Los Angles New HospitalDownload PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsSep 11, 1979244 N.L.R.B. 960 (N.L.R.B. 1979) Copy Citation DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Los Angeles New Hospital and Hospital and Service Employees Union, Local 399, SEIU, AFL-CIO. Case 31 CA 8181 September 11, 1979 DECISION AND ORDER By CHAIRMAN FANNING AND MEMBERS JENKINS AND PENE.IIO On May 8, 1979, Administrative Law Judge James T. Rasbury issued the attached Decision in this pro- ceeding. Thereafter, the General Counsel filed excep- tions and a supporting brief. The Respondent filed an answering brief and, in addition, filed cross-excep- tions and a supporting brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the Na- tional Labor Relations Board has delegated its au- thority in this proceeding to a three-member panel. The Board has considered the record and the at- tached Decision in light of the exceptions and briefs' and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings,' and conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge, as modified herein, and to adopt his recommended Or- der, as modified herein. 1. We agree with the Administrative Law Judge that Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by engaging in numerous acts of coercive interroga- tion and by threatening employees. In particular, we agree with his finding that Supervisor Randall unlaw- fully threatened employee Cooke with discharge if he persisted in discussing and reading union literature during his nonworking time and in a nonpatient care area. In view of the Supreme Court's recent decision in N.L.R.B. v. Baptist Hospital, Inc., supra, however, we shall elaborate on the Administrative Law Judge's findings in this regard. In Baptist Hospital, the Supreme Court reaffirmed its recent holding in Beth Israel Hospital v. N.L.R.B., I Subsequent to the issuance of the Administrative Law Judge's Decision herein and the filing of exceptions and briefs by the parties. the Supreme Court issued its decision in N.LRB. v. Baptist Hospital, Inc.. 442 U.S. 773 (1979). a case involving the Board's rules regarding restrictions on employee solicitation and distribution in health care institutions. Thereafter. Respon- dent filed a request for special leave to file a supplemental brief arguing the effect of this decision on the Administrative Law Judge's findings. The Board's associate executive secretary denied this request as untimely. Upon reconsideration, and in view of the Supreme Court's decision in Baptist Hos- pital, we have decided to consider Respondent's statement. a copy of which was retained in the Board's files. In view of our findings set forth more fully hereafter, however, nothing in Respondent's statement convinces us that a different result is warranted in this case. 2 In the absence of exceptions, we adopt. pro forma,. the Administrative Law Judge's dismissal of the complaint with respect to statements attributed by employee Fox to Supervisors Cam, Stratton, and Siolek 437 U.S. 483 (1978), that the Board's adverse pre- sumption regarding employer proscriptions against solicitation and distribution in areas other than im- mediate patient care areas strikes an appropriate bal- ance between the legitimate interests of hospital em- ployees, patients, and employers. The Court, however, expressed concern about the propriety of applying the adverse presumption to restrictions on solicitation in hospital corridors and public sitting rooms located on patient floors. The Court noted that discussion of nonpatient care topics in these areas might conceivably interfere with the "necessity of cre- ating and maintaining a tranquil atmosphere throughout the hospital for patients and visitors." 442 U.S. at 780. Nonetheless, the Court held that the pre- sumption was valid as applied to certain public areas in hospitals, such as cafeterias, gift shops, and first floor lobbies. Implicitly, the Court also held the pre- sumption valid with respect to those areas which are accessible only to hospital staff, not patients or visi- tors. See id. As found by the Administrative Law Judge, there is credible testimony that Respondent threatened an employee with discharge if the employee persisted in reading union brochures to several employees in an enclosed room used by the employees as a break area. Noting that the record shows that the room was used regularly by the employees for lunches and breaks and contains a couch and two chairs for that purpose, the Administrative Law Judge rejected Respondent's contention that the room was not a break area but rather was part of an adjacent operating room. In addition to those factors relied on by the Administra- tive Law Judge, the record shows that at one time there was a sign on a door leading into this room designating it the "Doctors' Lounge." The room con- tains a bulletin board,3 and although the room is ad- jacent to a corridor leading to an operating room, the room is not generally accessible to patients or visitors. Thus, although on occasion a doctor might use the room to confer with a patient's relatives or friends, there is a separate waiting area for visitors on the same floor. In view of the foregoing, we find that un- der any reading of the Court's opinion in Baptist Hos- pital the breakroom involved here is a nonpatient care area. See 442 U.S. 784-785 (Chief Justice Burger, concurring). Accordingly, we adopt the Administra- tive Law Judge's conclusion that Respondent's at- tempt to restrict Cooke's activities therein violated Section 8(a)( 1) of the Act. See St. Joseph Hospital, 228 NLRB 158, 160 (1977). 2. Contrary to the Administrative Law Judge, the record amply supports a finding that Respondent cre- See also Beth Israel Hospital . N L. R B. supra at 490. 244 NLRB No. 157 960 LOS ANGELES NEW HOSPITAL ated the impression it was keeping its employees' pro- tected activities under surveillance. In dismissing the General Counsel's allegations of actual surveillance and creating the impression thereof, the Administra- tive Law Judge concluded that the record would not sustain a finding that either Respondent's president and chairman of the board, Stanley Diller, or Super- visors Sol Goldner and Margaret Stratton engaged in actual surveillance on June 19, 1978. In agreement with the Administrative Law Judge, we find that the record does not create more than a mere suspicion regarding the actions of the foregoing supervisors. Al- though Diller was observed standing next to his auto- mobile on Respondent's premises about the time a union organizational meeting was scheduled to take place at a hotel located across the street, there is no testimony that he did more than simply stand there. Similarly. Goldner and Stratton, who were seen in the hotel's bar at the time of the above-mentioned meet- ing, regularly stopped at that bar after work, accord- ing to credited testimony. Thus, it would be specula- tive at best to infer that their presence in the bar at the time the organizational meeting was being con- ducted in another room in the hotel was for the pur- pose of surveilling that meeting. Cf. Fox & Jacobs, Inc., 221 NLRB 1159(1975). However, the Administrative Law Judge evidently failed to consider additional evidence which we be- lieve supports the General Counsel's allegation that Respondent created the impression of surveillance. According to the credited testimony of employee Fox, Administrator Jeffrey Steadman told Fox that he "felt sorry for me because I was under a lot of pres- sure and that I had to watch every move I made be- cause Mr. Diller was watching me." Later, according to Fox, he told Diller that he had ceased his involve- ment with the Union and Diller responded: "That's good, because he's still watching me." The Adminis- trative Law Judge found these statements, constituted "derogatory and repressive antiunion comments." We find instead that they amounted to threats of reprisal and, further, particularly considering evidence of Re- spondent's interrogation of employees about the union activities and sympathies of fellow employees, clearly created the impression that employees' union and other protected, concerted activities were under surveillance. See King Acres Stores, Inc., 220 NLRB 925 (1975); The Dayton Tire & Rubber Company, a Division of the Firestone Tire & Rubber Company, 207 NLRB 624 (1973). 3. Finally, we disagree with the Administrative Law Judge's finding that Respondent did not violate Section 8(a)(1) of the Act when Diller and Goldner questioned Theresa Siminski, Goldner's secretary, about her union activities and the activities of other employees, requested that she not attend a scheduled union meeting, and, later, suggested that she attend the meeting and report back to management what transpired. The record, in our view, fails to support the Administrative Law Judge's finding that Siminski was a confidential secretary and not entitled to pro- tection under the Act. The Administrative Law Judge found that at all times relevant Siminski was a "personal and confi- dential secretary" to Goldner. Goldner's duties at the time involved such matters as budgeting, accounting, payroll, employee evaluation, raises, and data pro- cessing. Additionally, he attended regular manage- ment meetings and was Respondent's representative at negotiations with insurance carriers concerning Respondent's group insurance plans. Siminski's du- ties included typing and filing of all of Goldner's memoranda and correspondence, some of which re- lated to the Respondent's personnel and other man- agement matters. In finding Siminski to be a confi- dential secretary, the Administrative law Judge relied specifically on eight documents typed b Siminski for Goldner. They included memoranda to employees regarding changes in employee benefits. evaluations of particular employees and supervisors, an employee's termination letter, and other internal management memoranda regarding payroll and other matters. Contrary to the Administrative Law Judge. we do not believe that Siminski's access to confidential in- formation, some of it relating to labor relations, or her having typed the above-described documents, is sufficient to have constituted her a confidential em- ployee. As the Board stated in The B. F. Goodrich Company, 115 NLRB 722, 724 (1956), the category of confidential employees is limited to persons "who as- sist and act in a confidential [relationship] to persons who formulate, determine, and effectuate manage- ment policies in the field of labor relations." This category is a narrow one. Dun & Bradstreet, Incr., 240 NLRB 162 (1979). Mere access to confidential mate- rial, albeit confidential labor relations material, is not sufficient to confer confidential status. Ernst & Ernst National Warehouse, 228 NLRB 590, 591 (1977). Fur- ther, the typing of confidential labor relations memo- randa does not, without more, imply confidential sta- tus. United States Postal Service, 232 NLRB 556 (1978). Accordingly, we find that Siminski was not a confidential employee and that Goldner's and Diller's interrogation of her, their attempt to dissuade her from engaging in union activity, and their requests that she report on the protected activities of other 9hl61 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD employees were all in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.4 AMENDED CONCIUSIONS ()F LAW Substitute the following for Conclusions of Law 3 and 4 of the Administrative Law Judge: "3. Respondent, through the activities of Supervi- sors Diller, Steadman, Randall, and Zafrani, has in- terrogated and threatened employees, and created the impression that its employees' protected activities were under surveillance, thereby interfering with, re- straining, and coercing its employees in the exercise of their rights guaranteed by Section 7 of the Act in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. "4. The Respondent has not engaged in actual sur- veillance of its employees' protected activities, nor has it acted with an illegal discriminatory motive in instituting a number of changes in its employees' fringe benefits." ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Rela- tions Board hereby adopts as its Order the recom- mended Order of the Administrative Law Judge, as modified below, and hereby orders that the Respon- dent, Los Angeles New Hospital, Los Angeles, Cali- fornia, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall take the action set forth in the said recommend- ed Order, as so modified: 1. Substitute the following for paragraph (a): "(a) Interrogating employees about their union ac- tivities or sympathies or the activities or sympathies of other employees; requesting employees to attend union meetings in order to inform on the union activi- ties or sympathies of other employees; suggesting that employees refrain from engaging in union or other protected concerted activities; telling employees that they are being watched thereby creating the impres- sion of surveillance; or threatening employees with reprisals for engaging in union or other protected concerted activities." 2. Substitute the attached notice for that of the Administrative Law Judge. 4 Additionally, we would note that the Administrative Law Judge's finding that confidential employees do not enjoy protection under the Act, although consistent with the decisions of several courts of appeals, is, with all respect to those courts of appeals, inconsistent with current Board law. See Hen- dricks County Rural Electric Membership Corporation, 236 NLRB 1616 (1978). It is well settled that it is the duty of an administrative law judge "to apply established Board precedent which the Supreme Court has not re- versed." Iowa Beef Packers, Inc., 144 NLRB 615. 616 (1965). Because Member Penello is finding here, as he did in Hendricks, that the individual in question was not a "confidential employee." Member Penello does not regard the issue of whether such persons are protected by the Act as being before him. NOTICE I) EMPI.()YES POSTED BY ORDER OF IIil NATIONAL LABOR REILATIONS BOARD An Agency of the United States Government After a hearing at which all parties had the opportu- nity to present evidence, the National Labor Rela- tions Board has found that we violated the National Labor Relations Act and has ordered us to post this notice. The Act gives employees the following rights: To organize themselves To form, join, or help unions To bargain as a group through representa- tives they choose To act together for collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection To refuse to do any or all of these things. WE WILL NOT question our employees about their union membership, activities, or desires, or about the union membership, activities, or de- sires of other employees. WE WILL NOT suggest that employees attend union meetings and report back to management. WE WILL NOT request that employees refrain from attending union meetings. WE WILL NOT tell employees they are being watched, thereby creating the impression of sur- veillance. WE WILL NO1 prohibit our employees from en- gaging in union and/or protected, concerted ac- tivities in nonpatient care areas during their non- working time. WE WILL NOT threaten our employees because of their concerted, protected activities and/or their union activities or membership. WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere with, restrain, or coerce our employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act. Los ANGELES NEW HOSPITAL. DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE JAMES T. RASBURY, Administrative Law Judge: This case was heard by me in Los Angeles, California, on December 5, 6, and 7, 1978.1 On September 15 the Regional Director for Region 31 of the National Labor Relations Board issued I All dates hereinafter shall refer to the year 1978, unless otherwise indi- cated. APPENDIX 962 LOS ANGELES NEW HOSPITAL a complaint and notice of hearing, based on an unfair labor practice charge filed on July 12, alleging that Los Angeles New Hospital (herein Hospital or Respondent) had violated Section 8(a)( ) and 3) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, 29 U.S.C.. §151, et seq. (herein the Act). All parties have been afforded full opportunity to appear, to introduce evidence, to examine and cross-examine wit- nesses. and to file briefs. Based upon the entire record. in- cluding the briefs filed by the General Counsel and Respon- dent's counsel, and upon my observation of the demeanor of the witnesses, I make the following: FINDINGS OF FA(I I. JURISI)I( ION Respondent is now, and at all times material herein has been, a limited partnership with an office and principal place of business located in Los Angeles, California, where it is engaged in the operation of a proprietary hospital. Re- spondent, in the course and conduct of its business opera- tions, annually purchases and receives goods or services val- ued in excess of $50,000 directly from suppliers located outside the State of California. Respondent, in the course and conduct of its business operations, annually derives gross revenues in excess of $500,000. On the basis of these admitted facts, I herewith find Respondent to be, and at all times material herein to have been. an employer engaged in commerce and in a business affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act. It. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION Respondent admits and I herewith find the Union to be, and at all times material herein to have been, a labor or- ganization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. Ill. THE ISSUES I. The complaint alleges numerous acts by acknowl- edged hospital supervisors to be threats, interrogation, sur- veillance and/or the impression of surveillance of the em- ployees' union and/or concerted, protected activities and thus violative of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Changes in the medical and dental plans and reduction in sick leave bene- fits are alleged to be discriminatory for purposes of discour- aging union activities and thus violate Section 8(a)(3). IV. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES A. Introduction On or about May 30 the hospital notified all of its em- ployees, including supervisors, that the hospital's sick leave 2 The following named individuals were acknowledged by the hospital to be supervisors and to occupy the positions indicated: Michael Bland-head of security; Vickie Cam-lab supervisor; Stanley Diller-president and chairman of the board: Janet Ford--director of purchasing: Lorin French- assistant supervisor, patient accounts; Sol Goldner-assistant administrator, fiscal affairs: Ora Randall-operating room supervisor; Mary Siolek-nurs- ing coordinator; Jeffrey Steadman-administrator; Margaret Sratton- head of admitting; Ron David-supervisor, X-ray department; and Cy Zafrani assistant administrator. policy would be changed effective June 5 (Resp. Exh. 12). In response to the May 30 memo regarding the change in sick leave policy, two employees- Richard Fox and Rich- ard Hopkins-began circulating a petition protesting the change in policy. Copies of the petition were prominently displayed on bulletin boards, and Fox and Hopkins circu- lated the petition during the hospital's daytime hours, mak- ing no effort to keep their activities secret. and, in fact. approached numerous supervisory employees and asked them to read and sign the petition. Stxon after the petition had been circulated throughout the hospital the primary petition organizers - Fox and Hop- kins-requested a meeting with Jeffrey Steadman, the hos- pital's administrator.' The two employees met with Stead- man and, after showing him the petition with the numerous signatures, asked Steadman to help them arrange a meeting to present the petition to Stanley Diller, the president and chairman of the board of the hospital. Thereafter a meeting was arranged which was attended by employees Fox. Hop- kins. Robert Bailey. Shirley Dizinski, and Megan Edgeton, with Steadman. Homlberg-personnel director and Dil- ler. The petition was presented to Diller, and there was discussion concerning the possibility of forming a hospital grievance committee. The committee was formed and it met in a classroom on the seventh floor of the hospital several days later with management's knowledge and permission. On June 19 a number of the hospital's emplosees met with representatives of the Union at the Ramada Inn. a restaurant, bar, and hotel directly across the street from the hospital. The June 19 meeting was widely publicized, and there was no apparent attempt to keep the meeting place secret. It was during this period of time that a number of inci- dents and conversations are alleged to have occurred which the General Counsel contends establish the violations. B. Details of the Various Incidentrs Richard Fox testified that on Friday, June 2, after the employees had received ntification the day before stating that the hospital would no longer pay for the first day of' sick leave, he and Richard Hopkins began circulating peti- tions to be presented to management protesting this change of policy. Fox testified that he had received permission from his supervisor, Vickie Cam, to circulate the petition because the work was slow, and he was asked by Vickie Cam to remain available in the event the workload changed. According to Fox, Cam indicated her sympathy and approval with what he was doing, but indicated she would not sign the petition because she was a supervisor, or member of management. Fox testified that he also spoke to Margaret Stratton and Mary Siolek. According to Fox. while each of these supervisors were in sympathy with what he was doing, they each warned him that he had best be careful because his job might be in jeopardy. On cross-ex- amination he was uncertain of what words had been used by the supervisors. 3 Steadman's employment with the hospital terminated on or about Sep- tember 25. 963 DF[('ISIONS OF NATIONAL. I.ABOR REI.ATIONS BOARD) Victoria L. ('am testified that she is no longer employed by Respondent. She voluntarily resigned effective June 16. after having submitted her resignation as of May I hut agreed to stay on f)r an additional period because a num- ber of other people in her department were scheduled for vacation. ('am testified that she recalled Fox having come to her with the petition on Monday. June 5, after the notifi- cation had been received by all employees the previous Thursday. Cam testified that she recalled Fox asking her if' he could pass the letter around to other employees to sign, and that she gave him permission, but told him to do it at his breaktime and lunch periods in order not to jeopardize a job in the laboratory. According to Cam, Fox requested to circulate the petition on his free time and she gave him permission, "but I told him, since I believed he was sched- uled to be in the section at that time, where he was to be in there most of the time because of the emergency work that comes in, so I told him to be careful about not missing work or emergency work when he decides to circulate the letter around. Then I told him to be careful and to make sure he doesn't defeat the purpose of this whole thing and to be open with the administration and talk to them about it." Cam specifically denied warning Fox that his job was in jeopardy or that she would discipline him in any way or report him to anyone else if' he continued to circulate the petition. Margaret Stratton testified that she was approached by Fox and asked to sign the petition. which she declined by replying that she was part of management and did not feel that she should sign the petition. Stratton testified that she told Fox he should bring what he was doing to the attention of the department head and to the administration, so as not to jeopardize the effectiveness of' the policy, "that it should be through the chain-of-command." Stratton stated she also told Fox she sympathized with the purposes of the petition, and for that reason felt it was important for him to follow the proper chain-of-command so that the administration could understand what the employees were upset about and act on it. Stratton specifically denied that she told Fox that he would be fired or that he should be careful that Diller did not learn about the petition, or that she threatened to report his activities in any way. Mary Siolek was not called by Respondent to testify. According to the testimony of Fox, after the petition had received the signatures of most of the employees, he and Hopkins went to Steadman's office for the purpose of re- questing a meeting with Diller in order to present the peti- tion and signatures to him. Steadman-who appeared to be a very sincere and honest witness that had great difficulty in recalling the details of the incident-recalled that Hopkins and Fox had come to see him, and that they were very much concerned about the recent change in the sick-leave policy. There was little or no testimony regarding what may have occurred when the petitions were presented to Diller. However, either through Diller or Steadman, Fox testified that they obtained permission to have a permanent em- ployee grievance committee and that this committee re- ceived permission and did meet in the seventh floor meeting room of the hospital. According to the testimony of Fox, at the meeting of the employee grievance committee numer- ous complaints were discussed, and evidently the tone of the meeting changed trom just a grievance committee meet- ing to a union organizational meeting. Fox testified that he went back to Steadman and advised him that he was not in sy mnpathy with what the employee grievance committee was doing. and that ift in fact the employees did resort to a union, that he would probably resign. Out of this confusion an organizational meeting with the Union was set up lfr June 19 to take place at the Ramada Inn, which was located directly across the street from the hospital. Fox further testified that on June 17 and 18. he was in- volved in passing out "memos" which were "to let the em- ployees know that it was-- there wias a meeting at the Ramada Inn and that they needed their support and they could find out what was happening as far as benefits and things for the Hlospital." The memos were being passed out in the cafeteria. and when iller came in, he asked Fox if he could have one of the memos, after which he commented that he (Diller) "felt I was working too hard in the matter." On June 19 Fox stated that he had been working in the lab when he heard that Diller was there looking for him, and he went to Diller's office. Diller denied that he had been looking for Fox. but Fox took advantage of this op- portunity to explain to Diller that he was working hard on this matter because he was an asthmatic "and if I need 8 hours off: I can't afford to lose the pay for it." According to Fox, Diller then said "that a union would something to the effect that a union would never survive in that Hospital, and that we were fools and troublemakers for trying to bring one in." In this conversation Diller asked Fox for the names of the committee members which Fox freely gave him because. as Fox stated, "the committee was never an underground movement." Diller wrote the names down as they were given to him by Fox. Later. two members of the committee Theresa Siminski and Richard Hopkins asked Fox why he had given their names to Diller because they had been called into Diller's office and questioned. Later in the day on June 19 after Fox had talked to Diller, he (Fox) spoke to Steadman in his office. This con- versation with Steadman appears to have been initiated by Fox out of his concern that if a union was started in the hospital that Diller was sufficiently wealthy to just shut down the hospital for several months and then reopen it with all new employees. During this conversation in which Fox expressed some of his fears to Steadman, according to Fox, Steadman said he "felt sorry for me because I was under a lot of pressure and that I had to watch every move I made because Mr. Diller was watching me." Fox testified that he attended the union organizational meeting on June 19 at the Ramada Inn where he advised the employees, that if they wanted to avoid having their benefits suddenly changed, that it might be desirable to have a union con- tract. A couple of weeks after the June 19 meeting, Fox testified that he spoke to Di!ler again and told him "that my involvement with union activities was over." Diller re- sponded, "that's good, because he's still watching me." James Cooke, a currently employed anesthesia technician in the surgery department, testified that he was active in handing out union brochures and about 125 union authori- zation cards on behalf of Hospital and Service Employees, Local 399. Cooke testified that during the first week of July, 964 .OS ANG(FIS NEW IHOSPITAL. while on his break period, he vw as in the employees lounge reading the union brochures to employees Agnes Mademna, Betty Green, and Barbara ()berg. when he was told h his supervisor. Ora Randall, that he was not supposed to have the union literature in the lounge. According to Cooke. Randall stated that that was not really a breakroom and that he (Cooke) was not on a scheduled break. When Cooke continued reading the literature and discussing salaries and benefits with the other employees. Randall returned to the area and asked that he report to her office. Randall advised Cooke that there was no such thing as a scheduled break, but according to Cooke, who had worked at the hospital obr a year and a half, he had customarily taken his break at approximately that hour of the day ever since being em- ployed. Randall repeated to Cooke that he was not sup- posed to have literature in the lounge area and that he could be replaLed by having the literature there, and that he was not on a scheduled break. Ora Randall. the operating room supervisor, acknowl- edged that she had talked to Cooke concerning some litera- ture that he was passing out to other employees and had asked him to report to her in her office. Randall denied threatening him with discharge, but contended that she had discussed his work attitude and advised him that he must give greater priority to the safety of the patients. Addition- ally, Respondent's counsel elicited testimony from Randall tending to show that the "lounge area" where Cooke was involved in his discussion of the Union with other employ- ees was not a lounge area hut, instead, was a part of the operating room. Randall acknowledged, however. that there is a sofa and two chairs located in the room: that doctors, nurses, and technicians used the room as a place for resting; that some employees eat their lunches and have coffee or soft drinks there; and that it is a place where normal conversation might frequently take place (see Resp. Exh. 21). Jacqueline Myles. who was employed by Respondent as a secretary in the engineering department from April 1977 until October 20. 1978. testified that she attended the union meeting at the Ramada Inn on June 19, where she was given a union authorization card which she signed. Myles testified that on the following day, between 9 and 10 a.m.. Diller had asked her how the meeting was last night and then asked her "if anyone from my department had at- tended and I gave him the names." Myles also testified that she had requested a transfer to the X-ray department dur- ing August or early September. Her transfer was accom- plished on September 23. However. a few days later she was advised by Ron David, supervisor of the radiology depart- ment, that Zafrani had requested that she be returned to engineering or that it would be necessary to terminate her. According to David. he said that the secretary hired to take Myles' place in the engineering department had left and it would be necessary for Myles to return to engineering. Ac- cording to Myles, she went immediately to Zafrani's office where she reported to Zafrani why she did not want to work in the engineering department. Zafrani told her. "that Mr. Diller had been made aware of that transfer to X-ray, and he was upset and told Mr. Zafrani they were going to be laying off because of a low census." (Low census refers to a low patient count.) During this conversation, according to My les. Zafrani asked her. "hov, do ou feel about the Union" Theresa Siminski. secretary to Sol G(oldner, assistant ad- ministrator in charge of fiscal affairs. testified that on June 19 Diller questioned her about the invitation to the meeting at the Ramada Inn and asked if she knew ansthing about it. or what other employees were going. I)iller also asked her to let him know if she heard anything. On the following dav Diller again questioned Siminski about her attendance at the union meeting and asked if she had signed a union card. Theresa Siminski testified that prior to the time of the meet- ing on June 19 her boss. Goldner, questioned her concern- ing the meeting and asked her as a personal favor not to go Later Goldner suggested that she might go and attend the meeting and then report back what had happened. Simninski also testified that she was asked by Cy Zafrani. Janet Ford, Margaret Stratton, and .orin French at various times dur- ing the day on June 19 to cease her interest and activit on behalf of the Unitn. Goldner acknowledged having had conversaitions with his secretary Theresa Siminski. on June 19, but denied that he had instructed her not to attend the meeting or that he had requested her to go and report back to management. Margaret Stratton denied having told Siminski to cease or curtail her union activities. Neither Diller. Zafrani. Ford. or Lorin French were called by Respondent to testify. Ruben Ibarra, who had formerly worked in surgery and X-ray, but at the time with which we are here concerned was employed as a cook in the kitchen, testified that on June 19 at approximately 4:30 he left the hospital bh way of the main entrance to attend the union meeting at the Ramada Inn. He testified that as he was walking across the street he saw Diller standing by his car, which was directl in front of the hospital. parked in an area sometimes used for emergencies, and that there were two or three other people in his car. He said he passed within 4 or 5 feet of Diller. Both Kevin Siminski and Theresa Siminski testified that they had seen Sol Goldner and Margaret Stratton with some other people seated around a table in the bar at the Ramada Inn on June 19 located only about 10 feet from a doorway that looked out directly onto the lobby. Neither Goldner nor Stratton denied that they were at the Ramada Inn but indicated that this was a normal and usual thing to do following the dav's work. C. Allegatlions Regarding Changes in EniploL'ee Renefits Respondent does not deny. and there is some written evi- dence in the record clearly proving. that there were some changes made in the employee benefit plans after June . It was the May 30 memorandum to all employees advising that the employees would no longer be paid for the first day of sick-leave absence that first initiated the employee unrest (see Resp. Exh. 12). A reading of the sick-leave policy as set forth in the new employees' handbook that was distributed in mid-July clearly reflects a change from the policy an- nounced in the May 30 memo to all employees and also reflects a change in the cash reimbursement policy for ex- cessive in-the-hank sick leave accrued time. (Compare 96S DE('ISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD pages 24 and 25 of the new employee policy---G.C. Exh. 3 with the policy as set fbrth in the old employee hand- book at pages 17 and 18 G.('. Exh. 2.) Kevin Siminski also testified that h- had made an inquiry at the personnel office of some unidentified person regarding his "cashable" excessive accrued sick leave time and was advised that that policy was no longer in effect. Kevin Siminski also testi- fied rather vaguely and with considerable uncertainty that after the April insurance change (see G.C. Exh. 4). he was not sure if the $200 deductible applied to Blue Cross or Phoenix Mutual and that he had also heard rumors that Respondent was paying for the employees' deductible. Re- spondent does not seriously deny that some changes in em- ployee benefits took place during the first 6 months of 1978, but presented several pieces of written evidence indicating that these changes were the result of hospital committee action specifically set up in the fall of 1977 to accomplish the task of revising their employee policies (see Resp. Exh. 3. 4. and 5). Analysis and Conclusions I am not convinced that the remarks of the supervisors Cam, Stratton, or Siolek did in fact interfere with, restrain. or coerce employee Fox in the exercise of any rights guar- anteed him by Section 7 of the Act. I am convinced, not only from the testimony of Fox, but also from the testi- mony of Cam and Stratton. that Fox was in no danger from them for his activities in circulating the petition to restore the I day of sick leave. Their remarks were intended to warn him that, in the event Diller found him engaged in activities other than his own work, his job might then be in jeopardy. Cam actually gave Fox permission to circulate the petition during his "off-work time," and Stratton ex- pressed her sympathy and interest in what the petition was seeking to accomplish. After talking to each of the supervi- sors and asking them to sign the petition, Fox continued in his activity. Obviously their comments-regardless of their precise choice of words-were not in any manner intimidat- ing to Fox and did not interfere with his activity. I find the remarks attributed to Cam, Stratton. and Siolek to have been nothing more than friendly warnings to the effect that, while they might be in sympathy and approve of what Fox was doing, they were each warning him that some of the higher level management people might disapprove of his "time away from the job." However, Jeffery Steadman was vague in his testimony and obviously had great difficulty in recalling, with any degree of accuracy, the meetings and conversations with Fox during the first part of June. Steadman's statement to Fox that "Diller would never stand for a union" would certainly interfere with and restrain Fox's activities on be- half of a union and thus violate his Section 7 rights. Also, Diller's comment to Fox that he was "working too hard in the matter" on the occasion when Fox was passing out pamphlets regarding the union meeting would certainly tend to interfere with and restrain Fox in his union activi- ties. When Fox talked to Diller on June 19 and Diller told him "that a union would-something to the effect that a union would never survive in that hospital and that we were fools and troublemakers for trying to bring one in" it was a derogatory and repressive remark intended to interfere with, restrain, and coerce an employee in the exercise of his Section 7 rights. On June 19 the warning given to Fox by Steadman in which Steadman stated "he felt sorry for me IFox] because I was under a lot of pressure and that I had to watch every move I made because Mr. Diller was watch- ing me" would likewise interfere with, restrain, and coerce an employee in the exercise of his Section 7 rights. As al- ready indicated in reaching these results. I have credited Fox's testimony over that of Steadman because Steadman appeared to be very vague and uncertain as to the exact time, place, or content of the conversations between he and Fox. Although obviously a critical witness with several alle- gations and considerable testimony placing blame at Dil- ler's feet, he was not called to testify, nor was there any explanation for his absence. Under these circumstances, it is a fair inference that had he been called by Respondent, his testimony would not have been favorable to Respon- dent's cause. Colorflo Decorator Products, Inc., 228 NLRB 408 (1977): International Union, United Automobile, Aero- space and Agricultural Implement Workers of' America (UA W), Grodine Co. of America] v. N.L. RB., 459 F.2d 1329, 1335 38 (D.C. Cir. 1972). I shall find the derogatory and repressive antunion comments as made by Steadman and Diller. indicated hereinabove, to be violative of Section 8(a)( I1) of the Act. The questioning of Jacqueline Myles by Diller the day after the June 19 meeting in which he asked her if she had attended the meeting and asked her for the names of those employees in her department who attended the meeting stand in the record undenied. Zafrani, the assistant hospital administrator, was not called to testify and Myles testified that she was asked by him how she felt about the Union. Because Zafrani was not called to testify and there was no explanation as to his absence, it is also reasonable to infer that his testimony would not have been favorable to Re- spondent. (See the Colorflo and U,4 W cases cited immedi- ately heretofore.)' Although there is no basis upon which to discredit the testimony of Ruben Ibarra, I find it wholly inadequate to prove an allegation of surveillance on the part of the hospi- tal. Ibarra testified that he saw Diller standing beside his car, in which there were two or three other people, located directly in front of the hospital as he was on his way to the union meeting at the Ramada Inn. Although it was not Diller's usual parking place, he certainly had a perfect right to be waiting beside his automobile in front of the hospital, and I find nothing either sinister or antiunion in his pres- ence there. The same is true regarding Goldner and Strat- ton being in the Ramada Inn bar on June 19. They fre- quently went there and had a perfect right to do so. I shall recommend dismissal of any allegations of surveillance. Although Ora Randall's testimony sought to establish the "lounge" area as part and parcel of the operating room- and thus not a permissible place to engage in union conver- ' The testimony of Myles may have been solicited to show some overtones of antiunionism causing her transfer as secretary in the engineering depart- ment to a secretarial position in the X-ray department to be canceled, how- ever. this was not alleged as an unfair labor practice. Based on Myles' own testimony. I am convinced that she was returned to the engineering depart- ment only because her replacement in engineering was either unsatisfactory, or had quit, and that she was needed in engineering. 966 LOS ANGELES NEW HOSPITAL sations the evidence overwhelmingly refutes her testi- mony. One does not regularly eat lunch, drink cokes and coffee, and engage in social conversation in an operating room. That these things were done in the "lounge" area where James Cooke was "selling" the Union's cause is un- denied. It may very well be that this particular "lounge" area is not well suited for a lounge area because of its prox- imity to the operating room. Nevertheless, it has been so used by the employees for at least the past year. I credit James Cooke's testimony and herewith find that Ora Ran- dall did prohibit Cooke from discussing unionism on his breaktime and did threaten that he "could be replaced for having [union] literature there .... " Goldner testified that as assistant administrator in charge of fiscal affairs he is deeply involved in such matters as budgeting, accounting, payroll, employee evaluations and raises, and data processing, plus some line responsibility for admitting and purchasing. He reports directly to the chair- man of the board and attends weekly upper management administrative meetings. He served as Respondent's repre- sentative in the negotiations concerning the hospital's group insurance plans. Theresa Siminski served as Goldner's per- sonal and confidential secretary; she typed and filed all of Goldner's correspondence, including all personnel-related documents and proposed employee relations memoranda or bulletins; she opened and received all of Goldner's mail and frequently determined which mail need not come to his at- tention; she had access to Goldner's files and to his office at all times, including Goldner's notes taken at the manage- ment meetings. Based on the record before me. including the testimony of Theresa Siminski, I find that she was at all times material hereto the confidential secretary to Mr. Sol Goldner. The Board has long held as a matter of policy rather than statutory directive-that employees who "assist and act in a confidential capacity to persons who formulate. determine, and effectuate management policies in the field of labor relations" are properly excluded from a bargaining unit because of their status of "confidential employees." The B. F. Goodrich Company, 115 NLRB 722, 724 (1956); Ford Motor Company, 66 NLRB 1317, 1322 (1946). The root of this exclusionary policy is the Board's recognition that "management should not be required to handle labor relations matters through employees who are represented by the union with which the [employer] is required to deal and who, in the performance of their duties, may obtain advance information of the Company's position with regard to contract negotiations, the disposition of grievances, or other labor relations matters." The Hoover Companv, 55 NLRB 1321, 1323 (1944). However, the Board restricts only those employees whose involvement in their employer's la- bor relations policies is regular and sbustantial. In this in- stance I find Theresa Siminski's duties concerning the hos- pital's employee relations policies regular and substantial and feel that she should be treated as an exluded confiden- tial employee. (For examples of the types of employee in- formation with which she was regularly concerned, see Resp. Exhs. 14 through 20.)' It seems perfectly clear that, if s See West Chemical Products, Inc.. 221 NLRB 250 (1975): Siemens Corpo- raion., 224 NLRB 1579 (1976). we were here concerned with a determination as to whether or not Theresa Siminski should be included within an ap- propriate bargaining unit, the answer would be no. And the General Counsel in this case argues rather persuasively that it is the Board's position that: . .denying to such employees the right to be repre- sented in the same unit with other employees. the Board has never held . .. that they were excluded en- tirely from the protection of the Act. On the contrary. .. the Board earlier stated that the Act does not with- hold from confidential employees "as a class' the right to engage in concerted activities. The quote was taken from Wheeling Electric Company. 182 NLRB 218, 220 (1970), which. however. was denied en- forcement by the Fourth Circuit in 444 F.2d 783 (1971). In reversing the Board in the Wheeling case, the court stated. "On the basis of clear legislative intent we hold that 'super- visors' within the context of the statute included confiden- tial secretaries so as to leave their concerted activity for the benefit of rank-and-file employees unprotected by the Act." The court went on to say, "There is admittedly nothing in the amended Act which explicitly indicates that confiden- tial employees are to he excluded from its coverage. But there is a Congressional expressed reason for that omission. plus a clear expression of a legislative intent to exclude them from the Act. That is enough." Also see Peerless of America. Incorporated. 198 NLRB 982. 987 (1972), enforced in relevant part. 484 F.2d 1108. 1112 (7th Cir. 1973). In a case decided by the United States Supreme Court after the Wheeling Electric Compatn' case* in a footnote at page 284. the Court said. "The discussion of 'confidential employees' in both the House and Conference Committee reports, however, unmistakably refers to that term as de- fined in the House bill, which was not limited just to those in 'labor relations.' Thus. although Congress may have mis- construed recent Board practice, it clearly thought that the Act did not cover 'confidential employees' even under a broad definition of that term." [Emphasis supplied.] Thus. it seems clear that. even though the Bell Aerospace case was dealing with the question as to whether or not "managerial emplo- ees" were covered by the Act, nevertheless the Court has definitively answered the question regarding confidential employees. I find, therefore, that any and all of the con\er- sations between Theresa Siminski and members of manage- ment were not violative of the Act, because they occurred between employees who are excluded from the Act. The rationale for reaching such a decision was more fully set forth by the court in the Wheeling Electric case, supra, when it said: A confidential secretary who plights her troth with the union differs in form, but not in substance, from one who holds a union card. Since she cannot formally join the unit, there is nothing incongruous in holding that she cannot "plight her troth" with the unit. Indeed, it seems more consistent to say that if she cannot act in concert by participating in the unit. the she cannot act I N.L.R.B. v. Bell Aerospace Compranv, Division of Teron, Inc. 416 : S. 267 (1974). 967 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL L.ABOR RELATIONS BOARD in concert on an informal basis, or more accurately, that if she does so, it will be without the protection of the Act. Management is entitled to security of its con- fidential information and may insist upon the loyalty of those employees who have access to it. For this rea- son, confidential employees cannot be granted the pro- tection afforded ordinary employees under the Act. 1444 F.2d at 788.1 There is positive proof in the record (Resp. Exh. 3) that Mr. Diller named a committee on November 3, 1977. to review, study, and prepare a complete new employee hand- book reflecting updated employee fringe benefits. (Also see Resp. Exhs. 4 and 5). As various aspects of the updated benefits program were approved, bulletins were issued re- flecting the changes and employees were informed (see Resp. Exhs. 6. 7, 8, 9. 10, 11 and G.C. Exh. 4). All of these changes took place during the months between Novem- ber-the date of the committee appointment to revise the employee benefits and June 2, the date the employees first acted in concert to protest a change in the sick leave policy. It is true the sick leave policy, as set forth in the new em- ployees' handbook, differed from that which was an- nounced on May 30. However, I find this change to have been the result of the employees' petition to management, expressing their dissatisfaction with the loss of the first day's sick leave and not because of any illegal intent or motivation on the part of the Respondent to frustrate, inter- fere with or discriminate against the employees because of their concerted and/or union activity. Kevin Siminski's tes- timony was much too indefinite and vague to be convincing that the health insurance policies and benefits as set forth in the new employees' handbook differed from the practices that had been instituted prior to June I. Based on the credited testimony of Sol Goldner, as sup- ported by the written evidence, I herewith find that the changes that were instituted by Respondent, as reflected by their new employees' handbook issued on or about the mid- die of July, were all undertaken prior to the advent of any union activity and were made without illegal discriminatory motivation. The General Counsel has failed to prove a dis- criminatory motive.' CON('I.USIONS OF L.AW I. Respondent Los Angeles New Hospital, is an em- ployer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6) and (7) of the Act. 2. The Hospital and Service Employees Union. Local 399, SEIU, AFL-CIO. is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. 3. Respondent, through the illegal activities of its Super- visors Diller, Steadman, Randall, and Zafrani, has interro- gated and threatened employees in a manner that has inter- fered with, restrained, and coerced said employees in the exercise of their rights as guaranteed by Section 7 of the Act, and thereby violated Section 8(a)(l) of the Act. 4. Respondent has not, as alleged in the complaint, sur- veilled or created the impression of surveillance of its em- Industrial Brownhoist Division, American Hoist & Derrick Cornpaon, 214 NLRB 1016 (1974). ployees, nor has it acted with an illegal discriminatory mo- tive in instituting a number of changes in the employees' fringe benefits. \. IE EFI:F( IS ()F 1'11t UNFAIR I.ABO)R PRA(CII(E ULPON ( ()MMER(' The activities of Respondent as set forth in section IV, above. occurring in connection with its business operations as set forth in section I, above. have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States. and tend to lead to labor disputes bur- dening and obstructing commerce and the free flow of com- merce. VI. IH Ri)Y Having found that Respondent has committed certain unfair labor practices. I shall recommend that it be ordered to cease and desist therefrom, and from like and related unfair labor practices, and that it take the affirmative action provided for in the recommended Order below, which I find necessary to eflfectuate the policies of the Act. Upon the foregoing findings of fact. conclusions of law, and the entire record, and pursuant to Section IO(c) of the Act. I herebh issue the following recommended: ORD[)RK The Respondent. Los Angeles New Hospital, Ios Ange- les. California. its officers, agents. successors, and assigns. shall: 1. ('ease and desist from: (a) Questioning. threatening or in any manner making derogatory and disparaging remarks regarding unions and/ or the employees' union activities which in any manner in- terferes with, restrains, or coerces the employees in their lawful right to engage in concerted, protected. and/or union activity. (b) Prohibiting employees from discussing. reading union literature, or otherwise engaging in union, and/or protected, concerted activity during their nonworking time in nonpatient care areas. (c) In any like or related manner interfering with, re- straining, or coercing its employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed them in Section 7 of the Act. 2. Fake the following affirmative action which is deemed necessary in order to effectuate the policies of the Act: (a) Post at its place of business in Los Angeles. Califor- nia, copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix."' In the event ino exceptions are filed as provided bh Sec 102.46 f the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the findings, conclusions, and recommended Order herein shall, as provided in Sec. 102.48 of the Rules and Regulations. be adopted bh the Board and become its findings, conclusions, and Order, and all objections thereto shall be deemed waived or all purposes. ' In the event that this Order is enflirced h a Judgnent of a nited States Court of' Appeals, the words in tIhe notice reading "Posled B Order of the National abor Relations Board" shall read "Posted Pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of A,ppeals Enforcing an Order of he National I.abor Relations Board." 968 I.OS AN(;I-.E-S NEW HOSPITAL Copies of' said notice on forms provided h the Regional [)irector for Region 31, after being dub signed h Respon- dents' representative shall he posted hb it imnmediatelN upon receipt thereof and hbe maintained bh it tor 60 consecutis e days thereafter, in conspicuous places. including all places where notices to emploeces are customariN posted. Reason- ahble steps shall be taken hb Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered defaced or covered b an' other smateial. (b} Notif' the Regional D)irector fr Reion 31. in rit- ing-. kithinl 20 day, froll the date of this Order. what steps Respondent has taken to comipl? herewith. 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