Ex Parte Khanna et alDownload PDFPatent Trials and Appeals BoardAug 21, 201812776937 - (D) (P.T.A.B. Aug. 21, 2018) Copy Citation UNITED STA TES p A TENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE APPLICATION NO. FILING DATE FIRST NAMED INVENTOR 12/776,937 05/10/2010 Shikha Khanna 49845 7590 08/23/2018 SCHWEGMAN LUNDBERG & WOESSNER/EBAY P.O. BOX 2938 MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55402 UNITED ST A TES OF AMERICA UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE United States Patent and Trademark Office Address: COMMISSIONER FOR PATENTS P.O. Box 1450 Alexandria, Virginia 22313-1450 www .uspto.gov ATTORNEY DOCKET NO. CONFIRMATION NO. 2043.779US 1 3359 EXAMINER DUNHAM, JASON B ART UNIT PAPER NUMBER 3684 NOTIFICATION DATE DELIVERY MODE 08/23/2018 ELECTRONIC Please find below and/or attached an Office communication concerning this application or proceeding. The time period for reply, if any, is set in the attached communication. Notice of the Office communication was sent electronically on above-indicated "Notification Date" to the following e-mail address(es): USPTO@SLWIP.COM SLW@blackhillsip.com PTOL-90A (Rev. 04/07) UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD Ex parte SHIKHA KHANNA and NICOLE LEE BIRDSALL Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 1 Technology Center 3600 Before HUBERT C. LORIN, NINA L. MEDLOCK, and BRADLEY B. BAY AT, Administrative Patent Judges. LORIN, Administrative Patent Judge. DECISION ON APPEAL STATEMENT OF THE CASE Shikha Khanna and Nicole Lee Birdsall (Appellants) seek our review under 35 U.S.C. § 134(a) of the Final Rejection of claims 1-20. We have jurisdiction under 35 U.S.C. § 6(b ). SUMMARY OF DECISION We AFFIRM. 1 The Appellants identify eBay Inc., as the real party in interest. Appeal Br. 2. Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 THE INVENTION Claim 10, reproduced below, is illustrative of the subject matter on appeal. 10. A method comprising: storing a posting for an item in an online publication system, the posting submitted by a first user; retrieving a stored inquiry comprising a predetermined question about the posting, the stored inquiry added to the posting when the posting was submitted by the first user; and selectively retrieving, using one or more processors and in response to an inquiry received from a second user, a response from a response source, the retrieved response comprising an answer to the stored inquiry, the answer based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user. THE REJECTIONS 2 The following rejection is before us for review: Claims 1-20 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. § 101 as being directed to judicially-excepted subject matter. Claims 4, 5, 13, and 14 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph, as being indefinite for failing to particularly point out and distinctly claim the subject matter which the applicants regard as the invention. Claims 1-20 are rejected under 35 U.S.C. § I02(b) as being anticipated by Hamilton, II et al. (US 2009/0112683 Al, pub. Apr. 30, 2009) ("Hamilton"). 2 The Examiner withdrew the rejection of claims 8 and 17 under 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph (Advisory Action mailed July 7, 2015). 2 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 ISSUE Did the Examiner err in rejecting claims 1-20 under 35 U.S.C. § 101 as being directed to judicially-excepted subject matter? Did the Examiner err in rejecting claims 4, 5, 13, and 14 under 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph, as being indefinite for failing to particularly point out and distinctly claim the subject matter which the applicants regard as the invention? Did the Examiner err in rejecting claims 1-20 under 35 U.S.C. § 102(b) as being anticipated by Hamilton? ANALYSIS The rejection of claims 1-20 under 35 US.C. § 101 as being directed to judicially-excepted subject matter. Independent claims 1, 10, and 19 The Appellants argue independent claims 1, 10, and 19 together. See Appeal Br. 8-21. We select claim 10 as representative of the independent claims. Alice Corp. Proprietary Ltd. v. CLS Bank International, 134 S. Ct. 234 7 (2014 ), identifies a two-step framework for determining whether claimed subject matter is judicially excepted from patent-eligibility under 35 U.S.C. § 101. According to Alice step one, "[ w ]e must first determine whether the claims at issue are directed to a patent-ineligible concept," such as an abstract idea. Alice, 134 S. Ct. at 2355. In that regard, the Examiner determined that the claims are directed to "posting and retrieving data online which is considered to be an abstract idea." Final Act. 5. The Examiner also determined that "[t]he claims 3 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 are directed specifically to the processing and organization of information." Ans. 6 (citing the USPTO's "July 2015 Update[:] Subject Matter Eligibility"). 3 According to the Examiner, the claims are directed to concepts similar to abstract ideas identified in, inter alia, SmartGene, Inc. v. Advanced Biological Labs., SA, 555 F. App'x 950 (Fed. Cir. 2014), Dealertrack, Inc. v. Huber, 674 F.3d 1315 (Fed. Cir. 2012), and Ultramercial, Inc. v. Hulu, LLC, 772 F.3d 709 (Fed. Cir. 2014). Ans. 8-9. In particular, the Examiner determined that the claims relate to "receiving, comparing and retrieving data, which can be performed mentally" or "by a human using a pen and paper" and are therefore similar to the claims held ineligible in CyberSource Corp. v. Retail Decisions, Inc., 654 F.3d 1366 (Fed. Cir. 2011) and Cyberfone Sys., LLC v. CNN Interactive Grp., Inc., 558 F. App'x 988 (Fed. Cir. 2014) (non-precedential). Id. at 6. The Appellants argue that "the present claims are not similar to those in the cases cited by the Examiner, the case citations do not provide support for the Examiner's conclusion that the claims at issue are directed to an abstract idea." Appeal Br. 10. According to the Appellants, "claim 10 provides specific details regarding the retrieval of a response, including the trigger for the retrieving, the source of the response, and the composition of the response" and "[ t ]hese specific details preclude the possibility that a generic, unconfigured processor (like the conventionally-operating telephone of Cyberfone) performs the steps of the method claim." Id. The Appellants also argue that the claims are not directed to a fundamental economic 3 Available at: https://www.uspto.gov/patent/laws-and- regulations/examination-policy/subject-matter-eligibility. 4 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 practice (id. at 13-14), or to certain methods of organizing human activity (id. at 14). In that regard, the Appellants contend that "the claims at issue are directed to a specific set of operations for retrieving a response to an inquiry" (id. at 13) and that "[t]he claims here are directed to particular methods of exchanging data between computer systems in a manner that is new, useful, and non-obvious" (id. at 14). See also Reply Br. 8-10, 15-16. We are not persuaded of error in the Examiner's rejection. The "directed to" inquiry in the claims applies a stage-one filter to the claims, considered in light of the Specification, based on whether "their character as a whole is directed to excluded subject matter." Internet Patents Corp. v. Active Network, Inc., 790 F.3d 1343, 1346 (Fed. Cir. 2015); see also Genetic Techs. Ltd. v. Merial L.L.C., 818 F.3d 1369, 1376 (Fed. Cir. 2016); Enfish, LLC v. Microsoft Corp., 822 F.3d 1327, 1335 (Fed. Cir. 2016) (Inquiring into "'the focus of the claimed advance over the prior art."'). Claim 10 recites "[a] method comprising:" ( 1) storing first information, (2) retrieving second information, and (3) retrieving third information. Claim 10 specifies the content of the first, second, and third information, namely "a posting for an item," "a predetermined question about the posting," and "an answer to the [predetermined question], the answer based on at least a portion of the posting," respectively. Claim 10 also specifies that the source of the first information (i.e., the posting) is "a first user" and that the source of the third information (i.e., the answer) is "a response source," and that the third information is retrieved in response to "an inquiry received from a second user." The court in Enfzsh put the question as being "whether the focus of the claims is on [a] specific asserted improvement in computer capabilities ... 5 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 or, instead, on a process that qualifies as an 'abstract idea' for which computers are invoked merely as a tool." Enfish, 822 F.3d at 1335-1336. The court found that the "plain focus of the claims" was on "an improvement to computer functionality itself, not on economic or other tasks for which a computer is used in its ordinary capacity." Id. at 1336. "In determining the eligibility of respondents' claimed process for patent protection under§ 101, their claims must be considered as a whole." Diamond v. Diehr, 450 U.S. 175, 188 (1981). The question is whether the claims as a whole "focus on a specific means or method that improves the relevant technology" or are "directed to a result or effect that itself is the abstract idea and merely invoke generic processes and machinery." McRO, Inc. v. Bandai Namco Games Am. Inc., 837 F.3d 1299, 1314 (Fed. Cir. 2016). In this case, we find that claim 10, as a whole, is focused on storing and retrieving information, namely answers to predetermined questions. We do not see that claim 10 is focused on an improvement to any technology such as a computer or an improved process for storing or retrieving data in a computer. Here, as in CyberSource Corp. v. Retail Decisions, Inc., 654 F.3d 1366, 1372 (Fed. Cir. 2011), all of claim lO's "method steps can be performed in the human mind, or by a human using a pen and paper." As in CyberSource, the method of claim 10 "can be performed by a human who simply reads records ... from a preexisting database." Id. Storing and retrieving information, including answers to questions, is akin to purely mental processes. Return Mail, Inc. v. United States Postal Serv., 868 F.3d 1350, 1368 (Fed. Cir. 2017) ("Encoding and decoding mail recipient information-including whether the sender wants a corrected address-are processes that can, and have been, performed in the human mind."). 6 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 "The 'abstract idea' step of the inquiry calls upon us to look at the 'focus of the claimed advance over the prior art' to determine if the claim's 'character as a whole' is directed to excluded subject matter." Affinity Labs of Texas, LLC v. DIRECTV, LLC, 838 F.3d 1253, 1257 (Fed. Cir. 2016) (citing Elec. Power Grp., LLC v. Alstom S.A., 830 F.3d 1350, 1353 (Fed. Cir. 2016)); see also Enfish, 822 F.3d at 1335, quoted in Apple, Inc. v. Ameranth, Inc., 842 F.3d 1229, 1241 (Fed. Cir. 2016). In that regard, the Background section of the Specification discusses the problem, which is that "users may have questions about [an online postings]" (Spec. para. 2). "Examples of postings include items for sale, auctions, classifieds, blog posts, service offerings, show times, invitations to events, and the like." Id. More specifically, the problem is that "[t]he poster [] may not be able to respond to the question due to the volume of questions received or because the question may relate to the online publication system rather than the poster or the posting itself." Id. para. 21. According to the Specification, the inventors recognized that a question may be "answerable using information included in the posting." Id. The Specification discloses that the inventors solved the problem by providing "an inquiry system 100 for answering inquiries about a posting in an online publication system." Id. para. 23. As an example, the Specification describes that the posting may be an item for sale, and the inquiry system is able "to answer a stored inquiry such as 'What is the condition of the item?"' Id. para. 30. In light of the Specification's description of the problem and solution, the advance over the prior art by the claimed invention is providing answers to predetermined questions related to an online posting. 7 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 Given the focus of claim 10 as a whole, in light of the Specification, is on data gathering activities4 in support of providing answers to predetermined questions related to an online posting, the claims are properly characterized as being "directed to" storing and retrieving answers to predetermined questions. Storing and retrieving answers to predetermined questions is an abstract idea. The human mind naturally stores and retrieves answers to questions. It is also similar to the practice of automated telephone systems that provide pre-recorded information long used by movie theaters (e.g., "for show times, press '1 ') and banks (e.g., "for account balance, press '2 "'). Cf Content Extraction & Transmission LLC v. Wells Fargo Bank, Nat. Ass 'n, 776 F.3d 1343, 1347 (Fed. Cir. 2014), cert. denied, 136 S. Ct. 119 (2015) (holding that claims reciting "1) collecting data, 2) recognizing certain data within the collected data set, and 3) storing that recognized data in a memory" were drawn to an abstract idea); Digitech Image Techs., LLC v. Elecs.for Imaging, Inc., 758 F.3d 1344, 1351 (Fed. Cir. 2014) ("Without additional limitations, a process that employs mathematical algorithms to manipulate existing information to generate additional information is not patent eligible."); W. View Research, LLC v. Audi AG, 685 F. App'x 923, 926 (Fed. Cir. 2017) (non-precedential) ("These claims do not go beyond receiving or collecting data queries, analyzing the data query, retrieving and processing the information constituting a response 4 Cf Elec. Power Grp., 830 F.3d at 1353 (When "[t]he focus of the asserted claims" is "on collecting information, analyzing it, and displaying certain results of the collection and analysis," the claims are directed to an abstract idea). 8 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 to the initial data query, and generating a visual or audio response to the initial data query."). The Appellants argue that the claims do not seek to tie up a judicial exception such that others cannot practice it. Appeal Br. 14--15; see also Reply Br. 12-17. It is true that the Supreme Court has characterized pre-emption as a driving concern for patent eligibility. See Alice, 134 S. Ct. at 2354. But characterizing pre-emption as a driving concern for patent eligibility is not the same as characterizing pre-emption as the sole test for patent eligibility. "The Supreme Court has made clear that the principle of preemption is the basis for the judicial exceptions to patentability" and "[ fJor this reason, questions on preemption are inherent in and resolved by the § 101 analysis." Ariosa Diagnostics, Inc. v. Sequenom, Inc., 788 F.3d 1371, 1379 (Fed. Cir. 2015) (citing Alice, 134 S. Ct. at 2354). However, "[w]hile preemption may signal patent ineligible subject matter, the absence of complete preemption does not demonstrate patent eligibility." Id. at 1379. Cf OIP Techs., Inc. v. Amazon.com, Inc., 788 F.3d 1359, 1362---63 (Fed. Cir. 2015) ("[T]hat the claims do not preempt all price optimization or may be limited to price optimization in the e-commerce setting do not make them any less abstract."). "What matters is whether a claim threatens to subsume the full scope of a fundamental concept, and when those concerns arise, we must look for meaningful limitations that prevent the claim as a whole from covering the concept's every practical application." CLS Bank Int 'l v. Alice Corp. Pty. Ltd., 717 F.3d 1269, 1281 (Fed. Cir. 2013) (Lourie, J., concurring). Here, we find the claimed subject matter covers patent- ineligible subject matter. Accordingly, the pre-emption concern is 9 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 necessarily addressed. "Where a patent's claims are deemed only to disclose patent ineligible subject matter under the Mayo framework, [] preemption concerns are fully addressed and made moot." Ariosa Diagnostics, 788 F.3d at 1379. We also are not persuaded by Appellants' argument that the present claims should have been analyzed using the streamlined analysis. Appeal Br. 11-12. As set forth in the Office's "2014 Interim Guidance on Patent Subject Matter Eligibility," 79 Fed. Reg. 74618 (Dec. 16, 2014), the streamlined analysis is an optional tool that an examiner may use at his or her discretion. The Guidance, thus, instructs that "[ fJor purposes of efficiency in examination, a streamlined eligibility analysis can be used." See Interim Guidance, 79 Fed. Reg. at 74625 (emphasis added). The Guidance also instructs that "if there is doubt as to whether the applicant is effectively seeking coverage for a judicial exception itself, the full analysis should be conducted to determine whether the claim recites significantly more than the judicial exception." Id. (emphasis added). The Examiner's decision here to perform a full§ 101 analysis was, in our view, a proper exercise of the Examiner's discretion. In view of the above, we see no error in the Examiner's determination that claim 10 is directed to an abstract idea. We reach the same conclusion as to system claim 1 and media claim 19. As in Alice, "[t]he method claims recite the abstract idea implemented on a generic computer; the system claims recite a handful of generic computer components configured to implement the same idea." Alice, 134 S. Ct. at 2360. Step two of the Alice framework is "a search for an 'inventive concept'-i.e., an element or combination of elements that is 'sufficient to 10 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 ensure that the patent in practice amounts to significantly more than a patent upon the [ineligible concept] itself."' Alice, 134 S. Ct. at 2355 (alteration in original) (quoting Mayo Collaborative Servs. v. Prometheus Labs., Inc., 566 U.S. 66, 73 (2012)). In that regard, the Examiner determined that "when considering the elements and combinations of elements, the claims as a whole, do not amount to significantly more than the abstract idea itself." Final Act. 5. According to the Examiner, the claims "merely recite additional elements (e.g. processors) in a broad and generic manner." Ans. 9. And the Examiner determined that the computer-implemented aspects of the claims amount to, inter alia, "[p ]roviding a computer," "[p ]roviding storage for a variety of descriptive materials," "[r]etrieving particular descriptive materials," and "retrieving matching descriptive materials." Id. at 9-10. The Appellants argue that even assuming that "the claims at issue are directed to an abstract idea, the claims at issue are nevertheless directed to patentable subject matter" under step two of Mayo/Alice. Appeal Br. 16 ( emphasis omitted). According to the Appellants, "the operations recited in the claims at issue are at a lower-level of generality than the operations recited in the claims at issue in Bilski and Alice." Id. at 17. But the Appellants merely reproduce claim limitations without explaining how those limitations amount to more than the abstract idea of storing and retrieving answers to predetermined questions. The Appellants next argue that "the functions recited in the claims at issue are not purely conventional functions." Id. According to the Appellants, "[ e ]ven if retrieving a response could be considered a purely conventional function, doing so wherein 'the retrieve[d] response 11 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 compris[es] an answer ... based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user' is not." Id. And the Appellants argue that "taken in combination with previous elements which define 'the stored inquiry,' 'the posting,' and 'the first user,' the element is more specific and the distinction between the scope of the claims and the scope of the alleged abstract idea becomes even clearer." Id. at 18. The Appellants' arguments that the posting, the stored inquiry, and the retrieved response each comprise a certain type of information is unpersuasive of Examiner error because that is reasonably characterized as printed matter (cf In re Distefano, 808 F.3d 845 (Fed. Cir. 2015)) and as such is patentably inconsequential. Furthermore, information collection and analysis, including when limited to particular content, is within the realm of abstract ideas. See, e.g., Elec. Power Grp, 830 F.3d at 1353 ("we have treated collecting information, including when limited to particular content (which does not change its character as information), as within the realm of abstract ideas."); SAP America, Inc. v. Investpic, LLC, -- F.3d ---, 2018 WL 3656048, *6 (Fed. Cir. 2018) ("As many cases make clear, even if a process of collecting and analyzing information is 'limited to particular content' or a particular 'source,' that limitation does not make the collection and analysis other than abstract." (quoting Elec. Power Group, 830 F.3d at 1355 (citing cases)). The mere combination of data sources, however, does not make the claims patent eligible. As we have explained, "merely selecting information, by content or source, for collection, analysis, and [announcement] does nothing significant to differentiate a process from ordinary mental processes, whose implicit exclusion from § 101 undergirds the information-based category of abstract ideas." 12 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 FairWarning IP, LLC v. Iatric Sys., Inc., 839 F.3d 1089, 1097 (Fed. Cir. 2016) (quoting Elec. Power Grp., 830 F.3d at 1355). The Appellants argue that the claims are similar to the claims held eligible in DDR Holdings, LLC v. Hotels.com, L.P., 773 F.3d 1245 (Fed. Cir. 2014). Appeal Br. 18-21; see also Reply Br. 18-20. According to the Appellants, "a computer operating according to the present claims constitutes an improvement to the technology for the computer- implemented provision of customer services" and the claims "constitute an improvement to the technical field of machines that provide customer services." App. Br. 20. And the Appellants contend that the claims "solve a technological problem in conventional industry practice of, for example, the automatic generation and provision of responses to inquiries" which the Appellants characterize as "a problem rooted in computer technology and arising particularly in the realm of provision of network-based services." Id. at 21. In particular, the Appellants contend that the limitation of "selectively retriev[ing] ... a response" qualifies as significantly more under step two of Alice. Id. at 20-21. In DDR Holdings, the Federal Circuit determined that although the patent claims at issue involved conventional computers and the Internet, the claims nevertheless addressed the problem of retaining website visitors who, if adhering to the routine, conventional functioning of the Internet hyperlink protocol, would be transported instantly away from a host's website after "'clicking"' on an advertisement and activating a hyperlink. DDR Holdings, 773 F.3d at 1257. The court determined that those claims were directed to patent-eligible subject matter because they claim a solution "necessarily 13 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 rooted in computer technology in order to overcome a problem specifically arising in the realm of computer networks." Id. No such technological advance is evident in the claimed invention. Unlike the situation in DDR Holdings, the claimed computer components operate precisely in the expected manner of storing data in association with other data, and sending and receiving data via a conventional network. (See Spec para. 59 ("a network 1404 (e.g., the Internet or Wide Area Network (WAN))")). Cf buySAFE, Inc. v. Google, Inc., 765 F.3d 1350, 1355 (Fed. Cir. 2014) ("That a computer receives and sends the information over a network-with no further specification-is not even arguably inventive"); SmartGene, 555 F. App'x at 955 ("The claim does not purport to identify new computer hardware: it assumes the availability of physical components for input, memory, look-up, comparison, and output."). Nothing in the claim, understood in light of the Specification, requires anything more than conventional computer implementation. "The specification fails to provide any technical details for the tangible components, but instead predominately describes the system and methods in purely functional terms." In re TL! Commc'ns LLC Patent Litig., 823 F.3d 607,612 (Fed. Cir. 2016). "[A]fter Alice, there can remain no doubt: recitation of generic computer limitations does not make an otherwise ineligible claim patent-eligible." DDR Holdings, 773 F.3d at 1256 (citation omitted). We also are not persuaded of error by the Appellants' argument that "the unique combination of operations recited in the claims of the present application is not 'conventional,' and the Examiner has not provided evidence to the contrary." Appeal Br. 19. See also Reply Br. 17 ("the functions of each step of the claims at issue are not purely conventional") 14 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 ( emphasis omitted). Evidence may be helpful in certain situations where, for instance, facts are in dispute. But it is not always necessary. The Appellants do not show that the Examiner makes a finding that the claimed combination is well known and conventional for which supporting evidence may arguably be called for. Cf Berkheimer v. HP Inc., 881 F.3d 1360, 1368 (Fed. Cir. 2018) ("When there is no genuine issue of material fact regarding whether the claim element or claimed combination is well-understood, routine, [or] conventional to a skilled artisan in the relevant field, this issue can be decided on summary judgment as a matter of law."). However, the Examiner does take the position that "the computing element [processor] recited in [Appellants'] claims [is] merely generic in nature." Ans. 31-32. The Appellants disagree. However, the Specification belies the Appellants' argument that the claimed subject matter does not merely use generic computers as a tool or that their functioning is improved by the claimed scheme. Regarding the claimed "one or more processors," the Specification discloses that "[ t ]he example computer system 1500 includes a processor 1502 (e.g., a central processing unit (CPU) a graphics processing unit (GPU) or both)." Spec. para. 66. The Specification does not disclose a new processor or any detail regarding processor 1502. We note that system claim 1 nominally defines a system comprising three different computer components: (a) "a posting engine," (b) "an inquiry engine," and (c) "a response engine." Appeal Br. 23 (Claims Appendix). The Specification discloses the claimed computer elements in functional and result-oriented terms. Regarding element (a), "[t]he posting engine 102 stores, or has access to, postings submitted by posters in the online publication system." Spec. para. 24. Regarding element (b), "[t]he inquiry 15 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 engine 104 stores, or has access to, inquiries corresponding to at least a portion of the postings." Id. para. 25. Regarding element (c), "[t]he response engine 106 may access or retrieve a stored response to an inquiry" and "[i]n some embodiments, the response engine 106 may generate a response to an inquiry in response to a selection of a stored inquiry by a user." Id. para. 28. Although the response engine is itself described as comprising various other modules ( e.g., a settings module 202), these are also described in purely functional terms. For example, "[t]he optional settings module 202 is to receive and implement one or more settings from the poster." Id. para. 29. The machine that implements the claimed functionality is described as follows: The machine may be a server computer, a client computer, a personal computer (PC), a tablet PC, a set-top box (STB), a Personal Digital Assistant (PDA), a cellular telephone, a web appliance, a network router, switch or bridge, or any machine capable of executing a set of instructions (sequential or otherwise) that specify actions to be taken by that machine. Id. para. 65 ( emphasis added). Thus, the Specification supports the view that the additional elements are simply conventional computer components that serve as a conduit for the performance of a scheme for storing and retrieving answers to predetermined questions. Cf In re TL! Commc 'ns, 823 F.3d at 612: Put differently, the telephone unit itself is merely a conduit for the abstract idea of classifying an image and storing the image based on its classification. Indeed, the specification notes that it "is known" that "cellular telephones may be utilized for image transmission," id. at col. 1 11. 31-34, and existing telephone systems could transmit pictures, audio, and motion pictures and also had "graphical annotation capability," id. at col. 1 11. 52-59. 16 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 A difficulty here is that claim 10 recites an "online publication system and "one or more processors" that, in light of the Specification, appears to cover generic devices. We do not see in the subject matter as claimed any assertedly inventive technology. Nor does the claim provide details as to any non-conventional software. The claim language provides only a result- oriented solution with insufficient detail for how a computer accomplishes it. Cf Interval Licensing LLC v. AOL, Inc., 896 F.3d. 1335, 2018 WL 3485608, at *6 (Fed. Cir. July 20, 2018): Other software-based claimed inventions, however, have failed to pass section 101 muster, because they did not recite any assertedly inventive technology for improving computers as tools and/or because the elements of the asserted invention were so result-based that they amounted to patenting the patent- ineligible concept itself. See also Credit Acceptance Corp. v. Westlake Services, 859 F.3d 1044, 1057 (Fed. Cir. 2017): Significantly, the claims do not provide details as to any non- conventional software for enhancing the financing process. See Intellectual Ventures I LLC v. Capital One Fin. Corp., 850 F.3d 1332, 1342 (Fed. Cir. 2017) (explaining that "[o]ur law demands more" than claim language that "provides only a result-oriented solution, with insufficient detail for how a computer accomplishes it"); Elec. Power Grp., 830 F.3d at 1354 (explaining that claims are directed to an abstract idea where they do not recite "any particular assertedly inventive technology for performing [ conventional] functions"). The Appellants' arguments challenging the Examiner's determination that independent claims 1, 10, and 19 do not add anything significantly more to transform the abstract idea to which they are directed into an inventive concept are unpersuasive. 17 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 We have considered all of the Appellants' remaining arguments and have found them unpersuasive. Accordingly, we sustain the Examiner's determination that independent claims 1, 10, and 19 are directed to ineligible subject matter under 35 U.S.C. § 101. Cf LendingTree, LLC v. Zillow, Inc., 656 F. App'x 991, 997 (Fed. Cir. 2016) ("We have considered all of Lending Tree's remaining arguments and have found them unpersuasive. Accordingly, because the asserted claims of the patents in suit are directed to an abstract idea and do not present an 'inventive concept,' we hold that they are directed to ineligible subject matter under 35 U.S.C. § 101."). Dependent claims 2-9, 11-18, and 20 The Appellants complain that the Examiner has not separately addressed each of the dependent claims. Appeal Br. 10-11; see also Reply Br. 10-12. Yet, except to reproduce limitations of claims 7 and 8 and to say that "[t]hese additional elements are neither abstract ideas in their own rights nor necessary features in implementing the alleged abstract idea of the independent claims," nothing more is said about why the limitations in said claims render said claims patent-eligible. Appeal Br. 11. From our review of the dependent claims, they appear to describe various information gathering/processing/displaying schemes, which do little to patentably transform the abstract idea. For example, claim 7 calls for "a display engine to provide a user interface depicting the stored inquiry and the retrieved response." Appellants do not direct us to any evidence that the "user interface" of claim 7 provides an improvement to the functioning of the computer itself. Claim 8 calls for selecting the stored inquiry based on particular data. These claims add steps of displaying and selecting certain 18 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 information that do little to transform the information-gathering abstract idea that claim 1 is directed to. Cf Apple, Inc., 842 F.3d at 1244 ("These claims depend from independent claims which were found to be directed to unpatentable subject matter, as discussed above. Merely appending this preexisting practice to those independent claims does not make them patentable. It is an insignificant post-solution activity."). Also, where all claims are directed to the same abstract idea, "addressing each claim of the asserted patents [is] unnecessary." Content Extraction, 776 F.3d at 1348. The rejection is sustained. The rejection of claims 4, 5, 13, and 14 under 35 US. C. § 112, second paragraph, as being indefinite for failing to particularly point out and distinctly claim the subject matter which the inventor regards as the invention. The Examiner's position is that "the claim limitations recite a transaction state of the item and the transaction states include a pre-purchase and/or a post-purchase of the item" and "[i]t is unclear however if these states relate to the pre/post purchase of the item by the first user or second user." Final Act. 6. In the Answer, the Examiner explains: The term transaction is so broad that one would not be reasonably apprised of when a transaction and transaction state on an item begins and when it ends. Does a transaction state of an item comprise browsing the item? Placing the item in a shopping cart? Submitting payment information? Inquiring about inventory levels of the item? These are mere examples as to the breadth of the term "transaction". Ans. 2. 19 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 We will reverse this rejection for the reasons discussed in the Appeal Brief, namely "that the Examiner's rejection is based on the breadth of the claims, not indefiniteness." Appeal Br. 6. The Examiner appears to be concerned about how the invention of claims 4, 5, 13, and 14 operates. That is a concern better raised under the enablement requirement of 35 U.S.C. § 112. The definiteness inquiry focuses on whether those skilled in the art would understand the scope of the claim when the claim is read in light of the rest of the specification. Orthokinetics, Inc. v. Safety Travel Chairs, Inc., 806 F.2d 1565, 1576 (Fed. Cir. 1986). Even if the written description does not enable the claims, the claim language itself may still be definite. In re Hyatt, 708 F.2d 712, 714--15 (Fed. Cir. 1983); In re Miller, 441 F.2d 689,693 (CCPA 1971) ("[B]readth is not to be equated with indefiniteness .... "). Union Pac. Res. Co. v. Chesapeake Energy Corp., 236 F.3d 684, 692 (Fed. Cir. 2001). The rejection is not sustained. The rejection of claims 1-20 under 35 USC§ 102(b) as being anticipated by Hamilton. The Appellants argue that Hamilton does not disclose "'the retrieved response comprising an answer to the stored inquiry, the answer based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user"' as recited in independent claims 1, 10, and 19. Appeal Br. 7-8. According to the Appellants, the argued-over limitation is "completely different than retrieved information based on 'feedback corresponding to the inquiry entered by the 20 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 customer or shopper' as taught by Hamilton." Id. at 7 ( citing paragraph 21 of Hamilton). The Examiner's position is that Hamilton discloses said limitation in paragraph 20. Final Act. 8. According to the Examiner, paragraph 20 discloses that "the responses are based on the information provided by the original user as well as other sources." Id. Responding to the Appellants' argument in the Answer, the Examiner simply states that "a prior art reference, in its entirety, must be considered for all that it expressly teaches and fairly suggests to one having ordinary skill in the art." Ans. 21. But the Examiner does not explain where in Hamilton the argued limitation is disclosed. For example, the Examiner has not made a clear finding as to what disclosure in Hamilton constitutes the claimed "posting," the claimed "stored inquiry," or the claimed "response comprising an answer." We have carefully reviewed the cited passages in the prior art relied on to determine if in fact Hamilton expressly describes said claim limitation, including "the answer based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user." It is evident from paragraph 20 that Hamilton discloses collecting feedback from multiple users, tagging the feedback to facilitate retrieval, and sharing said feedback with other users. The existence of a stored collection of feedback that all users can share is inadequate as evidence of an express description of "the retrieved response comprising an answer to the stored inquiry, the answer based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user." To anticipate, there must be no difference between the claimed invention and the reference disclosure, as viewed by a person of ordinary skill in the field of the invention. Scripps Clinic & Research Found. v. Genentech Inc., 927 F.2d 1565, 1576 (Fed. Cir. 21 Appeal2017-005197 Application 12/776,937 1991 ). Here, there is a difference; that is, Hamilton discloses sharing feedback but the claim requires more: that an answer to a stored inquiry is based on at least a portion of the posting submitted by the first user. For the foregoing reasons, a prima facie case of anticipation has not been made out in the first instance based on a preponderance of the evidence. Accordingly, the rejection is not sustained. CONCLUSIONS The rejection of claims 1-20 under 35 U.S.C. § 101 as being directed to judicially-excepted subject matter is affirmed. The rejection of claims 4, 5, 13, and 14 under 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph, as being indefinite for failing to particularly point out and distinctly claim the subject matter which the applicants regard as the invention is reversed. The rejection of claims 1-20 under 35 U.S.C. § 102(b) as being anticipated by Hamilton is reversed. DECISION The decision of the Examiner to reject claims 1-20 is affirmed. No time period for taking any subsequent action in connection with this appeal may be extended under 37 C.F.R. § 1.136(a)(l )(iv). AFFIRMED 22 Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation