Electrical Workers, Local 38Download PDFNational Labor Relations Board - Board DecisionsDec 8, 1975221 N.L.R.B. 1073 (N.L.R.B. 1975) Copy Citation ELECTRICAL WORKERS, LOCAL 38 International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 38 and Cleveland Electro Metals Company. Case 8-CC-719 December 8, 1975 DECISION AND ORDER BY CHAIRMAN MURPHY AND MEMBERS FANNING AND PENELLO On August 7, 1975,1 Administrative Law Judge Benjamin K. Blackburn issued the attached Decision in this proceeding. Thereafter, Respondent filed exceptions and a supporting brief. Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board has delegated its authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel. The Board has considered the record and the attached Decision in light of the exceptions and brief and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings, and conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge only to the extent consistent herewith. Charging Party Cleveland Electro Metals Compa- ny (hereinafter called Cleveland Electro) is a manu- facturer of deoxidized products for the steel industry whose employees are represented by the United States Steelworkers of America, AFL-CIO. Wiring Unlimited is a nonunion electrical contractor which, at times material herein, had a contract with Cleveland Electro to perform electrical work on an air pollution system at the latter's plant. On March 26, Edward Shingary, a business representative of Respondent Local 38, arrived at the Cleveland Electro plant along with representatives of various other construction trades unions. Accompa- nied by representatives of the Painters, Bricklayers, and Cement Masons, Shmgary met with Bruce Sokol, Cleveland Electro's works manager. It is undisputed that in that meeting Shingary asked Sokol whether he would consider giving the electrical work to a union contractor rather than to Wiring Unlimited. Sokol replied that he, doubted whether the Company would change contractors and that in any event such a decision would have to be made by the home office in Pittsburgh. It is further undisputed, that Sokol and Shingary agreed that Shingary would telephone Sokol the next day, March 27, and at that time Sokol would inform Shingary of the Company's decision. In dispute, however, is whether, as Sokol testified and Shingary denied: He [Shingary] said to me [Sokol] that he would have to play his game and probably ' set up a I All dates herein are in 1975 unless otherwise indicated 2 United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, AFL-CIO, 221 NLRB No. 173 1073 picket line at our plant and ask our union, the union that represents the people who work in the plant, to cooperate and not to cross the picket line. He told me [-] or asked [-] that we had a United Steel Workers [union] representing out people in the plant and said that they had had good relations with United Steel Workers in the past. Shingary, in denying that he made the above statements did testify that: He [Sokol] told me that he had a non-union contractor doing his work and stated that he was happy with the way the non-union contractor was performing. I said that we may have to use an informational type picket. During the morning of March 27 Shingary dis- cussed with Richard Acton, Local 38's business manager, whether Acton would authorize an inform- ational picket line if Cleveland Electro refused to give the electrical work to a union contractor. Acton did not reach a decision. Also on March 27, Shingary telephoned Sokol. The latter told Shingary that he had checked with his home office' and the decision had been made to have Wiring Unlimited continue to do the electrical work. Sokol then asked what Shingary was going to do and the latter replied that he "might" put up an informational picket line. No picketing ever took place. The Administrative Law Judge, crediting Sokol's version of the March 26 conversation, found that Shingary said he might establish an informational picket line at Cleveland Electro's plant and might ask the Steelworkers to honor such a picket line. Citing American Modulars Corporation,2 the Administrative Law Judge concluded that the mention- of the possibility of an informational picket line was itself an unlawful threat which "contemplated picketing of the entire jobsite and anyone working there, whether connected with the primary',or neutral persons or employers." Accordingly, he concluded that irrespec- tive of whether Shingary threatened to ask the Steelworkers cooperation, his threat to picket "the plant" included Cleveland Electro, a neutral employ- er, as well as Wiring Unlimited, and therefore the threat to establish an informational picket line was unlawful. Local No 639 (American Modulars Corporation), 203 NLRB 1112 (1973) 1074 DECISIONS OF,NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD We find, contrary to the Administrative Law Judge, that American Modulars is inapposite and that the instant case is more closely akin to Firelands Sewer and Water Construction Co., Inc.,3 which the Administrative Law Judge found distinguishable. In that case an Administrative Law "Judge, relying on American Modulars, found that the respondent violated 'Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) by its business repre- sentative's statement to representatives of the Buffalo Sewer Authority that if the Authority awarded a contract `to a nonunion contractor, respondent would engage in informational picketing. The Administra- tive Law Judge therein found this statement, made in order to prevent the Authority from awarding the contract to Firelands, an unlawful threat because it "was by its terms unrestricted in scope and contem- plated picketing the entire jobsite including future phases and any employers working there." The Board disagreed and found that the context in which, the statement was made indicated that it did not constitute a'threat to picket neutral employers. In so finding the Board emphasized that at the meeting where the alleged threat was made discussion centered on Firelands; no other contracts had been awarded ,and no other contractors or subcontractors were involved or discussed at the meeting; and the statement was made in response to a question as to what respondent , would do. In that context, the Board concluded, the statement could reasonably be construed as a threat only to picket Firelands, and therefore did not violate Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act. Similarly, in the instant case the only contractor under discussion was Wiring Unlimited; and of the other two contracts involved (for mechanical work and painting), one was almost completed and the other had not yet been awarded.4 Furthermore, in the March 27 conversation, Shingary's remark that Respondent might picket was made in reply to a question by Sokol. Under these circumstances, we find that Shingary's statement, while vague, should not be concerned as an unlawful threat to picket Cleveland Electro, but rather as a lawful statement of the possibility of informational picketing of Wiring Unlimited. In view of the above, we find, contrary to the Administrative Law Judge, that this case does turn on whether Shingary, threatened to ask the Steel- workers to cooperate in the picketing. In this regard we find that Shingary's version of the March 26 conversation, rather than Sokol's, should have been 3 International Union of Operating Engineers Local No 17,17A and 17B, AFL-CIO (Firelands Sewer and Water Construction Co, Inc) 210 NLRB 150 (1974). 4 Although the contract for mechanical work had been awarded to a nonunion contractor, it is undisputed Shingary and the other union credited and that Shingary did not refer to possible involvement of Steelworkers. In crediting Sokol's version of the March 26 conversation over Shingary's, the Administrative Law Judge relied principally on his own inferences as to what must have been Shingary's intent and what Sokol concluded that Shingary meant, rather than upon either the demeanor of the witnesses or objective considerations. Thus, the Administrative Law Judge stated: Whether Shingary got his point across to Sokol with a direct statement, as Sokol's testimony-- implies, is, however, beside the point. The question is whether the message Sokol got was the message Shingary sent. Shingary's admission on direct that he asked Sokol "how he had gotten into that kind of a situation" furnishes the answer. A union professional like Shingary would see a union employer who had entered into a contract with a nonunion employer as being in a "situation" fraught with peril for the employer and opportunity for a union which objected to that contract. In answering his own counsel, Shingary gave a glimpse into the way ' his mind was working as he talked to Sokol on March 26. He saw 'Cleveland Electro's relationship with the Steelworkers as a lever which he might use to move the Company in the direction he wanted it to go. In these circumstances, where credibility resolutions are not based primarily upon demeanor, it is well settled that the Board itself may proceed to an independent evaluation of credibility.5 In this case, the Administrative Law Judge credited Sokol and discredited Shingary despite his findings that "Sokol's testimony was not a model of clarity and precision"; that Shingary had no authority to establish a picket line without the approval of Local 38's business manager; that all Local 38 agents were carefully trained as to what to say to employers; that the conversation 'was amicable; and that Sokol's version of the conversation was denied by the other three union representatives present. Most important- ly, the Administrative, Law Judge specifically dis- credited Sokol's testimony that in his March 27 telephone conversation with Shingary the latter said that Respondent' "would" picket Cleveland Electro. To the contrary, the Administrative Law Judge credited Shingary's version of that conversation and found that Shingary merely remarked that Respon- representatives were not concerned with that contract inasmuch as it was virtually completed by March 26 5 Canteen Corporation, 202 NLRB 767 (1973), Valley Steel Products Co, 111 NLRB 1338 (1955). Cf Standard Dry Wall Products, Inc, 91 NLRB 544 (1950) ELECTRICAL WORKERS , LOCAL 38 1075 dent "might" engage in informational picketing. In our view, these findings are inconsistent with the Administrative Law.Judge's credibility resolution in favor of Sokol's version of the March 26 conversa- tion, particularly in the absence of an objective explanation for the crediting of Sokol, Rather, we find that a clear preponderance of the evidence supports Shingary's testimony that he did not tell Sokol that he might ask the Steelworkers to honor a picket line at the Cleveland Electro plant, and, thus, any basis for finding a violation based on such a purported threat completely disappears. Based on all the foregoing, we find that Respon- dent neither threatened unlawfully to picket a neutral employer nor to ask the Steelworkers to honor an informational picket line and, therefore, did not violate Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act. Accordingly, we shall dismiss the complaint herein. ORDER Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Relations Board hereby orders that the complaint be, and it hereby is, dismissed in its entirety. DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE BENJAMIN K. BLACKBURN, Administrative Law Judge: The charge in this case was filed on March 28, 1975.1 The complaint was issued on April 15. The hearing was held in Cleveland, Ohio, on June 9. The issue litigated was whether words spoken by Local 38 to Cleveland Electro Metals Company on March 26 and27 with an object of forcing or requiring the latter to cease doing business with Wiring Unlimited constitute a threat within the meaning of Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended. For the reasons set forth below, I find they do. Upon the entire record, including my observation of the demeanor of the witnesses, and after due consideration of briefs, I make the following: each of which annually receives goods worth more than $50,000 directly from points outside the state. II. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE A. Credibility The credibility problem posed by this record concerns precisely what Edward Shingary, a business representative for Local 38, said to Bruce Sokol, Cleveland Electro's works manager, in person on March 26 and on the telephone on March 27. There were three other persons present on March 26. Each was a business agent, like Shingary, of a union associated with the Cleveland Building Trades Council. The import of their testimony was to corroborate Shingary's version. Thus, the situation presented is four against one. The gap between the two versions is narrow but important. There is no dispute that Shingary and his colleagues visited Cleveland Electro's plant and talked to Sokol in his office on March 26 in the hope they could talk him into taking work away from Wiring Unlimited and giving it to a union contractor. There is no dispute that the possibility of an informational picket line was mentioned. There is no dispute that the fact Cleveland Electro's own employees are represented by United Steelworkers of America, AFL-CIO, was mentioned. Wallace Kaufman, a representative of the Painters union who was in the room the whole time, recalled a reference to the Steelworkers. George Christen, a representative of the Bricklayers union who was in the room only part of the time, recalled a reference to an informational picket line. (Homer Sanchez, a representative of the Cement Masons union who, like Christen, was in the room only part of the time, could recall nothing. I have disregarded his testimony.) Shingary acknowledged that he alluded to the Steelworkers at one point and, at another, mentioned the possibility of a picket line. All, of course, denied that Shingary made the statement attributed to him by Sokol, viz: He [Shingary ] said to me [Sokol] that he would have to play his game and probably set up a picket line at our plant and ask our union, the union that represents the people who work in the plant, to cooperate and not to cross the picket line. FINDINGS OF FACT 1. JURISDICTION Cleveland Electro Metals Company, a Pennsylvania corporation,- manufactures deoxidized products for the steel industry at its plant in Cleveland. It annually purchases scrap aluminum worth more than $50,000 from suppliers outside the State of Ohio which is shipped directly to its plant in Cleveland. Wiring Unlimited, an' Ohio corporation, is engaged in Cleveland in commercial and industrial electrical installa- tion and maintenance. It annually purchases goods worth more than $100,000 from suppliers in the State of Ohio He told me[-]or asked[-]that we had a United Steel Workers [union] representing our people in the plant and said that they had had good relations with United Steel Workers in the past. As his uncertainty over whether Shingary told him or asked him about the Steelworkers indicates, Sokol's testimony was not a model of clarity and precision. By the same token, I have taken into consideration the fact that Shingary has no authority to set up a picket line for Local 38 without the approval of the man over him, the fact that Local 38 carefully trains its operatives as to what they should say in dealings with employers, and the fact that the 1 Dates are 1975 unless otherwise indicated. 1076 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD conversation was an amicable one, all points urged in Local 38's brief as reasons why I should credit Shingary and discredit Sokol. (I'have not taken into consideration that "[i]t is common knowledge that all USW contracts have no-strike clauses and asking him to breach these contracts would be futile." There is no evidence in the record as to the terms of a contract, if any, in effect between Cleveland Electro and the Steelworkers.) Recog- nizing that the question` is a close one, I have, nonetheless, credited Sokol over Shingary and his associates. What tips the scale is Shingary's own testimony. On direct he testified the conversation began thus: A. How did you open the conversation in Mr. Sokol's office? A. Well, I believe we all introduced ourselves once more and presented our calling cards; if not at that time, when we were leaving. But we got our names straight, anyway, at that point. Q. Did you give your calling cards to Mr. Sokol? A. Yes. Q. Do you know whether or not the other two or three did? A. Normally, that's the routine procedure, to present your card; and I would say that it probably happened there, but I just don't remember. Q. Then what was said? A. Well, I asked Mr. Sokol whether he was aware of the fact that he had non-union building tradesmen working on his property, and he said that he was aware of it. And I asked him how he had gotten into that kind of a situation, having his employees belong to a union and then contracting out work through non-union people. [Emphasis supplied.] When the General Counsel tried to follow up this opening on cross-examination, Shingary's testimony went like this: Q. Did you say to him, "You, know you have a union"? A. I don't know, to tell you the truth, whether I said that or not. I was aware of it. Q. Do you recall Mr. Sokol saying, "Yes, we have the Steelworkers Union"? Do you recall him saying that? A. I asked him if he had a union, and he told me yes, he did. Q. Did you make any other statement referring to Cleveland Electro Metals employees? A. No. Q. After you made the statement, or Mr. Sokol responded to your question with "Yes, we have the Steelworkers" or "Sure, we have the Steelworkers," or words to that effect, is that when you mentioned the picket line? A. No. Q. I beg your pardon? A. No, I can't tie it together as part of the following sentence or something to that nature, no. Q. Would you tell me, then, when you did use that phrase with "informational pickets"? A. Well, I would say that we discussed the problem. He told me that he had a non-union contractor doing his work and stated that he was happy with the way the non-union contractor was performing. I said that we may have to use-an informational type picket. Q. You also told him that he knew he had a union? A. He said that he-knew,he had a union. Q. Did you make any statement that Mr. Sokol knew that he had a union? A. No. Q. You just testified that you did make that statement. MR. SMOOT: That is not correct. JUDGE BLACKBURN: Is that an objection? MR. SMOOT: Yes. JUDGE BLAcKBuRN: Sustained. Ask another ques- tion . You are arguing with the witness, Mr. Warr. Q. (By Mr. Warr) Do you recall making a statement about your relations with the Steelworkers? A. No. Q. Do you have relations with the Steelworkers? A. They are another union in town. Shingary successfully parried the General Counsel's efforts to get him to admit that he explicitly linked his references to a picket line with his references to the Steelworkers. Whether Shingary got his point across to Sokol with a direct statement , as Sokol 's testimony implies, is, however, beside the point. The question is whether the message Sokol got was the message Shingary sent. Shingary's admission on direct that he asked Sokol "how he had gotten into that kind of a situation" furnishes the answer. A union professional like Shingary would see a union employer who had entered into a contract with a nonunion employer as being in a "situation" fraught with peril for the employer and opportunity for a union which objected to that contract . In answering his own counsel, Shingary.gave a glimpse into the way his mind was working as he talked to Sokol on March 26. He saw Cleveland Electro's relationship with the ' Steelworkers as a lever which he might use to move the Company in the direction he wanted it to go. It follows, I think, that he used that lever explicitly enough for Sokol to get his message no matter how indirectly he may have made his point. B. Facts In 1974 Cleveland Electro initiated an air pollution control system in its plant . It entered into a contract with William Kirkpatrick Co. for the mechanical portion of the project and with Wiring Unlimited for the electrical. Both Kirkpatrick and Wiring Unlimited are nonunion contrac- tors. Cleveland Electro's own employees , some 40 in number , are represented by the Steelworkers . By March 26 Kirkpatrick . had virtually completed its work; Wiring Unlimited had just begun. The Cleveland Building Trades Council has two teams of business agents from its affiliated unions which have as their mission the encouragement of union building and construction projects . One team covers the west side of Cleveland, the other, the east. The west side team is chaired ELECTRICAL WORKERS , LOCAL 38 by Edward Shingary, one of Local 38's business represent- atives. The team's members meet regularly for breakfast each Wednesday. They then spend the balance of the day jointly visiting employers in their territory who have building projects in the works. They attempt to sell the employers on the wisdom of having union labor on their projects. Wednesday, March 26, was such a day. Six members of the west side team arrived at Cleveland Electra's plant in two automobiles sometime that after- noon. They asked to see whoever was in charge. Bruce Sokol, the works manager, went to the lunchroom and introduced himself. They asked for a chance to talk to him. He invited them to his office. Because the automobiles had to be moved, only two men, Shingary and Wallace Kaufman , a business agent for the Painters union, went with him initially. Two others, George Christen of the Bricklayers and Homer Sanchez of the Cement Masons, joined them a few minutes later. The other two business agents, representatives respectively of the Carpenters and Tile Setters unions, remained with the automobiles. In Sokol's office, Shingary acted as spokesman for his committee . He explained its purpose in being there. He inquired about the status of the work 'being done on Cleveland Electra's air pollution control system. Sokol explained that the mechanical phase was almost completed and that the electrical phase was just beginning. He indicated that the contract for painting had not yet been let. Shingary indicated that the mechanical work was water over the dam as far as the committee was concerned. He asked Sokol, however, whether he would consider giving the 'electrical work to a union contractor rather than to Wiring Unlimited. He pointed out that Cleveland Electro was already dealing with the Steelworkers, thus having union labor in its plant would be 'no novelty for it. Sokol said that the company had selected Wiring Unlimited on the basis of its low bid. Shingary said that, in view of economic conditions , union contractors were anxious for work and he was sure that the Company could find one to do the work at an acceptable price. He offered to furnish Sokol with a list of union contractors whom he' thought would meet the Company's needs, and to help Sokol in any way that he could to get a suitable contract. Kaufman asked Sokol to give consideration to union painting contractors when the time came for letting that contract and offered Sokol the same sort of list and the same sort of cooperation Shingary was offering in the electrical area. Sokol said that the Company was happy with Wiring Unlimited and doubted that it would change the arrange- ments it had already made. He pointed out, however, that the final word was not up to him but to his superiors at the home office in Pittsburgh. He offered to contact them, put the _ committee's suggestion up to them :and let Shingary know the answer. Shingary said he would telephone Sokol the next day. The meeting, which was amicable through- out, broke up on this note. Sokol had feared a different sort of confrontation when he first learned that a group of union agents had suddenly descended on his plant. 2 The charge and the complaint name only Local 38 as respondent. Therefore, while it is clear that Shingary was also acting as an agent for the Cleveland Building Trades Council and there is no evidence that he drew a distinction between his two hats when he spoke to Sokol , I have treated his 1077 Consequently, as he was shaking their hands in farewell, he thanked Shingary and his associates for their gentlemanly conduct. The above paragraph does not purport to be a sequential account of what was said in Sokol's office on March 26. It is, rather, a summary of what all the witnesses agreed was the tone and thrust of the discussion. Sometime during the exchange, Shingary said that he might have to put up an informational picket line at Cleveland Electra's plant if the Company did not give the electrical work to a union contractor. He stressed that this was something he had a legal right to do. He also said that he might ask the Steelworkers to cooperate by having Cleveland Electra's own'employees honor such a picket line. The next morning, Shingary reported to Richard Acton, business manager of Local 38 and Shingary's superior. They discussed Acton's authorizing an informational picket line if Sokol's answer should prove to be no. Acton reached no decision. In the meantime, Sokol checked with his home office and was told that Cleveland Electro would stick with Wiring Unlimited. Consequently, when Shingary telephoned on March 27, Sokol told him that the Company would not switch to a union electrical contractor. Sokol, who had put another man on his extension telephone unbeknownst to Shingary, then asked what Shingary was going to do. Shingary said again that he might put up an informational picket line. (I do not credit Sokol's testimony that Shingary's "might" of March 26 became "would" on March 27. I also do not credit Sokol's testimony that Shingary added "he would . . . ask our union people [i.e., Cleveland Electra's employees as distinguished from the Steelworkers, their union representative] to cooperate by not crossing the, picket line." Sokol's associate did not testify.) Acton and Shingary gave no further consideration to picketing Cleveland - Electra's plant.. There has been no picketing. C. Analysis and Conclusions As to Shingary's statement he 2 might put up an informational picket line, Local 38 argues that , it is not a threat to so advise a secondary employer . However, the numerous cases it cites in support of this proposition are not apposite . They turn on whether words spoken , without more, are sufficient to establish a secondary object. Here, there is no dispute that Shingary's object in saying what he did to Sokol was to get Cleveland Electro to cease doing business with Wiring Unlimited so that it could begin doing business with a union contractor. As to Shingary's statement he might ask the Steelworkers to cooperate, Local 38 argues that it is not a threat within the meaning of Section 8(b)(4)(ii). In support of that proposition it cites Electrical Workers Union Local 38, IBEW, AFL-CIO (Hoertz Electric Maintenance Co.), 138 NLRB 160 (1962). That case, too, is inapposite, for there the statement that one union would "seek'the cooperation" of another was held "clearly" to "contain no direct threat statements as implying that only Local 38 and not the council and/or its other affiliates was raising the possibility of putting a picket line at Cleveland Electro 's plant and asking the Steelworkers union for its cooperation 1078 DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD of a strike" in the context in which it was uttered. Here, the statement that Local 38 might seek the cooperation of the Steelworkers was uttered in connection with the reference to a possible informational picket line. Thus, whether Shingary's statements are considered together or separate- ly, or, for that matter, even if the picket line remark is weighed without taking the cooperation remark into consideration at all, the issue fairly posed by this record is whether the words which Shingary spoke to Sokol constitute a threat within the meaning of Section 8(b)(4)(ii). The test for whether a mention of the possibility of an informational picket line is, in and of itself, a threat within the meaning of the Act was stated by the Board in United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, AFL- CIO, Local No. 639 (American Modulars Corporation), 203 NLRB 1112 (1973). There, at footnote 1, it said: Like the Administrative Law Judge, we find that the statement of Respondents to American's area manager concerning the possibility of "informational" picketing at the Sherwood jobsite unless the latter's subcontrac- tor, Sondles , the primary employer herein, became unionized , constituted a threat within the meaning of Sec. 8(b)(4)(ii)(B). This statement , by its breadth, contemplated picketing of the entire jobsite and anyone working there , whether connected with the primary or neutral persons or employers. As such, it went beyond the mere giving notice of prospective picketing against a subcontractor to the general contractor. In American Modulars the threat was uttered in a context which included picketing , and the principal issue which the Board discussed was whether the signs which had been used met the Moore Dry Dock standards (Sailors' Union of the Pacific, AFL (Moore Dry Dock Company), 92 NLRB 547 (1950). American Modulars is also unlike this case in that the picketing took place at a jobsite where American was erecting single -family residences while here the common situs is a factory belonging to the secondary employer. The Board had previously dealt with the situation where no picketing followed the words claimed to be a threat within the meaning of Subsection (ii) in General Teamster, Warehouse and Dairy Employees Union Local Nor 126, et al. (Ready Mixed Concrete, Inc.), 200 NLRB 253 (1972). There, at footnote 2, the Board said: The Trial Examiner also found that Teamsters Business Representative Rickmeier 's threat to Tiede's superintendent to put up a picket line unless Tiede discontinued its purchases of concrete from RMC did not violate Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act because there was no evidence "that a picket line was ever established or that the inducement offered by Rickmei- er was effective .... " A threat to an employer to picket is itself coercive , whether or not the picketing is subsequently instituted , and if the threat is intended to achieve an object prohibited, by Section 8(b)(4)(B), as in this case , it is violative of Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B). We therefore find, contrary to the Trial- Examiner, that Rickmeier's threat to Tiede violated Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act. In RMC also the principal question before the Board was the legitimacy of the picketing which had taken place,' an issue not present here. More recently, in International Union of Operating Engineers Local No. 17,'17A and 17B, AFL-CIO (Firelands Sewer and Water Construction Co., Inc.), 210 NLRB No. 30 (1974), the Board had occasion to apply the rule it had set forth in American Modulars, supra, once again in the context of a'situation involving a traditional building and construction jobsite rather than , as here , a factory. It said: The record discloses and the Administrative Law Judge found that a meeting had been arranged with the Buffalo Sewer Authority for July 11, 1973, to discuss the Authority's award of a contract to Firelands Sewer and Water Construction Co., Inc., a nonunion contrac- tor with which Respondent had its primary dispute. The Authority informed the representatives of the various unions at the meeting that Firelands was the lowest responsible bidder. According to Respondent's business representative , Thomas McPartlan, whose testimony about the meeting was credited by the Administrative Law Judge , someone asked the union representatives what their local unions intended to do. McPartlan replied that if Firelands were awarded the contract, the Respondent would engage in information- al picketing. The Administrative Law Judge, citing United Broth- erhood of Carpenters andJoiners of America, AFL-CIO, Local No. 639 (American Modulars Corporation), 203 NLRB 1112 (1973), concluded that McPartlan' s state- ment constituted a threat within the meaning of Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act inasmuch as it was "by its terms unrestricted in scope and contemplated picketing the entire jobsite , including future phases and any employer working there ." We do,not agree. In American Modulars Corporation respondent union, when several neutral contractors were working at the jobsite, threatened to engage in "informational picket- ing of the Sherwood Acres jobsite ." The Board found, "This statement, by its breadth, contemplated picketing of the entire jobsite and anyone working there, whether connected with the primary or neutral persons or employers ." Unlike the situation in American Modulars Corporation, McPartlan's statement was not a, threat to picket neutral contractors who were or would in 'the future be working at the jobsite . To 'find that the statement was a general threat to picket neutrals is to disregard th e context in which the statement was made. Discussion at the meeting had centered ' on Firelands; no contracts other than the one to Firelands ' had been let; no other contractors or subcontractors were at the time involved in the contracted work or talked about at the meeting ; and McPartlan was responding to 'a question as to what Respondent would do.' In these circumstances, McPartlan's statement, although not specific, is reasonably construed as threatening to picket Firelands . A threat made to a contractor, to engage in informational picketing against a s,ubcontrac- ELECTRICAL' WORKERS , LOCAL 38 tor with which a union has a primary dispute is not a threat to engage in proscribed activity but rather is the mere giving of notice of prospective picketing against a subcontractor of the general contractor . Such is the case here. When this case is measured against the ' precedent of American Modulars and Fireland, the result must be a finding that the words Shingary spoke were a threat within the meaning of 8(b)(4)(ii). Here, Shingary said - without elaboration that he might put up an informational picket line if Cleveland Electro did not replace Wiring Unlimited with a union contractor . The statement was, in theater parlance, a throwaway line. While Shingary was undoubt- edly aware, as he testified , of the legal technicalities of an "informational" picket line as distinguished from one with a different purpose, he made no effort to explain the differences to Sokol or assure him that every effort would be made to direct it only at Wiring Unlimited , the primary employer, and not Cleveland Electro, the secondary.3 Most significantly, since Shingary did not explain to Sokol what exactly he had in mind when he used the phrase "informational picket line," he stated, in effect, that Local 38 would , if certain events came to pass, picket Cleveland Electro's entire plant. Unlike Fireland; Shmgary was not simply announcing , at the beginning of a large-scale building and construction project which was an entity in and of itself and on which the contract which Local 38 found offensive was only the first of many, that he planned to picket Wiring Unlimited only. Because it totally lacked specificity and because Cleveland Electro 's entire plant was, by implication , the target, Shingary's statement to 3 When Shtngary added that he might ask the Steelworkers to cooperate with his picket line, of course , he explicitly indicated that the picket line 1079 Sokol on March 26 and again in March 27 that he might resort to an informational picket line . falls within the rule of American Modulars that a statement is a threat if, by its breadth , it "contemplated picketing of the entire jobsite and anyone working there , whether connected with the primary or neutral persons or employers ." Since the threat had as its object forcing or requiring Cleveland Electro to cease doing business with Wiring Unlimited , I find that Local 38 thereby violated Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act. Upon the foregoing findings of fact, and upon the entire record in this case , I make the following: CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 1. Cleveland Electro Metals Company and Wiring Unlimited are employers engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act. 2. International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 38 , is a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2 (5) of the Act. 3. By threatening on March 26 and 27, 1975, to picket Cleveland Electro's plant and, on March 26, 1975, 'further to ask the representative of Cleveland Electro's employees to cooperate with an object of `forcing or , requiring Cleveland Electro to cease" doing business with Wiring Unlinuted , Local 38 has violated Section 8(b)(4)(ii)(B) of the Act. 4. The aforesaid unfair labor . practice is an unfair labor practice affecting commerce within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act. [Recommended Order omitted from publication.] would be informational in appearance only. As already indicated , however, I do not think this case turns on that distinction Copy with citationCopy as parenthetical citation