroborated version would require a concurrent determination that these four company witnesses were mutually mistaken , or conspiratorially menda- cious .) Summarized , the dry belt puller's testimony-should it be credited-would dictate a factual conclusion that Superintendent Lambright himself began the conversation which finally led to his (Reed's) discharge at 11:45 approximately; that, following a short period while Reed was at lunch, Respondent 's superintendent later resumed their talk at 11 : 55 or 12 noon; that this conversation continued until 12 : 25 thereafter; that Reed, while leaving Respondent 's mill, had a lunchroom con- versation with West at 12:35 p . m.; and that he reached his home some 25 minutes later. Respon- dent 's coordinated presentation , however, would warrant sharply divergent factual conclusions, re- garding the relevant time sequence . Thus, West placed his last conversation with Reed just before his (West 's) lunchbreak ; later , he designated the time of their last talk somewhat more precisely, stating that it had taken place at approximately 1 1 o'clock. He placed his complaint to Foreman Lan- benberg sometime later . ( This Langenberg substan- tially corroborated. West, so he recalled, had spoken with him at 12:30 p.m. approximately. The foreman recalled that Superintendent Lambright was then at lunch , and that West had been so in- formed . Langenberg 's testimony regarding the time when West complained , thus, coordinates with the testimony which Superintendent Lambright and President Standley provided ; their mutually cor- roborative recitals reveal that they customarily lunch together between 12 noon and 1 o'clock.) West and Lambright both testified , consistently with this time schedule , that their conversation took place shortly after 1 o'clock ; their mutual recollections stand supported by Foreman Langen- berg , who declared that he had seen Respondent's superintendent-presumably as the result of his conversation with West previously noted- speaking with Reed between 1 and 1:15 o'clock . Lambright's testimony , placing his final conversation with Reed at 1:10 approximately , thus reflects consistency with the testimony proffered by Farwick West and Respondent 's foreman . Lambright recalled his ter- minal conversation with Reed as lasting some 5-10 minutes; this would place its conclusion somewhere between 1 . 15 and 1 : 20 o'clock . ( The temporal sense which Respondent 's superintendent dis- played , regarding this conversation 's duration, seems, within my view , much more sound than Reed 's. Lambright summarized a conversation which-so he testified- lasted some 5-10 minutes, Reed recalled their talk as lasting some 20-25 minutes. The dischargee 's recollection regarding their discussion 's substance , however , hardly sug- gests such a lengthy talk . The logic of probability, therefore , would seem to dictate a conclusion that the conversation now under consideration was rela- tively short .) For reasons which I propose to discuss further within this decision , Respondent 's coherent, mutually consistent presentation seems more worthy of credence than Reed 's sole recollection. In this connection , note should be taken of the fact that his testimony-dealing with temporal mat- ters-presumptively reflects several flaws. Most ob- viously, conclusions consistent with Reed 's recol- lection would first require my rejection of clear-cut testimony-proffered , without contradiction or challenge, by three company witnesses - that Lam- bright and Standley customarily lunched together between 12 noon and 1 o'clock . Further , Reed's narrative contradicts West 's specification-which General Counsel never challenged - regarding his July 27 luncheon schedule. West placed his final conversation with Reed-during which the latter, so he testified , characterized him in profane terms-at a time "just before [ his] lunchtime" which , on the date in question, was "just a little" after 11 o'clock , or right on the hour . While a wit- ness, however, Reed mentioned a conversation with West in Respondent 's lunchroom , following his discharge. So far as the record shows, West would not have been lunching between 12 :25 and 12 35 o'clock; nor does the record warrant a determina- tion that he would then be having a scheduled break Fifth: Reed 's testimony-with respect to precise- ly when he was discharged-cannot be reconciled with his July 27 timecard record ; Lambright's recollection-with respect to this matter-clearly comports , however , with this " real" documenta- tion. Reed 's timecard shows that he punched out at 1:26 o'clock . ( Though the dischargee, while a wit- ness, refused to concede that the document proffered for his consideration was really his timecard , General Counsel did not challenge its 1294 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD authenticity nor protest its receipt for the record; with due regard , then , for the complete record herein , I am satisfied that the card in question was Reed 's.) The card , further , reflects a computation showing that Reed worked 6 - 1/2 hours . While a witness , he conceded that he had been paid for such a stint , and that 6-1/2 hours ' pay would have been appropriate for a period which had begun at 7 a.m., his starting time , and which had terminated at 1:26 p.m. Sixth : Reed 's narrative , taken at face value, would seemingly call for a conclusion that- throughout his several conversations with West specifically-he remained calm, never lost his temper , never disparaged West in profane terms. Further , Reed contended , consistently , that-when discharged-he voiced no protest , that he kept his temper ; but that he discussed unionization 's merits, calmly and dispassionately " for quite a length of time thereafter" with Respondent 's superintendent. Within the record 's total context , however , the dry belt puller-despite his sober , restrained demeanor while a witness- stands revealed as high spirited, strongly determined in his views , with a somewhat volatile temperament . Item : While in Respondent's employ , Reed had concededly participated in horse- play; when taxed therewith subsequently, by his victim , the dry belt puller-so the record shows- had displayed marked resentment . ( Counsel for complainant Union sought to establish , for the present record , that horseplay such as Reed's was both nonhazardous and common in lumber mills. Such exculpatory contentions however , miss the point . No suggestion has been made that Reed was discharged , herein , because of horseplay , rather, his prior reaction when charged with such conduct is cited Counsel for Respondent suggests that, when Lambright taxed him with supposedly disruptive and hyperaggressive solicitation in complainant Union 's behalf , he responded with comparable resentment .) Item : Reed first denied that he had sworn at Farwick West during their midmorning July 27 conversation. Subsequently, however, he testified that profanity was "very common" among Respondent 's workers , that he , himself, had some- times used profanity , that the particular profane epithet which he supposedly had directed to West was "not shocking " to lumber workmen generally; and, finally , that he "may have said something" comparable to the profanity with which he had been charged , but that " if [he] did" he does not now recall such language . Item • Subsequent to his termination at Respondent 's mill, Reed secured work at Roseburg Lumber Company , while a wit- ness he conceded that-during his employment there-when a jitney driver said "pull that damn cart in" to him , he (Reed ) had been so provoked that he had walked over and hit the jitney driver on the back of the head with his fist These testimonial tidbits , taken together , provide strong support, within my view , for a conclusion that Reed did, in- deed , disparage West in profane terms-and that, when taxed therewith by Respondent 's superinten- dent , he was sufficiently provoked to proffer a deliberately defiant response. Seventh : Reed 's testimony with respect to Su- perintendent Lambright 's declared position-dur- ing their final conversation- lacks consistency and strains credulity . Thus , he testified that Respon- 'dent 's superintendent started their first conversa- tion with a forthright declaration that he had heard Reed was " trying to promote " complainant Union's campaign . ( Reed , however , conceded-within his very next sentence- that Lambright had then referred to Reed 's reported reliance upon threats, in connection with union solicitations .) Following Reed 's denial , previously noted , Respondent's su- perintendent-according to the dry belt puller- said , despite his previous categorical statement of belief, that , " if' he found the dry belt puller to be complainant Union 's protagonist , he (Reed) would be terminated . Some 10 minutes later-when their conversation resumed , supposedly following a con- sultation between West and Respondent 's superin- tendent- the latter , so Reed testified , repeated his threat that " if' he caught anyone " talking Union in this mill " they would be dismissed . This portion of their conversation , supposedly , terminated with Lambright 's statement that he was "going to get at the bottom of this" followed by a direction that Reed resume work . According to the dry belt puller , Lambright 's decision to dismiss him came only when Respondent 's superintendent discovered- following a second renewal of their conversation- that he was a strong union man. The dry belt puller 's testimony fails to explain , however, why Superintendent Lambright would have waited so long to conclude that Reed was prounion. Sup- posedly , Lambright had "heard " of Reed 's solicita- tion in complainant Union 's behalf, before their first July 27 contact . Assuming , arguendo, that Lambright may have , thereafter , recognized Reed's denials and proposed to make some further inquiry, the dry belt puller 's testimony further shows that, 10 minutes later, the superintendent declared that his prior impression had been confirmed . With mat- ters in this posture , Reed 's testimony that Lam- bright continued to threaten a discharge in condi- tional terms, and that his final discharge decision was made following a contrived renewal of their conversation , makes no sense. With due regard for the record , considered in totality , Reed 's purported recollection-with respect to the timing and circumstances of his discharge-must , therefore , be rejected . Respon- dent 's superintendent , I find, first sought Reed to probe Farwick West's complaint that the dry belt puller 's prounion solicitation had been conducted in some "overly vigorous" manner likely to generate conflict . When Lambright , thereafter, finally rejected his denials- telling him , in so many words, that he considered him a liar-the dry belt puller , I find , defiantly declared , consistently with his prior behavior when similarly challenged, that NATIONAL PLYWOOD, INC. 1295 he would "talk to anybody he felt like" whenever he felt like doing so. Such a challenging declaration of purpose did more than reveal Reed's purported intention to transcend statutorily guaranteed rights; within context, his remark was clearly insubor- dinate And Lambright's testimony that the dry belt puller was, for this reason, promptly terminated merits credence 1 Claimed interference, restraint, and coercion Regarding the balance of General Counsel's presentation, summary disposition seems war- ranted. Within his complaint, General Counsel has charged Respondent, inter alia , with interference, restraint , and coercion, through " interrogating em- ployees" with regard to their union activities. Record support for this contention, however, will be found solely within Reed's testimony, which I have rejected. True, Superintendent Lambright's testimonial recital does reveal that he did "question " the dry belt puller. Upon the record, however, determination would seem to be war- ranted that Lambright 's questions , with due regard for their context, cannot legitimately be considered reasonably calculated to interfere with, restrain, or coerce workers in their exercise of rights statutorily guaranteed . They derived, clearly, from the desire of Respondent's superintendent to probe a com- plaint that Reed's statutorily protected union sol- icitations were, really, being conducted provoca- tively, since he was relying upon threats or profane disparagement reasonably likely to disrupt plant discipline. So motivated, I find, Lambright's questions were privileged. With respect to the remainder of General Coun- sel's case, three witnesses were presented. Their testimony-taken by and large-will not sustain his complaint's charges The first witness, Willis Whelan, testified-during direct examination-that Foreman Morehaus had told him anyone caught passing out union designation cards would be discharged. When cross-examined, however, Whelan promptly conceded that Morehaus might have said anyone passing out cards "on company time " would be terminated. General Counsel's second witness, Carl Burr, declared during direct examination -that Foreman Morehaus had told him, following a query about Reed's discharge, that "anyone caught passing out cards will be discharged." During cross-examination, however, this witness-like his predecessor-significantly qualified his testimony; he conceded, flatly, that Morehaus had limited his threat of possible discharge to those distributing cards on company time. General Counsel's third witness, Dwight An- derson, reported, merely, that-following a brief conversation which he and Reed had had while they were returning to their work stations after their morning "break" was concluded-Foreman Morehaus had told him "this talk has got to stop." Subsequently-so the witness testified in direct ex- amination -he (Anderson) had followed Morehaus out of the mill to ask him what he meant; Morehaus had, reportedly, replied that "talking while you are supposed to be working" would have to stop. (Emphasis supplied.) Nothing else-so Anderson declared-was said by Respondent's foreman. (With matters in this posture, General Counsel sought to refresh Anderson's recollection-regard- ing the substance of his conversations with Respon- dent's foreman-showing him, for this purpose, the sworn statement which he (Anderson) had previ- ously given. The witness conceded that he had given the statement. He specifically repudiated its contents, however, contending-for various stated reasons-that his present recollection, with respect to most matters dealt with therein, was better than his purported past recollection recorded. The state- ment-made part of the record subject to reserva- tions-does contain material which could, con- ceivably, sustain a determination , inter alia, that Foreman Morehaus had, really, questioned Ander- son with respect to Reed' s union activities. Pur- suant to well-established decisional doctrine, how- ever, General Counsel must-upon this record-be considered precluded from any reliance upon An- derson 's statement as substantive proof regarding the matters therein discussed. N.L.R.B. v. Quest- Shon Mark Brassiere Co., Inc., 185 F.2d 285 (C A. 2); Local 776, I.A. & S.E. (Film Editors), 124 NLRB 842, enfd. as modified 303 F.2d 513 (C.A. 9). Rationally, such a rule of limitation may be open to serious question. See III Wigmore, Evidence, §1018 (3d ed.); "The Turncoat Witness: Previous Statements as Substantive Evidence," 25 Texas Law Review 573 (June 1947). There can be no doubt, however, regarding the rule's continued viability.) None of this testimony, clearly, reflects a threat of discharge, for solicitation in complainant Union's behalf, which would merit Board proscrip- tion. As Respondent's counsel notes , this Board has, for many years, taken the position that "work- ing time is for work" so that-barring special cir- cumstances not here present- union solicitation by workers on company time may properly be forbid- den. This principle has been judicially approved N.L R.B v Babcock & Wilcox Co., 351 U S 105. So far as the record shows, Foreman Morehaus did nothing more than warn Respondent's workers of possible disciplinary action, should they waste their working time with union solicitation or discussions Such warnings present no statutory violation, and provide no justification for Board sanctions. CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. Respondent, National Plywood, Inc , is an em- ployer within the meaning of Section 2(2) of the Act, engaged in commerce and business activities 1296 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD which affect commerce within the meaning of Sec- tion 2(6) and (7) of the Act, as amended. 2. International Woodworkers of America, Local Union No. 3-436, AFL-CIO, is a labor organiza- tion within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act, as amended , which admits employees of Respon- dent to membership. 3. General Counsel has not , herein , produced re- liable, probative , or substantial evidence sufficient to justify a determination that Respondent did en- gage, or that it presently continues to engage, in un- fair labor practices affecting commerce, within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) or (3) of the Act, as amended. RECOMMENDED ORDER Upon these findings of fact, and conclusions of law, and upon the entire record in this case, my recommendation is that the Board, pursuant to Sec- tion 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, dismiss the present complaint in its en- tirety. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation