Mills-Morris Co.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsJun 8, 1954108 N.L.R.B. 1241 (N.L.R.B. 1954) Copy Citation MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 12.41 tory interpretation , I feel that we cannot avoid the respon- sibility. There are important issues of law raised by the motion in this case . As the majority has decided to deny this motion without considering the legal questions raised , I find no occa- sion here to express any opinion upon them. Indeed, I have arrived at none . I hold only that it is proper for the Board to consider those questions as raised by the motion at this stage in this proceeding , and I would grant the motion to that extent. Member Murdock took no part in the consideration of the above Order Denying Petition for Reconsideration. MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY and RADIO AND TELEVISION ENGINEERS LOCAL 1275, INTERNATIONAL BROTHER- HOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS, AFL. Case No. 32- CA-344. June 8, 1954 DECISION AND ORDER On January 15, 1954, Trial Examiner Eugene E . Dixon issued his Intermediate Report in the above - entitled proceeding, finding that the Respondent had engaged in and was engaging in certain unfair labor practices , and recommending that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action, as set forth in the copy of the Intermediate Report attached hereto . Thereafter , the General Counsel and the Respondent filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report and supporting briefs. The Board has reviewed the rulings made by the Trial Examiner at the hearing , and finds that no prejudicial error was committed . The rulings are hereby affirmed . i The Board has considered the Intermediate Report,2 the exceptions and briefs , and the entire record in this case , and hereby adopts i The Respondent excepted to the Trial Examiner ' s ruling permitting the General Counsel to amend the complaint to allege that Foreman O'Kelly threatened employees on July 10, 1953, that the Respondent's plant would be closed down if the Union's organizational campaign was successful The Trial Examiner assured the Respondent that he would favorably consider any request by the Respondent at the end of the hearing for additional time in order to pre- pare to meet this allegation . No such request was made and the issue was fully litigated. Under the circumstances , we find that the Respondent was not prejudiced by the Trial Exammer's ruling. We shall therefore overrule this exception. See Coca-Cola Bottling Com- pany of St. Louis, 95 NLRB 284. 2 The Intermediate Report contains certain inadvertences, none of which affects the Trial Examiner 's ultimate conclusions or our concurrence therein. Accordingly , we make the following corrections : (a) page 1247 , par. 3, the date " April 25" should read " April 27," (b) page 1250, par. 4, the date "April 23" should read "April 22." 108 NLRB No. 169. 1242 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the Trial Examiner ' s findings ,' conclusions , and recommenda- tions , with the following modifications: 1. We agree with the Trial Examiner ' s conclusion that the Respondent violated Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. In so finding we rely , as did the Trial Examiner , upon the following conduct which, we find , is attributable to the Respondent : ( 1) Lichter- man's interrogation of his employees at the April 27 meeting and his threats that having a union would result in a curtail- ment of privileges then enjoyed by his employees , ( 2) Lichter- man's interrogation of Stiverson on April 22 as to what Stiverson had heard about the Union and who had joined, (3) O'Kelly ' s statement to Keith that the Respondent would close its establishment if the Union came in , ( 4) Lichterman's holding out to Green the possibility of promotion if he abstained from union membership , and (5 ) Walker's questioning of Green as to whether the Union was going to pay him higher wages. 2. The Trial Examiner further found that the Respondent discharged Robert Hamblin on April 22 , 1953, because of his activities on behalf of the Union , and thereby violated Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. The Respondent has excepted to this find- ing. As set forth more fully in the Intermediate Report , Hamblin joined the Union on the evening of April 20 . On the same evening, employee Sawyer , whose membership in the Union had not yet been solicited , informed Sales Manager McIntyre that he had heard rumors about a union at the Respondent ' s establishment. However, the record is devoid of any evidence that Sawyer told McIntyre the name of the Union in question , or informed him of the department or the employees involved in the organi- zational campaign. During the afternoon of April 21, Keith, who was instrumental in contacting the Union and aided in its organizational drive, commenced a discussion in the service shop with several employees . Present in the shop during this conversation was Richardson, whom the General Counsel alleged was, and the Trial Examiner found to be , a supervisor . In the course of the conversation, Keith stated that "the employees were 100% union," apparently referring to the radio and television serv- ice shop employees. On the afternoon of April 22, upon learning that Hamblin had failed to recommend exclusively the Respondent ' s product to a potential customer on the preceding evening, Lichterman, the Respondent ' s president , summoned Hamblin ' s supervisor and instructed him to discharge Hamblin. While this was being done, Lichterman asked Stiverson , who had become a member 3 The Trial Examiner found that the Respondent violated Section 8 ( a) (1) of the Act by Lichterman 's holding out to Green the possibility of promotion to foreman if he refrained from union activities . However, he failed to recommend that the Respondent take appropriate steps to remedy this unfair labor practice, and the General Counsel excepted to his failure to do so. As we concur in the Trial Examiner 's finding in this respect, we shall frame our order and the related notice provisions to effectuate this finding. MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1243 of the Union at the same time as Hamblin , whether Stiverson had heard anything about a union or anyone joining a union. Stiverson replied that the whole service department had be- come members. On the basis of the foregoing , the Trial Examiner concluded that the Respondent was aware that Hamblin was a member of the Union at the time of his discharge , and that this knowledge motivated the Respbndent in terminating Hamblin's employ- ment. Apart from having joined the Union on the evening of April 20, there is no evidence that Hamblin engaged in any union activities of which the Respondent could have become aware . None of the Respondent ' s threats or coercive state- ments were ever directed toward Hamblin . The record dis- closes , and the parties readily concede , that Hamblin was a slow worker and that he had been prodded on occasions to put out the work faster . In fact , a few weeks prior to his dis- charge and well before he joined the Union , the Respondent denied Hamblin ' s request for a wage increase , stating that Hamblin's work did not warrant the payment of additional wages . Moreover , it is undisputed that Hamblin , who frequently made outside television service calls , did not recommend the Respondent ' s product to Sales Manager McIntyre ' s father upon request of his opinion , a matter about which the Respondent might justly complain . Indeed, Hamblin recommended a com- petitor's product. While the matter is not entirely free from doubt , we conclude that the General Counsel has failed to sustain the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that the Respond- ent discharged Hamblin because of his activities on behalf of the Union in violation of Section 8 (a) (3), and that the Trial Examiner erred in so finding . Accordingly , we shall sustain the Respondent ' s exceptions in this connection , and we shall therefore dismiss the allegations from the complaint. ORDER Upon the entire record in this case, and pursuant to Section 10 (c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the Re- spondent , Mills-Morris Company , Memphis , Tennessee, its officers , agents , successors , and assigns , shall: 1. Cease and desist from: (a) Interrogating its employees concerning their unionmem- bership, sympathies , or activities , in such a manner as to interfere with, restrain , or coerce them in the exercise of their rights under Section 7 of the Act. (b) Threatening its employees with loss of privileges or employment or threatening other reprisals against them be- cause of their union membership , sympathies , or activities. (c) Promising its employees economic or other benefits in consideration for their remaining out of, voting against, or 1244 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD refusing to work in behalf of Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL, or any other labor organization. (d) In any other manner interfering with, restraining, or coercing its employees in the exercise of their right to self- organization, to join or assist Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL, or any other labor organization, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in concerted activities except to the extent that such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment, as authorized in Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. 2. Take the following affirmative action, which the Board finds will effectuate the policies of the Act: (a) Post at its plant in Memphis, Tennessee, copies of the notice attached hereto and marked "Appendix A." 4 Copies of said notice, to be furnished by the Regional Director for the Fifteenth Region, shall, after being duly signed by an authorized representative of the Respondent, be posted by the Respondent immediately upon receipt thereof and maintained by it for a period of sixty (60) consecutive days thereafter in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by other material. (b) Notify the Regional Director for the Fifteenth Region, in writing, within ten (10) days from the date of this Order, what steps the Respondent has taken to comply herewith. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint, insofar as it alleges that the Respondent violated Section 8 (a) (3) and (1) of the Act by discharging Robert Hamblin, be, and it hereby is, dismissed. Member Peterson took no part in the consideration of the above Decision and Order. 4In the event that this Order is enforced by a decree of a United States Court of Appeals, there shall be substituted for the words "Pursuant to a Decision and Order" the words "Pur- suant to a Decree of the United States Court of Appeals, Enforcing an Order." APPENDIX A NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order of the National Labor Relations Board, and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, we hereby notify our employees that: MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1245 WE WILL NOT interrogate our employees regarding their union membership , sympathies, or activities , in such a manner as to interfere with, restrain , or coerce them in the exercise of their rights under Section 7 of the Act. WE WILL NOT threaten our employees with loss of privileges or employment or threaten other reprisals against them because of their union membership, sym- pathies, or activities. WE WILL NOT promise our employees economic or other benefits in consideration for their remaining out of, voting against, or refusing to work in behalf of Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers , AFL, or any other labor organization. WE WILL NOT in any other manner interfere with, restrain , or coerce our employees in the exercise of their right to self-organization , to form labor organiza- tions , to join or assist Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherhood of Electrical Work- ers, AFL, or any other labor organization , to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing and to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, or to refrain from any or all such activities , except to the extent such right may be affected by an agreement requiring membership in a labor organization as a condi- tion of employment as authorized in Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. All our employees are free to become or refrain from be- coming members of the above -named labor organization or any other labor organization. MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY, Employer. Dated . ............... By.................................................... (Representative ) ( Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 days from the date hereof, and must not be altered , defaced , or covered by any other material. Intermediate Report and Recommended Order STATEMENT OF THE CASE Upon charges and amended charges duly filed by Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherho'id of Electrical Workers, AFL, herein called the Union, the General Counsel for the National Labor Relations Board, herein called the General Counsel 1246 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD and the Board respectively, by the Board's Regional Director for the Fifteenth Region (New Orleans, Louisiana), issued a complaint dated September 21, 1953, against Mills-Morris Company, herein called the Respondent, alleging that Respondent had engaged in and was en- gaging in unfair labor practices affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) and (3) and Section 2 (6) and (7) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, 61 Stat. 136, herein called the Act. With respect to the unfair labor practices thecomplaint, as amended at the hearing, alleged that Respondent committed unfair labor practices against its employees by (a) interrogating them regarding their union activities, (b) threatening them with reprisals because of their union activities, (c) promising them economic benefits if they would refrain from union activities, and (d) discharging Robert Hamblin because of his union activities. Admitting the commerce facts alleged in the complaint, Respondent's answer denies that the facts establish the Board's jurisdiction. The answer also denies the commission of any unfair labor practices and demands proof that the Union is a labor organization. Pursuant to notice a hearing was held October 19, 20, and 21, 1953, at Memphis, Tennessee, before the undersigned Trial Examiner duly designated by the Board's Chief Trial Examiner. The General Counsel, the Respondent, and the Union were represented at the hearing and were give full opportunity to be heard, to examine and cross-examine witnesses, and to introduce evidence bearing on the issues. Oral argument was waived but briefs were received from the General Counsel and the Respondent. Prior to the hearing a motion to make the complaint more specific was denied by Trial Examiner Richard N. Ivins. It was also denied when made again at the hearing as was Re- spondent's motion to strike certain paragraphs of the complaints. Upon the entire record and from my observation of the witnesses, I make the following: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT Respondent is a Tennessee corporation maintaining its principal office and place of busi- ness at Memphis, Tennessee, where it is engaged in business as a wholesale distributor of automotive parts, electrical appliances, and other items and as a retailer of other equip- ment. In the course and conduct of its business in the 12 months preceding the hearing, Re- spondent purchased goods and merchandise valued in excess of $ 55,000, of which at least $ 50,000 worth was purchased and received from points outside the State of Tennessee. During the same period Respondent sold goods and merchandise valued in excess of $ 100,000, of which at least $ 50,000 represents the value of said merchandise and goods sold to persons or firms situated in places outside the State of Tennessee. In addition, during the same period of time Respondent sold an unspecified amount of merchandise to the Naval Air Training Center at Millington , Tennessee , the United States Army Depot at Memphis, and an Air Force installa- tion center at Memphis. Despite Respondent's contention to the contrary, I find that it is engaged in commerce within the meaning of the Act. Cf. Marden Manufacturing Company, 106 NLRB 1335. II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION The record as a whole shows, and I find, that Radio and Television Engineers Local 1275, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL, exists for the purpose, in whole or in part, of dealing with employers concerning wages, hours of employment, or conditions of work and is a labor organization within the meaning of the Act. III. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. The issues Apparently with little or no preliminary employee discussion, on Saturday, April 18, 1953, i Roy Keith, employed by Respondent as a television technician, called Eugene Parham, the i All dates are in 1953 unless otherwise indicated. MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1247 business agent of the Union , about organizing Respondent's employees . The following Monday Keith arranged a meeting for that night with Charles Gullick, Robert Hamblin, Kenneth Stiverson , and Cecil Gann, all radio and television technicians , employed by Respondent in the service department or in the parts and stock department. The five employees met that night and joined the Union. The discharge of Hamblin 2 days later is alleged by the General Counsel to have been dis- criminatorily motivated . The Respondent 's defense is that (a) it had no knowledge of Hamblin's union activity at the time of his discharge, and (b) that Respondent 's simmering inclination to dispense with Hamblin 's services because of his slow production rate reached a climax by reason of Hamblin 's recommending, on a service call, a make of television other than the one sold by Respondent. The main allegation of interference , restraint , and coercion by Respondent involves re- marks by Respondent 's president , Martin Lichterman , particularly at a meeting with the union members on April 27 . This and other allegations of Section 8 (a) (1) violations of the Act turn on questions of agency, privilege under Section 8 (c) or credibility resolutions. B. Interference , restraint , and coercion On April 25 , after Respondent 's officials became aware of the Union ' s campaign and the identity of the employees interested therein, Respondent 's president , Lichterman, called the union members (Gullick, Gann , Keith, and Stiverson) into his office for a meeting. Present also were Sales Manager Gene McIntyre, Jr ., Service Manager Milton Allen , and a Mr. Dunlap , the factory representative--not an employee of Respondent . The four union members testified about the meeting as witnesses for the General Counse4t in substance as follows: The meeting lasted about an hourandahalf. When Lichterman started talking he had a docu- ment in his band that be identified as a copy of a collective -bargaining agreement between the Union and Orgill Brothers.3 Lichterman indicated that the contract was "not so bad" and that he was going to sign the same type of contract; but before he signed , he had a few things to say. He told the employees that in a large business , unions were all right , but that a union was not needed in a business like Respondent 's; that the employees were like brothers to him but after signing the contract he would "hate their guts." He talked about the benefits and prospects they then had which they would not have under a union. By way of illustration he gave examples of how recognition of the Union would personally affect each of the employees. Telling Gann that he was in line for promotion to outside salesman on the road , he asked Gann if the latter thought he could be put into the position if he joined the Union . Answering the question himself, Lichterman said that he could not - -that he would keep Gann in the estab- lishment where he could be watched , and commented further, "I couldn't trust you on the road." Keith was told he was a prospective assistant service manager --or even service manager if Milton Allen left--but not in the event the contract was signed . With a union, Lichterman would not trust Keith "back there as service manager" he said. In his remarks directed to and about Stiverson , Lichterman pointed out that Stiverson had had a great deal of compensated sick leave and added , "Next time you get sick I am going to fire you for chronic sickness . You have everything to lose and nothing to gain because you are in the Union." As for Gullick . Lichterman pointed out, he was pretty much his own boss. No check was made on the length of time he spent on any given service call or on exactly what he did while there. Lichterman suggested the possibility that Gullick at times could be engaging in activity of a personal nature quite beyond the requirements of the job or the scope of his authority. 2Stiverson was also called as a witness on behalf of the Respondent . Of the four, Stiverson was the only one who, on direct examination by the General Counsel, did not testify with certainty that Lichterman had said he would take certain action regarding working conditions if or when he signed a union contract. At the beginning of his testimony Stiverson 's recol- lection was that Lichterman had said he could take certain action , not that he would. But on particularizing Lichterman 's remarks illustratively , Stiverson'p testimony in many instances accorded with the others ' and Lichterman 's threats were alluded to in terms of what he would do rather than could do. In any event, whether Lichterman threatened that he could do them . I would consider the effect as being the same. 3 Apparently another radio and TV dealer with whom the Union had a contract. 1248 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Nevertheless, no question was ever raised 4s to such a possibility--but once he signed the contract, according to Lichterman, he would watch for such activity on the part of Gullick and the first instance of such conduct that came to his attention would result in Gullick's dis- charge. After completing his illustrations Lichterman polled each employee as to whether he had changed his mind about the Union.4 Receiving negative replies from each Lichterman said, "All right, boys, I am going to sign it Wednesday. It is your butt and not mine." In addition to the foregoing, according to the General Counsel's witnesses, Lichterman also told the employees at this time that when he signed the contract he was going to make it so "miserable around there" for them that they would not stay on their jobs long, that when summer came he would lay them off and replace them with other union members; that as for references, all that he could tell anyone about them was that they were "disloyal to the Company." According to Gann's further testimony, he was called into Lichterman's office the following day and again asked by Lichterman if he had changed his mind about the meeting of the previous day. Gann said he had not. Lichterman said, "You mean after that meeting yesterday you haven't changed your mind." Gann said, "No, sir" and walked out. McIntyre, Allen, and Lichterman all testified about the meeting of April 27. The substance of Allen's testimony was that Lichterman told how he had studied labor relations in college and was thus familiar with "those things." Lichterman stressed the advantages and disad- vantages of unions and traced the progress of each employee showing how they had gained substantially in Respondent's employment. He also referred to the "many benefits that the Company had given them voluntarily," and "stressed the fact" that the employees did not need a third party to discuss grievances for them since they were always welcome at the office for such discussions. McIntyre testified as follows about the April 27 meeting: That Lichterman commented about the Orgill Brothers' contract saying he "would" sign such a contract if that's what the employees wanted but that he wanted them to hear the whole story. He had studied about unions in school. Unions had accomplished the most good in the coal mines but he did not think a union was needed in Respondent's business because his door was always open to the employees. As an example he cited an uistancewhen Gann came to him and asked for a 10-cent raise. They talked it over and settled for 5 cents. He also mentioned Stiverson's receipt of wages during his illness saying that under the union contract he was not obligated to treat him that way, that that became an obligation of the Union "or something similar to that" according toMclntyre's testimony. McIntyre corroborated the comments attributed to Lichter- man to and about Gullick, testifying that it was said in a jocular vein but that Lichterman did not say he "would" discharge Gullick but that he "could" discharge him. According to McIntyre's further testimony, Lichterman also told the employee that up to then they had had no layoffs because of slow work but that if work became slack he could lay them off which was "agreeable to the Union"; that with respect to references he would not feel obligated to say that the employees "were loyal to the Company." He concluded his re- marks by saying he did not feel they needed a union but that he wanted them to think it over very thoroughly. He then asked each one if he had made up his mind. McIntyre also testified that Lichterman made no threats to the employees; that he did not make the remark about hating his employees' "guts"; that Lichterman did not say he was going to sign the contract but that he would be willing to sign. Lichterman's testimony was: That he traced the history of the labor movement saying that there were reasons for unions in many places but that he did not think Respondent's busi- ness was one of them; that he wanted to relate "some advantages and disadvantages of being in a union." He then went "over it with each employee to personalize how they had fared at Mills-Morris," and "asked each in turn if they thought we needed a third party to help us iron out our differences." He referred to Gann and himself agreeing on a wage increase and asked Gann if he thought they needed someone to come in and arbitrate between them. He referred to Stiverson's never missing a paycheck while in the hospital and asked, "Why do we need some third party to come in and adjust that? As a matter of fact," he commented, "if there was a union in here we would have to bring them in on it before I could give you any other wages." 4Accordmg to Gann's testimony, he was asked in effect by Lichterman if his answer was motivated by fear of the others and also was asked if he was now "on the fence." Gann's answer was "no" to both questions. MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1249 As for Gullick. he admitted jokingly attributing to him the unchecked and unheeded pos- sibility of his engaging in extra-job activity but was not certain whether he told Gullick that if it was found out after a union came in he would be discharged. Lichterman testified, "I might have said, 'if we had a union contract here, under those conditions, if we found out about it I would have the right to fire you' I don't remember precisely how I worded it." Lichterman further testified on direct examination regarding this meeting of April 27 that "most of the testimony that has been given in this hearing has been substantially correct except quite a bit of it has been left out." He denied on the stand making the statement he would sign the contract explaining that he frequently said "If I did sign this" using that as an example. He then modified this denial by an indication of uncertainty about the matter. He also denied the "hate your guts" comment attributed to him, testifying that what he did say was "if you join a union I can't feel the same way about you as I do if you are not in the Union." He also testified that in his opinion he never threatened or made promises to anyone regarding his union activities. An analysis of the foregoing testimony presents little difficulty in reaching a conclusion that the General Counsel's version is credible. Except for the nonprobative opinions of Respondent's witnesses that no threats were made by Lichterman in his remarks, there actually is no denial or refutation of the General Counsel's basic evidence. In view of this and considering Lichterman's admission that all the testimony about the April 27 meeting was substantially correct, a and noting the fact that there is no real conflict or incompatibility in the two versions I find that regardless of what else may have been said Lichterman did make the remarks attributed to him in the General Counsel's testimony. Accordingly, I find that in pointing out to the four above employees in what respects their having a union would result in a curtailment of privileges they then enjoyed in their employ- ment without a union, Respondent exceeded the scope of expression authorized by Section 8 (c) of the act and thereby violated 8 (a) (1) thereof. In addition to these threats of reprisals by Respondent against its employees, Lichterman's interrogation of them at the end of the session as to their own desires and attitudes regarding unionization, coming as it did im- mediately after and in connection with coercive conduct on the part of Respondent, is also an invasion by Respondent of the rights of its employees guaranteed under Section 7 of the Act and violative of Section 8 (a) (1) thereof. Also violative of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act, I find, was Lichterman's interrogation of Gann when the latter was called into the office and asked if he had changed his mind about the meeting of the previous day. 6 Lichterman's statement about the kind of references his employees would merit if they embraced a union, which I find to have been substantially as set forth in the General Counsel's testimony also constitutes a violation of Section 8 (a) (1) by Respondent as did Lichterman's threats to make things so "miserable around there" for them if he signed the contract that they would not stay on their jobs long and that when summer came he would lay them off and replace them with other union members. In addition to the foregoing violations of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act by Respondent, the complaint as amended alleges certain other violations by Respondent concerning which the evidence is as follows: 1. According to the undenied credited testimony of Charles M. Brown, a former employee of Respondent, sometime between May 7 and 10 Supervisor Henry Burch? asked Brown if he was going to the "party" that night. Apparently somewhat later Brown asked Burch what party he was speaking of. Burch identified it as a union meeting. Brown said he had heard of no union meeting. Later on Brown did learn of a union meeting and told Burch that he was going. Burch said he did not want a union, that he would not like to work under one but that if it was necessary he would join it if one "was to come to Mills-Morris." I find no violation of the Act in the foregoing. 2. Current respondent employee Charles Green testified that on July 16, the day before the election. Supervisor Gene Walker asked Green if he was going to vote for Walker to collect the union dues, and also asked Green what his wage rate was and if the Union was going to pay him more. Green told Walker that the wages were too low. Twenty to thirty 5 All the General Counsel's testimony about the meeting had been offered at the time Lichterman so testified. 6Syracuse Color Press, Inc., 103 NLRB 377. 7 It was stipulated that Burch, as well as Gene Walker, Warren O'Kelly, and Ritter were supervisors within the meaning of the Act. Burch did not testify. 339676 0 - 55 - 80 1250 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD minutes later Green was called into Lichterman 's office where the latter stated that he had heard that Green was dissatisfied with his wages. Lichterman questioned Green as to whether he had ever asked for a raise. Green said he had asked Burch . Lichterman told Green he should not have stopped there but should have come to him or another higher official. Lichter- man then stated he thought Green could get a raise and also told Green he had a chance of promotion to foreman by staying out of the Union but that in the Union he "couldn't have a chance." In his testimony Walker admitted having a conversation with Green on the day in question which Walker described on the stand as an airing of his personal opinions. He denied he asked Green how he was going to vote. He confirmed Green's testimony that the latter had a conversation with Lichterman that day since he was present for the last part of it. He denied knowledge as to whether Lichterman sent for Green but testified that Lichterman did not threaten Green. Lichterman , although testifying that he remembered having a conversation with Green on July 16, offered no evidence as to what was said nor did he deny or contest the accuracy of the testimony given by Green. As regards Green's conversation with Lichterman , except for Walker's conclusion that Lichterman did not threaten Green, Green 's testimony stands undenied . I credit Green. I also credit Green in his testimony , undenied by Walker , that Walker asked him if the Union was going to pay him higher wages. This question by Walker, in my opinion under the circumstances herein , constitutes illegal interrogation attributable by reason of Walker 's supervisory status to Respondent . Also in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act was Lichterman 's holding out to Green the possibility of promotion to supervisory status in consideration of his staying out of the Union. 3. Stiverson testified that between 3 and 4:30 on the afternoon of April 23 he and Lichter- man went outside to look atLichterman 's car radio. On the way back into the building Lichter- man asked him if he had heard anything about a union or anyone joining a union . Stiverson said he had . Lichterman asked who and Stiverson replied "all of us," indicating the whole service department . Lichterman said "you and Cecil, too" indicating surprise. This testimony is not denied and is essentially admitted by Lichterman in his testimony. I credit Stiverson and find that this constitutes yet another invasion by Respondent of its em- ployees' rights by reason of illegal interrogation in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. 4. Roy Keith testified regarding a conversation with Supervisor O'Kelly on May 5 or 6 in the presence of several employees including Bill Lynch. Keith said something to O'Kelly about the Union coming in. O'Kelly said there would never be a union in Respondent 's estab- lishment. Keith said there was nothing to stop a union from coming in. O'Kelly replied that he had sat in on management conferences regarding the question of the Union and that there was "plenty they can and will do to stop it." Keith asked , "Like what? " Kelly replied, "Close the place down," adding that such a course had been followed by Respondent "up north." O'Kelly testified on direct examination that he did not recall making the statement that there never would be a union in Respondent 's establishment. But he denied making the state- ment that he had sat in on management conferences where It had been decided to close down if a union came in. On cross -examination O'Kelly at first testified that he could recall no conversation with Keith concerning another Mills-Morris plant that was closed down--nor would he deny having had such conversation . Then he did deny it, saying "not with Roy Keith. He may have heard me talk with somebody some time that Mills -Morris sold out some business before. " I credit Keith. O'Kelly did not deny the major premise of his comments that there would never be a union at Mills -Morris. If he made that statement , which being undenied I find he did , it would normally be expected that he would follow it with some kind of supporting argument . This, plus his equivocation regarding the conversation with Keith about the closing of another Mills-Morris establishment puts his testimony in a less favor- able light than Keith 's. Accordingly , I find that he did make the statement that Respondent would close its establishment if the Union came in and that such statement was coercive within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. C. The discrimination against Hamblin 1. Knowledge of Hamblin 's union activity As will be recalled , it was on the night of April 20 that Hamblin and the four other tech- nicians joined the Union. The following morning , according to Keith's undenied and credited MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1251 testimony, he asked Charley Hughes whom he knew only as a clerk in the office, if he was going to join the Union . Hughes asked "what union , what are you talking about? " Keith told him the Union had 100 percent membership in the television shop. "No kidding" replied Hughes adding as he left "Well, good luck with your union." According to Keith's testimony the Union was a general subject of conversation in the shop all that day . In addition to his talking to Hughes I find, on the basis of his undenied testimony, that Keith also talked about the Union that day with Tom Sawyer, C. P. Lambert, and Don Richardson . The conversation with Sawyer and Richardson took place after lunch at 2 p. m. at the corner of the appliance service department. It apparently was mainly between Sawyer and Keith with Richardson and others listening.8, It was a general conversation in which it was brought out that the Union had 100 percent membership in the service department and in which the eligibility of other employees was discussed. On the same day (April 21), according to Sales Manager McIntyre 's testimony , having learned about the Union from Sawyer at McIntyre 's home the night before , the latter reported what he had learned to Lichterman. 9Lichterman's reaction was one of unconcern, "Well, you haven 't been here very long . We have been hearing rumors of this sort off and on for quite a few years. Just don't pay any attention to it.... Just don't worry about it. That crops up every now and then ." Lichterman confirmed Mcintyre 's impression -as to his reaction to the information about the Union testifying that he was "not a bit" concerned. Significantly Lichterman testified on direct examination that he could not "remember actually whether 1Hamblitl] was mentioned or not at that time." 2. Concluding findings as to knowledge In these cases it is usually disagreeable and difficult to reach a convincing conclusion as to whether or not an employer actually had knowledge of a discriminatee's union activity before or at the time the alleged discrimination occurred . This case is no less disagreeable and is hardly less difficult than the usual case to dispose of in this respect. Nevertheless for the following reasons , I conclude and find that Respondent was aware of Hamblin 's union activity at the time he was discharged. It is admitted that McIntyre and Lichterman had knowledge of some kind of union activity involving their plant the day before Hamblin's discharge . Considering the small size and specialized type of the unit which was the subject of the Union's initial efforts, it is difficult to see how McIntyre, getting any information at all as he admitted he did, could have avoided learning some of the definite details. Equally questionable is Lichterman 's claim of utter unconcern about the Union at that time --particularly in view of his lengthy , vigorous, and largely illegal stand against the Union in his meeting with the employees on April 27. On this same day (April 21 ) moreover Richardson , at that time in charge of the appliance service departme t , whom I find was a supervisor . 10 was informed that all the employees of the radio and television shop, which would include Hamblin, had joined the Union. It was late in the afternoon on April 22 that Hamblin was discharged , about 30 seconds, according to Keith's testimony , after Lichterman and Stiverson went outside to examine Lichterman 's car radio . On the way back in, it will be recalled , Lichterman interrogated Stiverson as to who had joined the Union. Upon being Informed that it was everyone in the service department including Stiverson and Gann, Lichterman indicated surprise not as to 8Neither Hughes nor Richardson, both of whom the General Counsel contends are super- visors, testified. Their supervisory status will be discussed in concluding findings below. 9 From Mcintyre's testimony it would appear that what he learned was little more than the fact that a union was in the picture in some manner. On cross-examination he denied receiving any information about what department or which employees were involved in the union cam- paign or its extent. 10 According to Lichterman's testimony, Richardson (1) "routed" the people in the depart- ment "to jobs," (2) did the buying for the department, (3) had the function of hiring "in a limited way" his recommendations onhiringand firingwere "given particular consideration," (4) directed the manner in which the employees did the work, (5) although spending about 25 to 30 percent of his time on the same work as those under him, was paid a higher rate, (6) was considered by management "a boss in a limited way." and (7) did not vote in the Board election ultimately held at the plant. Since it is unessential to the disposition of the case. I make no finding as to the status of Hughes and, of course ,. base no findings on evidence involving him. 1252 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD the three service employees involved but only as to Steverson and Gann whose work was essentially in the parts department and who Lichterman apparently thought were ineligible for union membership. U Having already learned the day before that organizational activity had begun among the employees, elicitation of that fact from Stiverson, of course, would have evoked no surprise on Lichterman's part. The significance of Lichterman's attitude I conclude, as suggested by the General Counsel, is that Lichterman knew the Union had claimed some employees but that he thought it was confining its membership to the three technicians of the service department, which would include Hamblin. 3. The discharge and defense thereto At the time of his discharge in the late afternoon of April 22, Hamblin had worked for Respondent about 6 months. In his duties Hamblin spent about two-thirds of his time on radio repair work, made some TV service calls, and helped in the parts department. He had had about 81 years' experience in radio and TV repair work and had completed a full course in radio from the National Radio Institute. Prior to his employment by Respondent he had been employed by the Dixie Appliance Company in Memphis for about 5 months as a radio and TV technician. Before that he had been connected with the Roberson Electric Supply Company in Pontotoc, Mississippi, for about 7 years. During that period about half of his time was spent as an employee and half as part owner, all of which time he performed the duties of a radio and TV technician--most of the work, however, being with radios. On direct examination McIntyre testified that Hamlin was discharged for "slow work, poor work and having no loyalty to Mills-Morris and the products he was serving." On cross-examination, McIntyre assigned only slowness and disloyalty as the reasons for the discharge. Hamblm's immediate supervisor, Milton Allen, testified on direct examination as to "kickbacks" on Hamblin's work, but was unable on cross-examination to cite one such example. The testimony of Katz of Dixie Appliance, called by the Respondent, and of Rober - son, called by the General Counsel, for the most part would seem to amount to self-neutral- izing conclusions. Of the two, nevertheless, for reasons which I believe are apparent on the face of the record, I would place more credence in Roberson's testimony. Stiverson, on the stand as Respondent's witness, testified that the work Hamblin did was good but that "he was mighty slow." u It was stipulated that if Keith and Gullick were re- called to the stand by the General Counsel in rebuttal they would have testified that Hamblin's work was a little slower than average but that he did a careful "good" job which resulted in a lower than average percentage of "kickbacks" or complaints about his work, and that he was frequently called upon to "fix the hard jobs." The record shows, and I find, that Hamblin was a competent although somewhat slower than average workman and that notwithstanding McIntyre's attempt to brand the quality of Hamblin's work as poor 13 and Allen's to discredit it with customer complaints about it, I find that such was not the case nor would it appear that Respondent seriously raises poor quality of work as a defense regarding Hamblin's discharge. According to Hamblin's testimony, on April 22 at about 11:30, Allen first told him about a meeting of employees in Lichterman's office at 5 p. in. He was reminded of the meeting again by Allen that afternoon about 3:20. Thereafter, that afternoon. Allen came back to Hamblin's bench with the information that Respondent was "going to have to let" him go and told him to go talk to McIntyre. 14 Hamblin went to see McIntyre but returned to his bench when he found McIntyre talking to some people. After a lapse of a few minutes Allen came up with Hamblin's check telling Hamblin that his discharge was for economy reasons. ii Lichterman's surprise may have been solely because of Stiverson's having joined the Union and not grounded on eligibility but on a sense of ingratitude by Stiverson for considera- tion given him by Respondent when he was ill. Ti It is apparent in the record that Stiverson's evaluation of radio and TV technicians in the Memphis area as a whole and of the current or past employees of Respondent was not very high. Conversely, he considered himself better than average. Stiverson's rate was 1.20 per hour while Hamblin's was 1.25. 19Mclntyre was not a radio or TV technician. On cross he testified he had no customer complaints about Hamblin's work. 14Hamblin's testimony on this was vague: Allen "said something about Mr. McIntyre. I didn't quite understand all that he said...." MILLS-MORRIS COMPANY 1253 The evidence is undisputed that about 3 weeks before his discharge Hamblin informed both Allen and McIntyre about a job offer paymgmore money but requiring longer hours. On direct examination Hamblin testified that he asked Allen if there was any prospect of a layoff, ss and was assured there was none. On cross-examination Hamblin admitted asking Allen for a raise at this time and being referred by Allen to Lichterman. Not being able to see Lichter- man at the time, Hamblin made apleato McIntyre for intercession on his behalf with Lichter- man. He also told McIntyre about his job offer. According to Hamblin, McIntyre told him he would mention Hamblm's request to Lichterman. On cross-examination while not denying that McIntyre had told him to take the other job Hamblin's testimony was that he did not think McIntyre told him that. He did deny, however, that McIntyre told him his work was too slow and that he was not worth what Respondent was paying him. That, of course, is what McIntyre testified. The importance of the resolu- tion of this matter is whether or not this incident resulted in any statements by Respondent which could be interpreted as a warning or criticism to Hamblin regarding his work. Signifi- cant to the resolution of this conflict is McIntyre's further testimony that about a week after his conversation with Hamblin the latter asked him, "Have you done anything about my raise? " This testimony is so consistent with Hamblin's version and is so incongruous with McIntyre's that I am inclined to credit Hamblin's version and find that McIntyre did not criticize Hamblin for his work. The most the record shows along this line is that either directly or by inference, Hamblin learned or should have become aware that Respondent was unwilling to increase his rate in order to retain his services. In making the foregoing con- clusions and findings I do not wish to be understood as concluding that Respondent's position regarding Hamblin's slow performance and its dissatisfaction therewith is entirely without merit. I believe Respondent was concerned about it, as would be any employer who is interested in getting the most for his labor dollar; but I do not believe nor do I find that the evidence establishes that its concern was such as to have caused it to take the initiative in improving the situation. is The keystone of Respondent's defense as to Hamblin's discharge is that Hamblin had recommended to McIntyre's father a TV set other than Motorola, the only brand handled by Respondent, and that as soon as Lichterman learned of that he immediately and for that reason ordered Hamblin's discharge. The evidence shows that sometime in April, Hamblin made a TV service call to the home of G. S. McIntyre, Sr., father of Respondent's sales manager. During the call McIntyre, Sr., asked Hamblin's opinion as to what make TV was the best buy. According to McIntyre, Sr.'s, testimony Hamblin replied, "Emerson." McIntyre said, "I expected you to say Motorola." Hamblin replied, "Well, you asked me what I thought was the best and I told you." McIntyre further testified that Hamblin told him that according to "some Consumer's Index" Emerson had been rated the best. Hamblin in rebuttal denied that he told McIntyre, Sr., that Emerson was the best set to buy. According to Hamblin's testimony, in a general conversation with McIntyre, Sr., about TV. Hamblin asked McIntyre if he had seen the newer models of Emerson, adding that Emerson had "made as much improvement as anybody I have seen yet, I believe, any set. Also the Philco has unproved theirs some, too, and Admiral has improved theirs." According to the testimony of McIntyre, Jr., on the night of April 21, he dropped in on his father to see how the set was working and learned at that time what Hamblin had said about the Emerson TV. The next day about 4 p. m. McIntyre told Lichterman what he had learned from his father, summarizing the story with the comment "This really caps it with Hamblin." iT Lichterman immediately called in Allen telling him to "Fire Hamblin and b He explained this concern about a layoff as being motivated by the knowledge that service work generally falls off in the summer--a fact I find to be supported by the record although there is no showing that seasonal layoffs had ever occurred in Respondent's plant. i6 Allen testified that by subcontracting the radio repair work since Hamblin's discharge Respondent has lowered its costs to less than one-third of what they were on that work when Hamblin was doing it. This testimony is meaningless in view of Allen's admission on cross- examination that the cost figures he compared were gross figures upon which no attempt was made to determine the unit costs for the periods in question. rr Explaining what he meant by that statement McIntyre testified that they (presumably he and Lichterman), at some unspecifiedtime had discussed Hamblin's "slowness of work and his inability to keep up with it," which, coupled with his "not being loyal to the company... just capped the whole works." 1254 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD fire him right now and I don't mean five minutes." Allen asked what reason to give. Lichter- man said, "Tell him it is an economy move. Tell him anything but tell him he is fired" then relented somewhat instructing Allen to tell him only that it was an economy move, indicating that there was "no need to be unpleasant about it." Lichterman's testimony corroborates McIntyre's but adds thatwhenhe learned of Hamblin's conversation with McIntyre, Sr., he "saw three different colors of red." He also testified that it was after receiving this information and as a result of it that he called the 5 p. m. meeting that day. This testimony presents a conflict with the General Counsel's since the latter's evidence would show that the meeting had been announced before Lichterman learned of Hamblin's Emerson remarks and, as shown by Hamblin's inclusion in the announcement of it, before his discharge. The resolution of this conflict is important but being to a large extent a subjective matter can hardly be discussed with complete analytical satisfaction. What took place at the meeting, however, can be so discussed and, bearing in mind Lichterman's testimony that it was Hamblin's conduct which motivated his calling the meeting, is of importance in either supporting or detracting from the good faith of Respondent's position. The meeting apparently was attended by practically the whole plant. The General Counsel's testimony is was substantially that three subjects were covered by Lichterman who did all the talking--(1) loyalty to the Company, (2) the past, present, and future of the Company, and (3) customer relations. Lichterman started his remarks with a joke directed at a latecomer to the meeting which evoked laughter from the assemblage. 19 He then commented that "I very seldom get mad, but when I do I really boil and I am boiling now." Despite this comment he settled into his dissertation in a perceptibly unruffled vein. 20 With respect to the company prospects Lichterman pointed out how the business was growing and that if the parts depart- ment continued to grow to 18 employees Gann would be in charge and would draw a salary commensurate with his position.?i Regarding loyalty to the Company, Lichterman said, "If you can't get along with people here, if you don't like your work or you think you are not getting enough money, you can quit and go elsewhere. You ought to quit." Nothing in the Respondent's testimony about this meeting contraverts the evidence offered by the General Counsel. In fact, McIntyre's testimony corroborates the General Counsel's. He confirmed the comments about the growth of the business and its significance to Gann's position in the Company; he also corroborated the suggestion that the employees who did not like their work should quit. On direct examination McIntyre testified that he was sure whether Lichterman had made any remarks about loyalty to the Company. On cross-examination he testified that his memory was "a little vague" as to Lichterman's remarks on loyalty but to the best of his recollection Lichterman had said he expected "loyalty from everyone to the company." However, he did not recall that Lichterman had elaborated on that remark or explained what he meant thereby. Neither the testimony of Allen nor of Lichterman himself adds any detail to the above. Indeed their testimony about the matter was quite brief and in the most general terms --particularly regarding any remarks about loyalty.tt Analysis of the foregoing evidence, I believe, raises considerable question (1) as to whether Hamblin's remarks to McIntyre, Sr., actually were discussed at that time and (2) if they were as to the importance, if any, attached by Respondent to them. Those remarks, allegedly having been so aggravating to Lichterman as to have caused him to see "three different colors of red" and to call his employees together ostensibly to listen to his comments thereon, strangely enough merited not a mention. The only evidence which appears regarding Lichterman's attitude about employee loyalty is bound up with employee acceptance of their wages and working conditions--matters directly germane to the employer-employee relationship (as Is Based largely on Keith's testimony but Gann also testified about the meeting substantially as Keith did. i9As described by McIntyre, the joke involved a man who "was so mad he couldn't hear." Lichterman's remarks, infra, about his being angry may have been for the purpose of making his anecdote more pungent. 20 This is born out by McIntyre's testimony that his reaction was that Lichterman "was very composed" in his talk for a man who claimed to be as angry as Lichterman claimed to be. 21 Gann testified that this was the first intimation that he had ever had that he was in line for such a position. 22 Lichterman's only testimony on the subject of loyalty was that he "talked ... about loyalty to Mills-Morris ... generally." To the same effect Allen: ".. , he talked about loyalty to the company...." MILLS -MORRIS COMPANY 1255 distinguished from the type of thing attributed to Hamblin) and also germane to the question of unionization--particularly when a union is trying to organize the employees involved. It would appear, and I find, that it was in connection with his employees' attitude regarding the Union that Lichterman's remarks about loyalty to Mills-Morris were made in that meeting. That he was Inclined to consider any acceptance of union representation on the part of his employees as disloyalty to Respondent is amply demonstrated by his threat to the union adherents a week later that their union membership would result in his attributing disloyalty to them in the event his references were ever sought by prospective employers. In view of the foregoing, and because Hamblin's testimony is undenied that he was told by Allen twice that day about the 5 p. m. meeting, I conclude and find that the meeting had been arranged prior to the time and with different motives than testified to by Lichterman. Such being the case, it seems to me, the major premise of Respondent's defense as to Hamblin's discharge--namely his comments to McIntyre, Sr.--falls. At best, then, this was merely the "occasion of but not the reason for" Hamblin's discharge. Semet-Solvoy Division. Allied Chemical & Dye Corporation, 99 NLRB 222. In connection with and bearing on this situation was Respondent's seemingly strange reluctance to mention the matter not only to the other employees but to Hamblin himself. In spite of Lichterman's ire and McIntyre's sense of ultimate concern about it, neither one was willing to confront Hamblin with his wrong doing or give him a chance to explain-- Lichterman demonstrating a gentleness incongruous with his emotional reaction to it and McIntyre inexplicably refusing to discuss it with Hamblin at the latter's request. 23 My reactions to and conclusions about the effect of Hamblin's low production have been noted. Significant in this connection is Respondent's admitted failure to complain to him or warn him about it. u This failure becomes doubly suspect when considered in the light of Stiverson's undenied, credited testimony as Respondent's witness that two predecessors in Hamblin's job, William Bell and Roy Dean, had been repeatedly criticized officially and specifically on their work and threatened with discharge unless improvement was shown. There remains one other facet of the evidence to discuss. Gann testified that the morning after Hamblin's discharge Allen came back to the service department and asked Gann if he knew why Hamblin had been let out. Gann replied that he did not know and asked the reason. Allen replied that it was because Hamblin had joined the Union. Gann further testified that he could see that Allen did not know "they" had joined the Union. Keith's testimony, corroborated by Gullick, was that having been informed by Gann of Allen's disclosure, Gullick and Keith went to Allen for the purpose of telling him they also had joined the Union.t5 There they first asked Allen why Hamblin had been discharged. Allen informed them that Respondent had "been intending to fire him for a long time and the union business brought it to a head." They then Informed Allen of their union membership. In his testimony Allen denied telling anyone that Hamblin had been discharged because of union activity but did admit that he was informed by the union adherents on the morning in question of their union membership. I deem it unnecessary to resolve this conflict since the preponderance of the evidence, reflected by the foregoing findings and conclusions Y6 in my opinion supports the allegation of the complaint that Hamblin was discharged because of his union activity. Nor do I attach any significance to the testimony of the General Counsel's witnesses as to their irrelevant assumption that Allen did not know they had joined the Union. 27 While the reasons assigned isHamblin called McIntyre at his home the night of the discharge and asked why he had been discharged; McIntyre refused to discuss the matter. tAlleen's testimony shows no specific criticism or warnings on his part. The evidence shows that Allen on occasion would prod Hamblin to get the work out as fast as he could bet never directly told him his work was too slow. Even though this might be considered as criticism, the disparity between this treadment and the treatment of Hamblin's predecessors is obvious. McIntyre made a similar admission on cross-examination but qualified it by citing his discredited comments to Hamblin regarding the latter's request for a raise. Cf. Blue Bell, Inc., 107 NLRB 514. 25 At this point it was their concensus that Allen did not know they were in the Union and they delaided to tell him According to Keith's undenied testimony they told Allen".. , we thought we better tell you before you get yourself into any more trouble." 26Another conclusion not heretofore noted is the timing of Hamblin's discharge coming as it did so soon after the union campaign became known to Respondent. Blue Bell, Inc., supra 27My position would be the same no matter how I resolved the conflict. 1256 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD by Respondent for Hamblin 's discharge may have been cause to discharge him, I find that they were not the real reasons but were mere pretexts relied upon to conceal the true anti- union motive , Rugcrofters of Puerto Rico , Inc., 107 NLRB 256, which was discriminatory within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. Respondent contends that because there is no evidence that Hamblin 's discharge discouraged union membership or activity on the part of the employees , it cannot be found that Respondent has violated Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. The Board as sustained by courts has consistently held otherwise. Humble Oil & Refining Co . v. N. L. R. B. 113 F. 2d 85 (C. A. 5); Joy Silk Mills , Inc. v. N. L. R. B., 185 F . 2d 732 (C. A., D. C.), cert. denied 341 U. S. 914; Gavnor News Company , Inc., 93 NLRB 299, enfd. 197 F . 2d 719 (C. A. 2), cert. granted March 9, 1953. Nor is the finding of discrimination by Respondent against Hamblin prevented by the fact that Hamblin was not the union leader among the employees . Lakeside Packing Company, 104 NLRB 902; W. C. Nabors Company 89 NLRB 538, enfd. 196 F. 2d 272 (C. A. 5). W. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE The activities of the Respondent set forth in section III, above, occurring in connection with the operations of the Respondent described in section I, above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States, and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of commerce. V. THE REMEDY Having found that the Respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices violative of Sec- tion 8 (a) (1) and (3) of the Act, it will be recommended that the Respondent cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. It has been found that the Respondent discriminatorily discharged Robert Hamblin. It will be recommended that Respondent offer Robert Hamblin immediate and full reinstatement to his former or a substantially equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority and other rights and privileges, The Chase National Bank of the City of New York, San Juan, Puerto Rico Branch, 65 NLRB 827, and make him while for any loss of pay he may have suffered by payment of a sum of money equal to that which he normally would have earned as wages from the date of his discriminatory discharge to the date of the Respondent's offer of rein- statement less his net earnings during said period. Crossett Lumber Company, 8 NLRB 440, 497-8. Back pay in each case shall be computed on a quarterly basis in the manner established by the Board in F. W. Woolworth Company, 90 NLRB 289. The Respondent, upon request, shall make available to the Board, payroll and other records to facilitate the determination of the amounts due. The character and scope of the unfair labor practices engaged in indicate an intent to defeat self-organization of employees and goes to the heart of the Act. It will be recommended that the Respondent cease and desist from such acts and from in any other manner interfering with, coercing, or restraining its employees in the exercise by them of the right to engage in concerted activities for the purpose of mutual aid or protection guaranteed them in Section 7 of the Act. Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and upon the entire record in the case, the undersigned makes the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. The Respondent, Mills -Morris Company, is engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act. 2. By discharging Robert Hamblin the Respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (3) of the Act. 3. By interfering with, restraining, and coercing its employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act, Respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor practices are unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act. [Recommendations omitted from publication.] Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation