Sperry Rand Corp.Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsMar 15, 1962136 N.L.R.B. 294 (N.L.R.B. 1962) Copy Citation 294 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD recommended that the Respondent cease and desist from infringing in any manner upon such rights. Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact , and upon the entire record in the case, I make the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. Local 481 , International Brotherhood of Teamsters , Chauffeurs, Warehouse- men and Helpers Union of America, is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2 (5) of the Act. 2. By discriminating in regard to the hire and tenure of employment of Frederick Allee, William Dedman , James Lee, Oren Martin , Calvin Tmtinger, and Byard Conrad, thus discouraging membership and activity in behalf of the above-named labor organization , the Respondent has engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8(a) (3) of the Act. 3. By such discrimination and by questioning employees concerning their mem- bership in a labor organization , the Respondent has interfered with, restrained, and coerced employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act, and has thereby engaged in and is engaging in unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor practices are unfair labor practices affecting com- merce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. [Recommendations omitted from publication.] Sperry Gyroscope Company, Division of Sperry Rand Corpora- tion and Engineers ' Association , International Union of Elec- trical , Radio and Machine Workers of America , Local 445, AFL-CIO, Charging Party Sperry Gyroscope Company, Division of Sperry Rand Corpora- tion and Decertification Committee , Petitioner and Engineers' Association , International Union of Electrical , Radio and Machine Workers , AFL-CIO. Cases Nos. 2-CA-7613 and 2-RD- 495. March 15, 1962 DECISION AND ORDER On December 8, 1961, Trial Examiner Stanley Gilbert issued his In- termediate Report in the above-entitled proceeding, finding that the Respondent had engaged in and was engaging in certain unfair labor practices and recommending that it cease and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative action, as set forth in the Intermediate Report at- tached hereto. Thereafter, the General Counsel, the Charging Party, the Employer, and the Petitioner filed exceptions to the Intermediate Report and supporting briefs.' The Board has reviewed the rulings of the Trial Examiner at the hearing and finds that no prejudicial error was committed? The 1 The Respondent filed a request for oral argument. Because in our opinion the record, exceptions , and briefs adequately set forth the issues and positions of parties , the request for oral argument is denied. 9 The Respondent contends the Trial Examiner erred in dismissing the Respondent's sev- eral motions for bills of particulars . We find that the Respondent has not been prejudiced by such denials . The violations found are in accord with the substance of the complaint and have been fully litigated 136 NLRB No. 45. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 295 rulings are hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Inter- mediate Report, the exceptions and briefs, and the entire record in the case, and hereby adopts the findings, conclusions, and recom- mendations of the Trial Examiner, only insofar as consistent with our decision herein. The Trial Examiner found that, by implanting in the mind of em- ployee Mervin Werst the idea of organizing a movement to oppose the affiliation of the Employees Association with the Charging Party; by encouraging him to take such action; and by advising him of the initial steps to take, Respondent did initiate the organization of the Decerti- fication Committee which evolved out of Werst's activities and in which he played a major role, and that by such conduct, Respondent interfered with employees in the exercise of their statutory rights within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. We agree, for the reasons set forth by the Trial Examiner, that the Respondent violated Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act through such activity, even assuming Werst was an employee and not a supervisor within the meaning of the Act. We therefore adopt his findings and conclusions in this regard. However, we also find that Werst was a supervisor within the mean ing of the Act, and that Respondent therefore violated Section 8 (a) (1) by participating directly in the formation of the Decertification Corrw- mittee and in its affairs through the activities of Worst, and that by such conduct Respondent initiated and fostered the filing of the de- certification petition in Case No. 2-RD-495, also in violation of the Act.' For support of our supervisory finding, we rely on the record evi- dence of the following facts : Werst headed the field shop of Respond- ent's USD-7 project, directing the work of 12 employees. The field shop was one of four sections of the USD-7 project, two of which were headed by section heads who were admittedly supervisors. Doersam, the project director, testified that Werst was an acting section head, and that he had responsibility for the initial planning of the field shop equipment needed to perform the work of the section; for sched- uling the engineering work; for estimating the number and caliber of engineers needed; for recruiting engineers and making sure that they were available to him at appropriate times; for assigning specific tasks and for generally organizing their work; for working with them providing necessary technical assistance; and for making progress re- ports to Doersam and to Sperry's customers. We think it obvious that performance of such functions constitutes more than routine direction of subordinates and that it involves the responsible direction of the work of other employees. That Worst did function as Doersam described is shown by the fact of his partici- pation in the recruitment program for the USD-7 project; and by a Birmingham Publishing Company, 118 NLRB 1380 296 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Doersams' notification to employees assigned to work under Werst that they were to look to Werst for technical and administrative di- rection. As to the first, the record clearly reveals that Respondent's policy was that recruitment of personnel was a function to be per- formed by supervisory personnel. Werst, though holding a nonsuper- visory job classification, was assigned such duties by Doersam. His performance of such duties took him on trips to various places around the country, where, as Respondent's representative, he interviewed applicants, eliminating those who he determined were not qualified, and submitting reports to Doersam as to his impressions and observa- tions concerning others. The record shows that these reports included recommendations both as to salaries and placement in Sperry's opera- tions. On the basis of these reports and on discussions with Werst, Doersam submitted offer memorandums of employment to the employ- ment office recommending hire. The record shows that Werst inter- viewed more applicants for employment than anyone else involved in the USD-7 project and that at least 25 engineers came to work for Sperry as a result of recommendations initially made by Werst. The foregoing amply demonstrates that, pursuant to delegation of author- ity from Doersam, Werst exercised authority to effectively recommend the hire of applicants, and effectively rejected applicants for employment. As to the second, there is the evidence of General Counsel's Exhibit No. 5, a directive from Doersam to all USD-7 personnel announcing that three engineers were being taken off other tasks and assigned to work in the field shop, and directing them to report to Werst for tech- nical and administrative direction. There is also the testimony of Philip Bila that when he was assigned to the USD-7 project, Doersam told him that if he wanted anything he was to go to Werst for it, and that this included requests for time off and for merit increases. Bila testified that Werst did grant him time off and that when he inquired of Werst about the possibility of a merit raise, Werst discussed the situ- ation with him, reviewed his experience, and made him feel pretty good about his chances and later informed him that he would receive the raise. Based on the foregoing, we conclude that lVerst did in fact exercise both technical and administrative direction over employees working under him, and that he did so pursuant to authority delegated to him by Doersam. While it is true that Werst had been recommended for the position of section head, but had not received the promotion, it is the exercise of supervisory authority and not the title a person holds that is controlling. On the basis of the foregoing, we conclude that Werst was a supervisor within the meaning of the Act during the events involved in this case. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP . 297 THE REMEDY We shall order Respondent to cease and desist from engaging in the conduct we have found to be violative of Section 8(a) (1) or in any like or related conduct. Additionally, as we have found that Re- spondent unlawfully initiated and sponsored the decertification peti- tion in Case No. 2-RC-495, and as it is well settled that the petition by reason of such conduct cannot be said to have raised a question concerning representation,' we shall in accordance with our usual prac- tice order that the petition be dismissed, and that all proceedings on that petition be vacated and set aside and declared a nullity.' ORDER Upon the foregoing findings of fact and conclusions of law, and upon the entire record in this proceeding, the Board orders that the Respondent, Sperry Gyroscope Company, Division of Sperry Rand Corporation, its officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall: 1. Cease and desist from instigating or encouraging the organiza- tion of a movement to decertify the Engineers' Association, or any other union which is the recognized or certified bargaining representa- tive for a unit of its employees, and from engaging in any like or related conduct constituting interference, restraint, or coercion of employees in violation of Section 8(a) (1) of the Act. 2. Cease and desist from interfering with the decertification move- ment, or engaging in any like or related conduct, through the partici- pation of supervisory personnel. 3. Take the following affirmative action which the Board finds will effectuate the policies of the Act : ' We reject the contentions of Respondent and of the Decertification Petitioner that the decisions in North Electric Company, 129 NLRB 675, and Boggs and Company, Inc, 122 NLRB 758, preclude the Board from dismissing the petition . The first case did not involve an invalid petition, and is distinguishable on that grounds The second case involved un- timely objections filed by an employer who could not have raised the same issue in an un- fair labor practice because it could not file a charge against itself . While it is true that the Board will dismiss a decertification petition on the basis of timely filed objections as to employer initiation and sponsoring of the petition , it could not there allow an employer to profit by its own wrongdoing , when its employees had, notwithstanding such wrong- doing, voted contrary to the employer 's desires Accordingly , as the petition herein was a nullity , we shall dismiss it Cf Reliance Steel Products Company, 135 NLRB 730. Paul M. O'Neill International Detective Agency, Inc ., 124 NLRB 167. c We have been officially advised that on March 1 , 1962, Respondent filed a petition in Case No . 2-RM-1199 ( not published in NLRB volumes ), for an election in the same unit involved in Case No. 2-RD-495. The Regional Director has requested the Board 's advice as to whether it is proper to proceed on the petition , the contract between Respondent and the Charging Party having a termination date of March 14, 1962 . The Board does not conduct elections during the pendency of unwaived unfair labor practices involving employees in the bargaining unit in which the election is sought Nor does it conduct such elections prior to the time that the effect of such unfair labor practice as have been found by the Board have been dissipated. Accordingly , the Board sees no objection to the processing of the RM petition at such time as the Regional Director has received notice that Respondent intends to and will comply with the provisions of our Order herein. Such processing may include the holding of such hearings as may be necessary , but an elec- tion shall not be held prior to the expiration of the period during which the notice pro- vided herein must be posted. 298 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD (a) Post at all of its plants, copies of the notice attached hereto marked "Appendix." 6 Copies of said notice, to be furnished by the Regional Director for the Second Region, shall, after being duly signed by the Respondent's representative, be posted by it immediately upon receipt thereof, and be maintained by it for at least 60 consecu- tive days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respondent to insure that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. (b) Notify the Regional Director for the Second Region, in writ- ing, within 10 days from the receipt of this Order, what steps the Respondent has taken to comply herewith. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the petition filed in Case No. 2-RD-495 be, and the same hereby is, dismissed, and that all proceedings on that petition be vacated and set aside and declared a nullity. 6In the event that this Order is enforced by a decree of a United States Court of Appeals, there shall be substituted for the words "Pursuant to a Decision and Order" the words "Pursuant to a Decree of the United States Court of Appeals, Enforcing an Order." APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES Pursuant to a Decision and Order of the National Labor Relations Board, and in order to effectuate the policies of the National Labor Relations Act, we hereby notify our employees that : WWE WILL NOT instigate or encourage the organization of a movement of decertify the Engineers' Association, International Union of Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, Local 445, AFL-CIO, or any other union which is the recognized or certified bargaining representative for a unit of our employees, or engage in any like or related conduct constituting interference, restraint, or coercion of employees in violation of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act. WE WILL NOT interfere with the decertification movement or engage in any like or related conduct through the participation of supervisory personnel. SPERRY GYROSCOPE COMPANY, DIVISION OF SPERRY RAND CORPORATION, Employer. Dated---------------- By------------------------------------- (Representative) (Title) This notice must remain posted for 60 days from the date hereof, and must not be altered, defaced, or covered by any other material. Employees may communicate directly with the Board's Regional Office (745 Fifth Avenue, New York, New York; Telephone Number, Plaza 1-5500) if they have any question concerning this notice or compliance with its provisions. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. INTERMEDIATE REPORT AND RECOMMENDED ORDER 299 STATEMENT OF THE CASE This proceeding, with all parties represented by counsel, was heard before Stanley Gilbert, the duly designated Trial Examiner, in New York, New York, on the fol- lowing dates: March 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 23, 24, 27, 28, and 29; April 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 20, 21, 25, 26, and 27; May 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 16, 17, and 18; and June 5, 1961. In the Board's order directing hearing in Case No. 2-RD-495, issued March 8, 1961, the steps leading to the consolidated hearing of the above cases are succinctly stated as follows: On September 8, 1960, pursuant to a "Stipulation for Certification upon Consent Election" entred into by the parties hereto on August 4, 1960, an elec- tion by secret ballot was conducted in the above-entitled proceeding under the direction and supervision of the Regional Director for the Second Region (New York, New York). Upon the conclusion of the election a Tally of Ballots was furnished the parties in accordance with the Rules and Regulations of the Board. The tally of Ballots shows that there were approximately 3500 eligible voters and that 3237 ballots were cast, of which 1509 were for the Union, 1724 were against the Union, 3 were challenged and 1 was void. On September 13, 1960, the Union filed timely Objections to Election and on October 13, 1960, filed unfair labor practice charges in Case No. 2-CA-7613.1 The Regional Director caused an investigation and an independent inquiry to be made of the objections and thereafter, on October 31, 1960, issued and duly served upon the parties his Report on Objections. In his report the Regional Director recommended to the Board that a hearing be held on Objection 4 and that such hearing be consolidated with the hearing in Case No. 2-CA-7613 involving the same issues; that the issues involved in Objection 2 be made a part of the consolidated proceeding herein; and that the Union's request to with- draw Objections 1, 3, 5 and 6 be approved. On November 14, 1960, the Petitioner filed exceptions, with supporting memorandum, to the Regional Director's report, in which it urged that the objections to the election be overruled or, in the alternative, that the Board remand the Report to the Regional Director for the preparation of a new Report on Objections, or refuse consolidation of hearings on the objections to election with the unfair labor practice charges in Case No. 2-CA-7613. On November 15, 1960, the Employer filed exceptions to the Regional Di- rector's report, and on November 28, 1960, a supplement thereto, urging im- mediate action on the Regional Director's Report on Objections and the exceptions thereto. On December 15, 1960, the Regional Director issued a Supplemental Report on Objections in which he advised that a settlement agreement with the Em- ployer was approved in Case No 2-CA-7613 and recommended that a hearing be held in the instant case on objections 2 and 4. Thereafter, on December 28, 1960, the Employer filed exceptions to the Regional Director's supplemental report. On February 17, 1961, the Regional Director issued his Second Supplemental Report on Objections in which he stated that his approval of the Settlement Agreement and dismissal of the charge in Case No. 2-CA-7613 was appealed to the General Counsel by the Charging Party, and that the appeal was sus- tained, the charge reinstated and a complaint issued thereon. The Regional Director recommended that the Board direct that a hearing be held on Objections 2 and 4 and that such hearing be consolidated with the hearing in Case No 2-CA-7613. On February 27, 1961, the Petitioner and the Employer filed exceptions to the Regional Director's Second Supplemental Report on Objections. The Board having duly considered the matter, and it appearing to the Board that the Union's Objections 2 and 4, the Regional Director's findings and rec- ommendations, and the Employer's and the Petitioner's exceptions raise sub- stantial and material issues which may best be resolved by a hearing. IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Union's request to withdraw its Objections 1, 3, 5 and 6 be, and it hereby is, granted; and 1 Based on these charges, a complaint was issued on October 31, 1960 On November 22, 1960, an amended complaint was issued, and then on February 15, 1961, a second amended complaint was issued 300 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a hearing be held before a Trial Examiner, to be designated by the Chief Trial Examiner, to resolve the issues raised by Objections 2 and 4 and that such hearing may be consolidated with the hearing on the charges filed in Case No. 2-CA-7613; Thus, the issues litigated in Case No. 2-CA-7613 (hereinafter referred to as the CA case) were framed by the second amended complaint, as amended during the course of the hearing,2 hereinafter referred to as the complaint, and the Respondent's answer thereto denying the violations of Section 8(a)( I) of the Act as alleged, and in Case No. 2-RD-495 (hereinafter referred to as the RD case) by objections Nos. 2 and 4. At the close of the hearing all parties presented oral argument which I requested be limited to statements by the various parties of what they considered the isuses to be and their contentions with regard thereto. All of the parties filed briefs within the time allowed therefor. Upon the entire record in this case, and from my observation of the witnesses, I make the following: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. THE BUSINESS OF RESPONDENT (IN THE CA CASE) AND EMPLOYER (IN THE RD CASE) Sperry Rand Corporation is a Delaware corporation of which Sperry Gyroscope Company (Respondent and Employer) is a division and a wholly owned subsidiary. All references hereinafter to Respondent Sperry or Company are intended to be to the Sperry Gyroscope Company. Sperry maintains its principal office and place of business at Great Neck, county of Nassau, New York, and is engaged, there and in other plants and places of business in the State of New York, in the manufacture, sale, and distribution of electronic systems and instruments and related products. During the year preceding the date of issuance of the complaint, which period I find to be representative, Sperry, in the course and conduct of its business, purchased and caused to be transported to its main plant from States of the United States other than New York goods and material valued in excess of $1,000,000. During the same period, Sperry manufactured, sold, and distributed from its main plant prod- ucts valued in excess of $2,000,000 of which products of a value in excess of $2,000,000 had a substantial impact on national defense and of which products in excess of $1,000,000 were shipped from said plant directly to States other than New York. Therefore, I find, as is admitted by it, that Sperry is an employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act. H. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED Engineers' Association, International Union of Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America, Local 445, AFL-CIO, is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act. III. FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUES IN THE CA AND RD CASES Sequence of events Since 1946 the Engineers' Association, as an independent union, has represented a bargaining unit comprised of technical and engineering employees in Sperry plants located in Great Neck, Nassau County, and other places in New York State. In 1958, the Engineers' Association entered into a collective-bargaining agreement with Sperry with respect to the unit, which numbered approximately 3,500 during the periods material hereto. The agreement provided that it was not to expire until March 14, 1962. It also provided that no affiliation by the Engineers' Association with an international union which represents production and maintenance employees shall be effective unless approved by a majority vote of the unit. In March 1960, the Engineers' Association announced a proposal to affiliate with the International 2 Paragraphs numbered S and 9 of the second amended complaint, besides containing references to certain supervisors and dates, referred to "other" supervisors and to "other dates presently unknown." On March 16, the fourth day of the hearing, the Trial Ex- aminer granted motions of General Counsel over objection of Respondent to amend the complaint by adding the names of George Lober and Thomas Hirschberg to those super- visors named in said paragraphs However, on April 10, the 16th day of the hearing, a similar motion with respect to Supervisor Rodney Krecht was denied. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 301 Union of Electrical , Radio and Machine Workers, AFL-CIO,3 and in April 1960, that a vote of its members with respect thereto would be held on May 2, 1960. On April 29, 1960, Sperry brought action in the Supreme Court of the State of New York for an injunction to enforce the provision of the contract requiring a vote of the bargaining unit , and obtained a temporary restraining order. Thereafter, the Engineers ' Association had the action removed to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, the restraining order remaining in effect . By a vote of its members at meetings of the Engineers ' Association , both on May 2 and 9 , 1960, resolutions for affiliation were adopted subject to the provisions required by the restraining order. On May 24, 1960, Sperry submitted to the district court a motion for preliminary injunction to require a bargaining unit vote. At the end of the first week of June 1960, an "Open Letter to Alert Engineers and Other Professionals " signed "The Decertification Committee" was distributed seeking signatures on attached cards authorizing the committee to file a decertification pe- tition . Among other things, the letter stated: The fullest participation in the petition and the election is the best way to demonstrate opposition to the affiliation policy of the E.A. Such proof of the protest is a primary objective of the committee. In a postscript , contributions to cover the cost of the "effort " were invited. A few days later a second leaflet was distributed by the committee (hereinafter referred to as the DC) in which it was stated , "a large petition response will indicate our protest against this affiliation ." Also, this leaflet named 19 members of the steering committee of the DC including that of Mervin Werst who served as one of its co- chairmen . A considerable portion of the record in this proceeding is devoted to testimony with respect to the activities of Werst , whether or not he was a super- visor, and whether or not he was an agent of Sperry in the decertification movement. On June 14, 1960, the district court denied Sperry's request for a temporary in- junction . The next day , the Engineers ' Association ( hereinafter also referred to as the EA) received its charter as Local 445 of the IUE. Through the remainder of the month of June , the DC distributed several leaflets urging the members of the unit to join with it in seeking decertification of the EA stating that it would not proceed to decertification if the EA disaffiliated from the IUE. On July 19, 1960, the DC filed its petition for decertification and a formal hearing was held thereon at the National Labor Relations Board 's Regional Offices on August 4, 1960 . At that meeting all parties entered into a stipulation for certification upon consent election to be held on September 8, 1960 , which agreement was approved by the Acting Regional Director. A considerable amount of literature on the subject of the election was distributed, during the period between August 4 and September 8, by the EA, the DC, and Sperry.4 The election on September 8 resulted in a vote of 1,724 to 1,509 against the EA. The Issues A. In the CA case The issues in the CA case are framed by paragraphs Nos. 8 , 9, and 10 of the complaint 5 and Sperry 's denial of the allegations therein (with certain exceptions). 3 Which does represent production and maintenance employees 'Also by other groups which are not, however, involved in this proceeding. 5 The paragraphs read : 8. On or about May 25, and May 31, 1960, and on various other dates presently un- known during the months of May, June, July, August, and September 1960, Respond- ent, by its agents and supervisors Doersam, McMorrow, Werst, Lobert and Hirschberg and others, working in concert with them, initiated, sponsored and encouraged the organization and formation of a committee known as the Decertification Committee, to institute proceedings to decertify Local 445 and to eliminate said union as the collective bargaining agent of Respondent's employees at the main plant and Respond- ent assisted said Decertification Committee in said objective by urging Respondent's employees at the main plant to support the committee and to refrain from adhering to Local 445. 9. On or about June 6, 1960, and on various other dates presently unknown during the months of May, June, July, August, and September 1960, Respondent, by its agents and supervisors Doersam, Werst, Lober and Hirschberg, and others working in concert with them, permitted various employees to suspend their work at the main plant and 302 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD In essence, paragraph No. 8 states that, by its agents and supervisors, Doersam, McMorrow, Werst, Lober, and Hirschberg, Respondent initiated, sponsored, and encouraged the organization and formation of the DC and assisted it by urging employees to support it. Respondent admits that it "urged" its employees "to sup- port" the DC and "to refrain from adhering to" the EA during the period from August 4 to September 8, 1960. Respondent moved to strike the word "encouraged" from the first portion of this paragraph and that portion of the paragraph with respect to "urging" on the ground that such conduct would not constitute unfair labor practices within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Ruling thereon was reserved which I now make in order to enable a clearer discussion herein of the appropriate issues that were litigated. The motion with respect to the word "en- couraged" is denied, since I am of the opinion that the word in the context in which it is used can conceivably embrace conduct which would constitute interference with- in the purview of Section 8(a)(1). While I also deny the motion with respect to the latter portion of this paragraph, I do so with certain limitations, based, in part, upon my understanding of General Counsel's position as stated in opposition to the motion. I consider this portion of the paragraph as dependent on the portion which precedes it, for, should it be found that Respondent "initiated, sponsored, and encouraged the organization and formation" of the DC in violation of Section 8(a)(1), I believe that there may be a question of whether the "urging" constituted interference within the purview of said section of the Act. Respondent admits that all those named in this paragraph had supervisory status except Werst. The issues were litigated whether Werst was a supervisor or acted as Sperry's agent in the "organization and formation" of the DC. It is clear that Werst played a leading role in the organization and formation of the DC. Thus, the follow- ing questions must be determined with respect to paragraph No. 8 of the complaint: 1. Was Werst a supervisor? 2. Was Werst acting as an agent of Sperry in the part he played in the organization and formation of the DC? 3. Did Respondent through any of the men named initiate, sponsor, and encourage the organization and formation of the DC? In essence, paragraph No. 9 alleges that Respondent, through its agents and super- visors, Doersam, Werst, Lober, and Hirschberg, permitted "employees" to suspend work to conduct DC business and paid them for time so spent. Considerable testi- mony was elicited with respect to whether Werst spent working hours on DC busi- ness, and whether it was done with his supervisors' permission. This testimony was relevant to the issue of whether Werst was acting as Sperry's agent, as alleged in para- graph No. 8, and also as alleged in paragraph No. 10 of the complaint. It was also received with respect to the allegation in paragraph No. 9, should it be determined that Werst was not a supervisor but within the category of "employees." Thus the following questions must be determined with respect to paragraph No. 9. J. Did any of the named supervisors permit employees to suspend work in order to conduct DC business and were they paid by Sperry for the time so spent? 2. If such permission and payment were granted to Werst, was he a supervisor (or an "employee")? 3. If there were such permission and payment, were they granted on a discrimi- natory basis? In essence, paragraph No. 10 of the complaint alleges that Respondent, by its agent and supervisor, Werst, actively participated in the affairs of the DC and con- tributed financial and "other support" to the decertification movement. Thus, with respect to this paragraph it is necessary to determine the following questions: 1. Was Werst a supervisor? 2. Was Werst acting as an agent of Respondent in his efforts on behalf of the DC. 3. Did the Respondent contribute financial and "other support" to the decerti- fication movement? 6 to conduct business on behalf of the Decertification Committee , and paid such em- ployees for the time spent on such activities 10 On or about June 6, 1960 , and on various dates presently unknown during the months of May, June, July , August, and September 1960 Respondent , by its agent and supervisor Werst and others working in concert with him actively participated in the administration , meetings of and affairs of the Decertification Committee and con- tributed financial and other support to the movement among Respondent ' s employees at the main plant to decertify Local 445 e This, of course , would not embrace such support as would fall within the purview of Section 8(c). SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 303 B. In the RD case Objections Nos. 2 and 4 filed by the EA to the election on September 8, frame the issues in the RD case. Objection No. 2 states: During the 24-hour period preceding the election and while the election was in progress, supervisory employees called bargaining unit employees into private offices where two or three supervisors would discuss the Union vote with em- ployees and question them as to their intentions with regard to the election. Additional electioneering was conducted by other supervisors throughout the plant on September 7th and 8th. With respect to objection No. 2, I refused to take testimony as to interviews not within the period of time specified in the objection or which did not take place within "private offices." I felt that to do otherwise would have expanded the inquiry into matters beyond those which the Board directed the hearing encompass. I also re- fused to take testimony with respect to the second sentence of the objection. Based on an examination of the Regional Director's report on objections and the Board's order directing hearing, I was, and still am, of the opinion that the Regional Director apparently had found no evidence in support of this sentence of the objection, and that the Board did not intend that the hearing embrace any of the many matters which could fall within the vague language of this sentence. By imposing the afore- said limitations I felt not only that I was adhering to the Board's directive, but also preventing the unnecssary taking of a large body of testimony and litigating of issues as to matters within bounds extremely indefinite in terms of both time and nature. General Counsel stated at the hearing that the interviews referred to in this objec- tion are not alleged in the complaint as violative of Section 8 (a) (1) and made no attempt to amend the complaint in order to include the interviews. During the course of the hearing I ruled that the evidence adduced with respect to this objection will not be considered in the CA case so as to expand the issues framed by complaint therein and answer thereto. In so ruling I stated that "I will not, by requiring Respondent to litigate R issues, say that he therefore had litigated them as C issues ." Therefore, I will disregard the contentions made by General Counsel in his brief, that Sperry violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by supervisors ' interviews of employees. Therefore , the issues raised by objection No. 2 do not coincide in any respect with the issues in the CA case. Objection No. 4 states: "The Company financed the activity of the Decertification Committee and of observers designated to act in its behalf." This relates to conduct of the Company between August 4 and September 8, 1960 (the period between the agreement to hold the election and the election itself), by the very terms of the objections to election.7 Thus, the issues raised by this objection coincide to some extent with the issues raised by paragraphs Nos. 9 and 10 of the complaint, but not with respect to conduct of Respondent prior to August 4, 1960. In order to determine the above issues in the CA and RD cases, I will consider hereinbelow the following subjects: 1. Was Werst a supervisor? 2. Events preceding the organization and formation of the DC. 3. The organization and formation of the DC. 4. Was Werst an agent of Sperry in the organization and formation of the DC? 5. Did Respondent "initiate, sponsor, and encourage the organization and for- mation" of the DC? 6. The conduct alleged in paragraph No. 9 of the complaint. 7. The conduct alleged in paragraph No. 10 of the complaint. ,8. The conduct alleged in objection No. 2. 9. The conduct alleged in objection No. 4. 10. Conclusions as to the CA case. 11. Conclusions as to the RD case. Since the issues in the CA case and RD case coincide only to a limited extent, I will frame my conclusions with respect to the allegations in the CA case separately 7 Although objection No 6 was withdrawn, that portion of it must still be considered which states that all of the objections including objection No 4 relate to this period. Undoubtedly this was predicated on the Board policy enunciated in F W Woolworth Company, 109 NLRB 1446, 1448, that it will not consider with respect to objections to an election, matters occurring prior to the decision and direction of election (or, as in this case, the execution of an agreement that the election be held) 304 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD from those with respect to the objections in the RD case. The Deming Company, 107 NLRB 1100. 1. Was Werst a supervisor? Sperry's USD-7 project began February 1958 with five people assigned to it, including Charles Doersam , project engineer and admittedly a supervisor , and Mervin Werst . The project rose to a peak employment of approximately 50 engineers many of whom were "recruited" from the "outside" ( i.e., outside the ranks of Sperry employees ) principally during the period from September 1958 to March 1959. Among the ways Sperry obtained employees from the outside was by advertising for engineers in various localities and then sending representatives to interview applicants. The project was divided into four segments . I use the term "segments" rather than the terms "sections" or "groups ," since the latter terms carry with them certain connotations arising out of their use in job classifications, such as "engi- neering section head ," or in the description of a function , such as "group leader." An engineering section head is admittedly a supervisory position and is the lowest job classification falling within the supervisory echelons according to the collective- bargaining agreement between EA and Sperry . Sperry's "General Standing Practice Instructions" placed engineering section heads within "Code B" which gave them certain prescribed administrative authority . While General Counsel would not take any position on the question of whether the job classification of "senior engineer" (just below that of engineering section head ) embraced duties indicative of super- visory character, it is clear that it is not contended that an employee is a super- visor by reason of having such classification .8 The term "group leader" is used to describe a function within the operations of a project and it is clear that the designation of an employee as a group leader has no bearing on the question of whether he is or is not a supervisor. During the periods material to this proceeding , Werst had the job classification of senior engineer and was designated as a group leader . He "headed" that seg- ment of the USD-7 project called Field Shop Equipment (hereinafter referred to as the field shop ). Of the other three segments , at the time material to this pro- ceeding, one was "headed up" by an employee who was also a senior engineer and group leader , and the two others by employees who had the job classification of engineering section head . Werst and the two engineering section heads were with the project virtually from its beginning . When they entered into their work on the project , they were senior engineers , but thereafter were recommended for promotion to section head . Werst , however , was not given the promotion. General Counsel and the EA contend that it is appropriate to conclude that Werst was a supervisor , by virtue of his activities with respect to recruiting and the extent of the authority he exercised as head of the field shop. During the years 1958 and 1959 , Werst participated in the recruiting program by interviewing applicants in the plant and on various trips. It was apparently the policy of Sperry to use for recruiting trips only employees in recognized super- visory job classifications , but "in a pinch" a senior engineer could be used. Werst participated in four or five recruiting trips because Doersam arranged to have Werst act as a substitute for him . It appears that he went on these trips to accommodate Doersam who wished to avoid taking them. It is contended that in Werst's recruiting activities he exercised power "to effec- tively recommend for hire," one of the indicia of supervisory status. By interview- ing applicants he accomplished a screening of those engineers who might be of interest to Sperry and upon his return he reported to Doersam the result of his interviews . There is some confusion and contradiction in the testimony as to what practice was followed in his reporting and the action taken as a result , but it is clear that whatever action was taken by Sperry with respect to hiring was predicated on an offer memorandum to the employment office. It is also clear that officially the offer memorandums with respect to applicants interviewed by Werst were initi- ated by Doersam in the sense that he was in the lowest echelon of those whose initials or signatures appeared thereon. While there is some confusion in the record as to whether or not Werst had any hand in drafting offer memorandums, I am of the opinion that the recommendation it contained was essentially , as well as officially, Doersam 's, albeit it may have been predicated on the facts and impressions Werst reported to him. In view of this, of the sporadic nature of Werst 's recruiting activity, of the fact that it was not a normal function of his job, and of the fact that 8 Respondent , in its brief, points out that almost 500 members of the bargaining unit of approximately 3,500 held the job classification of senior engineer SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 305 it ceased sometime in 1959 , approximately a year prior to the periods material to this proceeding, I am not persuaded Werst could reasonably be considered to have been within the echelons of management at the time pertinent hereto because of the functions he performed in Sperry 's recruiting program. It is also contended that Werst could appropriately be considered to have had supervisory status because of the authority he exercised in heading the field shop. The testimony with respect to the duties he performed in carrying out the mission of his phase of the project ( except for references to certain administrative aspects, which I discuss hereinbelow ) does not indicate that he did anything not embraced within the job description of senior engineer , a classification which , as heretofore stated , was not considered by EA and Sperry as being supervisory . The record and the cases 9 indicate that in industry employing engineers the exercise by an engi- neer of duties such as those performed by Werst ( of planning , assigning , and direct- ing the work of other engineers subordinate to him ) is not considered to align him with management . It appears that his relationship to his subordinates is not con- sidered to be that of supervisor to rank -and-file employees , but that of a more experienced professional employee to less experienced professional employees. Further, it is contended that Werst exercised certain administrative functions which were within the prerogatives of only those occupying supervisory positions. First, it is contended that he successfully recommended a merit increase . Philip Bila, one of the engineers working under Werst's direction , testified that Doersam suggested to him that, if he had any questions regarding merit increases, to see Werst, which he did , and that Werst reviewed his experience with him and made him "feel pretty good about my chances in the department ." Bila further testified to a subsequent conversation with Werst: "He [Werst] tipped me off that I was put in for a raise. That one could be expected ." The record does not, to my mind, demonstrate what role, if any, Werst played in effecting Bila's merit increase (which I will assume he received , although it is not clear it was given effect). The record only indicates that Doersam told Bila that he could get information about merit increases from Werst , that Werst expressed a favorable opinion about his chances, and later passed onto him , information that he was going to get a raise prior to official communication of the fact. Doersam testified that Werst approved "PR time." 10 However , approval of PR time could only be given by persons having at least code B authority which Werst did not have and which , Doersam testified , he could not give him. PR time is entered by an employee on his weekly timesheet showing to what accounts his time for the week should be charged , such as to what project, sick leave, PR, etc. The timesheets required the signature of a supervisor for approval , and payment of salary to an employee was based on his timesheet . Bila testified to two occasions when Werst told him he "could have the time off," that it was "all right." Thomas McPartland , who was also an engineer in the field shop , testified that he obtained permission from Doersam for PR time , but told Werst "out of courtesy ." While Werst may have told Bila that it was "all right" to take PR time, his permission still required the approval of a supervisor's signature on the timesheet . In any event, the record does not disclose that it was the practice for field shop employees to request permission of Werst for PR time, but only that on two occasions one employee obtained oral approval from Werst. I cannot conclude from merely these two incidents that Werst was a supervisor in that he exercised the supervisory authority to do so. I cannot conclude that, because on two occasions , he exercised authority which he did not have ( apparently with success ), he acquired such author- ity or could generally have been believed to have. Doersam testified that Werst was designated as an "acting section head" and per- formed all the duties of a section head in accordance with a practice at Sperry of having an employee do so prior to his promotion to that classification. The record discloses that there is no such classification at Sperry as acting section head. No witness testified that he had heard Werst referred to as an acting section head and several who were in the project could not recall any such reference had ever been made . The existence of the practice of having an employee perform the duties of a section head prior to his promotion thereto was denied and Doersam could not satisfactorily explain how Werst could perform the supervisory duties of a sec- tion head without having the code authority therefor . Furthermore , there were e Sonotone Corporation, 90 NLRB 1236 , 1239; Pennsylvania Power & Light Company, 122 NLRB 293. 1° "Personal reasons time " Professional employees had a quota of a certain number of days per annum which they could use for personal reasons without loss of pay , provided their absence had been previously approved by a "supervisor " 306 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD periodic "staff meetings" of the supervisory personnel in the department to which project USD-7 was assigned of which minutes were kept. The minutes indicate who attended the meetings and to whom copies were routed. It appears that the two engineering section heads attended these meetings and copies of the minutes were routed to them as well as to the other who attended. The minutes do not show that Werst attended these meetings or that copies of the minutes were routed to him. This further persuades me that it cannot be concluded that Werst was "acting" as a section head In conclusion, I am of the opinion that there is not a sufficient basis for finding that Werst was a supervisor within the meaning of the Act. 2. Events preceding the organization and formation of the DC a. Doersam's conversations with McMorrow William McMorrow, Sperry's employee relations representative, testified, as to conversations he had with Doersam (the first, sometime in April 1960, and several during the workweek between May 2 to 6, 1960). Doersam testified with respect to several conversations in the same workweek in May. There is no substantial conflict in their testimony except with respect to a few important details which are discussed in the course of the narration of what, I believe, their testimony revealed. McMorrow testified that during April 1960, in the course of consulting with various supervisors for the purpose of obtaining information as to the sentiment of employees with respect to the proposed affiliation of the EA with the IUE, McMorrow sought out Doersam whom he knew "as ^a supervisor who was relatively free in his discussions with employees such as the EA situation." Doersam asked McMorrow what the Company could do to prevent the affiliation which Doersam felt was strongly opposed by members of the bargaining unit. McMorrow explained that the only thing the Company could do would be to seek to uphold the contract provision for a vote by the bargaining unit "through legal action," the outcome of which could not be predicted, and that anything else would have to be done by the employees themselves. Among the actions which he indicated the employees could take was the circulation of a petition to the National Labor Relations Board which, if signed by 30 percent of the unit, might accomplish various results (". . . they . . . might succeed in forming another union, having no union at all, or they could use .the threat of such future action on the EA leadership to per- suade them to drop their affiliation plans.") 11 McMorrow told Doersam that although he had information which indicated employee opposition to the affiliation he had no information whether any "employee movements had started." He asked Doersam whether he knew if any of his employees were involved in such a move- ment. When Doersam replied that he did not, McMorrow asked him "to keep his ear to the ground," and, if he picked up any information as to what his employees were doing, to relay it to him. He cautioned Doersam that, as a supervisor, he had to use care in speaking to the employees so as not to become "involved." He also told Doersam that Sperry "would prefer that the employees chose not to become affiliated with the CIO." Both testified that they had three telephone conversations during the first work- week of May 1960.12 A comparison of their testimony with respect to the substance of their conversations discloses every variation between and including complete corroboration and absolute contradiction . In attempting to reconstruct what was said I have neither accepted nor discredited either of them wholly,is but have ac- cepted or discredited each of them insofar as their testimony conforms or does not conform to the summation of what I have found to have been said . I have not attempted to separate what was said in each conversation , except with respect to the last to which McMorrow testified, since it does not appear it would serve any material purpose and they were all within 'a comparatively brief span of time. n The quotations are from McMorrow's testimony. ii Although each testified to three conversations, their testimony is at variance not only with respect to substance but also somewhat in point of time, Le , in relation to events The second and third conversations to which Doersam testified appear to correspond to what McMorrow testified as being the second conversation This conflict may be explained by the fact that, according to Doersam's testimony, there was only a short interval between the second and third conversations to which he testified. I do not consider this as of any material significance. Doersam did not testify as to the last conversation to which McMorrow testified. 32N.L.R.B. v. Universal Camera Corporation, 179 F 2d 749 (CA 2). SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 307 The conversations were initiated by Doersam, who called McMorrow, shortly after learning that the Company had instituted legal action to require a unit vote on affiliation, and asked him what effect the Company's action would have on the affiliation. McMorrow was not optimistic in his prognosis as to its effectiveness. Doersam then asked him what had developed with respect to employees' movements in opposition to the affiliation (to which possible action McMorrow had referred in their previous conversation in mid-April). McMorrow told him that the best hope of preventing the affiliation would be such action by the employees, but that, while there was evidence of their dissatisfaction, there was no leader to organize them so that the matter of affiliation could, through a petition to the National Labor Rela- tions Board, be brought to a vote of the entire bargaining unit instead of only the EA members. Doersam volunteered that he had in mind two men in his department who might be willing to attempt to organize the dissatisfied elements and asked McMorrow if it, would be appropriate for him to talk to them about taking an active role in organizing the affiliation opposition.14 McMorrow cautioned Doersam to talk on a "man-to-man basis," so as to avoid giving the "impression" that he or the Company "was in any way intending to become involved in any employee group activity which was transpiring, that might transpire," that "such movements had to be spontaneous movements and not inspired by the Company and that his conversa- tions on this subject should be held in that light." 15 McMorrow testified that thereafter Doersam reported that "he had talked to one of the employees named Pollak and that though Mr. Pollak was unhappy about the affiliation movement, he was not going to do anything about it." Doersam testified that he talked with Pollak, but that Pollak was not interested in taking any active organizing role and that he reported his "progress or lack of progress" to McMorrow. McMorrow testified, further, that Doersam informed him that he planned to talk to Werst, but that Werst was not at the plant,16 that he told Doersam "that if he talked to Mr. Werst and found out any information, to give me a call " He also testified that Doersam told him that Werst was "an organizing type of individual" and that was the reason he "thought he might be engaged in such activity." However, Werst had been absent from the plant on a trip to the west coast for which he left on April 24, so that I am of the opinion that a discussion with him most likely was planned not for the purpose of determining what Werst had been doing about the problem but rather whether he would be willing to take some action. He could not have been doing anything about the problem while on his trip. This would tend to bear out Doersam's testimony that he advised McMorrow of his belief 'that Werst was a good "candidate" for assuming leadership. Toward the end of the same week Werst returned to the plant, and in conversation with him Doersam learned that he was interested in taking action to prevent the affiliation.17 McMorrow testified that Doersam called him to report "that it ap- peared to him that Mr. Werst was taking some type of action or about to take such a type of action . . . action in opposition to affiliation." He further testified that Doersam said Werst had some legal questions which he could not answer and that he told Doersam to inform Werst that if he had any questions to consult the em- ployee relations office. Although Doersam's testimony would indicate that he did not talk to McMorrow after establishing Werst's interest in taking "action," it is clear from his testimony that McMorrow did in the course of their conversation suggest a referral of Werst to the employee relations office. However, Doersam testified that it was predicated on the condition that Werst was interested in taking action, not, as McMorrow testified, if he had any questions. I am inclined to credit Doer- sam's version which, to my mind, is the explanation for the keen interest McMorrow 14 MeMorrow testified that Doersam did ask him if it would be proper to talk to some of his employees, but only to get information as to what their sentiments were and what action , if any, they were taking However, this is not consistent with his testimony that he asked Doersam to do that very thing in their previous conversation and that in the instant conversation he asked Doersam what he had learned from his employees with regard thereto Therefore, I do not accept McMorrow's version as to what action Doersam asked him would be proper McMorrow also testified that Doersam said he had two men in mind to whom he planned to talk. This reference to talking to two men would appear to be more consistent with Doersam's version of this portion of their conversations than McMorrow's is These quotations are from McMorrow's testimony. 1e Werst was on a trip to the west coast 17 The details of their conversation are discussed hereinbelow. 641795-63-vol. 136-21 308 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD and Thomas Hirschberg, head of the employee relations office, took in Werst when he contacted their office. McMorrow flatly denied Doersam's testimony of references by McMorrow in -their conversations to McMorrow having a list of 76 names of employees who had indi- cated their opposition to affiliation which would be made available to Werst and also to having a lawyer in mind, whose name would be supplied to him. It does not appear necessary to resolve this conflict, for, in any event, based on Werst's actions leading to the formation of the DC, I do not believe that he was given such a list or the name of a lawyer.18 b. Doersam's conversations with Lober Doersam testified to having had quite a few conferences with his immediate super- visor, George Lober, during the period of his telephone conversations with Mc- Morrow, in which he consulted Lober with respect to these conversations and his actions relating thereto. Lober categorically denied that there were any such con- ferences. I believe that Doersam did in a conversation or conversations with Lober inform him on a casual basis of some of the details to which he testified. However, I do not believe it necessary to attempt to reconstruct what might or might not have been said by them, since I do not believe that is of sufficient moment. Doersam testified that Lober said he would inform Hirschberg of Werst's desire to take action to oppose affiliation and that Doersam need not do any more. Whether it was Doer- sam or Lober who informed the employee relations office of that fact does not appear to be important, since it is clear that that information was communicated. c. Doersam's conversations with Werst As has been indicated, Werst returned to the plant toward the end of the first work- week in May 1960. He reported to Doersam and during the course of their conversa- tion, they discussed the proposed affiliation. Both testified to the conversation 10 and there appears to be no conflict that Werst indicated that he was disturbed about the affiliation, that Doersam informed him that there was doubt that the Company could succeed in blocking it through the legal action it had instituted, that Werst in- quired what could be done, and that Doersam suggested the possibility of preventing the affiliation through action by the employees, the name of Delavan Smith as a lawyer whom West could consult,20 that Werst take steps to find others who oppose affili- ation and that Werst should get in touch with the employee relations office. Doersam testified that he told Werst of his conversations with McMorrow, that there was a lack of leadership among those who were opposed to the affiliation, that the employee relations office was looking for a leader, that he thought he (Werst) would be a good leader, that if he were interested he should contact the employee relations office, that it has a list of names of employees who had inquired about the affiliation and the name of a lawyer. I am of the opinion that Doersam did relate to 'him something of his conversations with McMorrow in light of the following question and answer: Q. (By Mr. PRASIIER.) During that conversation, Mr. Werst, did Mr. Doersam tell you that he had spoken to a Mr. McMorrow in the employee rela- tions department? A. Mr. Doersam , as I recall it, did not mention specifically the name of anyone he had spoken to. Werst testified that he could not "recall " that Doersam mentioned that the employee relations office was prepared to provide him with the names of employees who-might oppose the affiliation or with the name of a lawyer. While I am inclined, to' credit Doersam 's testimony on this point , I do not attach much significance to it , since, as I '- I refer to the means he employed in attempting to contact others who might be inter- ested in preventing affiliation and the method by which he obtained a lawyer He made calls blindly from the company telephone directory and there is no indication that he had the assistance of a list of prospects. He obtained the name of the lawyer whom he con- sulted through a referral service. 19 There is some conflict as to whether or not all that was said between them occurred in a single or in more than one conversation, but there appears to be no need to resolve this conflict and I consider what they said to each other as if it were one conversation. a0 Doersam called Delayvan Smith and ascertained that he would be willing to represent Werst and such other employees as might be associated with him. Doersam urged Werst to contact Smith which Werst attempted to do but found Smith out of town Thus, this attempt on the part of Doersam to supply Werst with a lawyer proved unsuccessful. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 309 indicated before, I do not believe Werst was provided with such information. I be- lieve that Doersam did tell Werst , as part of what he had learned from McMorrow, that it was felt that a leader was needed to organize the antiaffiliatton elements in order to give effect to their opposition. d. Werst's contact with the employee relations office Shortly after the day Werst had his conversation with Doersam in the course of which Werst testified Doersam "very definitely did ask me to call Employee Rela- tions" (which conversation apparently was on the same day, according to McMorrow, that Doersam reported to him that Werst was taking or about to take "action" in opposition to affiliation ), Werst telephoned the employee relations office. Werst placed the time of the call at "at least a week " after that day, while McMorrow testi- fied that it was on the same day or the day after Doersam's report . Werst talked to McMorrow and was invited by him to come to the office. McMorrow testified that he told Hirschberg that "there was an engineer named Werst who had some questions and would be coming up to the office" and that he may have told Hirschberg that Doersam had "mentioned" Werst to him. Hirschberg testi- fied that McMorrow told him "that one of Charlie Doersam's engineers , a man by the name of Werst wanted to come up and ask some questions about the affiliation. . Hirschberg notified the secretary in the office that when Werst came in he was to be referred to him (Hirschberg). When asked whether it was his general practice to report to Hirschberg that he had invited an employee who had asked some questions about the EA to come to the office, McMorrow answered, "I think I can say yes." I am not convinced that this was his general practice , not only because it appears to be somewhat implausible, but also by the manner in which the question was answered. Hirschberg testified, when asked why he instructed the secretary to refer Werst to him, that McMorrow told him Werst worked for Doersam, that he (Hirschberg) "considered Mr. Doersam to be officious and unstable and I wanted to make -sure that this man got the right story." Evidently McMorrow did not share Hirschberg's lack of confidence in Doersam, in view of the fact that McMorrow solicited Doersam to undertake the delicate task of talking to his employees to determine what their senti- ments were about affiliation and what action they might be taking, and was willing to rely on Doersam to exercise sufficient caution not to give an improper impression. Hirschberg 's explanation would appear to be something of a non sequitur. I have difficulty in understanding why it follows that because Werst worked for a man who was "officious and unstable" it was thought advisable that he get "the right story" about the proposed affiliation of the EA, for it does not appear from Hirsch- berg's testimony that he was told that Doersam had been talking to Werst about the affiliation problem. However, I am of the opinion that Hirschberg had been advised of it. McMorrow's testimony concedes that possibility. When Werst came to the employee relations office, shortly after his conversation with McMorrow, he was referred to Hirschberg who took him into a conference room where McMorrow joined them. It appears that McMorrow participated little, or not at all, in the ensuing conversation . They discussed such matters as the percentage of EA members in the bargaining unit and the Company's legal action. All three who were present at this conversation testified that Hirschberg avoided answering questions Werst asked as to what could be done to prevent the affiliation and that Hirschberg suggested Werst consult a lawyer versed in labor matters. Thereafter , Werst started telephoning employees "to find out how people felt.. " He testified: After I talked to Mr. Hirschberg and after I had a chance to think about it a little further and I decided that maybe it would be a good idea to try to find out something about it, to see whether it would be worthwhile talking to a lawyer, but my-as I said , my interest before the talk to Mr. Hirschberg was a rather passive one. From this testimony I infer that the purpose Werst had in mind of consulting a lawyer was to obtain advice on how to proceed , should he find others who were willing to join with him in taking action and thus make it "worthwhile." There is nothing in the testimony which sheds any light on what occurred during Werst's talk with Hirschberg which caused the former to channge his interest from passive to active. It should be noted at this point , that I do not accept Werst 's characterization of his interest , either prior to or after this talk with Hirschberg , but judge it from his conduct among other things. 310 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD 3. The organization and formation of the DC After his talk with Hirschberg, Werst managed to contact a number of employees who were interested in taking action to prevent affiliation. Among them were Henry Wakeland, who testified in this proceeding, as well as others referred to in the record as Goodman, Apt, and Onderdonk. Werst had a series of meetings with them during the course of which it was agreed that a lawyer should be found and Werst was delegated the task. Through a number of telephone calls Werst found a referral service which could recommend a lawyer and on May 25, he, Apt, and Goodman visited the referral service and were given the name of Harry Rains (appearing herein on behalf of the DC as the petitioner in the RD case). They then proceeded to Rains' office and conferred with him. After some discussion, Rains proposed that another conference be held to which they should bring more people and at which meeting they could discuss possible courses of action. The proposed meeting was held in Rains' office the evening of May 31 and was attended by 12 employees, including those above mentioned and others who were "invited" by Werst and his colleagues. Werst introduced Rams, who explained that he had been contacted through the referral service and gave them information as to his qualifications. There followed a discussion of the possible courses of action. Wakeland suggested participation of the group as amicus curiae in the Company's legal action. Rains indicated that neither this course nor arbitration was practical, but that a petition for decertification was an available procedure. Although several were opposed to such drastic action, it was eventually agreed that the decertification method would be used, that it would, at least, serve, if there were a sufficient number of signatures, to demonstrate a strong protest against affiliation. The meeting was conducted on an informal basis, and by a "general murmur of approval" Werst, Wakeland, and Robert Mitchell were designated as "co-chairmen" of the group. Arrangements were made to hold the next meeting of the group on June 6 at which Rains said he would present a letter of retainer. Also, Wakeland was to prepare for submission at the meeting a proposed leaflet (stating the aims of the group) for distribution to the bargaining unit. The meeting of June 6, again at Rains' office, was attended by the original group and several others. It was at this meeting that the DC became formally organized. The leaflet which Wakeland had prepared, subject to some editing by Rains, was approved by vote and the letter retaining Rains was signed. The leaflet, the testi- mony of what was said at the meeting and the letter of retainer, as it was later amended on June 16, all indicate that the objective of the DC was to prevent affilia- tion and that a decertification vote would be sought as a last resort. A steering committee was set up and plans were made for the DC's campaign to secure signa- tures authorizing a decertification petition. 4. Was Werst an agent of Sperry in the organization and formation of the DC? Having found Werst not a supervisor within the meaning of the Act, I now turn to an alternative contention of the General Counsel. He contends that, even if it were found that "technically" Werst was not a supervisor, "responsibility [for his actions] would be attributed to Sperry based on the fact that Sperry . . . authorized Werst to engage in" his conduct on behalf of the DC, "clothed him with the attri- butes of management," and "put him in a position so as to have the employees work- ing under him reasonably believe that he expressed the policies and desires of man- agement in his function in the Field Shop." I cannot accept this contention. In my opinion, the functions he performed and the authority he exercised in carrying out his job or the tasks assigned to him do not furnish a basis to support the inference that employees reasonably could have considered Werst as being in the echelon of management or its mouthpiece. As explained in more detail in the above section dealing with the question of his supervisory status, be did not have the "Code B" authority which is an attribute of the lowest rank in the hierarchy of Sperry management, nor did employees believe he had such authority. The in- vasions he made into areas of activities usually conducted by supervisors were known by so few and either so isolated in time or in number as to have had little or no impact. In his brief General Counsel argues that Werst was an agent of Sperry in the organization and formation of DC. He contends, "The evidence is clear that Werst acted at the direction of Employee Relations." I do not agree. While it is true that he moved in the direction Sperry desired, I do not consider that tantamount to doing so at its direction. I do not believe that the record establishes that Sperry, through any of its supervisors, either ordered or asked Werst to take action to SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 311 organize employee opposition to the proposed affiliation of the EA. I believe, rather, that they exercised sufficient caution to avoid giving Werst or any employee the impression that Werst was acting on behalf of the Company or was asked or directed to do so. I do not find that they gave him such assistance as would permit the inference that an agency relationship existed or that from their conduct it can be concluded that the Company ratified his acts. In support of this agreement General Counsel cites Shelly Gordon and Palmer Gordon, partners d/b/a Lakeland Cement Company, 130 NLRB 1365, a case in which the Board found an agency relationship existed between the company involved and an employee who campaigned to obtain with- drawals from the union. In that case the company aided the employee in some of the details of his campaign by furnishing him with appropriate language to be employed in obtaining the withdrawals and permitting him to use company prop- erty and time therefor. In the instant case I find such active assistance lacking. While I do credit Doersam's testimony that Werst was permitted to use a private office and telephone extension therein and that he was relieved of some of his duties during the period involved in this proceeding, I do not accept his testimony that it was done for the purpose of making company time or property available to Werst for his activities on behalf of the DC. I am not convinced that such purpose was expressed or implied to him or that such purpose was intended.2' Thus, I conclude that Werst was not acting as an agent of Sperry in his activities with respect to the organization and formation of the DC. 5. Did Respondent "initiate, sponsor, and encourage the organization and formation" of the DC? Based on the findings of fact made in the section hereinabove titled, "2. Events preceding the organization and formation of the DC," I believe it appropriate to conclude that Respondent did "interfere" with its employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act. In my opinion, the record discloses that Respondent realized that the employee dissatisfaction with the proposed affiliation required leadership to organize it effectively and sought to supply the leadership by inducing an employee with or- ganizational ability to take action. Through Doersam it found Werst from whom Doersam elicited the information that he was opposed to affiliation and would be interested in doing something to prevent it. Through its supervisors, Sperry im- planted in his mind the desire to take action and the initial steps which would point him in the right direction. It was made clear to him that an initial step to take was to find others of like mind who were also willing to take action. Doersam even suggested publishing an advertisement to accomplish this. It was also made clear to him by Doersam, and later by Hirschberg, that another necessary step was to consult a lawyer versed in labor law. Werst, himself, testified that he decided, after talking to Hirschberg, to see whether he could find like-minded col- leagues in order to ascertain whether it was "worthwhile" to consult a lawyer. I find nothing in the record to support an inference that he was assisted in finding such colleagues or an appropriate lawyer. Nor do I find anything in the record which would support an inference that there was any coercion used or promise of benefit made. While I do believe that Sperry representatives attempted to exercise caution not to overstep proper bounds in initiating the organization of employee dissatisfaction by supplying it impetus through Werst's leadership, nevertheless I am of the opinion that it did overstep such bounds. I am of the opinion that implanting in Werst's mind the idea of assuming leadership, advising him of the initial steps to take in the organization of that dissatisfaction, and encouraging him to take action con- stitute interference within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. I see no purpose in speculating whether or not Werst would have ultimately taken the action he did, even if Sperry's representatives had not conducted themselves as they did. There is a sufficiently clear relationship between their conduct and the ensuing actions of Werst to infer that the connection was causal not casual. Werst played a major role in the organization and formation of the DC which followed after he took the suggested initial steps of contacting like-minded colleagues and consulting a lawyer. 21This point is discussed more fully hereinbelow in the portion of this report titled, "G. The conduct alleged in paragraph No 9 of the complaint " 312 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD Thus, I conclude that it can be said that Respondent did, to some degree, initiate the organization of the DC, and that its conduct constituted interference within the meaning of Section 8 ( a)( I) of the Act. In its brief Respondent argues that, since throughout the complaint it is alleged that Werst was a "supervisor" and "agent" of Sperry and nowhere is it alleged that he was an "employee," the "theory of the Complaint is not that Sperry unlawfully 'encouraged ' Werst, as an employee.. . . . I do not consider that this would pre- clude the above finding of unlawful "encouragement" of Werst as an employee. The question of whether or not Werst was an "employee" was fully litigated, and an extensive portion of the record was devoted to detailed testimony, on direct and cross-examination of witnesses of General Counsel and Respondent, as to the con- duct of Werst, Doersam, McMorrow, and Hirschberg upon which my finding is based . Therefore, even though it was not alternatively alleged that Werst was an employee and that he was, as such, unlawfully encouraged, I believe it proper to make the above finding of a violation of Section 8(a) (1). Thompson Manufacturing Co., Inc., 132 NLRB 1464. 6. The conduct alleged in paragraph No. 9 of the complaint It is alleged in paragraph No. 9 of the complaint (and denied by Sperry) that Sperry, by Doersam, Werst, Lober, and Hirschberg as agents and supervisors, per- mitted various employees to suspend their work to conduct business on behalf of the DC and paid them for time so spent. A large portion of the testimony in the record which can be related to the allega- tions in paragraph No. 9 refers to Werst's activities 22 Furthermore, I have con- sidered this testimony in determining whether such assistance was given to him as might make it appropriate to conclude that he was an agent of the Company. I am not convinced by the testimony on this point that it is appropriate to conclude that he was an agent or that a violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act was proved with respect to this aspect of Respondent's conduct in regard to Werst The testimony on this point may be divided into five categories. First, there is testimony by Doersam that, at Lober's suggestion, Werst was given permission to use a certain office and the telephone therein to conduct DC business. Lober denies this. The office referred to was a "cubicle" assigned to a section head (King) who was absent for all or a great portion of the period involved. The telephone in the cubicle bore the number "2624," which number had been assigned to Werst in the company directory sometime prior to Werst's decision to take action in opposition to the proposed affiliation. Calls coming in on that number could only be taken in King's or Doersam's cubicle. Thomas McPartland, an enginner on the USD-7 project, was called as a witness by General Counsel, and in the course of his testi- mony stated that there was no restriction on the use of King's cubicle and the tele- phone therein by people in the department and he recalled occasions when he and other engineers made use thereof. Thus, while I have no doubt that Werst received and made calls in the aforementioned cubicle, I am not convinced that permission was granted him to do so for the purpose of conducting DC business, or, for that matter, that there were any specific arrangements to permit him the use of the facilities whatever the purpose. Second, there is considerable testimony as to the number of telephone calls Werst made and received. Five of General Counsel's witnesses made widely vary- ing estimates of the number of his telephone calls. Other than Doersam's testimony with respect to snatches of what he overheard Werst say during three telephone conversations, there is no evidence of what the subject matter of his telephone conversations might have been I am unable to infer from this scanty evidence what proportion of the calls he made or received, if any of them, related to DC business. Even the snatches of conversation overheard may have been merely passing refer- ences to DC matters made in the course of what was otherwise a conversation related to Sperry business. Furthermore, I can attach no significance to the number of telephone calls he made and received, since I am not convinced that they were so abnormally frequent that it would be appropriate to infer that they were not confined to Sperry or personal matters but extended to DC business One of the aforesaid five witnesses, Francis V. Thiemann, testified that Werst was paged on 29 Although it would appear from the wording of the paragraph that it was not intended to include Werst among the "various employees," nevertheless, since the issue was fully litigated with respect to Werst as an employee I will consider it The question of whether Werst can be classified as a "supervisor" or "agent" was fully litigated and I have deter- mined neither classification to be appropriate SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 313 "2624" 5 to 7 times a day, but he also testified that another engineer in the depart- ment, Bila, received 7 to 10 pages a day during a period shortly prior to the periods involved herein (the period prior to August 4 and the period from August 4 to Sep- tember 8). In any event, there is no indication that Sperry or any of its super- visors attempted to police the calls made or received by employees either with re- spect to frequency or purpose. Therefore, I can find no element of assistance to Werst from Sperry's supervisors based on permitting him to conduct DC business over the telephone during normal working hours. Third, there is also considerable testimony with respect to the number of visitors Werst had during the periods pertinent to this proceeding and with respect to the frequency of their visits. I cannot attach any significance to this line of testimony, for,-as was the case with respect to the telephone calls, there is scanty evidence to indicate that the visits were with respect to DC business and, in any event, there is no indication that Sperry or its supervisors attempted to police or restrict "visits" either with respect to number or purpose. Fourth, Doersam was questioned and testified at length to the percentage of time Werst was absent from the work area of the department during normal working hours. Except for the occasion (which Werst charged to PR time) when he con- sulted a referral service and had his initial conference with Rains,23 there is no showing what proportion of his absences, if any of them, was for the purpose of engaging in DC business. Also, there is credible testimony that his job required frequent absences Furthermore, there is no showing that Sperry or its supervisors attempted to police the activities or movements of its engineers, but apparently relied on.them to make a proper accounting of their working time on their weekly time- sheets. Although the timesheets required a supervisor's approval, there is no show- ing that the approval of Werst's timesheets was with knowledge that some of his time charged to company business was in fact devoted to DC business. Fifth, Doersam testified that in conversations he had with Lober, during which they discussed the amount of time Werst was spending on DC business, it was de- cided, because of this, to assign McPartland to "backup" Werst. Lober denied having such conversations and testified that Doersam had the authority without consulting him to so assign McPartland. McPartland, a senior engineer in the field shop, was given such an assignment , according to his testimony, in mid-June 1960 for a period of about 3 weeks at the end of which period he was relieved of all work on the USD-7 project. Doersam testified the assignment was made in July and in his pretrial affidavit stated that McPartland assumed responsibility for all of Werst's work and continued to do so until up to the time Doersam left the employ of Sperry on September 23 (over 2 weeks after DC's activities ceased). Werst testified that the assignment was made because of an increase of his work- load and activity in his shop in an area of production (mechanical design) with which McPartland had more experience. Werst also testified that about this period he was working 5 to 10 hours a week less overtime than he had previously. This could very well have required the assistance from McPartland to which McPartland testified he devoted one-third of his time. Roughly this would correspond to the decrease in overtime which Werst worked. Whether Lober and Doersam did or did not have the conversations to which Doersam testified, I am not satisfied that it has been demonstrated that Werst was spending "company time" on DC affairs and that McPartland was assigned to relieve Wrest of some of his duties to make time during normal working hours available to Werst for DC business. It is quite possible that the time which Werst could have devoted to overtime work was devoted instead to DC business , but the Company cannot be held responsible for how Werst em- ployed his time after regular working hours, if it did not pay him for such time. It is quite possible that Doersam suspected that some of Werst's telephone calls, conversations with visitors from other departments, and absences related to DC business . However, there is no showing that Sperry or any of its supervisors re- stricted engineers in their movements, conversations with visitors, and telephone calls or attempted to police such conduct whatever the purpose thereof that may have been suspected. There is no showing that proponents of either the DC or the EA were in anyway policed or restricted by supervisors in the course of their normal workday. In the absence of any showing of a practice of policing or restricting engineers prior, during, or after the pertinent periods herein, I can find no signifi- cance in-the fact that Doersam did not attempt to police or restrict Werst's activi- as Personal reasons time . See footnote 10, supra I do not pass upon whether or not it was appropriate for the Company to permit him to so charge this time, since there is no showing that the Company had knowledge that it was spent for the purpose to which he devoted It. See footnote 26, infra, for testimony as to this point. 314 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD ties despite his suspicions. There is testimony that such a practice is not feasible because of the nature of engineers' responsibilities and duties. Therefore I am led to the conclusion that it has not been demonstrated by any of the above five lines of testimony that Sperry assisted the DC by permitting Werst, or any other engineer, to use company time for DC business. There is another line of testimony which might be said to fall within the allega- tions of paragraph No. 9 of the complaint. This testimony is with respect to the payment of DC representatives for their time spent at the National Labor Relations Board's hearing on August 4 and preelection meeting on August 30 and of their observers for time spent at the election itself on September 8. This line might also be said to relate to the allegations in paragraph No. 10 of the complaint as well as to objection No. 4 in the RD case. The General Counsel has not contended in his brief that this line of testimony established a violation of Section 8(a)(1). I do not find that it does establish a violation of Section 8(a)(1). I will, however, post- pone setting forth the basis for this conclusion to that portion of this report herein- below entitled "The conduct alleged in objection No. 4" at which point the testimony will be considered. 7. The conduct alleged in paragraph No. 10 of the complaint In essence , it is alleged in paragraph No. 10 of the complaint that Respondent, by its "supervisor, Werst and other agents and supervisors" participated in the affairs of the DC and "contributed financial and other support." It is not contended, nor does it appear, that there is any evidence in the record which may be said to be within the category of the phrase "other support." As to the "financial" support, the only testimony I find which can be said to relate to this allegation is with respect to the payment of DC representatives for time spent at the meetings of August 4 and 30, and as observers at the election. As previously indicated, I do not find this testimony would support a finding of a violation of Section 8(a)(1) for the reasons which I state hereinbelow in my analysis of this testimony in the section of this report in which objection No. 4 is considered. I have found Werst not to be a supervisor or an agent of Sperry. There appears to be nothing in the record, which indicates nor is it contended, that any other indi- vidual who participated in DC affairs was a supervisor or Sperry agent. Therefore, it appears that none of the allegations in this paragraph of the complaint has been sustained. 8. The conduct alleged in objection No. 2 The EA's objection No. 2 to the election (which was held on September 8) is as follows: During the twenty four hour period preceding the election and while the elec- tion was in progress, supervisory employees called bargaining unit employees into private offices where two or three supervisors would discuss the union vote with employees and question them as to their intentions with regard to the election. Additional electioneering was conducted by other supervisors throughout the plant on September 7 and 8. Except for testimony in the nature of background information, testimony elicited with respect to this objection was limited (by my ruling based on the reasons stated hereinabove in the section of this report entitled "The Issues") to interviews occurring within the time and places specified in the objection. I did not limit the testimony to only those interviews in which two or more supervisors were present, since I did not consider the number of supervisors to be a significant element in the allegation. The record contains some details of the content of the conversations which took place in seven interviews supervisors had with six employees (one employee having been interviewed twice by different supervisors). John Miazza, a senior engineer in department 9235, testified to being called into the cubicle of his engineering section head, John Diehlmann, in the morning of Septem- ber 7, who commenced the conversation by asking him if he had any question con- cerning the election. Their conversation apparently was in the nature of a discussion and argument which lasted "between an hour and a half and two hours." Miazza testified that Diehlmann discussed the Company's pension plan with him and asked him "a number of argumentative questions," such as "Do you really feel that you need a union?" and "Do you want to have the type of union, the CIO union that the shop workers have?" The EA in its brief pointed out as significant that Diehl- mann asked the question, "How do you justify your position with respect to the Union with your hope that some day you will become a part of management?" Even SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 315 assuming that Miazzi 's testimony may be credited in its entirety , I do not find that Diehlmann made any threats or promises of benefit . As to the question of how Miazzi justified his position with his hope of becoming part of management, I do not interpret it as a threat that his attitude in favor of the Union would jeopardize his chances of promotion. I believe it was asked to ascertain from Miazza whether, when he became part of management as he hoped , he would not object to having the engineers represented by a union affiliated with the CIO. It is evident that Miazzi also interpreted the question in the same vein, for he testified that he answered "that I didn't feel that there was any inconsistency between union support and man- agement, that we were all doing engineering work and I thought that one objective in the union was to raise the standards of engineering." Miazzi also testified to a conversation he had with Julian Gudel, engineering department head of the department to which Miazza and Diehlmann were assigned, in the afternoon of September 7. Gudel testified that the conversation took place in the morning of September 6. The necessity of determining whether September 6 or 7 is the correct date is not, to my mind, predicated on the possible applicability of a Board principle based upon the date,24 but solely a matter of whether it falls within the area of testimony which the Board directed me to hear with respect to this objection. Miazzi testified that he was struck by the similarity between the questions asked by both Diehlmann and Gudel and asked the latter if he had not been "briefed." (Gudel denied this portion of Miazzi's testimony.) This testimony, if credited, would tend to establish the date as the 7th, since the interview would have had to follow the Diehlmann interview which occurred in the morning of that date. I am inclined to credit Miazzi's testimony on this point and on the date of the interview. However, I find nothing in his testimony of what Gudel stated to him, even if accepted in its entirety, which would support the inference that there was any threat or promise of benefit made to him in order to alter his voting intentions. Henry Defries, an engineer in Diehlmann's department, testified to a conversation he had on September 7 with Diehlmann in the latter's cubicle. The EA points out that Diehlmann started the conversation, as he had with Miazza, by discussing the Com- pany's pension plan. This, the EA contends in its brief, illustrates that their con- versation "was not an isolated event, but rather a part of a pattern," since previous reports of the pension plan were sent to the employees and not discussed individually with them. 'I assume that by its reference to a "pattern," EA is contending that the Company engaged in a program of having supervisors interview employees with respect to the election by commencing with a discussion of their interests in the pension plan. Even assuming that the Company did engage in a program of having supervisors discuss the pension plan with the employees, I cannot conclude from three incidents 25 that the Company used such discussions as a springboard for discussing the forthcoming election with employees on a wholesale basis or over what period such discussions, if they occurred, took place (whether they occurred within the period alleged to in objection No. 2). Defries testified that Diehlmann asked him what his opinion was of the EA's affili- ation with the IUE, whether he did not think it "unprofessional" for an engineer to belong to a trade union, whether he felt insecure in his job, and what goal he had in mind for his future at Sperry. While I have no doubt that Diehlmann clearly indi- cated that the Company preferred that the vote go against the EA, I do not find that anything said to Defries by Diehlmann could reasonably be construed as constituting a threat or promise of benefit aimed at changing his vote. The question as to what goal he had in mind, depending on its context, might have been a subtle threat with respect to his prospects of promotion. However, it is just as possible that it was asked, and would reasonably have been so understood, preliminarily to advancing the argument that as an eventual part of management he (Defries) might prefer that the engineers not be represented by a trade union. It is not clear from Defries' testimony as to his answer in what context the question was asked. He answered that he did not 24 In its brief the EA contends that the Board "rule" formulated in Peerless Plywood Company, 107 NLRB 427, with respect to the 24-hour period preceding an election is applicable to the instant case. Since there is no evidence in the record of "election speeches . . . to massed assemblies of employees within 24 hours before" an election, against which the Peerless Plywood rule was directed, I find no significance in the date of the interview because of the rule. 25 Lester Wahrenburg also testified to an interview on September 7 in which Engineering Section Head Wetherell gave him answers to a question about the pension plan which had arisen in an earlier conversation. 316 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD want to become a supervisor , that he preferred working in the laboratory . In this con- nection it is noted that he testified that nothing that Diehlmann said to him indicated that he would suffer some disadvantage if he did or did not act in a certain way. I do not find any basis for concluding that the reference to his "goal " was in such context as would make it reasonable to believe that it constituted a threat. Clyde A. Pritchett and Lester Wahrenburg testified to conversations on Septem- ber 7 with supervisors in their cubicles in which the forthcoming election was dis- cussed. Nowhere in their testimony is there any reference to a statement made by the supervisor which could possibly be construed as a threat or promise of benefit. Julian Furness, chairman of the EA's grievance committee and a senior engineer, testified that in the morning of the election ( September 8) his supervisor , Sal Piccione, asked him to accompany him (Piccione) to the cubicle of another supervisor, Kenny, and that another supervisor , James Shaw, was also present when he entered the cubicle. They discussed some matter of business and then, he testified, all three supervisors "fired" questions at him concerning the election , such as "What are you going to do when the Union loses the election?" and "What are you going to do with your strike fund when the Union loses the election?" When he did not answer, they asked him if he were afraid to do so; and he testified that he said he was not, but did not answer their questions . Although the EA quotes this testimony in its brief, it does not explain what inference or conclusions it wishes me to draw therefrom. I am unable to ascertain the purpose for the questions or the effect that was intended, except possibly to make Furness, as one of the top officials of the EA, feel uneasy about the results of the election. I find nothing coercive therein. The EA also quotes in its brief the testimony of John Campbell, vice president of the EA, with respect to a conversation he had on September 7 with James Kenny, an engineer section head, in the presence of two other supervisors, Campbell testified that Kenny said to him that he did not want to be misunderstood but that he (Camp- bell) would have one consolation if the Union loses, a "meteoric rise in the company." This was followed by the explanation that if he "spent eight hours a day on company business instead of six . on company business and two hours a day on union business," he would "make out." EA contends that this was an attempt, apparently by promise of benefit, to persuade him to change his vote. In view of the explanation given, I find no promise of benefit, and, in view of Campbell's position in the EA, I consider the purpose advanced in the brief could hardly have been contemplated by Kenny or have reasonably been so understood by Campbell. Not only do I find no element of coercion demonstrated by the testimony in the record with respect to the interviews by supervisors of employees from the content of the statements made to employees, but also I find no element of coercion because of the extent (in number) of such interviews, or because of the situs of the interviews (as being in the locus of managerial authority ). Comparing the number in the bargaining unit (approximately 3,500) with the number of the employees interviewed (6) I do not consider such isolated incidents of inherently noncoercive interviews could have had sufficient impact to have interfered with the freedom of choice of the employees As for the situs of the interviews, all but one were in cubicles which are surrounded on three sides by 4-foot partitions and into which the interviewees were quite accustomed to go. I am convinced that these cubicles did not have such an aura of high managerial authority that the interviewees were overawed by finding themselves therein. 9. The conduct alleged in objection No. 4 It is alleged in objection No. 4 that "the Company financed the activity of the De- certification Committee and of observers designated to act in its behalf." The testimony which might be said to relate to this objection can be divided into two categories: (1) related to whether Sperry permitted proponents of the DC, particu- larly Werst, to devote company time to DC business, and (2) related to the method of payment of DC and EA representatives for the time they spent at the hearing on August 4 and preelection meeting of August 30, and as observers at the election on September 8 .26 ^ There is also the incident in ninth Werst devoted several hours of company time to obtaining Rains' name from a referral service and for hiq initial consultation with Rains He charged this against his PR time and Werst testified that in obtaining approval therefor he advised Doersam that lie wished to consult a lawyer but did not inform him of the pur- pose thereof In the absence of any showing of knowledge on the part of Doersam that Werst had DC business in mind, it does not appear that the appropriateness of permitting the time to be charged to "personal reasons" need be considered . For an explanation of "PR time" see the second following paragraph. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 317 The first category of testimony was analyzed in the section of this report herein- above entitled "The conduct alleged in paragraph No. 9 of the complaint." I found therein no basis for concluding from such testimony that Sperry assisted the DC by permitting its proponents to use company time for DC business. I find for the same reasons that this line of testimony does not support the allegation in objection No. 4 The second category of testimony involves Sperry's practice of allocating to engineers 10 days per annum which they can use for "personal reasons" subject to the approval of a supervisor. Time so spent is charged against their quota of 10 days and is designated by the employees on their timesheets as "PR time." It also is the established practice that time spent by engineers on activities of the EA was charged by them on their timesheets to "UA time" (union activity time) and time so reported was not paid for by Sperry, but was in turn reported by it to the EA, which compensated the employees for time so charged. There is testimony that in the past Sperry resisted requests that time devoted to union activities be charge- able to PR time, although it appears that the Company paid employees for time spent on some phases of EA activity without charging time so spent against their quota of PR time. It was stipulated that all observers at the election (both EA and DC) were paid by Sperry for their time spent in that capacity without any charge against their PR time It was also stipulated that Werst charged on his timesheet the time he spent at the August 4 and 30 meetings to PR time and was paid in accordance there- with. It was also stipulated that Edward S. Langholz charged on his timesheet the time he spent as an EA representative at the August 4 meeting to an account designation for time spent on those phases of union activities paid by Sperry and that he was paid in accordance with said timesheet. Campbell and Furness, officials of the EA, charged their time spent in the two meetings against an account which embraced those phases of union activity which were not paid by Sperry, but for which time the EA made reimbursement to the employee. There is no showing that Sperry made payments to the representatives of the EA and the DC in any other manner than as they indicated on their individual timesheets. At the August 4 meeting there were apparently four employees representing the EA and three representing the DC. At the August 30 meeting there were apparently two employees representing the EA and two representing the DC. They were paid for their time in one of three ways- by the EA, if they charged their time to the UA account which required reimbursement by the EA (as apparently was the case with respect to Campbell and Furness, EA representatives); by Sperry, if they charged their time to PR time (as was the case with respect to Werst, a DC repre- sentative); or by Sperry, if they charged their time to the account to which union activity time could be charged which would be paid by Sperry (as was the case with respect to Langholz, an EA representative). It would appear that from the individual employee's standpoint those who fared the worst were the employees who charged their time to "PR time," for they thereby lost that much time out of their 10-day quota. No loss of pay was incurred whichever way the time was charged. There is testimony that Sperry indicated at the August 4 and 30 meetings that EA representatives and observers would not be permitted to charge time spent at the meetings and election to PR time Campbell, the EA's vice president, testified that at the August 4 meeting he said to McMorrow, "I guess I will put this down as PR time" and that McMorrow replied "in essence," "You are crazy, if you do." On the other hand the EA's grievance committee chairman, Furness, testified that he overheard Campbell say to Hirschberg, "I suppose we can charge this time against PR," and that Hirschberg answered, "No." McMorrow was not present at the meeting and Hirschberg denied that such conversation occurred. It is clear that Campbell could not have had the conversation to which he testified with McMorrow. While he might have been mistaken in his testimony as to the identity of the person with whom he had the conversation, and, instead, had a somewhat similar conversation with Hirschberg, as Furness testified, I do not find their testi- mony sufficiently convincing to discredit Hirschberg's denial. Hall, EA's president, testified to a conversation he had with Hirschberg at the August 30 meeting in which he said (after Hirschberg stated that EA observers should charge their time to UA), "I suppose the decertifiers [DC observers at the election] will be paid for by the Company" to which statement Hirschberg made no answer. He also testified that Julian Liebner, a member of the staff of the IUE who attended the meeting, witnessed this conversation, and that a number of others were also present. It is not clear whether he meant the others were present at the meeting or in his presence when the conversation occurred. Liebner, who confirmed 318 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD that the conversation took place, testified that it occurred across the conference table at which the others who attended the meeting were seated. I find somewhat suspect the singling out of Liebner by Hall as a "witness" to the conversation in face of Liebner's testimony as to the presence of the others at the table when the conver- sation was supposed to have occurred. Hirschberg denied that the conversation took place and two others who were present, including Furness, testified that they did not hear such a conversation . I do not find Hall's and Liebner's testimony as to the conversation in question sufficiently convincing to permit the discrediting of Hirschberg's denial. I have resolved the credibility issues with respect to the aforesaid conversations at the two meetings in view of the reliance the EA placed upon them in its brief with respect to objection No. 4. Assuming that these conversations did take place and do establish that Sperry indicated that it intended to follow a policy of permitting the DC representatives and observers to charge their time to PR and requiring the EA to reimburse their representatives and observers, it is clear that Sperry did not follow such a policy. It did not require the EA to reimburse Langholz, one of the EA representatives at the August 4 meeting, and paid both EA and DC observers without any charge against PR time. In any event, even assuming that Sperry denied the EA representatives the priv- ilege of charging their time to "PR," I do not consider such action would have been of sufficient moment to sustain this objection as a basis for setting aside the election . As far as the EA representatives were concerned this would have worked no personal hardship on them. If anything, it would have been to their personal advantage, for they would have been paid for their time without sacrificing part of their quota of PR time. It might be said that it would have worked to the disadvan- tage of the EA, in that the EA would have been required to use its funds to reimburse its representatives. I am far from convinced that this would have constituted such a hardship upon the EA as to have prevented it from carrying on its activities in some measure and thus affected the outcome of the election. In view of the extent of its campaign and the size of its membership, it would appear that if such an expenditure had been required with respect to three of its representatives at the August 4 meeting (the fourth, Langholz, was paid by Sperry) and its two representatives at the August 30 meeting, such expenditure would have been minimal and could have had no effect unon the EA's activities or the results of the election. The General Counsel made no reference in his brief to the lines of testimony above considered with respect to objection No. 4, although the testimony was elicited, in the main, from witnesses called by him ostensibly with respect to the issues in the CA case. 10. Conclusions as to the CA case As above indicated, I am of the opinion the Respondent's conduct with respect to Werst, through its Supervisors Doersam, McMorrow, and Hirschberg, constituted "interference" within the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. I found that they implanted in Werst's mind the idea of assuming leadership in organizing those in the bargaining unit who were dissatisfied with the affilation of the EA with the IUE, advised him of the initial steps to take, and encouraged him to take action. Therefore, I concluded that Respondent did, to some degree, initiate the organization of the DC. I do not make any conclusions with respect to the allegation in paragraph No. 8 of the complaint that Respondent violated the Act by "urging" its employees to sup- port the DC. As stated in the section of this report hereinabove entitled "The Issues" in denying the motion to dismiss this allegation, there might be a violation of the Act by such conduct depending upon what finding is made with respect to the allegation which precedes it in said paragraph. I have found that this preceding allegation has in part been sustained However, I see no purpose in determining the issue with respect to the "urging" (which Respondent admits as to the period following August 4). Were I to conclude that the "urging" did constitute a viola- tion, because of the finding made with respect to the allegation which precedes it, the appropriate remedy would appear to be an order upon the Respondent to cease and desist from such conduct in the future in the event the condition precedent existed of a similar violation to that which I have found. Since I shall recommend as a remedy for the violation found that Respondent cease and desist from such conduct and like and related conduct, it is evident that the condition precedent cannot come into existence without violating the cease and desist order which will be recommended. In view of the fact that the remedy flowing from a finding of a violation by Respondent's conduct with respect to the "urging" does not appear to be necessary to effectuate the purpose of the Act, I see no purpose in making a determination with respect thereto. SPERRY GYROSCOPE CO., DIV. OF SPERRY RAND CORP. 319 I am not of the opinion that any of the allegations of the complaint, other than that above indicated, have been sustained. 11. Conclusions as to the RD case As above indicated, I do not find that that portion of the record with respect to the conduct of Respondent alleged in EA's objections Nos. 2 and 4 demonstrates that Respondent interfered with the election by inhibiting the freedom of choice of the members of the bargaining unit. Therefore I shall recommend that the EA's objections Nos. 2 and 4 be overruled. There is a question as to what effect, if any, the finding of a violation of Section 8 (a)( I) in the CA case has upon the RD case, for both the General Counsel and the EA have contended that the petition in the RD case should be dismissed, if there be such a finding. This contention is discussed in the section hereinbelow entitled "The Remedy." IV. THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE UPON COMMERCE The activities of the Respondent set forth in section III, above, which I have found to constitute interference within the meaning of Section 8 (a) (1) of the Act occurring in connection with the operations of the Respondent described in section I, above, have a close, intimate, and substantial relation to trade, traffic, and commerce among the several States, and tend to lead to labor disputes burdening and obstruct- ing commerce and the free flow thereof. V. THE,REMEDY Having found that the Respondent engaged in certain conduct in violation of Section 8(a) (1), I shall recommend that it cease and desist therefrom and from like ,and related conduct and take certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the policies of the Act. General Counsel and the EA have indicated that the dismissal of the petition in the RD case would be an appropriate remedy for a finding in the CA case of a viola- tion of Section 8 (a)(1). It appears that they cannot mean such a finding of a violation as would fall within objections Nos. 2 and 4 in the RD case. The General Counsel speaks of a finding of the "invalidity of the RD petition" because of a violation of Section 8(a) (1). Such a finding could not be predicated on the conduct alleged in said objections even if the allegations therein were proved, since they relate to matters occurring after the petition was filed and the execution of the agreement that the election be held. Conduct of Respondent upon which the validity of the petition could conceivably be attacked would have had to occur during a period preceding that covered by the objections. Thus, I am unable to understand General Counsel's contention that because "the objections in the RD case involve the same issues as those in the CA case," they were consolidated to permit such a remedy. As stated hereinabove, it appears that the issues coincide only to a limited extent. If there were a finding of a violation of Section 8(a) (1) with respect to conduct also alleged in the objections, the appropriate remedy would appear to be to set aside the election, not to dismiss the petition as invalid. General Counsel cites Birmingham Publishing Company, 118 NLRB 1380, as authority for dismissing the petition in an RD case based on a finding of a violation of Section 8(a)(1) in a consolidated CA case. However, in the RD case cited, no action had, as yet, been taken disposing of the question of whether an election should be held or the petition dismissed, and the Board consolidated the CA case with it, the cases having been heard separately, since, as the Board indicated, the finding of the violation of Section 8(a)(1) in the CA case was dispositive of the aforesaid question pending in the RD case. I cannot recommend an order in the CA case requiring the Respondent to take some action which would in any manner affect the petition in the RD case herein. In a hearing on the petition, the parties stipulated to the holding of an election which agreement was approved by the Acting Regional Director. I do not consider that the Board has directed me to make recommendations in the RD case with respect to whether the petition raised a question concerning representation or the appropri- ateness of the Acting Regional Director's approval of the stipulation, since I was only directed to hear matters relating to objections Nos. 2 and 4 which could not possibly bear upon the validity of the petition 27 Although the Board ordered that the cases 27 The pertinent portion of the Board 's order is as follows: IIT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a hearing be held before a Trial Examiner, to be designated by the Chief Trial Examiner, to resolve the issues raised by Objections 2 and 4 and that such hearing may be consolidated with the hearing on the charges filed in Case No 2-+CA-713 . .. . 320 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD herein be consolidated , in the absence of the pendency in the RD case of the ques- tion of whether the election should be held or the petition dismissed , I find no basis for even inferring the existence of a directive to consider such a question. Therefore, I consider it outside the scope of my authority in this proceeding to make any recommendation to the Board with respect to the appropriateness of the remedy suggested by the EA and the General Counsel. However , in light of the finding in the CA case of a violation of Section 8(a)(1), the Board might wish to consider whether it would effectuate the policy of the Act to overrule the Acting Regional Director 's approval of the stipulation for certifica- tion upon consent election and dismiss the petition in the RD case. I believe it would be inappropriate for me to make a gratuitous recommendation with respect to the appropriateness of the Board undertaking consideration of this question or with respect to how the question should be determined, were it to be considered. Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact, and upon the entire record in this proceeding , I make the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAw 1. The Respondent is engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7 ) of the Act. 2. The EA is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2 ( 5) of the Act. 3. By implanting in the mind of an employee the idea of organizing a movement to decertify a union which is the recognized bargaining representative for the unit of which said employee is a member, encouraging him to take such action , and ad- vising him of the initial steps to take , Respondent did initiate such a movement and thereby has interfered with employees in the exercise of their statutory rights within the meaning of Section 8(a) (1) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor practice affects commerce within the meaning of Section 2 ( 6) and (7) of the Act. 5. None of the allegations of unfair labor practices set forth in paragraphs numbered 9 and 10 of the complaint herein has been sustained. 6. The allegations set forth in paragraph numbered 8 have been sustained to the extent of the finding in paragraph numbered 3 hereinabove. [Recommendations omitted from publication.] McCormick Construction Company and Joseph Hender Local Union 542, International Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO and Joseph Hender. Cases Nos. 4-CA-1670 and 4-CB-421. March 15, 1962, SUPPLEMENTAL DECISION AND ORDER On March 23, 1960, the Board issued its Decision and Order in the above-entitled proceeding,' finding that the Respondent Company and the Respondent Union had engaged in and were engaging in certain unfair labor practices violative of Section 8(a) (3) and (1) and Section 8 (b) (2) and (1) (A) of the Act, respectively. In brief, the Board found that the Respondents entered into and maintained a hiring arrangement which failed to contain certain safeguards re- quired by the Board as set forth in its Mountain Pacific decision.2 In addition, the Board found that the Respondents by maintaining and enforcing this arrangement discriminated against Joseph Render. 1126 NLRB 1246 . ( Member Fanning not participating.) 2Mountain Pacific Chapter of the Associated General Contractors , Inc., et at., 119 NLRB 883. 136 NLRB No. 33. Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation