Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft Zur Forderung Der Angewandten Forschung E.V. v. Sirius XM Radio Inc.

REPLY BRIEF re MOTION to Stay pending resolution of its Motion to Dismiss

D. Del.June 19, 2017

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE FRAUNHOFER-GESELLSCHAFT ZUR FÖRDERUNG DER ANGEWANDTEN FORSCHUNG E.V., Plaintiff, v. SIRIUS XM RADIO INC., Defendant. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) C.A. No. 17-184-JFB-SRF DEFENDANT SIRIUS XM RADIO INC.’S REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION TO STAY PENDING RESOLUTION OF ITS MOTION TO DISMISS OF COUNSEL: Jonathan S. Caplan Mark A. Baghdassarian P. Bradley O’Neill Shannon H. Hedvat KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS & FRANKEL LLP 1177 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10036 (212) 715-9100 Dated: June 19, 2017 Philip A. Rovner (#3215) Jonathan A. Choa (#5319) POTTER ANDERSON & CORROON LLP Hercules Plaza P.O. Box 951 Wilmington, DE 19899 (302) 984-6000 provner@potteranderson.com jchoa@potteranderson.com Attorneys for Defendant Sirius XM Radio Inc. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 1 of 13 PageID #: 627 i TABLE OF CONTENTS Page TABLE OF AUTHORITIES .......................................................................................................... ii I. INTRODUCTION .............................................................................................................. 1 II. THE FACTORS CONSIDERED IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO GRANT A STAY ALL WEIGH HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF A STAY ........................................... 3 A. A Decision On Sirius XM’s Motion To Dismiss Will Simplify The Issues ............3 B. This Action Remains In Its Infancy Because Very Little Has Been Done ..............5 C. Fraunhofer Would Suffer No Undue Prejudice Under A Stay Based On Its Years Of Delay Before Bringing The Instant Action ..............................................8 D. Sirius XM Would Suffer Significant Inequity Without A Stay ...............................9 III. CONCLUSION ................................................................................................................. 10 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 2 of 13 PageID #: 628 ii TABLE OF AUTHORITIES Page(s) Federal Cases Contour IP Holding, LLC v. GoPro, Inc., No. 15-1108-LPS-CJB, 2016 WL 4474340 (D. Del. July 14, 2016) .........................................5 Cooper Notification, Inc. v. Twittter, Inc., No. 09-865-LPS, 2010 WL 5149351 (D. Del. Dec. 13, 2010) ..................................................6 Jim Arnold Corp. v. Hydrotech Sys., Inc., 109 F.3d 1567 (Fed. Cir. 1997)..................................................................................................3 Kaavo Inc. v. Cognizant Tech. Solutions Corp., No. 14-1192-LPS-CJB, 2015 WL 1737476 (D. Del. Apr. 9, 2015) ..................................3, 4, 8 Mission Abstract Data L.L.C. v. Beasley Broad. Grp., Inc., No. 11-176-LPS, 2011 WL 5523315 (D. Del. Nov. 14, 2011) ..................................................5 Pragmatus AV, LLC v. Yahoo! Inc., No.11-902-LPS-CJB, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 79792 (D. Del. May 30, 2013) .........................4 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 3 of 13 PageID #: 629 I. INTRODUCTION Fraunhofer’s Opposition tries to portray this action and Sirius XM’s motions to stay and dismiss as “ordinary,” hoping that this Court will simply follow its “standard approach to case management” and have the case proceed in its “regular course.” But this action and the motions present the unique situation rarely seen in patent infringement cases – Sirius XM has enjoyed a license to the Asserted Patents for nearly twenty years, but Fraunhofer now seeks to erase that license based on the legally erroneous view that Sirius XM’s license terminated as a result of bankruptcy proceedings in 2012 – nearly five years ago. Sirius XM simply seeks resolution of this threshold and case dispositive issue at the earliest stages of this action without having the Court and parties unnecessarily expend resources. Fraunhofer nevertheless litters its Opposition with a parade of mischaracterizations to create a fiction that this Court does not grant stays under the circumstances here. Nothing could be further from reality. For starters, Fraunhofer concedes that if the Court agrees with Sirius XM and grants the motion to dismiss, this case ends. Yet Fraunhofer makes the incredible claim that resolution of Sirius XM's motion to dismiss would not simplify the issues in this action. That simply makes no sense. Fraunhofer ignores both Federal Circuit case law encouraging early resolution of licensing defenses in patent infringement actions, and this Court’s case law consistently finding that the resolution of dispositive motions early in the case simplifies the issues and weighs in favor of granting a stay. Fraunhofer then makes the unbelievable claim that a stay should be denied because this case is not “in its infancy” and “meaningful resources” have been devoted to the instant action. According to Fraunhofer, “initial discovery” has begun and more discovery is to come as a result of the schedule the Court entered. Fraunhofer’s contentions are not only demonstrably false, but Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 4 of 13 PageID #: 630 2 expose its improper tactics. Specifically, Fraunhofer issued document requests one business day before it filed its opposition and before it disclosed the accused products that would inform those document requests, presumably to help Fraunhofer create the misimpression that discovery has begun in earnest. In reality, this case remains in its infancy as very little has been done. Importantly, Fraunhofer ignores the Court’s statements at the Scheduling Conference that Sirius XM’s motion to stay would not be “prejudiced” as a result of the entry of the schedule. Fraunhofer’s attempt to improperly use the limited discovery exchanged under the schedule to dodge a stay is improper and should be summarily rejected. Fraunhofer next recasts Sirius XM’s argument that it would suffer significant inequity without a stay into an argument that Sirius XM seeks a stay only to avoid legal costs for defending against the action. While, of course, Sirius XM seeks to avoid unnecessary legal fees, that is not the argument Sirius XM made based on this Court’s case law. Instead, Sirius XM focused on the inequity. It is not surprising that Fraunhofer ignores Sirius XM’s actual argument because forcing Sirius XM to litigate a patent infringement action that should have never been brought in the first instance based on its paid-up license represents the pinnacle of inequity. Finally, Fraunhofer cannot seriously claim any prejudice from a delay. Fraunhofer has been in no rush to assert its patent infringement claims against Sirius XM, having waited no fewer than five years to bring the instant action. Fraunhofer nevertheless tries to contrive a prejudice argument by claiming, for the first time in its Opposition, that it waited only “two years” to bring this action. However, Fraunhofer’s newly minted position directly contradicts its Complaint alleging that Sirius XM lost its license rights “at the latest, by August 12, 2012.” Even leaving Fraunhofer’s shifting positions aside, this Court has found that a two-year delay weighs against a finding of undue prejudice. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 5 of 13 PageID #: 631 3 For these reasons explained further below, Sirius XM respectfully requests that the Court grant a stay of the proceedings until the Court decides Sirius XM’s pending motion to dismiss. II. THE FACTORS CONSIDERED IN DETERMINING WHETHER TO GRANT A STAY ALL WEIGH HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF A STAY There is no dispute between the parties regarding the factors this Court generally considers in deciding a motion for a stay – (1) simplification of the issues; (2) the stage of the proceedings; (3) undue prejudice to the non-moving party; and (4) undue hardship or inequity to the moving party. Under the circumstances here and the applicable case law, all of these factors weigh heavily in favor of a stay. A. A Decision On Sirius XM’s Motion To Dismiss Will Simplify The Issues There is no dispute that Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss, if granted, would end the instant action and simplify the issues as the Court would have determined, as a matter of law, that Sirius XM has a license to the Asserted Patents. The Federal Circuit endorses having such licensing defenses resolved early in cases. See Jim Arnold Corp. v. Hydrotech Sys., Inc., 109 F.3d 1567, 1577 (Fed. Cir. 1997) (“license issue [should] be resolved first, for if the license issue is resolved in the defendant’s favor the infringement issue is mooted”). Yet, Fraunhofer contends that this factor weighs against a stay because, based on language taken out of context from Kaavo Inc. v. Cognizant Tech. Solutions Corp., No. 14- 1192-LPS-CJB, 2015 WL 1737476 (D. Del. Apr. 9, 2015), Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss might be denied. Opp. at 5 (quoting Kaavo for the proposition that “a stay of the district court case in favor of resolution of any one motion is not going to fare as well in the simplification analysis.”). Fraunhofer entirely ignores the fact that the Kaavo Court granted the stay based on the possibility that a pending motion would simplify the case – the exact situation that exists in the instant matter: Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 6 of 13 PageID #: 632 4 In the end, the possibility of dramatically simplifying the case, and of realizing such simplification at a very early stage, is compelling enough to warrant a grant of Defendants’ motion [to stay]. Kaavo, 2015 WL 1737476 at *4 (emphasis added). Fraunhofer then attempts to dodge the numerous cases Sirius XM cites by positing a distinction without a difference – specifically claiming that the cases involve “circumstances in which the court granted a stay pending the result of a parallel proceeding in the Patent and Trademark Office [the PTAB] . . . .” (Opp. at 5). But Fraunhofer misses the salient point of these cases. Those “parallel proceedings” had the potential to simplify the district court proceedings by ending the cases if the PTAB found the asserted patents invalid, or by narrowing the number of patents or patent claims that could be asserted if the PTAB found only certain claims of those patents invalid. The simplification is even more definitive here where Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss has the potential to end the case in its entirety. Even if the Court denies the motion to dismiss under Fraunhofer’s view, the issues in this action would still be simplified depending on the reasons for such denial, such as whether or not the licensing issue would be subject to discovery or a trial. In short, all potential outcomes on the motion to dismiss will simplify the issues, either by ending the case or focusing the parties on how they should proceed with respect to the licensing issue.1 1 Fraunhofer’s reliance on Pragmatus AV, LLC v. Yahoo! Inc., No.11-902-LPS-CJB, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 79792 (D. Del. May 30, 2013) is misplaced. (Opp. at 5). In that case, the Court denied the request for a stay based on its timing – having been filed nearly nineteen months after the action commenced and after discovery, including depositions, were well underway. Id. at *10-11. On the issue of simplification pending decisions on a motion to transfer and consolidation of discovery and trial in a related California action, the Court found that the possibility of simplification was “speculative” and could result “in complication, not simplification.” The circumstances in the instant action are entirely different, as explained above. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 7 of 13 PageID #: 633 5 B. This Action Remains In Its Infancy Because Very Little Has Been Done There can be no dispute that this action is in its infancy – Sirius XM filed its motion to dismiss in lieu of answering the Complaint on April 17, 2017, and promptly filed a motion for a stay prior to the initial scheduling conference on May 16, 2017; the Court then, at Fraunhofer’s urging, entered a schedule for the action under which the parties have served initial disclosures. Nevertheless, Fraunhofer makes the incredible claim that the Court and the parties “have already devoted meaningful resources to setting a schedule and beginning initial discovery” such as Fraunhofer’s initial set of document requests. These contentions should be rejected outright. To begin with, Fraunhofer served its document requests one business day before filing its Opposition and a week before the deadline for Fraunhofer to identify the accused products (which would obviously elucidate the document requests), a tactic presumably used to create the misimpression that discovery is well underway. Such gamesmanship should not be tolerated. It also strains credulity to say that preparing and entering a schedule along with initial disclosures and a few document requests comprise meaningful efforts that weigh against a stay. To the contrary, this Court has repeatedly granted stays after a schedule has been set and some discovery has been exchanged. See, e.g., Contour IP Holding, LLC v. GoPro, Inc., No. 15-1108-LPS-CJB, 2016 WL 4474340 at *3 n.3 (D. Del. July 14, 2016) (granting stay where court had entered scheduling order, the parties exchanged initial disclosures, plaintiffs had identified the accused products and served infringement contentions, and the parties had presented to the court disputes regarding the proposed protective order and discovery); Mission Abstract Data L.L.C. v. Beasley Broad. Grp., Inc., No. 11-176-LPS, 2011 WL 5523315 (D. Del. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 8 of 13 PageID #: 634 6 Nov. 14, 2011) (granting motion to stay and finding action to be in its earliest stages where a scheduling order had been entered, and discovery had begun but was not complete).2 Fraunhofer does not stop there, further arguing that, by the time the Court resolves the instant motion to stay, the parties will have made “significant headway into the discovery process” under the current Scheduling Order and that such effort should not be wasted. (Opp. at 8-9). Fraunhofer’s position fails for multiple reasons. First, Fraunhofer’s position directly contravenes the Court’s statements at the Scheduling Conference. At the conference, Fraunhofer insisted on a schedule, after rejecting Sirius XM’s proposal to await a decision on the motion for a stay before proceeding with the schedule. D.I. 25 at 1-2. But in agreeing to enter a schedule, the Court explicitly explained that doing so would not prejudice Sirius XM’s motion for a stay: My intent was at this time to do our business today and that is, get a scheduling order entered wherever that takes us after the Motion to Stay is fully briefed and I've had a chance to consider that. As far as I'm concerned, that's an issue for another day. . . . Again, this is without previewing or suggesting that I'm predisposed one way or another with respect to the pending motions; because quite honestly, with the Motion to Stay that I did see posted on the docket, I really haven't had a chance to delve into them, only to know that they exist, that there are pending decisions, that they need to be fully briefed before I can take action on them and it's something that I have to deal with in 2 Fraunhofer’s reliance on Cooper Notification, Inc. v. Twittter, Inc., No. 09-865-LPS, 2010 WL 5149351 (D. Del. Dec. 13, 2010) is misplaced. In that case, the Court denied a motion for a stay based on a petition for inter partes reexamination before the U.S. Patent Office filed ten months after the underlying federal action had commenced. In so finding, the Court raised concerns that while “the status of the litigation . . . [was] still at a relatively early point . . . so, too, [was] the reexamination” and found “compelling . . . the even earlier stage of the reexamination” and the likelihood that it would “likely be three years” before there might be a decision by the USPTO on the reexamination before an appeal could be taken. Based on these circumstances, the Court concluded that “[s]taying this litigation in favor of the PTO proceedings would grant Defendants their choice of forum . . .” and vitiate Plaintiff’s chosen forum in Delaware. Id. at *3. Here, no such issues or concerns exist. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 9 of 13 PageID #: 635 7 the inception of the case as well. So doing this, again it's not prejudicing any side. It's just I think it's appropriate to have a scheduling order in place and whatever modifications, if any, need to be made down the road, we will confront them when they happen. Transcript of Scheduling Conference at 7:9-14; 15:8-21 (May 16, 2017) (emphasis added) (attached hereto as Exhibit A). Second, Fraunhofer is now arguing that because it insisted on a schedule and some limited discovery has occurred or will occur under that schedule, those limited events should weigh against the granting of a stay. Not only is this inconsistent with the case law and this Court’s statements discussed above, such a “heads I win tails you lose” argument should be rejected. Third, Fraunhofer’s Opposition is internally inconsistent. On the one hand, Fraunhofer argues that “meaningful resources” have been expended to support its contention that this case is not in its infancy (Opp. at 6-7), but then directly contradicts this position a few pages later when Fraunhofer argues that there would unlikely be undue expenditure of significant resources based on the limited discovery that would be exchanged under the current schedule: The Court’s Scheduling Order contemplates certain targeted technical disclosures in the coming months going to the core issues of infringement and validity, and Fraunhofer has presented additional discovery requests directed to selected topics. See Ex. A. These are unlikely to require the undue expenditure of significant resources. Opp. at 11 (emphasis added).3 Indeed, even in its disclosures of accused products served on June 15, 2017, Fraunhofer reserves its rights to supplement those accused products because it did not 3 Fraunhofer suggests that it sought to minimize the burden on Sirius XM by requesting that the parties defer exchanging their paragraph 3 disclosures to identify custodians and non-custodial sources of information and documents under the Court’s local rules. But that is just more gamesmanship by Fraunhofer. In response, Sirius XM explained that it did “not understand how this approach would be beneficial or more efficient for the parties. Instead, it will only result in Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 10 of 13 PageID #: 636 8 have “formal discovery, production of documents, or any meaningful disclosures.” Plaintiff’s Initial Disclosure of Accused Products and Asserted Patent Claims (June 15, 2017) (emphasis added) (attached hereto as Exhibit B). Such fundamental inconsistencies expose the weakness of Fraunhofer’s contention. C. Fraunhofer Would Suffer No Undue Prejudice Under A Stay Based On Its Years Of Delay Before Bringing The Instant Action Fraunhofer cannot claim that a short delay resulting from a stay would amount to undue prejudice when Fraunhofer waited at least five years (and possibly longer) before commencing the instant action. Indeed, that five year delay comes straight out of the Complaint where Fraunhofer alleged the point in time in 2012 when Sirius XM’s license to the Asserted Patents purportedly terminated: “Accordingly, Sirius XM’s license terminated at the latest, by August 12, 2012.” D.I. 1, Complaint at ¶ 28 (emphasis added). This allegation, coupled with Fraunhofer’s undisputed filing of the instant action on February 22, 2017, undercuts any argument that a stay would unduly prejudice Fraunhofer by delaying its day in court. Nevertheless, Fraunhofer’s Opposition reverses course and raises for the first time a new position entirely absent from, and inconsistent with, the allegations in the Complaint – specifically, that Fraunhofer waited only two years to bring the instant action after confirming in a letter that Sirius XM’s license was purportedly terminated. (Opp. at 10). Such an attempt to contrive prejudice should be rejected. Even accepting as true Fraunhofer’s most recent account of when Sirius XM’s license purportedly terminated, this Court has found sufficient a two year delay to weigh against a finding of undue prejudice to a Plaintiff. See Kaavo, 2015 WL giving the parties less time to deal with discovery and potential discovery disputes that often arise in these cases. As we have proposed, Sirius XM is amenable to extending all discovery deadlines based on when the Court decides its motion to stay.” (D.I. 15). Fraunhofer, as it had before the initial scheduling conference, rejected Sirius XM’s proposal. Id. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 11 of 13 PageID #: 637 9 1737476, at *4 n. 9 (holding that period of two years between issuance of patent and filing of lawsuit weighed against a finding of undue prejudice). Furthermore, Fraunhofer’s conduct in the limited time since the Court entered the schedule confirms that it is in no rush to move along the case. More particularly, on June 5, 2017, Fraunhofer “propose[d] extending the deadline for Paragraph 3 disclosures [to identify custodians and other sources of discoverable information]” from June 15, 2017 to October 26, 2017. Such a four month delay is inconsistent with a party seeking to “move things along.” Fraunhofer also complains about the length of time it may take the Court to resolve Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss as a result of “the Court’s busy docket and the judicial vacancies in this District.” (Opp. at 10). But blaming the Court’s busy docket is not a valid basis to manufacture undue prejudice, particularly in view of Fraunhofer’s five year delay in bringing this action. If anything, the Court’s busy docket counsels in favor of a stay to conserve judicial resources and avoid having to unnecessarily entertain inevitable discovery disputes and claim construction proceedings when Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss can end the case at its earliest stages. Nonetheless, any issue concerning the Court’s schedule and vacancies has now been addressed as the case has now been assigned to Judge Joseph F. Bataillon. D. Sirius XM Would Suffer Significant Inequity Without A Stay Sirius XM would suffer significant inequity if forced to litigate the patent infringement action brought by Fraunhofer before a decision on whether Sirius XM’s license rights to the Asserted Patents remain in place. Fraunhofer seeks to dodge that situation and instead recasts Sirius XM’s argument as one concerning the cost of litigation rather than one based on inequity. Of course, Sirius XM would prefer not to incur costs to litigate the case under the current schedule. But Sirius XM’s argument focuses on the inequity that would result without a stay – Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 12 of 13 PageID #: 638 10 simply stated, Sirius XM should not be forced to litigate a patent infringement action that should have never been brought in view of its license to the Asserted Patents. III. CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons and those set forth in its Opening Brief, Sirius XM respectfully requests that the Court stay in the instant action pending a decision on Sirius XM’s motion to dismiss. OF COUNSEL: Jonathan S. Caplan Mark A. Baghdassarian P. Bradley O’Neill Shannon H. Hedvat KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS & FRANKEL LLP 1177 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10036 (212) 715-9100 Dated: June 19, 2017 5248979 POTTER ANDERSON CORROON LLP By: /s/ Philip A. Rovner Philip A. Rovner (#3215) Jonathan A. Choa (#5319) Hercules Plaza P.O. Box 951 Wilmington, DE 19899 (302) 984-6000 provner@potteranderson.com jchoa@potteranderson.com Attorneys for Defendant Sirius XM Radio Inc. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35 Filed 06/19/17 Page 13 of 13 PageID #: 639 EXHIBIT A Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 1 of 47 PageID #: 640 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE FRAUNHOFER-GESELLSCHAFT : ZUR FORDERUNG DER : ANGEWANDTEN FORSCHUNG : No. 1:17-184-VAC-SRF E. V. : Plaintiff, : v. : : SIRIUS XM RADIO INC., : Defendant. : Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:00 p.m. Status Conference Courtroom of Judge Sherry R. Fallon 844 King Street Wilmington, Delaware BEFORE: THE HONORABLE Sherry R. Fallon, United States District Court Magistra te APPEARANCES: FARNAN, LLP BY: BRIAN FARNAN, ESQ. -and- IRELL & MANELLA LLP BY: DAVUD McPHIE, ESQ. BY: BEN YORKS, ESQ. On behalf Plaintiff Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 1 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 2 of 47 PageID #: 641 1 APPEARANCES CONTINUED: 2 POTTER ANDERSON & CORROON LLP BY: PHILIP ROVNER, ESQ. 3 -and- 4 KRAMER LEVIN 5 BY: JONATHAN CAPLAN, ESQ. BY: MARK BAGHDASSARIAN, ESQ. 6 BY: PETER ABRUZZESE, ESQ. 7 On behalf of Defendant 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 2 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 3 of 47 PageID #: 642 1 THE COURT: This is the time I set aside 2 for a scheduling conference. I don't think I can 3 pronounce the German name of the Plaintiff, Fraunho fer, 4 is as far as I can get, vs. Sirius XM Radio. Let's 5 start with the introductions of counsel for the 6 Plaintiff. 7 MR. FARNAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. 8 Brian Farnan on behalf of the Plaintiff and with me is 9 Ben Yorks and David McPhie from Irell & Manella. 10 THE COURT: Very good. Good afternoon. 11 Mr. Rovner? 12 MR. ROVNER: Good afternoon, Your Honor. 13 Phil Rovner from Potter Anderson for Defendant Siri us 14 XM. And with me is my co-counsel Jonathan Kaplan, Mark 15 Baghdassarian and Peter Abruzzese from Kramer Levin . 16 MR. CAPLAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. 17 THE COURT: Good afternoon. Let me take 18 a moment to get the computer up and running in case I 19 need to access the docket. All right. I have rece ived 20 the parties' proposed scheduling order that contain s 21 both areas of agreement and areas of disagreement w ith 22 respect to the dates. 23 The purpose of today's conference 24 obviously is to enter a scheduling order for the ca se. Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 3 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 4 of 47 PageID #: 643 1 Let me just indicate for those of you who have not been 2 before me or any of the other Magistrate Judges wit h 3 respect to cases assigned to the vacant judgeship 4 docket, there are two vacancies obviously in our co urt. 5 It is unknown at this time who will be 6 appointed as the District Judge for the case. The 7 parties also have the option of consenting to the 8 jurisdiction of a Magistrate Judge. That can be 9 consent for purposes of a single motion. It can be 10 consent for the life of the case and through trial. 11 And the procedures for consent are on the District 12 Court's website. That is a matter that the parties can 13 confer about, can consider at any time during the 14 course of the case. 15 If I enter trial dates in this order, I 16 will not be able to guarantee that the District Jud ge 17 ultimately appointed for this case would be able to be 18 available on the dates that we set for trial, so ju st 19 keep that in mind. The other deadlines that we set I 20 will shepherd the case through the litigation proce ss 21 up to the point where it becomes necessary to engag e a 22 District Judge, whether that point is if there shou ld 23 be objections, for instance, to any type of Report and 24 Recommendation that I might issue in this case or a ny Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 4 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 5 of 47 PageID #: 644 1 other time along the litigation schedule. 2 So with that, let's proceed to discuss 3 where the parties have disputes with respect to the 4 deadlines in the case scheduling order. I'd like t o 5 hear a bit of background to the extent it may be 6 helpful for me to understand whether more or less t ime 7 should be given for a particular event. So with th at, 8 let me hear first from the Plaintiff with respect t o 9 the proposed scheduling order and some brief backgr ound 10 on the case. 11 MR. McPHIE: Yes, Your Honor. It's a 12 patent case. There's four patents in the case. It 13 relates to digital satellite technology, particular ly 14 the delivery system. Fraunhofer, they had develope d 15 this technology for XM and there was a license to a 16 company called WorldSpace and then a sublicense to 17 WorldSpace to Sirius XM which is the basis of their 18 contention that they still have a license. 19 We think it's -- we designed the system. 20 We feel it's a very strong patent read because it's our 21 engineering, so we feel it could be a really 22 streamlined case in terms of timing. 23 THE COURT: All right. With respect to 24 there's a pending motion, is there going to be a Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 5 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 6 of 47 PageID #: 645 1 request or has there been a request on the docket f or 2 oral argument? I don't know if Plaintiff can speak to 3 that or I should be asking that of Defendant Sirius . 4 Mr. Rovner? 5 MR. ROVNER: Your Honor, the Motion to 6 Dismiss has not been fully briefed yet. Plaintiff has 7 just filed its opposition yesterday. Our reply is due 8 a week or two and we do also have a Motion to Stay that 9 we filed yesterday regarding entry of a scheduling 10 order because of the pending Motion to Dismiss. 11 THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Rovner. 12 Perhaps if you want to speak 13 procedurally to where that puts us from the Plainti ff's 14 perspective. 15 MR. McPHIE: As he mentioned, their reply 16 is due in a week or two and then we're going to fil e a 17 an opposition brief to the stay. As I mentioned 18 earlier, their contention is they still have a lice nse. 19 We feel very strongly that they don't. There's som e 20 key facts that they left out of the motion. You ca n 21 see from our papers we filed yesterday they don't h ave 22 a license. 23 THE COURT: All right. Well, I don't 24 necessarily want to get into the substantive issues Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 6 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 7 of 47 PageID #: 646 1 being briefed on the Motion to Dismiss. I just nee d to 2 factor in the time for any motions that have been f iled 3 or recently filed to be fully briefed and to be hea rd 4 by the Court if there's not going to be oral argume nt, 5 to be considered on the papers by the Court so that 6 decisions can be issued. 7 Typically, it is the practice of the 8 Court not to hang up entry of a scheduling order 9 notwithstanding motions to dismiss being filed. My 10 intent was at this time to do our business today an d 11 that is, get a scheduling order entered wherever th at 12 takes us after the Motion to Stay is fully briefed and 13 I've had a chance to consider that. As far as I'm 14 concerned, that's an issue for another day. 15 So let's go forward with substantive 16 discussion of the dates proposed in the scheduling 17 order and whether there's any compromise or middle 18 ground, so to speak, to the deadlines that have bee n 19 proposed by each side. I don't know if Defendants want 20 to address some brief background before we do those 21 dates. 22 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, if we could, I 23 appreciate it again. John Caplan on behalf of Siri us 24 XM. It is true, as counsel said, the case was file d as Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 7 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 8 of 47 PageID #: 647 1 a four-patent infringement case and the Fraunhofer 2 entity has been involved with the technology. He s aid 3 they designed the system and that's actually why th e 4 Motion to Dismiss and now the Motion to Stay were 5 filed. 6 I just heard, Your Honor, that your 7 intention is to enter a scheduling order which is 8 obviously fine, but I did want to give you a little bit 9 of background -- 10 THE COURT: All right. 11 MR. CAPLAN: -- on that issue without 12 going into the merits of it. The Motion to Dismiss was 13 filed early on in lieu of answering because there w as a 14 prior agreement between Fraunhofer and the company 15 called WorldSpace and my client Sirius XM. Those f acts 16 have been laid out very clearly in our Motion to 17 Dismiss and we will put it in our final brief short ly. 18 One point I want to make at this juncture 19 is that the Motion to Dismiss are purely legal issu es 20 and are not related to the patent infringement clai ms. 21 To the extent there is a patent infringement case h ere, 22 which we think there shouldn't be, the scheduling o rder 23 Your Honor would enter would trigger all of the 24 activities related to claim construction and fact Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 8 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 9 of 47 PageID #: 648 1 discovery related to infringement and validity, all of 2 those issues. None of those issues are pertinent f or 3 the Motion to Dismiss which is strictly a legal iss ue 4 based on contract, so that's just one background is sue 5 to the extent the Court can take that into 6 consideration as we go through the hearing today. 7 And then the other point is that in 8 preparing the scheduling order and I think, in fact , it 9 is in the scheduling order on the first page in 10 Fraunhofer's proposal, they raised the issue that t he 11 parties have discussed about holding off entry of t he 12 scheduling ordered and starting the case in earnest 13 pending a decision on the Motion to Dismiss. We 14 recommended at that time that we wait until there i s a 15 decision. They declined to go with that. In fact, 16 they said if you think it's appropriate for a stay, go 17 ahead and file your Motion to Stay which we've done . 18 To the extent there's going to be a 19 concern about timing, we have been very prompt. Th ey 20 have asked for full briefing on the Motion to Stay so I 21 don't think they would have an objection to that. And 22 even just from a brief review of their papers, just 23 based on their view of the world, something happene d in 24 2012 which gave rise to their ability to even bring Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 9 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 10 of 47 PageID #: 649 1 this action, that was five years before it was actu ally 2 filed. So we don't think that there is a big issue in 3 holding off and for the reasons I said at the outse t, 4 Your Honor, we think it would be practical for the 5 Court and the parties to sort out this threshold is sue 6 which would be case dispositive, which again is a s hort 7 Motion to Dismiss. The factors we think are clearl y 8 met, but I won't go into all of the underlying meri ts. 9 Nothing has happened yet in the case and we don't t hink 10 there's any prejudice because like I said, it's bee n 11 five years before they took action. Having said th at, 12 Your Honor, you want to talk about dates so I will stop 13 there. 14 THE COURT: Very well. Let me turn back 15 to the Plaintiff to address whether or not it makes 16 sense with a pending Motion to Stay that was filed 17 yesterday for the Court to wait until that is fully 18 briefed and then to deal with a scheduling conferen ce 19 afterwards pending whether or not to stay the case. 20 MR. McPHIE: Again, David McPhie for 21 Fraunhofer. We don't believe it makes sense to hol d 22 off. I think we just heard from opposing counsel t hat 23 there's nothing in the Motion to Dismiss that is 24 contingent on any of the disclosures, the typical Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 10 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 11 of 47 PageID #: 650 1 disclosures that you see, coming out of the beginni ng 2 of a patent case pursuant to Paragraph 4 of the ESI 3 order, so it's very natural to just proceed on both of 4 those tracks. We don't need to wait to see what 5 happens on the Motion to Dismiss in order to begin with 6 those disclosures. And those disclosures are fairl y 7 straightforward. I believe the first one is simply for 8 Fraunhofer to disclose the patents that are applica ble 9 to the various Sirius XM products and then there's a 10 30-day turnaround to turn around the product manual 11 specifications and that sort of thing that are 12 associated with those products. So we don't believ e 13 there's a license. We think as you said as a very 14 standard procedure to continue to go forward with a 15 schedule notwithstanding a dispositive motion. It' s 16 not unusual for a Defendant to have a dispositive 17 motion or one that they think is dispositive, so we 18 would urge that we go forward with the standard 19 practice at this time. 20 THE COURT: In light of the pending 21 motions, why not push out for some additional time some 22 of the deadlines that Sirius has proposed? I think the 23 parties look to be for the most part running a pace by 24 a gap of about six months. Any reason why the Cour t Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 11 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 12 of 47 PageID #: 651 1 shouldn't consider that six-month push-out proposed by 2 Sirius for a number of these deadlines to permit 3 consideration and full briefing on the pending moti ons? 4 MR. McPHIE: We're very flexible. It is 5 true that there's not that big of a gap between the 6 parties' competing schedules. So from our client's 7 point of view, it's preferable to the Court to sele ct a 8 date that's between those two dates or even closer 9 toward the Sirius XM. I think that's totally fine. 10 We would like to at least start the case 11 with some of the initial disclosures so we can get this 12 case moving because we think we're strong on the 13 license and there is no license and we don't want t o 14 lose time and otherwise we can get those rolling. 15 THE COURT: Okay. With respect to the 16 initial disclosures, the Plaintiff's proposal is to 17 start that process going within five days of the Ru le 18 16 conference. I'm looking at Paragraph 1 of Page 3. 19 And Sirius proposed getting that process started wi thin 20 10 days and I haven't worked out with respect to th e 21 Paragraph IV requirements just how far apart the 22 parties are on that. 23 It looks to me the Paragraph IV 24 requirements that are under Sirius' proposal are no t Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 12 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 13 of 47 PageID #: 652 1 all that distant from what would normally be requir ed 2 under the default standard, but I haven't done a si de- 3 by-side comparison. 4 MR. McPHIE: If I may, Your Honor, on 5 that point because just looking at that, I thought 6 there might be a little confusion on that point. 7 Fraunhofer has not proposed set dates on the Paragr aph 8 IV requirements. We believe the ESI order already 9 provides for the timeline which is 30 days from tod ay, 10 then another 30 days from Sirius XM's first disclos ure 11 and we ping-pong back and forth 30 days like that. 12 THE COURT: All right. You may be 13 seated. 14 MR. McPHIE: Thank you, Your Honor. 15 THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. McPhie. Yes, 16 Mr. Caplan? 17 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, just briefly on 18 that point, counsel says typically there's some cas e 19 dispositive motions. I would submit it's not typic al 20 for a patent licensor to sue its licensee at the ou tset 21 of a case, so we don't think this is the typical Mo tion 22 to Dismiss at the outset of a case. 23 Moreover, what counsel is recommending to 24 the Court is really getting into the guts of Sirius Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 13 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 14 of 47 PageID #: 653 1 XM's technology, its receiver design, where these 2 patents would ultimately if they were replicated, w hat 3 they would be touching. So we're essentially embar king 4 upon a very technical undertaking when we think we 5 shouldn't be here in the first place. And given th at 6 it doesn't seem to be any dispute that I'm hearing that 7 this is a legal issue to be decided, if we could ge t 8 that decided at the outset, we think that makes a l ot 9 more sense. 10 We do think it would be prejudicial to 11 have to start our case on the technology side in 12 earnest kind of given the context that this case ar ose. 13 And to the timing, as I said before, for them to wa nt 14 to get rolling out, that really doesn't hold any wa ter 15 given that we're five years after they alleged this . 16 They had the ability to bring this action. I don't see 17 why however long the Court would be appropriate to get 18 this Motion to Dismiss out of the way, that seems t o be 19 reasonable in this circumstance. 20 THE COURT: All right. 21 MR. McPHIE: If I may respond briefly, 22 we're not proposing going into emails and search te rms 23 and depositions and people flying across the countr y to 24 do this sort of thing. I think it's a pretty modes t Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 14 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 15 of 47 PageID #: 654 1 requirement that's contemplated under Paragraph IV. I 2 think we achieve a fair balance there if we go forw ard 3 with those requirements while the Motion to Dismiss is 4 under consideration. 5 THE COURT: You may be seated, counsel. 6 I suggest we roll up our sleeves and try to come to 7 terms with the dates to input in a scheduling order . 8 Again, this is without previewing or suggesting tha t 9 I'm predisposed one way or another with respect to the 10 pending motions; because quite honestly, with the 11 Motion to Stay that I did see posted on the docket, I 12 really haven't had a chance to delve into them, onl y to 13 know that they exist, that there are pending decisi ons, 14 that they need to be fully briefed before I can tak e 15 action on them and it's something that I have to de al 16 with in the inception of the case as well. So doin g 17 this, again it's not prejudicing any side. It's ju st I 18 think it's appropriate to have a scheduling order i n 19 place and whatever modifications, if any, need to b e 20 made down the road, we will confront them when they 21 happen. And since we are going to be for the most part 22 talking about dates, I will give both sides a pass. 23 You don't have to stand up to address the Court. J ust 24 as long I can hear you, you speak in the microphone Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 15 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 16 of 47 PageID #: 655 1 from counsel table and we will go forward. 2 Starting with the default discovery 3 standard, so to speak, which has been addressed by the 4 parties in Paragraph 1 with repeated proposals at P ages 5 3 to 4, I've looked at the actual dates that would fit 6 into Fraunhofer's proposal and compared them to the 7 Sirius proposal and they're not all that dramatical ly 8 different. In fact, many of the dates would seem t o be 9 relatively the same. 10 So for purposes of the initial 11 disclosures and the e-discovery default standard, I 'm 12 going to adopt Sirius' proposal for that and those 13 dates will be entered under Paragraph 1. Now, befo re I 14 go on, who took the laboring oar in preparing the j oint 15 proposed order that was docketed, because I'm going to 16 ask that side to take care of the do-over inserting the 17 dates following our conference here today? 18 MR. FARNAN: We will handle that. 19 THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Farnan. So 20 that brings us to Item No. 2 on Page 4, Paragraph 2 , 21 Joinder of Other Parties and Amendment of Pleadings . I 22 don't know if this is a typo or if Sirius wanted 23 joinder earlier than Fraunhofer. Sirius has July 1 , 24 2017. Fraunhofer has December 14, 2017. Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 16 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 17 of 47 PageID #: 656 1 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, I think the 2 point is they should know who they should be suing at 3 this point. Like I said, we're five years after th ey 4 think they've had a reason to come after us. If th ey 5 don't know by now, we don't want to hear about it 6 later. 7 MR. McPHIE: Your Honor, the main concern 8 that comes up with this deadline is that sometimes 9 during the course of initial production of document s, 10 technical documents and that sort of thing, it may be 11 that additional patent infringement is covered on 12 different patents that may arise. I'm not saying t hat 13 will or won't happen here, but to provide a window for 14 that to happen. And especially, if we're pushing b ack 15 it sounds like some of these technical dates, we ou ght 16 to have the time to do that. 17 THE COURT: That was my logic too, if I'm 18 pushing back on the Paragraph IV requirements, I th ink 19 it makes sense to adopt the later date for joinder 20 proposed by Fraunhofer. I will adopt the December 14, 21 2017 proposal for that for joinder amendment. Over all, 22 close of fact discovery, in light of the parties be ing 23 again roughly six months apart on the proposal, I'm 24 inclined to set a date that's in between that and e nter Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 17 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 18 of 47 PageID #: 657 1 July 31, 2018, so July 31, 2018 for Subpart 3(b) on 2 Page 5 of the scheduling order. 3 Then sticking within that methodology, 4 the document production under that subsection, agai n I 5 will choose a date in the middle of the competing 6 proposals offered by the parties. Plaintiff's prop osal 7 being October 26, 2017 and Sirius' being May 18, 20 18 8 and a compromise would be January 31, 2018. And if as 9 we go along, counsel, you want to make sure you put a 10 comment on the record for purposes of scheduling or 11 whatever, please feel free to flag it for me and I will 12 give you an opportunity to be heard, because I'm 13 looking down and I'm not looking at you. 14 That brings us to expert under Subsection 15 C, Party with Initial Burden of Proof, again, I'm g oing 16 to select a date that's in between the two proposed by 17 the parties, and that will be August 24, 2018. Wit h 18 respect to expert rebuttal as between the June 2018 and 19 January 2019 dates proposed respectfully by Plainti ff 20 and Defendant, I will insert October 26, 2018. 21 And turning to Page 5, again with final 22 expert reply reports as between the two dates propo sed 23 by the parties, I will insert November 16, 2018 and 24 will give the date for close of expert discovery Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 18 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 19 of 47 PageID #: 658 1 December 17, 2018. Moving forward through the prop osed 2 order to Page 7, Application for a Protective Order , I 3 don't have an issue extending that time as proposed by 4 Sirius to June 15, 2017. The parties need a protec tive 5 order in place if you're going to start exchanging 6 information so naturally the sooner the better, but I 7 don't see much meaningful difference between the da tes 8 proposed by Fraunhofer and adding a little bit of a n 9 extra couple of weeks proposed by Sirius, so I will put 10 in June 15, 2017 as proposed by Sirius. 11 MR. McPHIE: Your Honor, if I may 12 comment, and I think the June 15th date is fine, th e 13 one thing that I want flagged is that under Paragra ph 14 4(b) disclosure, which is a month later than that, I 15 expect that that will include at least some informa tion 16 of a technical nature that Sirius will want to have 17 protected if we have not been able to arrive at som e 18 sort of protective order by that date. My 19 understanding is there's a default provision that 20 allows for some protection. I just want to make su re 21 that working out of those details isn't going to sl ow 22 us down on the production of documents pursuant to 23 4(b). 24 THE COURT: Well, you raised a good point Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 19 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 20 of 47 PageID #: 659 1 and I probably should have addressed it in any 2 preliminary comments and I will offer this to the 3 parties as well, although the form of scheduling or der 4 that I put on my website doesn't necessarily have i t. 5 When referred cases for discovery by Judge Robinson , 6 patent cases, I will typically after she enters the 7 scheduling order, and I wouldn't have any problem 8 continuing to practice in this case, set a time for a 9 discovery review conference if both parties find it 10 will be helpful. 11 I don't want to waste everybody's time 12 unnecessarily, and particularly as I recognize ther e's 13 a motion practice going on simultaneously. But whe n 14 the appropriate time is right, I will be willing to 15 entertain a discovery review conference, specifical ly 16 with respect to fact discovery under way and probab ly 17 it will be the very beginnings of that to address a ny 18 issues that are cropping up with respect to protect ive 19 orders or production or whatever if the parties nee d to 20 do that. 21 We can build in a time to address issues 22 if you see some tension between the dates being ado pted 23 in the scheduling order and the default standard or 24 other activities that may need to take place in the Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 20 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 21 of 47 PageID #: 660 1 case. I would expect in a lot of these instances t hat 2 the parties would be able to talk about it and be a ble 3 to do what's practical and reasonable, but if there 4 really becomes some friction or tension that you ca n't 5 resolve, we can go forward and schedule a review 6 conference and put a couple of issues on the plate. 7 I will give each side an opportunity to 8 pick two or three priority issues or a discovery 9 dispute, if there's discrete issues that one or bot h 10 sides have where there has not been arguably compli ance 11 by one side or the other with discovery obligations , we 12 can proceed in any fashion. I'm trying to not get too 13 deep beyond the simple task of entering a schedulin g 14 order today, nor saying that I am inviting discover y 15 disputes or encouraging more hearings or conference s, 16 but it has been my practice, and I'm sure your Dela ware 17 counsel has told you what the practice has been, wh en I 18 would work with Judge Robinson to review fact disco very 19 issues in other patent cases. 20 If it works for all of you, I will 21 continue to practice if you think it's not a good 22 productive use of time, we don't have to necessaril y 23 build it into this schedule. After we get this 24 scheduling order today, the parties can meet and co nfer Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 21 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 22 of 47 PageID #: 661 1 on whether you want one or not. And if you do, all you 2 have to do is reach out to chambers and I won't twe ak 3 this particular scheduling order. I will simply en ter 4 an oral order on the docket setting a time for a 5 discovery review conference and we will proceed tha t 6 way. 7 MR. McPHIE: Thank you, Your Honor. And 8 I think we should be able to work out details of a 9 protective order. I have no reason to believe that we 10 can't do that. 11 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, I certainly 12 agree with that. And if there's a dispute, we will 13 reach out. My main concern is what I raised at the 14 outset in June and getting a protective order done 15 because they're expecting production and that's exa ctly 16 what we think is getting a little ahead of where we 17 want to be. 18 THE COURT: Well, I will certainly 19 address those discrete issues as they're brought to my 20 attention following the parties have made an effort to 21 meet and confer. 22 I think that leaves us then on Page 8, 23 the deadline for an interim status report. And aga in, 24 as between the two proposals that continue from Pag e 8 Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 22 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 23 of 47 PageID #: 662 1 and Page 9, I will take the middle ground and requi re 2 the parties to submit an interim status report on 3 January 24, 2018. And then I will enter a date for a 4 status conference. 5 I was going to enter a date for a status 6 conference again in the middle ground, April 24, 20 18 7 at 10:00 a.m., but I was looking back at where expe rt 8 disclosures are. And I guess if I do it on that da te, 9 it would precede any issues with experts and while we 10 can certainly have it on that date, again if the 11 parties think it would be beneficial and anticipate 12 that there may be some issues concerning experts, I 13 could leave it up to the parties or I could build i n 14 another date for a status conference with respect t o 15 expert discovery but I don't know that we necessari ly 16 need to decide that at the moment, but I offer that 17 option to the parties, if you want to think about i t 18 and build in a date with respect to experts. 19 Similarly, I don't know if we will need 20 to talk at this status conference the interim statu s 21 conference that's contemplated in the order about a ny 22 type of parsing down with four patents. I think it 23 would be manageable. I don't want to predict what 24 parsing down is needed with respect to anything rel ated Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 23 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 24 of 47 PageID #: 663 1 to the claims in terms of claims or anything like t hat 2 or anything that may be related to the defense and 3 validity as in prior art. 4 Again, I'm not that deep into the case 5 where I can make these predictions. But normally, a 6 status conference would take place to address those 7 types of issues as well if the parties require it. 8 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, if we get to 9 that point, all of those issues will be in play, th at 10 is true, if we get there. 11 THE COURT: Well, let me just build into 12 this particular schedule one status conference as I 13 indicated in between the dates that have been propo sed 14 by the parties. And again, that's Paragraph 9 at P age 15 9, and I will build in a status conference for Apri l 16 24, 2018 at 10:00 a.m. 17 That brings us I believe to case 18 dispositive motions. If I continue with a middle 19 ground compromise between the dates proposed and fo r 20 Paragraph 11 case dispositive motions, I would make 21 them due on or before January 16, 2019 and the rest of 22 the briefing would follow accordingly, answering br iefs 23 on February 15, 2019. 24 Moving onto claim construction, I guess Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 24 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 25 of 47 PageID #: 664 1 let me hear from Plaintiffs a bit. In light of the 2 motion practice and the schedule that I've set for 3 earlier disclosure, does it make sense to push out the 4 claim construction issue and identification? And i f I 5 incorporate in this scheduling order a date followi ng 6 the hearing on claim construction when a claim 7 construction decision and order will be out, for 8 instance, if I do it no later than 45 days after th e 9 hearing on claim construction, would there be a pro blem 10 from Plaintiff's perspective in adopting the later 11 dates proposed by Sirius, because I have a feeling -- 12 in a perfect world it would be nice for scheduling 13 orders never to be amended or revised, but we don't 14 live in a perfect word and I'm just wondering as a 15 practical consideration if it really makes sense to 16 have an earlier claim construction as proposed by 17 Plaintiffs with all of the other matters pending in the 18 case. Let me hear your view on that. 19 MR. McPHIE: Thank you, Your Honor. I 20 was trying to flip back and forth and look where we 21 landed on some of the -- so I think we needed to st art 22 those disclosures after November 17 which is the la st 23 of the Paragraph IV dates. With that said, we want to 24 also on the other hand make sure that a claim Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 25 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 26 of 47 PageID #: 665 1 construction order is something that we get, say, a t 2 least a couple of months before the end of fact 3 discovery. 4 THE COURT: I won't hold up an order on 5 claim construction. I'm willing to put a deadline of 6 45 days following whatever the hearing date is that we 7 select. 8 MR. McPHIE: So it looks like we have 9 cut-off fact discovery of July 31st, so if we have a 10 claim construction order by May? 11 THE COURT: All right. 12 MR. McPHIE: I don't know however long 13 Your Honor would take to put together an order but if 14 we -- 15 THE COURT: Typically, it's 30 to 45 days 16 following the hearing. No later than 45. I try to get 17 it out within 30, but sometimes I need a little mor e 18 time so I say 45 just to make it safe. But I can s ay 19 30 in this instance. Again, it's without knowing j ust 20 how involved it is, how many claims need to be 21 construed. 22 MR. McPHIE: So then that will put the 23 hearing in March or April? 24 THE COURT: Well, as proposed by Sirius Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 26 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 27 of 47 PageID #: 666 1 it would. I can shorten some of these deadlines. I 2 don't necessarily have to split it in the middle. 3 MR. CAPLAN: Your Honor, we expect that 4 we shouldn't get there. But in the event that we d o, 5 these patents are fairly technical. I expect it's not 6 going to be a light and easy construing some sort o f 7 functional feature. I would expect they will be -- 8 THE COURT: Rarely is it a walk in the 9 park. 10 MR. CAPLAN: But these in particular are 11 fairly low-level technical issues that are involved , 12 which again relates back to the whole discovery 13 undertaking. This is not giving an operations manu al 14 for how to turn on your radio. So we're kind of 15 backing into, even with some of these dates, 16 effectively starting the case which is why we teed up 17 the other motions. We just want to make clear the 18 Court is aware at least from our perspective this i s 19 not going to be two or three terms that have to be 20 construed in a short brief. That's not my expectat ion. 21 THE COURT: Understood and I appreciate 22 the heads-up, but I also know what seems like the b ig 23 picture now is often subject to change as a case go es 24 forward. Again, as things happen that will bring a Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 27 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 28 of 47 PageID #: 667 1 clearer picture in realtime. Modifications can be made 2 as long as there's good cause for an application to 3 extend or modify. 4 And more importantly, if the parties are 5 in agreement and so stipulate, I'm more inclined to be 6 receptive to that. But if I have to deal with moti ons 7 for extensions, I will deal with motions for 8 extensions. And again, that's not to preview any 9 ruling on any motions that may be pending and not f ully 10 briefed at this time. 11 Now, going back to fact discovery cut-off 12 in July and Plaintiff's request to have a claim 13 construction order, if I adopted Sirius' proposal, 14 issue of identification would start in December, ac tual 15 briefing in February and March with a hearing in Ap ril 16 and then I will be getting an order out depending o n 17 when that hearing date is in April within 35 days o r 18 so. 19 Let me ask my law clerk who has our 20 calendar up. And for claim construction, I'm 21 specifically concerned about when in April we would be 22 able to conduct a claim construction hearing that 23 leaves about 35 days roughly to get a claim 24 construction order issued and that doesn't disrupt the Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 28 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 29 of 47 PageID #: 668 1 prior deadlines with respect to close of fact disco very 2 and beginning of expert report exchanges. 3 So with respect to claim construction, I 4 will adopt the deadlines proposed by Sirius beginni ng 5 with issue identification on December 15, 2017, ini tial 6 briefing on February 10, 2018, answering briefs on 7 March 10, 2018. I will conduct a claim constructio n 8 hearing on April 4, 2018. 9 Is there a preference, counsel, to have 10 an afternoon start or would you prefer a morning st art? 11 Let me hear from Plaintiffs first with respect to A pril 12 4, 2018. 13 MR. McPHIE: We're from California so 14 afternoon would be great. 15 THE COURT: So we will start it at 16 1:00 p.m. Okay. Let me ask defense counsel, are t here 17 any conflicts with that? 18 MR. CAPLAN: Not that I know of. I don't 19 know when the holidays are, but I will double check 20 that. 21 THE COURT: I had that roughly in the 22 back of my mind too. So if you want to check that 23 after the fact and let's just get it near or around 24 roughly these dates. And it's not proposed in here but Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 29 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 30 of 47 PageID #: 669 1 I'm going to add in, in the paragraph on Page 12 th at 2 follows these dates, the Court will issue its decis ion 3 on claim construction on or before May 11, 2018. S o we 4 will add that into the paragraph that's above Parag raph 5 18. 6 Now, I was going to, as I said earlier, 7 build in pretrial conference dates and a trial date 8 with the big caveat that I cannot since the Distric t 9 Judge is as yet unknown. I cannot guarantee 10 availability for the District Judge on these dates. As 11 long as the parties are aware of that and I've 12 mentioned it and you don't come back to me in a lat er 13 time reminding me of promises that I did not make, I 14 made it absolutely clear. 15 With respect to the pretrial conference, 16 again I was trying to pick a middle ground between the 17 dates proposed by the parties and was thinking Marc h 6, 18 2019. I'm happy to put that in the afternoon at 19 1:00 p.m. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the 20 morning. 21 With the proposed pretrial order due, I'm 22 going to pick February 20, 2019. That's a Wednesda y. 23 And then I would pick a middle ground for trial 24 commencing on April 1, 2019. And again, the partie s Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 30 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 31 of 47 PageID #: 670 1 can check and let me know if that interferes with a ny 2 holidays that may be taking place in 2019. 3 As the parties know, the parties have 4 indicated eight days for trial and that's fine. I will 5 put that in the order. When it gets much closer, t he 6 parties will be given the amount of time that each side 7 will have for trial. 8 MR. CAPLAN: Just to make sure that we're 9 keeping track of the dispositive motions, it looks like 10 the dispositions motions we put January and then 11 February. 12 THE COURT: Okay. Then we need to push 13 out the pretrial and trial. 14 MR. ROVNER: Your Honor, just to point 15 out, this is Paragraph 11, Page 10, you have opposi tion 16 briefs to dispositive motions due February 15. We 17 didn't put it in, but we need a reply to us and tha t 18 will take us out to March 1, so we will probably ha ve 19 to move the trial dates. 20 THE COURT: Okay. Well, is that a matter 21 with respect to those items something that counsel can 22 confer about following the conclusion of this 23 conference today and make a proposal? And again, i f 24 there's competing proposals, I will just address it on Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 31 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 32 of 47 PageID #: 671 1 the papers without further teleconference. I will 2 select something, but I would expect given what we' ve 3 done with the preceding portion of the scheduling 4 order, I would hope that counsel could get together and 5 try to work it out in similar fashion. 6 MR. McPHIE: We will do that, Your Honor. 7 If I may raise one other question, on the length of 8 trial, there were competing proposals from Fraunhof er. 9 THE COURT: There were five days and 10 eight days. I'm sorry. I will err on the side of 11 caution and go with eight days. But again, as you know 12 these things are fluid. By the time of trial, the 13 issues may be narrowed, who knows what will happen, 14 what kind of briefs will be on summary judgment 15 motions, whatever, so that may get shortened. 16 In any event, each side is going to have 17 a timed trial so that will become known closer in t ime 18 to the trial date so there are no surprises to eith er 19 side and we amend accordingly to be consistent with the 20 realties of the case as it exists at that time. So for 21 right now I will go with the eight-day proposal. I 22 don't have any strong feelings one way or the other and 23 will err on the side of allowing more time than may 24 possibly be necessary. It's always a pleasant Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 32 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 33 of 47 PageID #: 672 1 occurrence to have the time reduced rather than 2 lengthened in my view. 3 MR. McPHIE: Understood. 4 THE COURT: Mr. Farnan graciously 5 indicated that Plaintiffs will get a scheduling ord er 6 submitted consistent with our discussion here today . 7 About how much time do you think the parties will n eed? 8 I will ask both sides to meet and confer about the 9 loose ends that need to be tied up before we have 10 another scheduling order issue. 11 MR. McPHIE: I will propose we can get 12 this wrapped up by Friday. 13 THE COURT: Is that fine with Defendants? 14 MR. CAPLAN: That will be fine. 15 THE COURT: And also, try and let 16 chambers know by Friday if the parties will be 17 requesting a discovery review conference. Again, i t's 18 not mandatory. I'm not compelling you to do that. I'm 19 sort of cautiously mentioning it and not inviting i t or 20 suggesting it, but if you think it will be helpful, I 21 will put something like that on the calendar by ora l 22 order once I hear from you. Even if you don't requ est 23 it by the end of the week, if things turn out depen ding 24 on what happens after the motions are fully briefed and Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 33 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 34 of 47 PageID #: 673 1 determined, we can re-engage in another status 2 conference if both sides believe it would be produc tive 3 and helpful to do that. 4 MR. McPHIE: Very well. 5 THE COURT: And I will address discovery 6 issues in accordance with my discovery dispute 7 procedure as they arise. With that, is there anyth ing 8 further on behalf of the Plaintiffs? 9 MR. McPHIE: Nothing further from 10 Plaintiff. 11 THE COURT: Is there -- Mr. Rovner? 12 MR. ROVNER: Your Honor, I don't have my 13 calendar in front of me. As I said, the Motion to 14 Dismiss briefing will be done in a week or two. An d in 15 the Motion to Stay, our reply brief will be due the 16 first or second week of June. 17 Do you want to schedule argument on that? 18 I guess the Motion to Stay will be more pressing 19 because that would raise questions with the schedul e. 20 THE COURT: Why don't the parties meet 21 and confer and compare calendars on that. Normally , on 22 those types of motions, I would grant a request if 23 there were to be one for oral argument. So having said 24 that, I think it's best that the parties meet and Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 34 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 35 of 47 PageID #: 674 1 confer on that point because you will be looking fo r a 2 date relatively soon I would expect and you probabl y 3 need to look at your respective calendars to see wh at 4 other proceedings are going on. 5 And if you reach out to chambers and make 6 the suggestion that we look for a date in June or J uly 7 or whenever you're suggesting that we look for the 8 date, we will try and accommodate counsel rather th an 9 trying to fiddle with all of our respective calenda rs. 10 If you're all available and I have things that are on 11 my calendar that can readily be moved to accommodat e 12 it, I will try to do that. But if it's a criminal duty 13 week and I have other things going on, it's hard fo r me 14 to say that I can lock in that date. So it's best to 15 hear from you with that request after you have met and 16 conferred. 17 MR. ROVNER: Thank you, Your Honor. 18 THE COURT: I think that takes care of 19 what we needed to accomplish here today and I thank 20 everybody for being here and for your cooperation. We 21 will be in recess. Thank you, everyone. 22 (The proceedings ended at 3:45 p.m.) 23 24 Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 35 Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-1 Filed 06/19/17 Page 36 of 47 PageID #: 675 1 C E R T I F I C A T I O N 2 I, Taneha Carroll, Professional 3 Court Reporter, certify that the foregoing is a 4 true and accurate transcript of the foregoing 5 proceeding. 6 7 I further certify that I am neither 8 attorney nor counsel for, nor related to nor 9 employed by any of the parties to the action in 10 which this proceeding was taken; further, that I am 11 not a relative or employee of any attorney or 12 counsel employed in this case, nor am I financially 13 interested in this action. 14 15 16 /s/Taneha Carroll Taneha Carroll 17 Professional Reporter and Notary Public 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Hawkins Reporting Service 715 North King Street - Wilmington, Delaware 19801 (302) 658-6697 FAX (302) 658-8418 36 Case 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SIRIUS XM RADIO INC., Defendant. C.A. No. 17-cv-00184-VAC-SRF PLAINTIFF’S INITIAL DISCLOSURE OF ACCUSED PRODUCTSAND ASSERTED PATENT CLAIMS AND ACCOMPANYING DOCUMENT PRODUCTION Pursuant to the Court’s Scheduling Order and Rule 4(a) of the Default Standard for Discovery, Including Discovery of Electronically stored Information, incorporated by reference therein, Plaintiff Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft Zur Förderung Der angewandten Forschung e.V. (“Fraunhofer”) hereby provides its initial disclosure of accused products and asserted patent claims, and accompanying document production. These initial disclosures are based upon information reasonably and presently available to Plaintiffs, without the benefit of formal discovery, production of documents, or any meaningful disclosures from Defendant Sirius XM Radio, Inc. (“Sirius”). Accordingly, Fraunhofer reserves the right, consistent with its obligations under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the Local Rules, the Court’s Scheduling Order, and the Default Standard for Discovery, Including Discovery of Electronically Stored Information, to modify, amend, retract, and/or supplement the disclosures made herein, as additional evidence and information becomes available or as otherwise appropriate. Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-2 Filed 06/19/17 Page 2 of 5 PageID #: 688 2 Patent-In- Suit Sirius – Initial Accused Products 6,314,289 DARS system operated by Sirius, including XM satellite radios and SiriusXM satellite radios 6,931,084 DARS system operated by Sirius, including XM satellite radios and SiriusXM satellite radios 6,993,084 DARS system operated by Sirius, including XM satellite radios and SiriusXM satellite radios 7,061,997 DARS system operated by Sirius, including XM satellite radios and SiriusXM satellite radios In accordance with Rule 4(a) of the Default Standard for Discovery, Including Discovery of Electronically stored Information, Fraunhofer hereby produces the file history for each asserted patent in the accompanying document production numbered F0000001 through F0003006. Fraunhofer reserves the right to modify, amend, or supplement its production as additional evidence and information becomes available or as otherwise appropriate. Dated: June 15, 2017 Respectfully submitted, FARNAN LLP /s/ Brian E. Farnan Brian E. Farnan (Bar No. 4089) Michael J. Farnan (Bar No. 5165) 919 N. Market Street, 12th Floor Wilmington, Delaware 19801 Telephone: (302) 777-0300 Facsimile: (302) 777-0301 bfarnan@farnanlaw.com mfarnan@farnanlaw.com Ben J. Yorks (admitted pro hac vice) David McPhie (admitted pro hac vice) IRELL & MANELLA, LLP 840 Newport Center Drive, Suite 400 Newport Beach, CA 92660 Telephone: (949) 760-0991 Facsimile: (949) 760-5200 byorks@irell.com Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-2 Filed 06/19/17 Page 3 of 5 PageID #: 689 3 dmcphie@irell.com Attorneys for Plaintiff Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-2 Filed 06/19/17 Page 4 of 5 PageID #: 690 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I, Brian E. Farnan, hereby certify that on June 15, 2017, a copy of Plaintiff’s Initial Disclosure of Accused Products and Asserted Patent Claims and Accompanying Document Production was served on the following as indicated: Via E-Mail Philip A. Rovner Jonathan A. Choa POTTER ANDERSON & CORROON LLP Hercules Plaza P.O. Box 951 Wilmington, DE 19899 provner@potteranderson.com jchoa@potteranderson.com Attorneys for Defendant Sirius XM Radio, Inc. Via E-Mail Jonathan S. Caplan Mark A. Baghdassarian P. Bradley O’Neill Shannon H. Hedvat KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS & FRANKEL LLP jcaplan@kramerlevin.com mbaghdassarian@kramerlevin.com boneill@kramerlevin.com shedvat@kramerlevin.com Attorneys for Defendant Sirius XM Radio, Inc. /s/ Brian E.. Farnan Brian E. Farnan (Bar No. 4089) Case 1:17-cv-00184-JFB-SRF Document 35-2 Filed 06/19/17 Page 5 of 5 PageID #: 691